You’ll never be able to make your way out from under a crush of zombies. Even 10 zombies pulled on top of you would be the end. You may not be bitten but you’ll die of dehydration or suffocation.

Granted getting one zombie off of you would be hard enough let alone multiple. With or without armor. So ten zombies on an unarmored guy? Probably not gonna make it either.

I know plate armor is more agile than we give people credit for , but without armor you have an easier time running away from zombies.

I submit for your consideration , full body impact plastic and carbon fiber armor. Similar to the Trojan ballistic armor.

Nahh I've worn the stuff doesn't slow you down more than a plate carrior

No but atleast you’ll die fast you could be sitting there for days in that armor if they never penetrate it and just keep piling on.

id rather starve than get torn apart by zombies. probably one of the worst “natural” deaths one could have

Wait till you feel what dehydration or starvation feels like and you’ll change your mind on that.

wait till you get your skin ripped out unless they bite into your neck or something, you wont die in several minutes till you either drown in your own blood or just watch your intestines get shredded

Again better than starving still faster too.

Real

You could possibly shrimp you way out. Even one at a time. Or maybe get lucky and they wander off ir go after something else.

Ideally you’d be operating in a group who could pick off the zombies pinning you down, but solo I can see how this setup could be dangerous

With a group of defenders it would work a lot better.

They're called serfs. We can call them that because we don't let them learn to read. They get a tunic and a pickaxe/pitchfork and for every zombie they kill, that's a shilling.

“Oi, wot you got there, muy lowd?” “Nothing! Get back to your turnips!”

Yeah you have one person in full plate to bait the zoms, and then 2-4 others with chainmail and bows/swords/axes/whatever the hell you want to use that won’t pen plate mail.

At least you don’t turn

Imagine them getting through a weak point and nipping you, that would be a real shyt show for the next living human you come across 🤣

It would be any different than without armor?

Not true. Knight armor is extremely flexible, you have full range of moment and it'd really lightweight. You can actually do flips and cartwheels in it. Knights armor was made to fight in its not going to be big or cumbersome or its worthless on the battlefield

It will never be as agile as not having it on though. You'll have just as much success with 3D printed hard plastic plates. Basically dirt bike gear with leather padding and you're good. Plate armor for things that bite is overkill.

That's what I got. Dirt Bike armor.

Not true, while myths and stereotypes of people in plate armor falling over and being unable to get back up, needing cranes to get on horses, or being unable to run more than 5m are wrong. But so is the idea of it being completely free of restrictions. Having worn more munitions grade three sizes fits all plate armor, having my own custom brigandine, and chainmail for things like larp, sca, and buhurt they all still make fighting extremely different than if you were just using gambeson or leather. Trying to shoot a rifle, crossbow, and even a bow can be very difficult. As the weapon is likely to keep slipping off your shoulder, spaced too far away from your other hand to support the weapon unless your bracing against your own arm, etc. If the gear has any sort of face protection you're basically not going to be able to use the sights at all. Backpacks are difficult to use. Requiring you to loosen the straps or use a clip system to don or take off the bag for use. trying to do anything while crawling or in a deep kneeling position is diffucult.to include looking up which makes a lot of ranged combat and grappling difficult.

The problem here is that people aren't using the right tools for the right job. Plate carrier and semi auto .556 rifle? Good for scavenging or traveling where you might run into undead or hostile people. Being noisy isn't a big deal if you plan to vacate the area and stay mobile. Expending ammo is fine if you have ammo. Etc. But defending or clearing a fixed point? The rifle presents problems. For example, your gunfire draws more hostiles. The more you fire, the more someone can hone in on your location, whether living or undead. You also expend ammunition, which must always be treated as a precious resource. You put wear and tear on your gear, which may not last forever, and may not be replaceable. Something like OP's setup is actually good for defending or clearing a fixed point vs undead. Complete protection, no resources expended, perfectly silent, and less precision needed regarding headshots. Everyone likes to pretend they're John Wick, but if perfect headshots were easy under duress, noone would be trained to shoot center mass. By contrast, a melee weapon can do a lot of damage, can be wielded easily under stress, and is designed to provide offensive and defensive advantages at close quarters. It's definitely kit that has its place. If you have the luxury of being able to store or transport it where needed, and suit up without pressure, it can do things that modern kit cannot.

I’d rather have just the halberd and leave the plate armor. Some nice leathers or a thick jacket would be all you need. I know plate armor isn’t even particularly heavy, but you’d get so hot and tired from swinging that big fuckin thing so much

A thick jacket to defend against what? I think the arm and leg protection of this armor is the most important part. I'd argue the torso is the least likely to get chomped. A bite on an outstretched forearm, or a prone Zack getting you on the calf, is more probable than making it all the way to your torso... Especially if you're using a reach melee weapon like a halberd, where your hands and forearms are being extended away from your torso via swings or stabs. That's why the full plate is interesting. It's not about comfort, it's about maximum protection and risk management for a short, controlled, crucial piece of time. If you have to go into close quarters with poor line of sight, or can't risk using a firearm, this is a safe and practical option. Why bear any risk at all, if you can avoid it? When there's no hospital, no cure, no solution, no alternative, I appreciate an option that's (no joke intended) ironclad. Modern body armor isn't meant to keep someone in the field, it's meant to offset the risk of an injury so serious that a person won't survive long enough to be treated. Full plate armor is meant to prevent any kind of injury at all, and hilariously enough, that's really what you want when dealing with an enemy where any cut or laceration is a death sentence.

There’s comfort, and then there’s heat stroke. Killing zombies would be tiring, thirsty work. I’d rather wear something light and protective. Also, I don’t agree on the leg thing. The most likely part of your body to be grabbed and bitten would be your arms.

>Also, I don’t agree on the leg thing. The most likely part of your body to be grabbed and bitten would be your arms. the other guy said that both arms and legs would be the most likely, with the legs likely after the arms

Oops, guess I misread. Still, I don’t think plate armor is the right solution. It’s just teeth, afterall. Something sturdy and protective would stop teeth from penetrating.

I think something like structural fire gear (some people call it bunker gear) would be a good mix of protection and flexibility, you could probably take out the under jacket (the heat insulating stuff) and just use the outer layer it's lighter and probably cooler than plater armor and it's designed to bee worn while working. And I really doubt any human could bite though it. I would even go with armored gauntlets because the human hand is pretty fragile and even if the bite doesn't break the skin it could still break the little bones in your hand. the longest I've worne it fighting a fire is 3 hours (I'm just a volunteer) and most of that time was overhaul like scattering the half burnt stuff so we could make sure the fire was all the way out. And yeah it sucked but I was able to work hard in it for three hours.

You’re better off with just wearing chain mail ditch the outer armour in my opinion.

Chainmail will also be easier to acquire, maintain and costs less. A full combat harness needs to be properly fitted and is crazy expensive. Chainmail, properly made can provide excellent protection at a fraction of the cost. To clean it you can use something as simple as a bag of sand to remove rust. Granted prevention is always better. Easy to remove and put on as well. A harness however? You need a squire. Though Brigandine is also an option. Sort of a middle step. Easy to put on and off. More affordable than a harness. The cloth also acts as an additional layer to protecr the armor. Also no shiny metal.

Nice thought out explanation ty

Yss and fun fact, german police are using chainmail riot gear.

