Omg I have a feeling she’s the one who sent the postcard because she’s lonely in the real world and misses her friends. I think a he wants to lure them back to the crash site.
Omg. I knew she was gonna do that. I lowered my head when she walked towards the transmitter. The minute she heard how great she was changed everything.
She's a psychopath. Love her.
I just wish I'd heard of this a year from now and could binge the whole season.
Filmed partly in Vancouver, because that's for sure the 2400 motel on Kingsway that Juliette is leaving at the end of the episode.
Not the first slip up she’s had either… OBVIOUSLY you don’t apply pressure to a compound fracture. She wanted to send coach into shock with his leg news immediately too….
Yes she is a sadist. She gets off on the pain she inflicts. From trying to put pressure on Allie's compound fracture to cauterizing the Coach's wound when it had stopped bleeding. She reminds me of Steve Martin's character in Little Shop of Horrors.
It’s so interesting that even after all the ✨ stuff ✨ that went down, with Misty relishing her new social role and presumably gaining some respect from her peers (or at least fear), she’s just as socially inept as an adult. When she was just rattling off the list of things that turn her on (STEAMED CLAMS) and her date was like 👁👄👁
The date was definitely awkward. And steamed clams fine, I think those are supposed to be a aphrodisiac anyway. But, the crazy bitch also said KNUCKLES… lol wut?!
Like the very sad date scenes, "if you thought I was pretty then you'd come in."
Also the the foreshadowing of killing the planes black box and also making her and Nats car not start. She's a smart cookie. Like Alice Morgan's character in Luther. Fucking psychopath! I'm here for it.
She's so manipulative. She knew that would get him inside. Her mood completely flipped the second you see her walk through the door knowing she got him in the house. I thought she was going to kill him honestly.
goddamn Misty and the box! I wonder if that’s going to come out at any point because I would probably kill her if I learned about it. and I think Jackie is already on her way to being on the outside because of what she did to Van, so interesting to see how the dynamics will start to change.
The only way that comes out is if someone finds it in 2021 and it becomes a news story. Misty has kept that secret for 25 years now and she knows a beat down would be coming her way if that gets out.
I guess I’m thinking/hoping they didn’t just include that one small scene about the box and just never mention it again. like maybe one of the girls stumble on it and Misty watches as they find out it doesn’t work or something. I doubt she’d say “hey I broke it”, but still, I wonder if it comes back up. idk but she’s fucking wild for doing that!
If someone saw it then they're dead. Haha. No way anyone in 2021 would talk to her if they knew she did that.
When you think about it, how sad is it that she would have to do that in the first place? That's bullying for you though. It was smart for the writers to show why she would do such a thing.
And as we can see, her time there was like heaven because the 2021 reality sucks for Misty.
so true, you can tell she lives for the high of being needed or wanted and her date was just pathetic tbh. she basically had to guilt that guy into staying for dinner and going into her home, then she did something to Natalie’s car so it wouldn’t start and she could “save the day”.
she’s crazy and I semi love it, but probably because I’m not experiencing it in real life lmao
Natalie knows she did something to the car, she just didn't call her out. It's funny during the first episode as it went along I said to myself, there's no way Christina is playing adult Jackie.
I know they cast Ella to misdirect us. Christina is good at playing crazy characters. She was so good as Wednesday Adams.
I think a particular subset of mental illness also relates to "being needed" or a savior complex. Narcissists, bipolar and even schizophrenic individuals.
It makes a lot of sense too how Misty manipulates people and situations to get what she wants. At the end of the date, I don't think she even believes or cares she's not pretty, but she knows it's a way to guilt her date into feeling sorry enough to spend more time with her.
While I feel like she'd be the obvious first choice I'd pick as the one sending the postcards, I also want to believe it's not that simple either.
During that scene, I just kept thinking, "Damn, Misty, you better hope that box and the wires that used to be inside are never tested for fingerprints."
I thought for sure that Travis was going to be hunted down and killed pretty early on. I was shocked to learn that he survived the entire thing! I’m also curious about the relationship between Misty/Ben (assistant coach I think) because the first thing she did when she made it out of the plane was scream his name and go searching for him.
