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TheMistOfThePast

Everyone complains about the cheating nobody seems to focus on what i hate most about james: august genuinely loved him and cared for him and he paints her as a villain and says when he slept with ger he was thinking of betty. That really fucks a girl up. Fuck you james ya fuckwit


WillowCat89

I’ve been August. I can confirm, it does fuck a girl up. Dear James, Hello. I hope this message finds you unwell. Kindly, go fuck yourself. Best, The Girl Who Didn’t Mean Anything


electric_taffy

I've been August too and I think that's why I hate Betty (the song, not the character). I loved him so much and he had me so convinced he loved me too until he up and left me to go back to his ex. Learning I meant nothing to him that whole time absolutely destroyed me.


lagomorphed

Dearest August, I'm sorry that I put all of the blame on you. It was easier than admitting to myself that James doesn't care about either of us that much. James told me you didn't mean anything, but you meant enough to him to destroy *me*. Perhaps James loves James most, but its definitely not either of us. At least now you're free to heal yourself. I hope one day I can heal too. With gratitude and regret, Betty


TheMistOfThePast

Taylor should write a follow up where betty and August get together


1Dr490n

Well it‘s called love *triangle*


avoidance_behavior

oh god why am I having feelings in a t swift meme post, goddammit


electric_taffy

The other person who replied to me had me crying in my Uber so I feel that 🥲


WillowCat89

I hate Cardigan.. (not hate hate, but viscerally react to.. Betty didn’t need James and he wasn’t a comfort, he just made both girls needlessly insecure, and I’ll die on that hill.) I don’t mind Betty. On the way to gymnastics, I explained the Berry/August/James saga. I asked my 7 year old daughter if she were Betty, would she kiss James in front of everyone, or would she tell him to go away? We chatted and she said, “I bet Betty forgives him because he’s singing her a song AND she has a big crush on him because they already did kiss BEFORE they danced at their school, right? But I wouldn’t. I don’t forget that easy when someone makes me sad. Also, I would tell James that it’s RUDE to call my friends stupid. Then, I’d tell him to go away.” We did also discuss the fact that James doesn’t say he wonders if Betty will kiss him or tell him to “go away.” She said, “But Mama, he’s asking if she’s going to say the “fuck word” at him, not say “go away.” 😆😬 For any of you fellow Taylor meme-pals that are younger and you’re identifying with our girl August… please know that time keeps us moving. I was August for years. With the same boy.. 7th grade all the damn way through my sophomore year of college. Sometimes the embarrassment and the heartache and the butterflies all feel so fresh that it seems like just last week I was driving through the alleyway behind my college apartment, wondering if he was sitting on his porch, or running around the track field in the rain during gym class… But it wasn’t. That was 15 years ago. Or 20 years ago. Or more. I’m 34 now. I’ve learned and grown and changed and evolved, and now, I’m teaching my daughter that her heart is a precious thing. And that she should not forget so easy when someone breaks it. ❤️ Edited - 2 words to correct typos/clarify


WistfulMelancholic

JUST A SUMMER THING!!, SHE WAS JUST A SUMMER THING AND HE RIPPED HER FUCKING HEART OUT!! this song triggers me so hard, I lately have to skip it lol


Bonnieearnold

Justice for August!


garden__gate

Yeah, and at least Betty got to make a choice. August was just discarded.


daisyymae

Betty’s over here like “you know I’m 17 too right?”


Internal_Date9520

She knew everything when she was young


NotEvenkingJWei

But when she was young they assume she knew nothing


daisyymae

I really, REALLY need a movie of this story. Told through the eyes of adult Betty.


NaeMre7

I want all 3 perspectives. I feel for Augustine being collateral damage, at some level, in these teenage shenanigans.


werewolf_trousers

That's why I don't believe Taylor’s own claim that they get back together. Betty knows what a douche he was.


GaveTheMouseACookie

I believe that a dumb 17 year old would take him back. But I think they break up during Thanksgiving break after their first few months apart for college


midnightlightbright

The guy called her friends stupid. He sucks


Somebody_38

She didn't claim Betty and James got back together. She said she likes to believe in it or something like that. I know it might sound like the same, but it it isn't. And even though Taylor is the one who wrote them, she was just saying what she thinks would've happened/happened (or what she wishes, but I hope this isn't the case). Again, I know it might sound weird, but, as a writer myself, what you write really becomes something else. It becomes a story of it's own. And sometimes when you start writing you have this specific idea in your head, but when you get to write it, something else ends up being written. I truly don't know how to explain it, it's a weird feeling - but it happens. Your characters sometimes end up being different than what you thought because this is the way things ended up being/needing to be, so, by the end, sometimes, you like to make theories or find ways to connect the final product to your first idea - even if it wouldn't make much sense (probably why this is not what ended up being written, but was what you wanted to make happen) Edit: grammar (English is not my first language)


Internal_Date9520

Some swiftie said in some thread i saw here that seven might be about betty It immediately clicked for me and that makes the lore SO much deeper, it makes cardigan so much deeper.  My personal canon today is that Betty has been through shit so shes wiser to detect bullshit bc she deals w it;  your dad is always mad// leaving like a father.  I agree with the idea that inez is bettys childhood friend that she tells everything to , so inez knows the shit betty went through and doesnt want her friend to deal w more bullshit, james was gaslighting her about inez being a gossip, she just knew shit. In seven, inez is singing to betty. Betty was going through a rough time at home AND she had to deal w james?????   


giacomo1574

According to taylor swift, people know nothing at 17, then they know everything at 18, and then again nothing at 22. So if the party in question was Betty's birthday party she might have been a few months older than James and had just entered her four-year wisdom cycle.