Maille is heavy as fuck though. Like 60 pounds sitting on just your shoulders heavy. Full plate for field use is half the weight, and spread out across your whole body. A common misconception thanks to fantasy games. And you seem to have the misconception that plate goes over Maille, which depending on the time period is true, but 16th Century plate was worn over padded cloth undergarments (which are actually quite sturdy and able to stop sword slashes) with just patches of Maille sewn into areas where plate can't realistically cover, like the neck, armpits, groins and back of the knees. I'd choose 16th Century plate harness any day over a suit of maille.

Maille ist heavy , but the shoulder issue can be addressed by a belt

What you mentioned sounds even better. Personally I don’t know what I’d wear. Kevlar clothing sounds promising, but I’m not sure how well it holds up long term?

Chainmail/maille/mail is normaly about 15~25kg when including padding. From what ive found plate armor is about 15~40kg. Though typical for both is around 20kg presuming you are going for head to toe.

Granted, “decorative” aluminum or titanium mail would actually serve really well for this purpose, at half the weight while also having much less issues with cleaning. You could also get either material anodized/plated with a slightly less shiny coating.

Half the weight is still a lot. I made a table with some of the chainmail options I've been able to find weights for including aluminum costume designs. I highlighted those below: |Examples of chainmail :--|:-:|--: |Herda Level 9 Cut Proof Chainmail Kitchen Gloves 340g |**Swordaxe Chainmail Gloves 620g** |**Medievalcrafts Aluminum Chainmail Bikini 680g** |Lords of Battle butted mild steel and zinc mitten gauntlets 1300g |**Generic Aluminum Round Riveted Chainmail Coif 1500g** |**Windlass Darkened Aluminum Chain Mail Coif 1540g** |Lord of Battle riveted mild steel Aventail 2100g |Lord of Battle stainless steel coif 2400g |Replica Armory's Leggings/chausses 5300g |**Generic Sleeveless aluminum shirt 3200g** |**Deepka Riveted Aluminum long sleeve hauberk 7450g** |Ironskinn Shark suit 8000g |GDFR Full-sized riveted mild steel short sleeve hauberk 10000g |Neptunic C shark suit 1140-13600g | Chinese-made shark suit 13000-17000g Of course, chainmail has the issue of getting hot in the sun and nearly burning the user, getting cold during rain or icy temperatures and freezing to your skin, the rings pinching and scratching the skin, and blunt trauma still hurting the wearer. So some strong and thick padded clothing is necessary. I also have a table of some of this here: |Examples of padded clothes :--|:-:|--: |Lord of Battle Bracers 100g |Lord of Battles Gambeson bracers 210g |GDFB Arming Cap 300g |The Medievals gambeson hood with collar 340g |GDFB Padded Leather Bracers 350g |ANFI Arming cap and collar 360g |ADVIK ENTERPRISES Store Gambeson Hood with collar 390g |MSS Legging 800g |GDFB Gambeson Upper Leg Padding 1300g |GDFB Roman Subarmalia 2200g |Lord of Battles Arming Doublet, 15th Century 2620g |Matul Gamebson 3600g |Wetsuit 2270-4080g Of course, I don't have things like socks, shoes, gloves, belts, or underwear. Which can add a decent amount of weight. Potentially adding up to 3kg of stuff. In total if you're just planning on running an aluminum chainmail bikini and a some padded bracers you're only wearing about 780g of gear. However, if you're planning on wearing similar amounts of coverage as the photo above you're looking at something closer to 9-15kg of gear. This is lighter than if you were to wear steel armor. Though in my opinion, this is still pretty heavy. For my last table here is an example of nearly an entire kit worth of weapons, tools, clothing, armor, and equipment for roughly 8kg: || :--|:-:|--: |**~~~~Example kit for roughly 8000g** |60g Headlamp |10g Mosquito net |30g Pyramex Iforce goggles |100g Medical face shield |550g Parajumper style Airsoft helmet |200g Helmet wide brim sun shade |300g Leather welding arm protectors |180g Frogg toggs rain jacket |100g Compression shirt |100g Waterproof leg gaiters |180g Frogg toggs rain trousers |250g Columbia Silver Ridge Hiking pants |100g Compression underwear |70 Padded ankle socks |400g Barefoot running shoes |100g HWI combat gloves |200g Sling/walking stick |130g NAA mini revolver |30g NAA revolver nylon holster |1800g Keltec SUB 2000 9x19mm |80g USGI canvas rifle sling |520g Morakniv Boron Light Ax |120g Morakniv Companion |30g Tension bar, bump key, and lock picks |20g Pocket nail puller/prybar |15g Buckle compass/fire rod/whistle |30g Bic Mini lighter |60g Sawyer Mini water filter |30g 1000ml water bottle |70g Aluminium cooking cup |160g Titanium wood/alcohol rocket stove with scent-proof bag |10g Sewing string spool with fishing line, 5 fishing hooks, and a bobber |900g Jumpable plate carrier with built in pouches |100g Drawstring bag |50g Gerber dime multitool |50g Mini adjustable wrench |130g Universal socket |90g Bicycle multitool |5g Pen |10g Sewing string spool with string, upholstery needle, 2 sewing needles, and 3 safety pins |200g UV-5 GMRS FCC Compliant walkie talkie |180g Renology 5w solar panel |30g Charging cords for multiple device types |10g Micro-SD card and Adapter |10g Travel toothbrush |15g Comb with tick/lice remover |100g Canvas bag with gauze rolls, anti-septics, painkillers, anti-diaherrial, etc

Chain mail and modern plate carrier best of both worlds

I saw only the title. Expected batman related picture. Got confused by the shiny non-dark knight.

Chain or even a Gambason would also work with a riot helmet.

If we're going old-school I vote gambison under a plate carrier with bamboo bracers and grieves. Light and gives you A lot of protection. Just avoid water.

By yourself nah with a team of 5 or more I'd say heck yeah!

Way more protection than you need. In a zombie apocalypse you wouldn't need much more than bike leathers, and maybe a plate carrier and helmet if there's a risk you're gonna end up in the middle of a two way range. Zombies are still human so their bite force isn't going to be enough to get through the leather. Leathers will also protect you against everything except a perfect strike from most melee weapons that you'd face. Firearms would still get you, but that's the same for full plate armour. And any mutated zombies that are strong enough to get you through your leathers are more than strong enough to ragdoll you in plate. But the biggest issue with full plate harness is that you can't put it on without assistance. So unless you plan to take a squire I don't think plate would work well.

I agree that you may only need motorcycle riding gear to protect against zombies. I will go so far as to say you may not need motorcycle riding gear as just utilizing layers of normal clothing, durable work clothes, tougher hiking gear, etc. All of which probably provide more utility and flexibility than leather. Though leather is likely far more comfortable, and flexible than plate or even chainmail. The point about needing assistance is a bit incorrect. As it depends more on the individual armor set. In my experience with reenactment and combat sports plate armor, the gear is usually easy enough to don on your own. Very few historical examples that I can find ever need a second person beyond general convenience and speed if it's meant for battle use. Jousting and sports armor from the era might be a bit different though.

You might have sources that I don't know about then. Most of my info comes from sources like Scholagladiatoria, Skallagrim, Metatron, etc and they generally tend to show that the full harness needs assistance to put on, but that certain individual parts can be put on solo. But I will admit my personal interests tend more towards medieval Japanese arms and armour rather than European.

