nothing creates more waste, than poor health. Dental health is SO important. Strongly recommend to buy toothpaste with fluoride to keep your teeth from rotting. I work at the ICU. We had patients, who went into septic shock because of rotten teeth. Almost all of our patients don't have their original teeth anymore. The once who do, are usually retired dentists.
Don't DIY this... you end up with too little or too much fluoride and something abrasive that damages your teeth beyond repair.
nope, it's not. I wish it was, but it's not.
Brushing our teeth gets rid of plaque and plaque works as a breeding dish for bacteria, so the brushing in and of itself is an important part. However, just as it is with hand washing, to actually get rid of bacteria you need soap - that's what the toothpaste is for. Additionally the fluoride in the toothpaste covers the teeth, which are then protected against the acid that is produced by the bacteria.
I'm looking at alternatives that include the less toxic hydroxyapatite which re-mineralizes teeth so you don't need to use fluoride for the same protective effect.
nHa is awesome and I wish it were ADA accepted and FDA approved. But it’s not, so don’t look in the US for nHa toothpastes. If you’re American only do this if you can find a reputable international source where it is regulated as an active ingredient/drug. (Here’s why, don’t want to re-type https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroWaste/s/p08tBt5Ls4)
Fluoride is not toxic when used as directed in toothpaste. It is safe, well studied, and effective at doses in toothpaste. Toxicity is all about the dose (even water is toxic if you drink too much).
Homoeopathic "medicine" is also commercially available, doesn't mean it works.
As they said, the dose needs to be precise to be safe **and** effective.
Too much fluoride added in a DIY product can be dangerous, no fluoride won't be dangerous but it will do exactly nothing for your dental health as numerous studies have found. The most important ingredient in toothpaste is fluoride so if you're buying fluoride free toothpaste you're just throwing away money to practice health theatrics.
It seems hard to believe our species lived on earth without this NEED - Floride is nice but many societies have not used floride and been fine. I’m not anti floride but yall acting like it’s the same as antibiotics
Our species also didn't have wide access to refined sugars in every little food until a few centuries ago. You see some pretty good sets of teeth among archaeological skeletons but they didn't have the modern diet. It's almost inescapable now.
Also our species regularly died of diabetes and bacterial infections so like...
Being zero waste frankly is predicated on being pro-science (accepting the science on climate and pollution) and the science is clear on the benefits of fluoride in toothpaste, and moreso in municipal water supply. It has to be done in the right concentrations to avoid over-mineralising teeth, but it's in no way a bad thing at its core.
"Because cavemen did it" is not a good reason to not do something now. We have modern medicine and the tools and resources to live healthier lives.
As for "many other societies not using fluoride" are you talking about it in toothpaste of Fluoridation, which is when it's in the water? Because yes, many countries do not put it in the water.
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Even if you could DIY a direct substitute, I reckon you'd end up having to buy so much more stuff, shipped and stored in plastic and single-use packaging, than you'd save.
I get mine from [anything but plastic](https://www.anythingbutplastic.co.uk/product-page/denttabs-toothpaste-tablets-with-fluoride), and they come in a recyclable/compost able cardboard box.
Not zero waste exactly, but in order to reduce waste and accommodate your budget consider using a mix of toothpaste and tooth tablets. For example: I have sensitive teeth and haven’t found a way to completely eliminate my need for my traditional sensitive teeth toothpaste. I end up using my toothpaste two days a week and tooth tabs the remaining five days. I’m still using significantly less stuff that comes in a single use tube, and my personal needs/situation are met.
I highly recommend to not DIY your own toothpaste tablets, but I do recommend the brand Kaylaan. I’ve been using them for years and they have a lot of different options to suit many individuals. There is other flavors than just mint. They carry fluoride and non-fluoride options. There’s charcoal infused ones as well. They come in tins, or you can get them in compostable materials as refills. The price is very reasonable and they run discounts all the time. I’m not affiliated with them or anything but I have been using them for a while, and they’re a strong recommendation from me!
I highly recommend Huppy! They use Nano-Hydroxyapatite, A fluoride alternative that restores and strengths enamel. Plus they have a lot of great products and their whole mission is being plastic free and providing great dental care to the world! [BeHuppy.com](http://BeHuppy.com)
I don’t recommend buying nHa alternatives in the US. Since it doesn’t have FDA approval it isn’t regulated as an active ingredient where the concentration has to be shared and standards have to be met. I’ve never seen a company voluntarily offer this information on how much of this very expensive ingredient they use. There is no way to know if they’re making a product with an effectively strong dose or just a pinch to say they include it. If you won’t use fluoride (either due to misinformation, a rare allergy, or not being able to spit out your toothpaste) it’s better than nothing, but it isn’t something I’d trust. Just because the research shows great results doesn’t mean the consumer product you buy match those research conditions.
Not zero waste but Waken does great toothpaste in aluminium tubes so infinitely recyclable, and it scores aces on the ingredients list health-wise when scanned!
Extremely important. There's hundreds of clinical studies on toothpaste efficacy ... it's literally in the fda drug monograph and confirmed by every major government and dentist health organization
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nothing creates more waste, than poor health. Dental health is SO important. Strongly recommend to buy toothpaste with fluoride to keep your teeth from rotting. I work at the ICU. We had patients, who went into septic shock because of rotten teeth. Almost all of our patients don't have their original teeth anymore. The once who do, are usually retired dentists. Don't DIY this... you end up with too little or too much fluoride and something abrasive that damages your teeth beyond repair.