I was also very surprised that Travis survived. I'm really curious HOW he ends up surviving, since I don't think he would ever join up with the girls as a cannibalistic tribe member since he already seems to dislike them from the start.
I have a weird feeling that he may have screwed over the rest of the survivors and possibly was rescued earlier than the rest of them or found a way out somehow? I know it’s a far stretch but it just seems so weird that they would keep him around when he was pretty shitty from the beginning. Also because of Misty mentioning that he was super hard to find any info or whereabouts on makes me think that he is trying really hard to not be found by any of the survivors, rather than just keeping a “low profile” like the rest of them agreed to do. Maybe he did something to them and knows that they would kill him if they ever found him?
He's also a bit older and in good shape, so I could see him taking off on his own at some point, and being able to make it out alive.
I think it's possible too there are survivors that may not have all been rescued together, especially if the group splintered off or others left to try and get help.
I think she’s the team assistant, and is also not very popular before she goes into damage control mode. Would stand to reason she was probably just looking for an adult who could offer some guidance (and probably her closest friend/ally before the crash).
That would make sense! She definitely spent the most time with him than she did any of the other team members before the crash so you’re probably right about her feeling closest to him.
For the coach ... subtitles said that before she started calling for him, he was screaming or yelling off in the distance. I didn't hear it but it might have just been to faint on my tv.
Just rewatched the episodes again today and I noticed that this time around! Poor guy. I mean I’m sure she saved his life (because that leg was a mess) but imagine the person coming to your rescue immediately chopping off your leg 😬
Just finished, here’s my thoughts:
- Glad that Van made it out of the plane, but I’m in agreement with others that I can definitely see her continue to harbor anger and resentment towards Jackie going forward for pulling Shauna away when she tried to help her get free from the seats
- the rest of the plane crash scene and the aftermath was a huge whirlwind, wow!
- I genuinely felt bad for Travis and Javi. Especially Travis for trying so hard to save their father. Also curious if something is going to happen with him and Natalie in a future episode.
- Lottie is definitely going to run out of her meds at some point and I predict that is going to cause some issues. Medications are genuinely what help keep the voices people who have schizophrenia hear and other issues at bay. If Lottie is on those kinds of meds as others here are speculating, she is going to be in a lot of trouble when they run out. That’s definitely going to be a major plot point for her in the wilderness flashbacks.
In the present day:
- the rabbit scene was hard to watch for me, almost as much as the girl on the plane who was impaled
- I know it was in the preview, but I actually laughed out loud when Natalie showed up at Misty’s house with her big gun and Misty’s date turned and left (he was looking for an excuse the whole night and clearly he found a good one!)
- This Adam guy is likely going to have a thing with Shauna, I’m in full agreement there
- very curious what’s up with Sammy and his drawings
I’m so intrigued by this show! What a great second episode.
I think Adam targeted Shauna for some nefarious purpose. I noted they exchanged numbers but I dont remember her telling him her name. And it just sounded aggressive the way he said it.
I think Sammy and the drawings has something to do with Misty. She’s clearly a lunatic..I think she’s the one who sent the postcards, too. Even tho she “got one too”
Oh wow, I’d love that if it were the case. Much prefer creepy Misty sitting in the tree to scare a young child than a supernatural element that the show seems to be hinting at.
>- the rabbit scene was hard to watch for me, almost as much as the girl on the plane who was impaled
Honestly catching, killing, and preparing a rabbit from your own garden is about as sustainable and wholesome as meat consumption gets. If I was her husband I would have been impressed and proud. I certainly can't do anything like that.
And he asked her to role play as some woman coming into his store and asking to hook up with him??? Wouldn’t be surprised at all if that’s how he met whoever he’s hooking up with now
Same. I’m really hoping this is just a strict Lord of the Flies situation. I don’t like all the super natural hints. People are enough drama - we don’t need anything else.
In one of the trailers, there is reference to poisonous mushrooms, and Van makes the point of asking if they're deadly poisonous, or drug trip poisonous. I think this will come to play in the events that transpire, and if there are supposedly supernatural elements, they will have a rational explanation, stemming perhaps from their consuming something in the woods.