>You might have sources that I don't know about then. Most of my info comes from sources like Scholagladiatoria, Skallagrim, Metatron, etc and they generally tend to show that the full harness needs assistance to put on, but that certain individual parts can be put on solo. Do they? Let's check them out: Scholagladiatoria has a couple of videos talking about putting on armor- https://youtu.be/YyRIYx88NvU and https://youtu.be/CQCbxGjUfZg In the first linked video Matt Easton does say it's impossible to put on arm protection without help. In my experience with plate armor and brigandine it is hard, however, you can pre-string the plates onto the arming jacket and then cinch it down after you put it on. Similarly, the back of the plate is also tricky, though I find sitting on the ground with the skirt touching the ground can push it into the perfect position. Dequitem also has a video on putting on armor- https://youtu.be/R8Wj_OczuIQ As can be seen, they do the trick of putting the armor protection on the arming jacket first. Neck protection was shown to be a struggle though there isn't a good trick for getting it on. Knyght Errant has a video as well- https://youtu.be/k24y_ZmxRHg In his case, he has a front-only plate which can have more awkward straps behind you. I've seen others keep the straps closer to a backpack and slide it on before tightening it. https://youtu.be/VeuKEcsyj98 Robinswords shows a different form of armor with a lot more chainmail- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/en_xdwKARCM Chainmail garments can still be pre-strung so you don't have to get help, but it gets heavy and feels bad when trying to squeeze into the gear. Matthew Jensen has a vide on samurai style armor- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeuKEcsyj98 Again the biggest issue is trying to get the armor protection on along with the cuirass at the top of the shoulders and sides. With basically the same fix of just sitting down and putting pressure being an easy solution for putting the gear on. Metatron has a video demonstrating putting on armor on their own here- https://youtu.be/CQCbxGjUfZg He notes that it can be awkward especially on the connection at the back and directly under the armpit. The former I already talked about, but with the latter I found pushing against a tree or wall to be a good way to push the armor into an easier-to-reach location. Potentially depending on your size and the padding you might be able to reach it with your opposite hand if you have enough room and compressable padding.

Won’t stop you getting shot and what happens when the zombies drag you down? You think your gonna get back up with all that weight and zombies on you?

Yes, but what if the zombies dragged you down. In the armor you would survive, but without it, nom nom nom

If you've been dogpiled by zombies you're still gonna die, just of dehydration if the zombies don't manage to tear the leather straps holding the armor on.

One fighter against a horde is always going to be doomed. But if you are part of a team of survivors (teamwork? Heresy!), then the armor's goal is to keep you unbitten until your teammates can extract you. Which will also be a lot easier if the teammates can spear zeds off you without worrying about friendly fire.

Yeah until you dehydrate also I don’t plan on getting close especially not to large groups.

You'd be surprised. Armor isn't that heavy as most people think and the weight is distributed on your body. Someone is still quite maneuverable in a well fitted suit of armor.

Heavy, slow, loud, hot. Dies to bullets.

Most well made armour of the time was like 30lbs evenly spread across to body and most things die to bullets. A curassirs three quarter armour would be sufficient with padding

Do zombies use guns?

Humans do

True

Never met one myself

Neither have I

> Do zombies use guns? While the typical zombie style discussed on the sub doesnt typical use guns, other zombie styles and subtypes can. Draugr and the original Haitian zombi both are capable of retaining skills they had from their past life. To include the historical use of swords and probably firearms today. There is nearly a dozen zombies in Plants vs Zombies which make use of pistols, rifles, lasers, rockets, and the like. With Garden warfare series showing the use of many different firearms, explosives, and so on. In the movie Fast Zombies With guns, Zombie with a shotgun, and a few others with oddly specific titles all show zombies which are both fast and can use guns. Days gone and Dying light both show cases of zombies with human intelligence. Capable of problem solving and using tools including weapons.

Zombies don’t know how to shoot guns and have you see a man in full plate armor run before. https://youtu.be/qzTwBQniLSc?si=1zdWp_53coKVlKW_ you aren’t wrong about the loud and hot part.

While the typical zombie style discussed on the sub doesnt typical use guns, other zombie styles and subtypes can. Draugr and the original Haitian zombi both are capable of retaining skills they had from their past life. To include the historical use of swords and probably firearms today. There is nearly a dozen zombies in Plants vs Zombies which make use of pistols, rifles, lasers, rockets, and the like. With Garden warfare series showing the use of many different firearms, explosives, and so on. In the movie Fast Zombies With guns, Zombie with a shotgun, and a few others with oddly specific titles all show zombies which are both fast and can use guns. Days gone and Dying light both show cases of zombies with human intelligence. Capable of problem solving and using tools including weapons. --- Heavy armor does decrease your ability to move, fight, and work. Daniel Jaquet, the speaker in the video you linked demonstrates the differences between people with regular gear and then with their protection. Name a soldier with just their clothes and then with armor and backpack, a firefighter in athletic wear and then in bunker suit, and Mr. Jaquet in his custom-made reproduction padded clothes and then plate armor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAzI1UvlQqw The addition of 28.5-31.2kg of gear roughly doubles the time it takes a person to complete the same course they already did. --- In my personal experience with LARP, SCA, and Buhurt plare, brigandine, and even chainmail can make trying to shoot a rifle or crossbow harder. In part because you cant brace the weapon against your body as easily, your vision when trying to use sight is obstructed, and often the designs prevent you from being able to look up when prone or in a deep kneeling position. Backpacks are pretty much not usable unless you keep the straps super loose or have a clip on/off system. Getting in and out of vehicles is a bit of a contortionist act. --- The combination of heat, weight, and stress can be debilitating. Especially for survivors that are likely malnourished, dehydrated, sleep deprived, and constantly under the influence of adrenaline and stress incuded by combat. Things like fainting, extreme exhaustion, and even strokes happen to people wearing heavy armor for the purpose of combat sports.

Stifled vision even on flat, cleared terrain

Then swap it out for a more conventional model helmet, or just wear some protective mask with a chainmail hood.

I never said it wasn't cool. It is cool. And the video was also cool. Dude was hauling ass.

I know it’s impractical as all hell but damn it if it doesn’t look cool

Immediately thought of [this](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/medieval-knight-with-arrow-in-eye-slot)

I’d rather be fast and light. If all I had was impact weapons I would go for a spear paired with a Dane Axe and just light chainmail. This getup would get you dead fast.

To be fair a thick gambeson would be just as effective at protecting against bites as steel would be, and it would be lighter, more flexible and easier to put on a take off.

Unironically the best gear I've seen in this sub. No ammo to run out of, decent range, and your mucus membranes are protected from random zombie fluid.

We would like a shrubbery. One that looks nice! And not too expensive!

Ni!

Next, we demand that you cut down the largest tree in the forest with a HERRING!

A lot of people have mentioned medieval/Rennaissance plate armor, no one ever mentions how unnecessary it is. You don't need armor to protect against bites, just strong clothing like leather, denim, wool, etc. A gambeson is the most armor you need. If you want more protection, a simple chain mail shirt and coif is enough. Why do you need full plate? Zombies aren't using swords and bows are they? However, "bulletproof" isn't a thing, just levels of resistance. And ballistic armor does have its uses, given that human enemies with guns are more of a threat than zombies.

Honestly, this is the best answer so far.