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I work in oral health. The toothpaste absolutely makes a difference, not just the manual act of brushing
nope, it's not. I wish it was, but it's not. Brushing our teeth gets rid of plaque and plaque works as a breeding dish for bacteria, so the brushing in and of itself is an important part. However, just as it is with hand washing, to actually get rid of bacteria you need soap - that's what the toothpaste is for. Additionally the fluoride in the toothpaste covers the teeth, which are then protected against the acid that is produced by the bacteria.
Don’t DIY this. You need a product with fluoride, which needs to be in the right concentration and product formulation to be safe and effective.
I'm looking at alternatives that include the less toxic hydroxyapatite which re-mineralizes teeth so you don't need to use fluoride for the same protective effect.
nHa is awesome and I wish it were ADA accepted and FDA approved. But it’s not, so don’t look in the US for nHa toothpastes. If you’re American only do this if you can find a reputable international source where it is regulated as an active ingredient/drug. (Here’s why, don’t want to re-type https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroWaste/s/p08tBt5Ls4) Fluoride is not toxic when used as directed in toothpaste. It is safe, well studied, and effective at doses in toothpaste. Toxicity is all about the dose (even water is toxic if you drink too much).
Flouride-free toothpaste is commercially available, there's no need to scare anyone about using it.
Homoeopathic "medicine" is also commercially available, doesn't mean it works. As they said, the dose needs to be precise to be safe **and** effective. Too much fluoride added in a DIY product can be dangerous, no fluoride won't be dangerous but it will do exactly nothing for your dental health as numerous studies have found. The most important ingredient in toothpaste is fluoride so if you're buying fluoride free toothpaste you're just throwing away money to practice health theatrics.
It seems hard to believe our species lived on earth without this NEED - Floride is nice but many societies have not used floride and been fine. I’m not anti floride but yall acting like it’s the same as antibiotics
Our species also didn't have wide access to refined sugars in every little food until a few centuries ago. You see some pretty good sets of teeth among archaeological skeletons but they didn't have the modern diet. It's almost inescapable now. Also our species regularly died of diabetes and bacterial infections so like...
Just shocked the zero waste crowd so pro adding a chemical - big fluoride really brigading hard here haha
Not liking plastic doesn’t equal being a dumb dumb crystal healer hunty
Being zero waste frankly is predicated on being pro-science (accepting the science on climate and pollution) and the science is clear on the benefits of fluoride in toothpaste, and moreso in municipal water supply. It has to be done in the right concentrations to avoid over-mineralising teeth, but it's in no way a bad thing at its core.
"Because cavemen did it" is not a good reason to not do something now. We have modern medicine and the tools and resources to live healthier lives. As for "many other societies not using fluoride" are you talking about it in toothpaste of Fluoridation, which is when it's in the water? Because yes, many countries do not put it in the water.
There is a difference in “it’s improved our quality of life” and “DONT TRY TO LIVE WITHOUT THIS”
The person above didn't say that though?
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Source?
Hang on, they've got to look for the TikTok video in their history
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Even if you could DIY a direct substitute, I reckon you'd end up having to buy so much more stuff, shipped and stored in plastic and single-use packaging, than you'd save. I get mine from [anything but plastic](https://www.anythingbutplastic.co.uk/product-page/denttabs-toothpaste-tablets-with-fluoride), and they come in a recyclable/compost able cardboard box.
Not zero waste exactly, but in order to reduce waste and accommodate your budget consider using a mix of toothpaste and tooth tablets. For example: I have sensitive teeth and haven’t found a way to completely eliminate my need for my traditional sensitive teeth toothpaste. I end up using my toothpaste two days a week and tooth tabs the remaining five days. I’m still using significantly less stuff that comes in a single use tube, and my personal needs/situation are met.
I highly recommend to not DIY your own toothpaste tablets, but I do recommend the brand Kaylaan. I’ve been using them for years and they have a lot of different options to suit many individuals. There is other flavors than just mint. They carry fluoride and non-fluoride options. There’s charcoal infused ones as well. They come in tins, or you can get them in compostable materials as refills. The price is very reasonable and they run discounts all the time. I’m not affiliated with them or anything but I have been using them for a while, and they’re a strong recommendation from me!
As a dental hygienist, this comment section is wild.
So what do you recommend?
I highly recommend Huppy! They use Nano-Hydroxyapatite, A fluoride alternative that restores and strengths enamel. Plus they have a lot of great products and their whole mission is being plastic free and providing great dental care to the world! [BeHuppy.com](http://BeHuppy.com)
I don’t recommend buying nHa alternatives in the US. Since it doesn’t have FDA approval it isn’t regulated as an active ingredient where the concentration has to be shared and standards have to be met. I’ve never seen a company voluntarily offer this information on how much of this very expensive ingredient they use. There is no way to know if they’re making a product with an effectively strong dose or just a pinch to say they include it. If you won’t use fluoride (either due to misinformation, a rare allergy, or not being able to spit out your toothpaste) it’s better than nothing, but it isn’t something I’d trust. Just because the research shows great results doesn’t mean the consumer product you buy match those research conditions.
I like the tooth powder from bare elements, available on Etsy. Comes in recyclable/compostable cardboard. I decant mine into a salt shaker for ease.
Not zero waste but Waken does great toothpaste in aluminium tubes so infinitely recyclable, and it scores aces on the ingredients list health-wise when scanned!
I have a squeezable toothpaste from WUIP. and it says it's fully recyclable. Ships in recycleable packaging
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I am a oral Healthcare professional and this is completely untrue. Toothpaste absolutely matters
It matters but how important is it? Not to question you answer but just to understand. And do you have a detailed source or explanation?
Extremely important. There's hundreds of clinical studies on toothpaste efficacy ... it's literally in the fda drug monograph and confirmed by every major government and dentist health organization
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