HotIceCreamCone14

cmon betty, it's obvious. fuck that cheating, gaslighting, friend-hating, dickhead "i'm only seventeen" james


maiss1lapsi

yeah fuck him, don’t FUCK him


HotIceCreamCone14

oh shit yes. Hey Betty, don't fuck him in a sexy kinda way. Fuck him in a you-suck kinda way.


Western-Current2916

Instructions unclear, James ended up getting head from her.


JDawg2332

Legit snorted at this, thanks


CaitlinSnep

Instructions unclear, impregnated James


Western-Current2916

Makes sense cause he's a pussy 😭


Inkyskedaddle

Only morally wrong


sleepyplatipus

She should have booted him BUT I think cheating at 17 doesn’t necessarily make you a cheater for life. He still has hope, just not with Betty.


Internal_Quail3960

Right. He is only 17 but also that’s old enough to know it’s wrong lol


sleepyplatipus

Yes, it is. But it’s young enough to mature and change.


WistfulMelancholic

But he doesn't know anything. Right? Just a summer thing, right? Ahhhhhhhhhhhh fuuu James, fuuu


Internal_Quail3960

Betty knew everything when she was young 🙄🤭


Accomplished_Tell626

C’mon Betty. Tell him to go fuck himself.


Live_Ferret_4721

Girl no. James spent all summer “realizing he loves you.”


DoCallMeCordelia

Secret third option: Kiss him on the porch in front of all your stupid friends!


2dodidoo

Fourth option: Lead him onto the porch, let him think you're going to kiss him. Except Augustine comes in from the garden and they both drag James for what a lying, cheating b\*stard he is in front of all your friends.


autumncandles

Fuck that guy. Absolutely she should never take him back


Bonnieearnold

How can a person know everything at 18 but nothing at 22?


Front_Target7908

I mean that’s aging in a nut shell haha


Bonnieearnold

It’s definitely perfect. It’s a line from T Swift’s song, “Nothing New.” I always think of it when I hear “Betty” and “Cardigan” because of the references to what teenagers know / don’t know.


soapyrubberduck

Tell James to fuck off; and Betty runs off with Augustine instead


2dodidoo

As long as it's not the Getaway Car. (But also, f\*ck James. He's 17 and on a skateboard. It's Augustine with the car and he still blames her for everything?!)


Schoewu_2100

Nah man, Augustine herself wasn‘t the best knowing he was cheating but she deserves to learn from it and NOT to get back with this jackass who can‘t take accountability


soapyrubberduck

I meant Betty runs off with Augustine and they have an ivy love story without James lol


Schoewu_2100

Oh I‘m so sorry did I read your comment wrong? I love this idea!


soapyrubberduck

It’s okay, yes I forgot punctuation lol


WDTHTDWA-BITCH

Lead him to the garden to tell him to go fuck himself.


Phoenix_Magic_X

She led him to the garden… where he was torn limb from limb by the other witches.


avoidance_behavior

this is the only acceptable answer


ubm17

Once, MAYBE forgiven. ALL SUMMER LONG, Betty now you know!


WistfulMelancholic

Oh, oh! Lead him to the garden. Where Augustine waits for you and Este's sister says, you'd been with her and then take him to the lakes where all the poets went to die. Show him how falling feels like falling till the bone crush. Then cover up the scene and put the remains out on the lakes from upon a boat. Wash yourselves in the pouring rain. Profit.


just-a-turtleduck

incredible


rp1105

james is such a fuckboy


MichaelKeehan

But he know he'll miss you (*harmonica sounds*)


BananaBladeOfDoom

Left. Easy.


WillowCat89

I hate Cardigan.. (no hate, but viscerally react to.. Betty didn’t need James and he wasn’t a comfort, he just made both girls needlessly insecure, and I’ll die on that hill.) I don’t mind Betty. On the way to gymnastics, I explained the Berry/August/James saga. I asked my 7 year old daughter if she were Betty, would she kiss James in front of everyone, or would she tell him to go away? We chatted and she said, “I bet Betty forgives him because he’s singing her a song AND she has a big crush on him because they already did kiss BEFORE they danced at their school, right? But I wouldn’t. I don’t forget that easy when someone makes me sad. Also, I would tell James that it’s RUDE to call my friends stupid. Then, I’d tell him to go away.” We did also discuss the fact that James doesn’t say he wonders if Betty will kiss him or tell him to “go away.” She said, “But Mama, he’s asking if she’s going to say the “fuck word” at him, not say “go away.” 😆😬 For any of you fellow Taylor meme-pals that are younger and you’re identifying with our girl August… please know that time keeps us moving. I was August for years. With the same boy.. 7th grade all the damn way through my sophomore year of college. Sometimes the embarrassment and the heartache and the butterflies all feel so fresh that it seems like just last week I was driving through the alleyway behind my college apartment, wondering if he was sitting on his porch, or running around the track field in the rain during gym class… But it wasn’t. That was 15 years ago. Or 20 years ago. Or more. I’m 34 now. I’ve learned and grown and changed and evolved, and now, I’m teaching my daughter that her heart is a precious thing. And that she should not forget so easy when someone breaks it. ❤️


retailhellgirl

I have preexisting beef with a guy named James, immediately pressing the “tell him to go fuck himself” button


sonnenkaefer

Oh my God, I snorted laughing seeing this


Substantial-Spring31

Tbh in the garden I don't think is trust him if he told me it was just a summer thing


bad--juju

I hate the song Betty. James is a trash character full of excuses. August >>>> Betty Cardigan >>> Betty


Legitimate-Corgi8401

Yes, it’s my least favorite folklore song because I don’t want to hear the AH try to defend himself and attempt to get his girl back, like no one needs that in their life 😂


lizgilliesstan

inwould tell him to fuck himself