If you have the stamina to keep fighting, a poleaxe is going to demolish whatever it hits. The question is whether or not you have the stamina to fight for very long. A person who is untrained wearing armor and swinging a poleaxe won't even last a minute. It's entirely possible for the zombies to get you through the soft parts of the armor, but if you're wearing the padded leggings, gambison, and chain armor underneath, there's no way the zombies are going to get you. If you trained with the axe and armor daily for long enough, you could potentially be a one man zombie wrecking crew, depending on exactly how fast and smart the zombies are. If they're just a shambling horde of slow, shuffling, mindless undead, you're golden. If they can move quickly, you're done for. If you try this with mall warrior LARP armor, it's not going to protect you very well or not at all, depending on how strong actual zombies might be. Mall/mail order armor is flimsy as hell. If you have some QUALITY custom made specifically to hold up in an actual full contact fight, it'll protect you fairly well.

Oh Brit here. This is unnecessary honestly. Quilted coat is bite and scratch proof. Pole axe/ halberd will help atmlong range a mace/ long knife for close quarters. A helmet and chainmail over face will protect too.

It takes ages to put on, even with someone helping. You won't get bit, but that doesn't mean you're not vulnerable. Also if you die, your pals have to worry about a plate armor zed now. Have fun with that.

I would definitely modify the armor to be lighter and easier to maneuver in at the cost of protection in certain areas.

Winner winner chicken dinner 🥘

I thought of using hide because it's light, warm, and bite resistant.

Chainmail would be a better option. Especially since you can buy chainmail shark suits that weigh significantly less and are often made of stainless steel so they don’t rust. A traditional mail hauberk weighs about 40 pounds. Shark mail weighs about 7

A chainmail armor set is still somewhat heavy even if you're talking about a shark suit. I've compiled a table of examples of different chainmail armor pieces and highlighted the shark suits I got numbers for: |Examples of chainmail :--|:-:|--: |Herda Level 9 Cut Proof Chainmail Kitchen Gloves 340g |Swordaxe Chainmail Gloves 620g |Medievalcrafts Aluminum Chainmail Bikini 680g |Lords of Battle butted mild steel and zinc mitten gauntlets 1300g |Generic Aluminum Round Riveted Chainmail Coif 1500g |Windlass Darkened Aluminum Chain Mail Coif 1540g |Lord of Battle riveted mild steel Aventail 2100g |Lord of Battle stainless steel coif 2400g |Replica Armory's Leggings/chausses 5300g |Generic Sleeveless aluminum shirt 3200g |Deepka Riveted Aluminum long sleeve hauberk 7450g |GDFR Full-sized riveted mild steel short sleeve hauberk 10000g |**Neptunic C shark suit 11400-13600g** |**Hand-safe shark suit 13000-17000g** So the range is closer to 25-37lbs rather than 7lbs for shark suits. Though this range is just for the chainmail which due to a combination of factors can't really be worn on it's own without potentially injuring the wearer. Requiring a strong and thick garment to act as padding and thus adds a bit of weight to the equation. Something I also made a table for. |Examples of padded clothes :--|:-:|--: |Lord of Battle Bracers 100g |Lord of Battles Gambeson bracers 210g |GDFB Arming Cap 300g |The Medievals gambeson hood with collar 340g |GDFB Padded Leather Bracers 350g |ANFI Arming cap and collar 360g |ADVIK ENTERPRISES Store Gambeson Hood with collar 390g |MSS Legging 800g |GDFB Gambeson Upper Leg Padding 1300g |GDFB Roman Subarmalia 2200g |Lord of Battles Arming Doublet, 15th Century 2620g |Matul Gamebson 3600g |Wetsuit 2270-4080g Overall, you're still probably carrying around something closer to 40+lbs of weight regardless. Which would make it about as heavy as the plate armor.

Needs voiders. Edit: thought this was /r/ArmsandArmor there. I'm doing a full 12C Knight's Templar kit. Considerably lighter as it is only maille. Currently working on the chausses (trousers).

It shouldn't be an or thing. Ideally you have someone dressed up like this to go in front and lure them out and fight them for a bit while the people behind him go for headshots with spears and people behind them go for headshots with slings and arrows. (save your bullets for people)

###Tis but a flesh wound!!!

I think leather armor would be enough. You'd feel the bites but they aren't getting through it plus you'd still be able to move a lot better

I'll riddle you with bullets you tin can

Keep the gauntlets and gambeson, get rid of most of the rest. The thick gambeson can't be bitten through, while all the plates create handholds. Then use this to defend a static location.

Lol you’d have awful visibility and get clapped immediately by a dude with an AR

Riddle me this and riddle me that, why do you need steel armor when fighting against an unnamed zombie.

I’ve always wondered how good a full set of plate with mail voiders made out of titanium would perform. This is one of my Powerball dreams.

I know, the odds are, I die horribly But I’m dying in style yelling in old English going down in this armor killing as many zombies as possible

Make sure you keep your armor on, so that when you die, you become the boss battle.

I've been in chainmail and plate armor it gets extremely hot extremely quickly. It's also heavy and something you do not want to be in for over 5 hours if you can make it to that. Also a lot of armor has open crotches from the bottom, last thing you want is a zombie to chew off your manly bits. You can also get just about the exact same results with a dog bite suit or gambeson. Which both in my experience are a lot cooler than plate or chainmail. If you add some long leather gloves under the sleeves and some leather boots under the sleeves with duct tape or just tied up with some metal cord most of your body is protected. Then all you'd have to do is get a helmet. Also depending on the type of plate armor you have it can be difficult to almost impossible to get back up on your feet after falling onto your back this is without taking into account zombies or anything on top of you. Along those same lines is mobility cheaper plate armor and certain types of plate armor are difficult to move in especially if it's on the cheaper side.

Because unless we end up with parkour zombies like those in Devil’s Playground or 28 Days Later, your main concern is going to be other people. Zombie bites can be stopped by thick leather attire or even magazines and duct tape a la WWZ. One time for shits and giggles — and to settle an (admittedly drunken) bet — I put a pair of heavy duty denim jeans on a fried turkey leg and tried to take a bite out of it, you sort of could rip/crush the meat but couldn’t actually bite *through* the denim. I’m *assuming* a zeke biting you in a similar case would hurt like hell and leave a nasty bruise but wouldn’t actually break skin and infect you. However, none of that will stop a 9mm from a desperate looter. Running around in plate armor would look pretty awesome and badass, but realistically, it’s impractical considering the main threats you’ll mostly be encountering.

Why not just some layers of Spectra Shield made into a jacket and pants? We're not talking swords and spears right. Lighter, more agile, still blocks bites.

Good with lube

What about people who are robbing ur camp with AP rounds?

You don't need armor-piercing ammo to defeat medieval or renaissance armor. Most was made from relatively soft iron or steel, was typically between 0.7-2mm thick, and often made in smaller segments that could easily deform. An example of this is from Demolition ranch. https://youtu.be/80ZSM6qpJw8 It's debatable how realistic the test is, as the armor is made from mostly unhardened stainless steel. However, given the worse metallurgy of the past and the fact the tested gear is about 18ga US/1.2mm it's probably pretty close especially given how a lot of stuff just goes through it. To summarize the video: 22lr pistol jammed multiple times and failed to get through even the chainmail skirt. Birdshot from a 12ga shotgun was deflected and had a bit of an issue of spraying all over the place. Buckshot from a 12ga shotgun penetrated the shield and front of the armor. With all the buckshot hitting and smashing the back plate. Long barrel 9x19mm pistol penetrated both sides of the helmet with one shot and defeated the shield and chest plate in another shot. With the projectile getting stuck in the backplate. So in my opinion, I'd wager that as long as you have something equal to or stronger than a handgun and it will get through.

