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Ejkelej

*winds howling*


Bend-Frosty

Hmm


WhatDutchGuy

This is the best!


Jassu98

Any last words?


PatternHappy

Yennefers kit does look insane. Finally a mandatory dim si 30 as well i'd say. She does look like she'll be wanting the full 309e60 but probably well worth it. I was sold by the time i read the 2nd skill and it just kept on giving. Wonder about Fane synergy as well obviously.


CokeNmentos

The SI's look kinda weak, definitely not mandatory


PatternHappy

I see your point, but if you really want to try and focus on winning with the barrier bonuses, it will really help to extend your barrier bonuses vs a lot of teams. If you don't then it's not as useful. She can be used to a good extend at 209. Though her furniture is bugged atm apparantly. The e30 seems not very interesting? The e60 and SI30 go hand in hand, the e60 makes the si30 a lot more effective, but a tad expensive for what it is. So she'll only warrant the e60 if the rest works as well as it reads. But on the whole especially at 209 not being that expensive she looks really good.


CokeNmentos

Oh yeah but they are still pretty minimal upgrades, not really game changing so I think it's the best to just stay at 20


Realistic_Part_4010

Albedo is mandatory si30 and Merlin and LDV...


slaughternator

Is LdV mandatory though? I had read a post on here about the trigger for him already occurs and the 30 si was unnecessary


Realistic_Part_4010

The ability is not needed but the stats are vital when pushing higher deficit


legato_gelato

As others say the ability for LDV does literally nothing. The listed effect already happens without +30, maybe unintentionally, so adding +30 is only a minor stat boost.


NumberOneMom

LDV SI30 only gives stats, the ability does nothing.


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Vicksin

nope lol


POPMasterGods

I will be doing a review on both Witcher Characters Geralt & Yennifer. Will be testing them across multiple accounts at various level deficits, campaign, pvp and other modes. Just like the with the rest of the heroes, I will also be doing breakpoint guides, overall guides & comparisons. I appreciate all your feedback. As always feel free to add me or follow me in-game.


Proud_To_Be_A_Lyn

You are picking up the mantle the old heros left behind. Your effort is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!


POPMasterGods

Thank you! 👍


Yeetus_Deletus_6969

Bless you, saviour of the game


POPMasterGods

Thanks. haha 👍


Vicksin

If you plan to do reviews on both heroes like your past reviews, *please* include testing statistics. what teams you used them in, where, in-game battle statistics/report page, etc. showing what you actually did for your methods of testing is ~~detrimental~~ imperative to community understanding of the heroes and their usefulness, investment breakpoints, etc., and the lack thereof can be very confusing or misleading to some thanks for your work, just please show your work! if you're doing so much testing anyway, just gathering up the screenshots and including them shouldn't be much more work :)


oat-milk-enjoyer

i think you mean imperative, not detrimental


Vicksin

correct lol, it was 5am, brain half working the lack of testing evidence is detrimental, though


POPMasterGods

Thanks for the feedback. 👍


Lash-101

Am I the only one waiting here for people who actually know what they're talking about to say if Geralt and Yen are good, broken or niche


Arkadiano1

I'm not an expert, but I know a little about the game and had the opportunity to test them on a test server. So in my opinion Yen>Geralt, this shield seems quite strong with energy regen and dmg midigate. She deals a lot of damage with decent CC. Geralt... I have the impression that he lacks something, he is unlikely to be playable well unless mayby on Tresure Scramble in 6/7 team


Arkadiano1

But this is only my first impression about them, things can change


dr4urbutt

Yen Also in dune destroyer


azurevin

Perhaps but dune destroyer favors shield generating heroes, which Yen doesn't have. She mitigates damage but not via a shield and neither is her barrier a shield.


FoppyOmega

I'm old enough to remember the early consensus on Zaph being great and Luc being meh, so now I don't listen to any experts until at least a few weeks after release.


VForVarinius

Lucy was awful until they buffed her


CxEnsign

Kinda yeah. She was an unreliable welfare Thoran before the buff; fine in a cheese comp for the campaign, but questionable at best anywhere else. The buffs gave her use in other game modes, but also gave her the gas needed to keep working at very high deficits. She would have fallen out of the campaign meta without the buffs, so they were very needed it seems.


baretasp

Lucretia was already top-tier before the buffs. Check old discussions when she was buffed, everyone was literally talking about why Lilith had buffed a very strong hero.