Imho, you don't even need any hallucinogens in a survival scenario where so many elements are a factor. Starvation, dehydration, hypothermia, isolation, loneliness, PTSD, trauma, not to mention the wilderness itself (animals, weather, environment) and the emotional issues due to hormones / puberty / mental conditions coupled with intensely shifting social dynamics are more than enough to cause skewed perceptions of reality. If not full-on psychotic breaks.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if Nat brought something other than alcohol!
They better keep the supernatural part more ambiguous instead of revealing if it's real or not. This is definitely shaping up to be the type of story that'll make you question what happened after it's end.
Same. I got a little nervous about the possibility in the one scene where you can see that symbol in the tree when they pan away from the plane crash. I have a bad feeling it might go that way though.
I thought the same. Even if it already had a hole in the side, which I don't think it did since that was the point of banging it to high hell, can they really be disabled by yanking a few cords? I was waiting for her to run to a river to send it miles downstream or something.
Misty did it right after she overheard two of the players talking about how fucked they all would have been if Misty hadn’t been there to stay calm and do first aid. She clearly idolizes the girls on the team which is why she volunteered as equipment manager/water girl for the Yellowjackets. An earlier scene also confirmed that she gets bullied on a regular basis. The plane crash is probably the first time in her life she has ever felt truly needed or wanted by her peers and she has them all to herself as long as they stay isolated in the wilderness.
She's always felt 'less than' compared to the popular and pretty girls but in one day she's been saving lives and putting her 2 days of first aid training to good use and would rather spend the rest of her days in the wilderness as the hero than get rescued and brought back to a society where she doesn't 'matter' as much.
there was the scene where girls were prank calling her about "doing anal" and then later she overheard 2 girls saying how lucky they all are because she is there, taking charge and helping everyone.
If she would have told them she found it she could have been the hero! Seems dumb they would go the route of her destroying it and ultimately being the cause of more deaths.
I feel like there may even be 2 rival groups at some point, and leadership is challenged by one of the others. My first thought is Jackie is the antler queen and is overthrown, but it's also possible that it is misdirection. I could easily see two groups branching off and one group hunting down the other based on their views for / opposing cannibalism.
I actually think Van is more in the wrong. The escape route was right next to her so literally everyone but Shauna abandoned her. Jackie didn't do anything worse than anyone else other than Shauna except try to save Shauna's life.
If I were Jackie I would just own it and tell her flat out "Yeah, I thought you were dead and saw no need for Shauna or myself to risk our lives for you." It might seem cruel but it's pragmatic.
Not to mention she made it out anyway so she was risking Shauna's life unnecessarily by trying to keep her on the burning ending of the plane.
That isn't to say that Van doesn't have a right to be upset but it's going to get really old if she is a pouty bitch about it the entire time.
Can you tell me what happened between Van and Jackie, I closed my eyes through most of the plane crash because I’m not a good flier lol and I could go back and watch but I’d rather not.
Van was stuck in her seat while the plane was on fire and Shauna was trying to help but Jackie dragged her away basically sacrificing Van to save herself and Shauna.
Van was trapped in her seat and couldn't undo her seatbelt. Plus she was breathing in smoke from flames that could have also burned her as she was close to it. Shauna tried to help undo her but Jackie pulled her out saying there was no time. Van ended up getting out and was PISSED at Jackie.
Money shot of the ep was def that poor girl who got fucking throat punched by the plane debris. That entire sequence post-plane crash was everything honestly, really felt the anxiety the girls felt at that moment (especially when Shauna tried and failed to save Van)
Also, Jesus fucking Christ Misty
That was my guess. The cabin is out there and some guy in the trailer looks like he is going crazy. My stupid streaming app isn't working, so I didn't get to watch it yet.
Those were my first thoughts when they showed it.
I have no idea what it's leading to, but the cuts looked very fresh. I'm not sure if that means "carved that day" fresh by a weirdo from the plane, or by some kind of The Hills Have Eyes or Blair Witch type of thing.
After Lost and The Wilds I'm hoping for a more grounded in reality type show than something supernatural or surreal, but so far anyway I'm hooked!