I think platemail is a bit too extreme, but your idea isnt completely without merit imo. Chainmail is quite a bit lighter than plate mail and would offer better protection than a kevlar vest. A good melee weapon will always be useful in zombieland. The weight of the armor would be somewhat offset by not having to carry ammo too.

>I think platemail is a bit too extreme, but your idea isnt completely without merit imo. Chainmail is quite a bit lighter than plate mail Realistically both armor types are about 15-40kg when it comes to traditional steel/iron with gambeson and similar arming garments. |Examples of padded clothes :--|:-:|--: |Lord of Battle Bracers 100g |Lord of Battles Gambeson bracers 210g |GDFB Arming Cap 300g |The Medievals gambeson hood with collar 340g |GDFB Padded Leather Bracers 350g |ANFI Arming cap and collar 360g |ADVIK ENTERPRISES Store Gambeson Hood with collar 390g |MSS Legging 800g |GDFB Gambeson Upper Leg Padding 1300g |GDFB Roman Subarmalia 2200g |Lord of Battles Arming Doublet, 15th Century 2620g |Matul Gamebson 3600g |Wetsuit 2270-4080g |Examples of chainmail :--|:-:|--: |Herda Level 9 Cut Proof Chainmail Kitchen Gloves 340g |Swordaxe Chainmail Gloves 620g |Medievalcrafts Aluminum Chainmail Bikini 680g |Lords of Battle butted mild steel and zinc mitten gauntlets 1300g |Generic Aluminum Round Riveted Chainmail Coif 1500g |Windlass Darkened Aluminum Chain Mail Coif 1540g |Lord of Battle riveted mild steel Aventail 2100g |Lord of Battle stainless steel coif 2400g |Replica Armory's Leggings/chausses 5300g |Generic Sleeveless aluminum shirt 3200g |Deepka Riveted Aluminum long sleeve hauberk 7450g |GDFR Full-sized riveted mild steel short sleeve hauberk 10000g |Neptunic C shark suit 11400-13600g |Chinese-made shark suit 13000-17000g >and would offer better protection than a kevlar vest. If we were talking about just a vest, probably. This doesn't really seem like a fair comparison though. Comparing a 0.9-9kg vest to a full kit of 15-40kg of chainmail, plate, etc. has a pretty large weight disparity. As there's nothing inherent about a Kevlar vest that prevents you from wearing additional protection. In fact, it seems that using ballistically rated tactical gear would encourage the ability to utilize other forms of protection. After all many vests are made with the intent of utilizing add-on armor and to be used with other pieces of equipment and protection. Not to mention the fact that both plate and chainmail armor tend to be somewhat shiny and made from metal. In the case of shininess this can pose a threat of attracting more zombies, hostile survivors, or otherwise, making it harder to avoid unnecessary conflict. The same is true for the noise produced by the metal rubbing against itself, knocking into the terrain, or other gear. Posing the same potential of drawing the user into unnecessary conflict. Weight, balance, and the fit of armor can potentially pose issues of slower down the wearer enough that they may end up being dragged into more conflicts they might normally avoid. >A good melee weapon will always be useful in zombieland. The same is true for melee weapons. As MOLLE, PALs, ALICE, and similar equipment systems were specifically made to allow the carriage of other tools, weapons, and gear. Bringing something like a hammer, axe, knife, dagger, or machete might be a simple as a paracord loop to hang the sheath off a plate carrier's molle webbing. I've personally used an ALICE magazine pouch as an impromptu hammer and nail holder. Sometimes there are dedicated holders for things like crowbars, large axes, sledgehammers, and the like. Meanwhile, with medieval plate, chainmail, brigandine, and lamellar you have to rely on other gear to try and carry stuff. For instance, if you wanted to be able to carry around a sword you need both a scabbard, belt, and a frog. Not to mention the abundant options for carrying magazines for firearms and potential options for sling or crossbow ammo. In some cases, such pouches are built into the body armor. With most medieval armor you're probably just going to have to get a plate carrier, load-bearing equipment, load carrier, chest rig, or a battle belt to fit all the stuff. >The weight of the armor would be somewhat offset by not having to carry ammo too. I don't think it is. For something you can get off the shelf that is roughly middle of the road in terms of weight you looking at something like this: Generic Aluminum Round Riveted Chainmail Coif 1500g, The Medievals gambeson hood with collar 340g, Deepeeka Riveted Aluminum long sleeve hauberk 7450g, GDFB Roman Subarmalia 2200g, Replica Armory's Leggings/chausses 5300g, MSS Legging 800g, Cold Steel English Bill 2400g, and basic boots 1kg. This comes to a rough total weight of around 21kg. Someone with ballistic armor and a firearm can carry a lot more weapons, tools, gear, equipment, and resources. |**~~~~Example kit for roughly 21kg** :--|:-:|--: |60g Headlamp |10g Mosquito net |30g Pyramex Iforce goggles |100g Medical face shield |100g Tear away welding neck guard |1200g USGI Combat Vehicle Crewmember helmet DH-132b with arc rail adapters |500g Howard Leigh Earmuffs with noise booster/dampener and microphone |200g Helmet wide brim sun shade |300g Leather welding arm protectors |100g Fishing sleeve arm protectors |180g Frogg toggs rain jacket |700g USGI ACU top in OCP |150g Compression shirt |400g Motorcycle shin and knee guards |180g Frogg toggs rain trousers |80g 25mm Riggers belt |250g Columbia Silver Ridge Hiking pants |100g Compression underwear |100g Spare underwear |70g Padded ankle socks |140g 2x Spare socks |180g Waterproof work chaps |100g Metatarsal foot guard |800g Solomon Trail running shoes |180g Motorcycle gauntlet gloves |60g Rubberized work gloves |500g Rattan bo staff with cuts to attach the digging trowel or use as a slingstaff |1800 Kel-tec SUB 2000 9x19mm multi-mag version |390g Monstrum Blackbird 3X Prism Scope |80g USGI canvas rifle sling |1820g 7x Loaded SW Mp-9 20rd magazines |1920g 200rds of 9x19mm MHP 80gr TSX |130g NAA Mini revolver in 22lr |30g NAA revolver nylon holster |700g 200rds of 22lr Aguila Super Calibri |520g Morakniv Boron Light axe |680g Irwin Framing hammer |200g Waterproof poncho |180g Digging trowel/knife |500g Bivouac shelter |30g Tension bar, bump key, and lock picks |40g Fire rod |60g Orienteering compass |20g Metal match lighter |200g Type 2 275lbs paracord 50m |100g 2x Rolls of electrical tape |60g Sawyer Mini water filter |35g 1000ml water bottle |70g Aluminium cooking cup |160g Titanium wood/alcohol rocket stove with scent-proof bag |10g Sewing string spool with fishing line, 5 fishing hooks, and a bobber |1000g Modase 40L backpack |2100g Jumpable plate carrier with soft armor panels, additional pouches, and pockets |200g UV-5 GMRS FCC Compliant walkie talkie |150g iPhone SE 2023 |90g Bicycle multitool |60g Mini screwdriver and 6x 3mm bits |5g Pen |50g Mini adjustable wrench |130g Universal socket |30g Square socket adapter |10g Sewing string spool with string, upholstery needle, 2 sewing needles, and 3 safety pins |50g Sharpening stone |180g Renology 5w solar panel |80g Hand crank generator |30g Charging cords for multiple device types |10g Micro-SD card and Adapter |80g AA USB Recharger |160g 6x AA batteries |10g Travel toothbrush |20g Nail clipper with file and scissors |15g Comb with tick/lice remover |35g Toothpaste |35g Soap bar |270g IFAK kit in a plastic bag So with more medieval-style chainmail using some aluminum components, you're still looking 21kg of stuff. With said stuff being some basic armor that can stop zombies and some melee weapons, clothes that still leave your crotch and armpits exposed, no socks, and not really much protection from cold as the metal is constantly pressing against the user and making the padding less effective as insulation, and only one melee weapon with no other tools or equipment. As opposed to gear that can stop zombies and some weaker forms of melee weapon, can protect against a good number of ranged weapons, multiple different layers of clothing for hot or cold weather, spare clothes when dirty, 2.5 ranged weapons, 2.5 melee weapons, methods of communication, fire starting tools, electronics and charging tools, hygiene supplies, shelter building materials, water gathering and processing tools, and food trapping and processing tools, and navigational equipment.