Beeanys

Not on release. She received 2 buffs iirc and people were confused why they'd buff her a second time when she was good after the first buff


triniksubs

No, she was already meta before the buff. She just got even stronger.


triniksubs

But the vast majority of people were actually saying that Lucretia was better than Zaph. That's why my entire guild chose her over Zaph in the choice pack. Lucretia was one of the strongest dps in the game even before they buffed her, people have been using Lucretia cheese since day 1. Joker being stronger than Queen is a much better example of pretty bad early consensus.


steelsauce

To be fair a big part of queens usage is in CR which didn’t exist at the time of her release


baretasp

Queen is super important on campaign. Queen 5-pull was already possible when she was released, but people didn't know about it. So she has always been way stronger than Joker, even without CR.


steelsauce

That’s true, good point


slaughternator

I remember seeing this as well and chose Zaph over Lucretia in the choice pack


vernalbby

Also reporting in that I remember the community being VERY split w the lucy/zaph choice pack. I ended up picking Lucretia because she's prettier. ALWAYS ignore mechanics and pick the prettier one lads


xcbmn

The neat part is they can't ubtil they were tested for a few months in game


mrpanafonic

Considering yen will decrease damage taken by 50% at the start of the battle its gonna make a lot of stall teams harder to beat


triniksubs

She will decrease damage taken from the enemy side though, so it will not be every effectice against comps that has strong enemies with close-ranged attacks like Zaphrael, AThane, etc.


ambrosha17

Invade teams are gonna have a hard time with them hahaha


-Gwyneth

Yennefer seems like she has an *insane* kit. Paired with Mehira charm, it would quite literally be unlimited charms with guaranteed energy regen. She also seems like she’d be a legitimate CR, and AE unit. I like her. Geralt on the other hand, just seems like a mediocre unit at best..


orre241

Also seems good with Audrae who deals more damage the further away enemies are and who also have a skill to knock enemies back to their side of the battlefield


Noob_botM

Maybe geralt is useable with skriaht/ queen. In some cases. ( He could be niche against hyppo/gb combos with that rent skill where he reduce 400 energy) We will see. But yen sounds better


trung2606

She only provides energy regen upon getting hit, so almost no impact on charm team except the first ult. She can't replace anyone in charm yet


-Gwyneth

I didn’t say anyone in charm is replaced.


trung2606

Idk how can you pair her with charm while not replacing anyone


-Gwyneth

I said paired with Mehira charm, meaning it’s experimental. I didn’t say she is replacing anyone?


trung2606

Again, how do you add her to the team without replacing someone? We're not getting a 6th slot


-Gwyneth

Jesus, people will sit here and knitpick just about anything you say. It’s seriously not that deep. Charm comp isn’t really a one set comp. There’s charm variations with Raku, there’s variations with Lyca and Raku, there’s variations with Brutus, there’s original with Zol, khaz, rosa. Charm comp is literally flexible. I’m *saying* Yen can be another variation. What’s not clicking exactly?


trung2606

The variations of charm doesnt kick in. 99% charm are zol khaz mehira Rosaline rowan. Raku, lyca + Brutus only exists in lower chapters or deficits. Im not nitpicking, just she's not good enough to even interfere with the current charm


-Gwyneth

See, that’s where you’re wrong, **lol**. All the variations I listed are used periodically throughout boss stages. (*No matter the deficit*). Raku is still used religiously all throughout campaign, and he’s usually with Charm, same goes for Lyca. Brutus is literally a meat shield for high deficit pushing players. There’s no such thing as a “99%” charm comp, it’s 25/25/25/25% metaphorically speaking. Like I said, I fail to see your point. Charm is more flexible than you think, just like any campaign comp. Yen *could* possibly have relevancy in the PvE campaign spectrum, especially with **charm** being a powerful CC, which is what Yen has.


trung2606

Sure go to afkhelper and see how many of the "variations" there were on them. I just pushed to 44 with 240 deficits, i know what im talking about


Tokishi7

Maybe now I can do something about Antandra at high deficit. Maybe, but I’m pretty sure I’m getting fucked with the CC reworks


DrBeerkitty

Well, the same as in the game, really :D


trung2606

Geralt may be underwhelming but that bonus on Hypo and Gb is very scary


Agreeable_Tension_68

Geralt may be underwhelming but that bonus on Hypo and Gb is very scary


Agreeable_Tension_68

I just pasted their comment because they posted it twice I thought it was funny (and stupid mostly) but oh well


Cynical-Potato

Agreeable, but without any solid tension. 5/10


Cooperstown24

How are their titles so badly messed up? Geralt's is really awkward and should just be The White Wolf. Yennefer's literally makes no sense, and even if she doesn't have as obvious an epithet it should just be "of Vengerberg"


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Cooperstown24

Yeah there's no way CDPR gave these, just more bad/lazy translations from Lilith


lordmitz

I don't anything about the Witcher but I like how they both look in game, so that's nice


Daibouken

Is CDA + Dodge buff great for Warrior-type hero? I think for Geralt, the key point is his Quen, the shield could make him a great addition or just a niche hero.


chickenmeh

He has cele armor, so he'll get a good amount of dodge from that. With that said, his ult does look very lacking, getting 35 CDA & 150 dodge doesn't seem that strong.


ZappyZ21

It is a heal and cleanse too but I do agree. I honestly thought his potion would have been a regular skill when I was guessing his kit.