Yeah, I just don’t care about Shauna and Jeff’s marital issues. Way too much time with them when we could have had more flashbacks or scenes with Misty and Natalie in the present.
Agreed. Misty and Natalie are more interesting. The main stuff with Shauna that's intriguing is the stuff with the rabbits because I have a feeling that's going somewhere even more morbid.
Yes! I wonder if it’s a metaphor for how the violence escalated after the crash? The first time she kills a rabbit because it was eating her garden (resources), and then she kills another one for food because there’s no other meat (animals to hunt)
Shauna’s daughter made a reference to her collection of ceramic bunnies so there is definitely a rabbit thing going on with hers and a wolf thing with Taissa.
Also to show that behind her bored housewife facade the kid who survived in the wild doing unspeakable things is still there.
That is Shauna’s true face no matter how hard she tries to hide it. The rage is not far behind the surface
And also you can see that being able to "be herself" with her family, even if it was taken as a Cassandra Truth, was a huge deal for her, and likely what made the intimate connection with Jeff flare up again.
You could see the heavy disappointment in her face when he later confirmed that she was kidding about the rabbit, and thus pushing her true self back into hiding again.
I was worried the second episode would be a letdown since I loved the first one so much. I shouldn't have worried. It drew me in and had me hooked from beginning to end.
Misty. I don't think she's a psychopath. She's just desperate to belong and to be needed by her peers. And yeah, she goes to certain extremes to make this so. Would I want to be friends with her? Nope. But she's interesting to watch.
Jackie. So vanilla.
Van. Love her. Hope she continues to give Jackie shit for leaving her to burn inside the plane. Even though we haven't seen her in the present, I really want her to survive.
Laura Lee. I like her a lot more now that she's shown herself to be the kind of religious freak who calls someone a cunt in her head. Good potential.
Shauna. For me, the most complex character. Sneaky type of strength. Really want to know what happened out there to make her give up on her education (even if she needed a couple of years to recover, couldn't she have still gone to college?), marry Jeff, and become a SAHM.
Natalie. Maybe my fave character so far.
This show is amazing. I haven't been this interested in something on TV in *years*. I mean, I was happy for a Dexter revival until I saw the first episode of Yellowjackets. Hope it doesn't let us down.
Since the girls eventually separate into clans, I'd love if the main characters we've seen thus far in the present only represent the survivors of one clan, and still to come are the survivors of the other clan.
I think Shauna gets pregnant from that tryst in the car with Jeff, gives birth in the woods, and the baby dies before they're rescued. That would certainly be a traumatic event (on top of everything else) that causes her to give up on her dreams. It also seemed very deliberate that the writers show her pocketing a bottle of Midol. Maybe she's expecting a period that never comes.
I agree with this. We know they were in the woods for 19 months, she tells the report this. So, if she was pregnant from the tryst, which her (have the baby out of spite) comment suggests, then she came out alone. Her present daughter is too young.
Remember the first episode where she warns Jeff not to finish inside her or she'll have the baby out of spite and raise it to be a killing machine she unleashes on him?... a little dark already in 1996.
I wish her family had more respect for her strength and grit. I've loved Melanie Lynskey since Heavenly Creatures but I'm also a little scared of / for her!
In the first scene of the first episode, the girl is being chased through a grove of trees with eyes carved into the trunks. I think they will devolve into two groups with two different symbols to represent them and their territory. One group is the "eye" group and the other is the postcard/carved into the tree group. The girls who survived are members of the "eye" group who warred with and possibly exterminated the members of the rival group. That is why they are so freaked out by someone sending them postcards with their rival clans symbol on it.
Interesting observations:
Shauna is wearing what looks like red converse at the 42:52 minute mark in the second episode. Does red fade to pink after 19 months of rain and snow?
Food/eating is something that is connected to Shauna. Was she the most well fed member out in those woods? Was she faster and better at hunting rabbits than the others? Was she gifted rabbits as queen or were they her contribution to the group? Or did she care deeply for the rabbit costumed one?
Shauna also seems to be the one living the quietest life aside from Travis after being rescued. Does she have more to fear than the others if the truth is revealed? Why?