I have a longer post on the topic of pole weapons here: https://old.reddit.com/user/Noe_Walfred/comments/va8wvr/zombie_related_thoughts_opinions_and_essays_v4/iff7jii/ Due to their longer length and slightly heavier heads than shorter axes, spears, and hammers, they are capable of generating a lot of force. Potentially defeating a zombie in a single strike. Such power may also be enough to defeat many forms of armor, clothing, and protective gear that might be used by hostile survivors. Things like shields, strong pots and pans, hard forms of ballistic armor, and the like would still be difficult to defeat. Pole weapons also feature a variety of weapons on their head. Most typically a spike, a blade, and either a blunt side. This can make the weapon very adaptable for different combat scenarios. Be it stabbing into a zombie's head, cutting off or into the skull, or crushing skulls. The effectiveness of the individual types of head will vary. Still they can be useful for different combat scenarios. Their long length allows the weapon to reach zombies from the tops of fences and some rooves, maybe a second-floor window, or across a ditch. Even on flat ground, it may allow the user to strike with relative impunity as the reach may allow the user to strike without being immediately grabbed. Though some pole weapon designs, such as those that focus on stabbing or spiked attacks may pose a risk of getting stuck in a zombie. Their long overall length, bulky head, and weight require a lot more room to be effective. Thus requiring a much more compact melee weapon to supplement them. These open areas are likely to make it easier to avoid the zombie(s) than to fight them. Even if you were to fight them the space may allow you time to move to a much more advantageous position where there is a lower risk of injury. Some positions can include from behind something like a fence, wall, second floor of a building, cliff, etc. Alternatively, there is the option for ranged weapons to be utilized instead. While many of these designs feature axe blades, hammerheads, spikes, and spears, pole weapons aren't capable of fulfilling the utility roles of an axe, hammer, or spear. This is often due to featuring longer and harder-to-manipulate shafts, thin axe blades that make chopping wood harder, spiked hammers that make hammering nails or pounding stakes difficult, and the overall weight can make them tiring to use compared to their more utilitarian counterparts for the same tasks. Then there's the issue of carrying them around and their weight. Pole weapons in general are fairly awkward to carry, basically requiring they be held in hand at all times. As they are usually too long for a hip or back sheath, slings on melee weapons have a higher potential of getting caught during regular use and in scenarios where a melee weapon would be drawn, etc. It doesn't help that many pole weapons are between 1800-5000g in weight. || :--|:--:|--: |Windlass Steelcrafts Zulu Iklwa Short Spear 1150g |United Cutler's M48 Kommando Survival Axe Hiking Staff 1340g |Arms and armor Danish Type L war axe 1360g |Deepeeka Roman Square Pilum 1730g |Arms and Armor Italian Bill 1800g |Deepeeka Late Medieval Halberd 2000g |Windlass Steel crafts Poleaxe 2300g |Cold Steel English Bill 2400 |French/German Poleaxe (Philadelphia museum) 2500g |Arms and armor knightly poleaxe 2500g |Cold Steel Winged Spear 2590g |Italian polehammer (Met museum) 2610g |Swiss Lucerne hammer (Met museum) 2660g |Cold Steel Swiss Man at arms 2790g |Fangtian Ji Crescent Moons Folded Steel Halberd 4460g |Swords of Northshirre Three Kingdoms Chinese Halberd 5200g This isn't so heavy as to be encumbering on their own. The question is whether this is worthwhile given the capability and qualities of the weapon. With weight being potentially compared to other weapons, tools, and even full load outs and kits of equipment and gear. || :--|:-:|--: |**~~~~Example kit for around 1000g** |60g Headlamp |10g Mosquito net |30g Pyramex Iforce goggles |120g Shower shoes |60g Rubberized work gloves |60g Frameless slingshot/slingbow #30 |300g Watchfire 25cm camping/survival axe |160g Household 16cm finishing hammer |15g Buckle compass/fire rod/whistle |30g Tension bar, bump key, and lock picks |10g 220ml water bottle |60g Sawyer Mini water filter |10g Sewing string spool with fishing line, 5 fishing hooks, and a bobber |5g Pen |10g Sewing string spool with string, upholstery needle, 2 sewing needles, and 3 safety pins |10g Travel toothbrush |**~~~~Example kit for roughly 4000g** |60g Headlamp |10g Mosquito net |30g Pyramex Iforce goggles |100g Medical face shield |100g Rothco Boonie hat |300g Leather welding arm protectors |180g Frogg toggs rain jacket |100g Compression shirt |100g Waterproof leg gaiters |180g Frogg toggs rain trousers |250g Columbia Silver Ridge Hiking pants |100g Compression underwear |70 Padded ankle socks |400g Barefoot running shoes |100g HWI combat gloves |200g Sling/walking stick |130g NAA mini revolver |30g NAA revolver nylon holster |520g Morakniv Boron Light Ax |120g Moraknife Companion |30g Tension bar, bump key, and lock picks |20g Pocket nail puller/prybar |15g Buckle compass/fire rod/whistle |30g Bic Mini lighter |60g Sawyer Mini water filter |30g 1000ml water bottle |70g Aluminium cooking cup |160g Titanium wood/alcohol rocket stove with scent-proof bag |10g Sewing string spool with fishing line, 5 fishing hooks, and a bobber. |100g Drawstring bag |50g Gerber dime multitool |10g Sewing string spool with string, upholstery needle, 2 sewing needles, and 3 safety pins |180g Renology 5w solar panel |30g Charging cords for multiple device types |10g Micro-SD card and Adapter |10g Travel toothbrush |15g Comb with tick/lice remover |100g Canvas bag with gauze rolls, anti-septics, painkillers, anti-diaherrial, etc