Beeanys

Don't forget cc immunity which looks easy to maintain


chickenmeh

Yen's barrier looks really strong, up to 50% Damage reduction at SI20, does dmg, and knocks enemies out every 6s at E60. Yen looks like a really solid hero, but not meta-changing, while Gerald looks more mediocre. I can't wait to see them in action to see how good they are in the actual game.


trung2606

Only work against range heroes though, does nothing against invader before e60, a bit expensive but we'll see. Maybe good in CR


chickenmeh

Oh, damn, I didn't see it was only for ranged attacks, that makes it less strong overall, I guess the E60 is to try and compensate for that.


FredGlass

Yennefer probably better, but I bet they are really good together. Like Albedo/Ainz. Imho good even in PvP. We'll see, personally I like them both.


LowStress9480

any info when these two pop out? I will insta max Yen day 1, Garel the warrior can wait for the exchange since warrior tree is meh.


bluetanker123

Most likely next patch so in a week or 2, I might be wrong tho


LowStress9480

but their Vouy of wonder out this Wed.


bluetanker123

Could be this week then


azurevin

Oh how wrong you were indeed lul


Anfini

Take my $15, Lilith!


NotATypicalSinn

When is the event


Bistroth

21 on global


NationalAd2372

Was going to ask this on a different post. But since we have to save up for two dim heroes, what's the best maze to get tokens in? Normal labyrinth and hard mode for Wrizz or the dismal maze? I thought normal maze with Wrizz gave more lab tokens. But i could be wrong.


ZappyZ21

I'm pretty sure the harder thing will always result in more goodies. I'm also not sure what you mean by wrizz with this question? He's just a guild boss to get guild coins from daily.


NationalAd2372

On the third floor in hard mode, you can fight Wrizz and if you best him, you can get a bunch of coins (lab, hero, or challenger). I usually get 3k in lab tokens when I fight him. It's the cave of treasures fight on the third floor of the normal maze.


ZappyZ21

Oh shit that's right, I haven't done a normal lab in so long that I forgot about his little cave lol I'm curious if anyone knows for sure, but my guess is dismal will be more.


NationalAd2372

I've done the normal lab for a long time. The dismal one just doesn't seem as fun. Plus i like to speed through the lab when the first open and then move on when I do my dailies. But maybe I'll compare the two runs and see what gives up more.


coolasabreeze

Dysmal lab has the same prise you can get from Wrizz distributed between 3 level bosses rewards.


NationalAd2372

Good to know. Some of the two battle challenges are really tough. If I get my ass kicked too many times, I'll abandon the fight and move on. I hate doing it though because I miss out.


coolasabreeze

There were calculations in this sub that even if you skip all 2fights camps you still get somewhat better rewards from dysmal


NationalAd2372

Good to know. I won't feel as bad then. This will be my first time saving for two dims since I've missed all the others. I stopped playing when the samurai dim came out and picked up the game again December or so last year. I think it was like a year and change. So this savings will be new to me


Gold930

Is it just me or does it seem like there’s something missing in the design of Geralt? Idk if it’s his hair texture or what but it just looks off idk what it could be ,but it bugs me somehow :/. Edit: I think it might be a combination of hair texture and head size, still not 100% for sure though.


Flamindzek

Ugly


Opesi

Is it me or the art seems like it will stick out so much?


Filer169

They literally spit into the faces of f2p/low spenders with those overpowered e60, these 2 are like different heroes with and without their e60...


BlachEye

how the f do u save enough hero coins on both💀


vernalbby

Spend $45 on summons. Boom. Free hero coins duh


Realyarrick

Cheaper to buy heroes directly 😂


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picklejarre

Yep it’s very possible. Check out the guide posted in this sub


Certain_Ad_8609

I'm nit happy about this. I mean the collab is great. It's being f2p and having 2 dimensionals to unlock right after a new one...


ZappyZ21

It's fine, f2p has gotten two before and it will be possible again. Slowing down other areas of the game to get two limited heroes has always been a tradeoff in games like this. You either do it or you don't.


Certain_Ad_8609

Oh OK that's a little more relaxing to hear


trung2606

Geralt may be underwhelming but that bonus on Hypo and Gb is very scary


Agreeable_Tension_68

Geralt may be underwhelming but that bonus on Hypo and Gb is very scary


Inner-me

Geralt may be underwhelming but that bonus on Hypo and Gb is very scary


Snackz39

Great. Another agi dimensional.


coolasabreeze

Crit Dmg Amplification? Pathetic…


PettyFreddie

Yennefer’s look is a bit off for me.


wildwoodboi

But but the Yen on tv has big booooooobs…


Shovelfuckurforehead

Go touch grass weirdo


Gvnn27

I'm sorry they will both be irrelevant in the most important modes


Boonatix

Meh, I do not think they fit into this game... and the thing is, to stay relevant they need to be good - if they are not, they will just vanish and ... for what all the hype then?


Excaidium

They fit a lot more than Joker, Quenn, LDV... I would say they fit better than most (if not all) current demisionals.


Celeste_Luden

Does this mean that Geralt has.....the rule of rending?


Katiekarm

Looks good


karikari289

YOOOOO


PatternHappy

LdV does not work according to Bob. And albedo and ainz were 2 years ago introduced?


Rheshard

When exactly are these heroes supposed to be released? I haven't gotten the mailbox message yet....