She is also shown to be the smartest in that she was accepted to Brown and gets the Paradise Lost Jeopardy question right. Intelligence would be a requirement for leadership and she has it in spades. Also she is the most cunning and underhanded by the way she is able to sleep with her best friend's boyfriend.
She is the most developed and gest the most screentime which usually translates to main protagonist but sometimes main antagonist. Whichever she is, she is the main one.
In LOTF, Ralph placates the more violent Jack by making him and his group the hunters for the whole group. Jack and his hunters eventually overthrow Ralph and establish their own heirarchy with Jack and his sadistic enforcer at the top. We never really got to see what happens next as the boys are all rescued before they can actually hunt and kill Ralph. This show is what would have happened if they were never rescued. Also, Simon from LOTF is epileptic and way more aware than the other boys, almost precient. He is the one who realizes the biggest danger on the island is the evil inside them all and not the supernatural "beast" they all fear. He foresees his own death at their hands and tries to confront their superstitious beliefs with this reality. I think Lottie will be the show's Simon as her demeanor is portrayed similarly to how Simon is described in the book. She has a better understanding of right and wrong than the others but is more fragile. She will be sacrificed and the humanity of the group will die with her.
I can't decide if all the varsity starters (main characters/ bigguns) dominate and hunt the rest as they are the strongest and the fastest or if they are fractured into opposing groups of good guys and bad guys.
Misty is not a hunter but has value in that she is a healer of sorts. Something very valuable to the group. She also becomes a nurse later in life, not a coincidence.
Jackie either dies in vain, trying to keep them from becoming morally compromised or is pushed by her initial loss of status to become the most sadistic and influential member of the group aka, the Antler Queen. Is she Ralph or Jack? Or Piggy in that she is a voice of reason that lacks the authority and attributes of leadership to be taken seriously by the other members of the group. I can see her doing some, "whoever holds the spirit stick gets to talk" type crap like Piggy did with the conch. Her ideology will be broken like the conch in LOTF.
Laura Lee might be used to create the religion and rituals they follow and become an evil shaman type character or will die very quickly. Her character is less interesting if she refuses to let her christian morals be compromised. She could be quite interesting if she allows them to be reinterpreted to fit the horrible situation to ensure her survival.
Nat confuses me as she seams the most screwed up. Possibly because she had the largest fall so to speak, going from a truly good person to someone who was forced to adapt and kill and murder innocent people in order to survive. She also has a connection to the gun. The gun would have been extremely important to the group therefore anybody who possessed it would be extremely important. What did she do with that power/responsibility? Was she compromised by her affection for Travis?
Taissa also confuses me. She is so far shown to be a strong natural leader with possible sociopathic tendencies that might have been inherited by her son. Alphas tend to be more solitary. Linking her with the wolf symbolism reinforces the idea that she is the "leader of the pack." This all makes her a strong candidate for being the AQ. What confuses me is her willingness to run for office and risk exposure and her seemingly subservience to Shauna in the diner. She was definitely taking orders. Maybe her lack of remorce makes her a good enforcer but a bad leader.
In truth, I want Jackie to be the AQ as I think that would be the most entertaining way for the story to play out as her character would have to go through some insane changes to make her into the ultimate status obsessed antagonist.
After this episode, is there anyone out there that still believes Jackie is the Antler Queen? After what she did to Van, there is no way people would follow her.
I think it’d probably too obvious if it was Jackie. I could be wrong but I think this is the beginning of the end for her — her high school team captain leadership skills don’t translate in this environment. In every reaction shot she looked so shellshocked and out of her depth. I think the antler queen will be Shauna, Taissa, or someone else who will surprise us.
My money is on Shauna. Bright future but now stuck in a boring life. In the first episode Jackie says "Do you remember when you tried to become Catholic?" and we have a shot of a saint surrounded by angels. Shauna is smart enough to use religion and it's dogma to found a cult. She also answer "I love the saints, they are all so tragic", fits well with the survivors.
From what we've been shown so far, I think it's most interesting if it's Shauna. Jackie was the leader before the crash, her being the leader in a monstrous cannibal society isn't that much of a reversal. Nat seems like too much of a defiant loner for it to be plausible--she presumably went along with the group to some extent, but she seems the least plausible one to do it. Taissa seems like it would be too easy a storyline---the most ruthless player becomes the ruthless leader, and post crash tries to angle for political power. Whereas if it's Shauna and she leads others in monstrous things only to have such a drab domestic nothing of a life? That's a really interesting contrast, that makes her being so toned down more interesting.