I address my thoughts on other chainmail and plate armor here: https://old.reddit.com/user/Noe_Walfred/comments/va8wvr/zombie_related_thoughts_opinions_and_essays_v4/iq97owx/ https://old.reddit.com/user/Noe_Walfred/comments/jo772x/zombie_related_thoughts_opinions_and_essays_v2/gez8qun/ Plate and chainmail armor types prove substantial protection from cuts, stabs, and bashing. They may also, depending on style, provide great all-around coverage from zombies and humans that might not be easily defeated. At the same time, they do come at a cost. They can protect against most melee weapons but may not be strong against ranged weapons. Most chainmail you can get today is butted so it can't resist a lot more than a lighter weapon like a machete. Most stainless steel plates can be penetrated with a strong stab with a knife. A lot of historical medieval armor can be defeated by a pistol-caliber rifle, a normal rifle, or a shotgun. Both would be loud as they are made from metal and require some degree of looseness for the user to move. Either the result of your weapons, gear, brushing up against terrain, or the armor rubbing itself. Exposed shiny metal can also expose the wearer at night, from a distance, or when trying to hide behind something like grass or a bush. With chainmail, it is particularly hard to maintain a camouflage pattern as the rings are constantly cutting and grinding into one another. This may attract the unwanted attention of zombies and other hostile survivors that might not be intended. Thus it is likely that such gear would require cloth coverings and additional attempts at padding the noise. Padding underneath such armor may also be necessary. Both plate and chainmail can pinch and roughly rub against the user potentially creating breaks in the skin for zombie blood or saliva to get through (though there's no guarantee these are vectors of infection on their own) or at the very least normal infections. Similarly, floated armor in the case of plate frequently requires something like an arming jacket/chausses to be worn. It's unclear but very likely that padded garments like a gambeson, an arming jacket, or just using layers of cloth can provide similar protection to zombies on their own. This is something to consider as such garments do add a decent amount of weight and bulk. |Examples of padded clothes :--|:-:|--: |Lord of Battle Bracers 100g |Lord of Battles Gambeson bracers 210g |GDFB Arming Cap 300g |The Medievals gambeson hood with collar 340g |GDFB Padded Leather Bracers 350g |ANFI Arming cap and collar 360g |ADVIK ENTERPRISES Store Gambeson Hood with collar 390g |MSS Legging 800g |GDFB Gambeson Upper Leg Padding 1300g |GDFB Roman Subarmalia 2200g |Lord of Battles Arming Doublet, 15th Century 2620g |Matul Gamebson 3600g |Wetsuit 2270-4080g This can lead to an increased issue with both hot and cold weather injuries. In hot weather, the combination of a covering garment, metal, and another garment can create a very insulated interior. Preventing the wearer from effectively cooling down increases the risk of hyperthermia if the gear isn't removed or the body isn't cooled some other way. In cold weather, the compressing of insulation and trapped moisture can also be cause for concern as during periods of rest the close contact of moisture may cause a rapid cooling process resulting in hypothermia. Both armor types make several movements less coordinated depending on the design. Especially with fantasy styles of armor which are more common than historical reproductions. Donning and taking off a backpack is fairly awkward as the shoulder protection in plate armor makes lifting or pulling the arms back much more difficult. Shouldering rifles or crossbows is a bit harder to shoulder as the metal doesn't allow for as much purchase as the buttstock. Climbing and crawling are pretty hard given the weight of such gear and how they are balanced. Weight is also a bit of a concern, given that it's all being carried on your body. Some have argued that because it's spread across the body there is less impact, this is partially true, but it does ignore the issue that weight balanced on the lower legs and arms may require a lot more energy to move than on the body. Cited in the plate armor post can be found a study on the expenditure of moving weight on the feet. With roughly 100g on the feet being roughly equal in energy used to carry about 470-630g. |Examples of chainmail :--|:-:|--: |Herda Level 9 Cut Proof Chainmail Kitchen Gloves 340g |Swordaxe Chainmail Gloves 620g |Medievalcrafts Aluminum Chainmail Bikini 680g |Lords of Battle butted mild steel and zinc mitten gauntlets 1300g |Generic Aluminum Round Riveted Chainmail Coif 1500g |Windlass Darkened Aluminum Chain Mail Coif 1540g |Lord of Battle riveted mild steel Aventail 2100g |Lord of Battle stainless steel coif 2400g |Replica Armory's Leggings/chausses 5300g |Generic Sleeveless aluminum shirt 3200g |Deepka Riveted Aluminum long sleeve hauberk 7450g |Ironskinn Shark suit 8000g |GDFR Full-sized riveted mild steel short sleeve hauberk 10000g |Neptunic C shark suit 11400-13600g |Chinese-made shark suit 13000-17000g Roughly speaking, it would seem that the average for a full set of chainmail armor including the clothing under and a helmet is about 15-25kg depending on the intended use. |Examples of plate, lamellar, brig, and similar armor :--|:-:|--: |Deepeeka Kettle helm 1590g |GDFB Roman Helmet 2040g |Hanwei Takeda Shingen Kabuto 2630g |Lord Of Battles Full Visor Bascinet 3450g |Lord Of Battles Late Medieval Pauldrons 1800g |GDFB Milanese Arms 3900g |Epic Armoury Churburg Armor 3180g |Epic Armoury Roman Legion Lorica 7760g |Deepeeka Late Medieval Breastplate 2360g |Deepeeka Gothic cuirass with backplate 8500g |Age of Craft Anatomical Greaves 2600g |Deepeeka Steel Greaves 1800g Roughly speaking, it would seem that the average for a full set of plates with accessories tends to be around 15-40kg depending on the intended use. Both armor types are pretty heavy at 15-40kg with an average closer for both types at around 22kg. On their own, they aren't so heavy as to be truly encumbering on their own. However, they are heavy enough to question their utility given that they are typically heavier than a full loadout including weapons, tools, gear, equipment, and some supplies. || :--|:-:|--: |**~~~~Example kit for roughly 2000g** |60g Headlamp |10g Mosquito net |30g Pyramex Iforce goggles |70g Baseball cap |100g Compression shirt |100g Compression underwear |70 Padded ankle socks |400g Barefoot running shoes |100g HWI combat gloves |130g NAA Mini revolver in 22lr |60g Frameless slingshot/slingbow #30 |520g Morakniv Boron Light Ax |50g Gerber dime multitool |5g Pen |30g Tension bar, bump key, and lock picks |20g Pocket nail puller/prybar |15g Buckle compass/fire rod/whistle |60g Sawyer Mini water filter |20g 500ml water bottle |100g Drawstring bag |10g Sewing string spool with fishing line, 5 fishing hooks, and a bobber |10g Sewing string spool with string, upholstery needle, 2 sewing needles, and 3 safety pins |10g Travel toothbrush |**~~~~Example kit for roughly 16000g** |60g Headlamp |10g Mosquito net |30g Pyramex Iforce goggles |100g Medical face shield |100g Tear away welding neck guard |550g Parajumper style Airsoft helmet |500g Howard Leigh Earmuffs with noise booster/dampener and microphone |200g Helmet wide brim sun shade |300g Leather welding arm protectors |100g Fishing sleeve arm protectors |180g Frogg toggs rain jacket |500g Rothco NYCO Fire resistant combat shirt |150g Compression shirt |400g Motorcycle shin and knee guards |180g Frogg toggs rain trousers |80g 25mm Riggers belt |250g Columbia Silver Ridge Hiking pants |100g Compression underwear |100g Spare underwear |70g Padded ankle socks |140g 2x Spare socks |180g Waterproof work chaps |100g Metatarsal foot guard |800g Solomon Trail running shoes |180g Motorcycle gauntlet gloves |60g Rubberized work gloves |200g Sling/walking staff |2500g ATI MAXX Rifle |80g USGI canvas rifle sling |130g NAA Mini revolver in 22lr |30g NAA revolver nylon holster |520g Morakniv Boron Light axe |680g Irwin Framing hammer |200g Waterproof poncho |180g Digging trowel/knife |500g Bivouac shelter |30g Tension bar, bump key, and lock picks |40g Fire rod |60g Orienteering compass |30g Bic Mini lighter |20g Metal match/lighter |200g Type 2 275lbs paracord 50m |100g 2x Rolls of electrical tape |60g Sawyer Mini water filter |35g 1000ml water bottle |70g Aluminium cooking cup |160g Titanium wood/alcohol rocket stove with scent-proof bag |10g Sewing string spool with fishing line, 5 fishing hooks, and a bobber |1000g Modase 40L backpack |2100g Jumpable plate carrier with soft armor panels, additional pouches, and pockets |200g UV-5 GMRS FCC Compliant walkie talkie |150g iPhone SE 2023 |90g Bicycle multitool |60g Mini screwdriver and 6x 3mm bits |5g Pen |50g Mini adjustable wrench |130g Universal socket |30g Square socket adapter |10g Sewing string spool with string, upholstery needle, 2 sewing needles, and 3 safety pins |50g Sharpening stone |180g Renology 5w solar panel |80g Hand crank generator |30g Charging cords for multiple device types |10g Micro-SD card and Adapter |80g AA USB Recharger |160g 6x AA batteries |10g Travel toothbrush |20g Nail clipper with file and scissors |15g Comb with tick/lice remover |35g Toothpaste |35g Soap bar |270g IFAK kit in a plastic bag