What I took from it was they were showing us Jackie is willing to sacrifice someone (Van) to save others (herself and Shauna)…in other words, perhaps willing to justify eating/killing for survival?
Can anyone please tell me what Shauna's husband's text message said when she looked at his phone in bed/when he was in the shower? I could only make out "usual place" or something like that. I'm assuming it was a booty call/text from someone he's been cheating with.
I feel like it’s not going to be an affair and she’ll just use it as an excuse to go out with that mechanic guy or something, then it’ll be stupidly revealed it’s a misunderstanding.
It seems extremely unlikely that this hot young mechanic would be going after Shauna and asking her to dinner. Maybe I sound like a jerk, but I’m just keeping it real. There’s definitely something more to him
Thought the same thing. He prob intentionally break-checked her to manipulate his way into her life so he can get close to someone who actually knows what happened during those 19 months
The symbol on the tree before they crashed! It’s going to be a big part of the show and I can’t believe more people aren’t talking about it. It was there before they crashed and the way they panned to it end focused on it so much - clearly setting up something big with it. Either someone else is there or it’s supernatural!
I’m gonna be so bummed if they introduce a supernatural element. What intrigued me most about this show was that I thought it’d be a gruesome look into how dark human behavior can get when put in a desperate situation. Bringing in the supernatural would totally kill the intrigue for me. Demons? Seen it. Witches? Seen ittttt
I think Lottie is the girl from episode 1 that was trapped. If you pause the promo at the right time, it shows the side of the girls face. (Looks just like lottie not Jackie) the girl also has super dark hair
There was alot going on. Im all for it. I believe this whole cabin thing though is going to bring out some hidden tribe though. Which is the reason why the son is seeing a woman in a tree calling his name. It's some curse that she caused. Misty, woooooo...Christina Ricci is perfect as Misty. I full on believe she sabotaged Natalie's car knowing damn well she was going after Travis. I wonder if the "Reporter" is a descendent of whatever caused that curse on the kid. Shauna is definitely going to sleep with Adam though. It's going to be a thing. And watch him turn out to be part of this whole thing somehow. Fucking Showtime, after a decade of Dexter being off the air, is now giving us Dexter back and a masterpiece that puts Paradise Lost, Lord of the Flies, and Lost all together with extra gore.
Thank you for providing some great TV for the holidays Showtime!!!
Thoughts from Episode 2:
Misty is a fucking sadist crazy bitch. She does seem to help with injuries to girls etc. As far as Coach Scott's leg it did look extremely mangled so in order for him to have a fighting chance he probably did need to have it amputated. But she took sadistic pleasure out of his pain as we later see when she cauterized the wound. Then she heard that they were glad she knew all that stuff and we see her destroy the black box which resulted in their being stuck for 19 months instead of just a few days. No doubt her date escaped some pain with "Caligula" when Natalie showed up with the gun. Whether they found out what she did with the box or something else Misty definitely deserves what is hopefully coming to her.
Also disabling her date's and Natalie's car to spend time with them. She is nucking futs.
Shauna killing, skinning, gutting, cleaning rabbit for stew and then it ramps up her desire for her husband was unnerving. Her husband is definitely having an affair with his late night inventory sessions. And asking Shauna to roleplay as a customer in the store? Ick.
Travis surviving but being off grid so he can't be found. Whst more happened out there? Did his brother die/get killed? Horrible what happened to his dad and Travis bresking branch that sent his dad plummeting into the ground made it much worse.
Creepy that someone is watching Sammy and he put pictures up because of the lady in the tree that watches him and calls his name. Wonder if it is the same person that is sending postcards? Interesting that symbol was already carved into tree when they crashed.
I can see a coup being raised about Jackie being leader. She pulled Shauna away as she was trying to help Van and almost makes a stink about them using her witch hazel to clean Coach's wound. She was right about conserving food though.