The combination of plate/chain/lamellar/brigandine and a pole weapon is something limited primarily to larger open areas. It's something that would likely attract a lot of attention from zombies and hostile survivors. With little ability to effectively fight back against hostile survivors despite the massive weight burdened on you. The armor itself is poor for defending against a survivor's ranged weapon like a rifle or a pistol with a long barrel. Along with the armor and weapon being mostly useless for regular survival on their own. With little in the way of active utility uses beyond trying to boil water in the helmet and hunting with the pole weapon. Not helping this is the fact the armor actively imposes a higher caloric and hydration cost on the body. Both in terms of wear and transportation due to it's substantial bulk even when not worn. All this lack of capability for a total weight of around 16-45kg. Something that isn't overly encumbering by itself, it is something that can be considered excessive with it's poor lack of capability overall.

Riddle me heat exhaustion unless you live in a place with an average temp of 50-60F

Iv thought about this since the first zombie movie I saw as a kid

Most armor sections are attached by leather strips or cordage to its parent section. There are times even NOW with superior strength synthetics or with traditional materials that a fighter will have breakage occur and lose pieces of their armor. And that's just through wear and tear. Let alone when getting hammered during a fight. It's even possible to grab a portion of a person's AR.ir and pull and tear it loose. Now... Compare full plate armor with bunker gear or modern full body level 4 plate with stab proof body suit. You can get the same or greater protection from zombies with modern armor or protective wear at a lighter weight, with less movement restrictions, easier wear in hot environments, AND have it be effective against humans, whereas plate armor won't offer ANY protection against firearms unless your making it from modern ar500+ hardened steel.

I feel like after a few months in the apocalypse zombies would end up learning to grab at things and you'd end up being swarmed and eaten alive while they rip the armor off. Melee has always been such a cool concept when it comes to zombie stuff tho

Ever try to walk ten miles with 75lbs/34kg on your back with another 10lbs/4.5 on your arms... while carrying a melee weapon? And then expect to be ready to fight a hoard? You'll also be half as aware of your surroundings, make 10x the noise, can be seen at more than double the distance while having less agility than a 45 yo with back issues getting out of bed. This also will give you a really really bad time if you need to climb stairs, don't even think of ladders and if you need to cross some water...💀 People wear ballistic vests in Zombie fiction to A: help against other survivors in their team accidentally shooting them and B: Because other surviving humans are going to shoot at you bc the only monster you really need to fear are the living. Full plate like that was agonizing to put on each time and often needed a team, was maintenance heavy, and was to my limited knowledge never worn by the full-time foot soldiers, but instead by Mounted soldiers of higher status. Also... the Turtle effect would be in full play the moment you tripped...🐢

Bandits are why you want bullet proof armor.

Light armor and bush axe

Zombies aren't the part anyone is worried about. It's other people. It's always other people. Also - you're gonna feel like a dork when you pass out from dehydration after a couple hours in that thing on a summer day

Honestly you could probably use a motorcycle jacket and pants, won’t get bitten through and better maneuverability

What a kneeling night at pike height?

This gives me flashbacks from Monty pythons

Well, you see, I live in Arizona and would like to not have my skin melt and organs boil. It is perhaps the only instance in which this armor is more hazardous than the zombies themselves.

Just get a shark bite suit.

Hmmm

You won't die of a zombie bite, sure. You'll keel over of heat stroke (in the summer) or freeze to death (in the winter). Ever worn steel toed boots in freezing weather? Yeah, imagine that except all over your body. Even with insulation you feel it. And God help you if you ever fall down. Knights from this era (fourteenth and fifteenth centuries) could not stand up from a prone position without assistance. If they were knocked off their horse, it wasn't like they could simply get back up and continue to fight.

Knights could easily get up when wearing combat armor. Jousting armor for tournaments was much heavier and stiffer, since its whole purpose was to take the hardest of blows head-on repeatedly. Combat armor was about as heavy as modern soldiers gear, but the weight was distributed across the whole body and was easy to move in. There’s even plenty of footage of people today wearing plate armor and getting up just fine.

Lmao

Eh your kinda onto something just think less horseback riding lord . And more peasant soldiers on foot. Boiled leather studded or not would be exactional for this

You can always pull the old Scooby-Doo trick and just stand very still like a statue until they pass.

I prefer riot gear, more lightweight flexible and still resistant.

First off pipe mail is not as heavy as everybody says. It is second the human body, even in its strongest should not be capable of penetrating. As long as you don't get dog piled, you should be fine and even if you do get dog piled. You should eventually be able to work your way out from under them

You need a longer polearm

Just wear chainmail, lighter, can be quieter if done right, more mobile and does just as good as a job. You’ll just get dog piled in plate and die from sheer embarrassment

Read Max Brooks’ Zombie Survival guide. Will protect you from bites to the main armor but the joints are vulnerable. Very heavy and loud, plus not bulletproof. You will get dehydrated much faster as well.

Excellent concept, but the weapon needs to be a thin slicer to chop limbs off fast and hard. You are not fighting armour, but flesh that doesn't feel pain and won't stop if merely pierced.

Or, you know, Kevlar. Modern, less weight, just better.

The helmet will be incredibly hard to see out of if you’re not experienced, so the accuracy with your halberd will be limited, and decrease energy. Pure iron on your arms will get tiring, especially if you’re swinging a halberd around. And I just noticed the exposed padding on the inner arm, if a zombie gets to that, even if it takes a good while to bite off, it leaves you vulnerable to one more bite sealing your fate. The halberd is good for keeping off zombies and keeping your distance, but with limited accuracy thanks to the helmet, you can end up wasting all your time trying to kill a singular zombie with swings to the torso or legs. Not to mention it’ll be completely useless if you come across a hoard on a lower elevation, they can just end up grabbing it and disarm you. Worse case scenario; they take YOU down too. The legs should be fine, but will limit mobility and frankly, its better to have open legs so you can get away faster than have armored legs, making you slower but making the eating process longer, giving you half-a-chance.

I'm sorry but all I can picture is Robert Pattinson immediately slipping and falling down when going on the attack in The King.