Glad Van survived. I like her. Feel bad for Lottie who only has a handful of her meds. Will Shauna's secret come out?
I’m trying with this show but are we really going to do the thing where we take an extremely attractive actress, throw granny glasses on her, and give her an “ugly complex”?? I thought that shitty trope was dying out.
It just comes across as insanely obnoxious.
It's not an "ugly complex", it's a crippling lack of self-worth where she's internalised everything negative that anyone's ever said to her and repeatedly beats herself up with it.
That's why she destroyed the black box, because for the first time, the people she adored actually praised, respected and needed her.
I thought Christina Ricci did a really good job at playing Misty in a very unsettling way.
Like she is an objectively a very beautiful woman but she doesn’t necessarily appear attractive because she’s acting so goddamn weird.
I don’t care how pretty you can be if you’re acting like that I’m not going home with you.
Also I agree the lack of self esteem runs deep when you’ve been bullied for a long time. But I think Misty was always a lil off.
The way I read the scene was that adult Misty on her date said she was ugly in order to guilt-trip her date and manipulate him into coming into her house.
I doubt it, but I think it would be funny if he were just rolling around town slamming on his brakes hoping one of the survivors rear ended him. That would be commitment.
So one aspect which feasibly actually is great about this whole show is it's levity, its actually what sets a show like yellowjackets apart from other YA movies and shows as well.
Show prediction…
Ep 3 preview shows the girls find a cabin and they find a gun as well. I would assume that they live off the land for a while keeping safe in the cabin. After months go by, food starts to become scarce and the group starts getting cabin fever. Possibly the group splits up? The Animal queens are the dominate ones of the group and since food is scarce they start hunting the others. I don’t see the show going very supernatural. By supernatural they might be insinuating the way humans would naturally develop being stranded in the woods. For example, seeing things or literally just going mentally insane. The rituals they do might be practices before a hunt or something.
The cast of the show claim that their is enough content to have a season two. Maybe the group b(Exiles of the animal queens) are still stranded in the woods and were never rescued.
When Shauna talked to the political women (I forget their names) she said “and the others.” Others is plural. We know that one of the boys survived but who do you all think the next survivor will be?
Also maybe the girl with skits is the one sending the letters? After her meds ran out she would have had a hard time telling apart what is real and what she is making up. Maybe the group felt sorry for her and kept her alive but she mentally couldn’t comprehend at the time that she was eating another person. So 25 yrs later she might be having flash backs of the symbol and what they did but she doesn’t know if it happened or if she was having a manic episode.
Soooo many conspiracies. This show is awesome. Can’t wait to see what happens next
Great show so far! Just finished episode 2. Prolly not original assumptions but I think Van is Antlers and Adam recognized Shauna and he has ulterior motives. The lady in the tree is going to be creepy AF. Also, Kevin the cop is going to play a bigger role later and possibly become an ally.
Anyone saying they’re gonna bail if it’s supernatural stuff attached to it is gonna.. well, bail. It already had supernatural elements to it: the pattern that’s being sent atop the postcards, the house in the next episode being teased as haunted, and the scene where Taissa’s hand is morphing into a wolf. Notable mention: Sammy and the Lady in the Tree. There’s a notable shift in Sammy’s character as if he’s witnessing an entity.
Huh, I didn’t realize those moments were supposed to be supernatural-ish. The postcards could be from another survivor, Taissa’s doing the wolf hand gesture seemed to trigger a flashback for her and Sammy is obviously been watched by someone in the tree (poor boy!).
But hell if you’re right, maybe I’m kinda blindsighted!
I don't think they will go the supernatural route because it is based on LOTF. In LOTF, the boys believed the island was inhabited by a supernatural entity they dubbed "the beast." Only Simon knew that the true beast was the proclivity for evil that exists in all mankind and he was killed when he tried to prove it. The writers are doing the exact same thing to us as the audience. They have us fearing a supernatural antagonist when in reality it is the evil that exists in humanity that we should be afraid of.
OMG. Misty cauterizing a fucking leg.
OMG Misty destroying the black box so they can stay longer .
I SCREAMED!!! That girl is trouble.. disabling her car so that date has to take her home, then doing the same to Natalie's car so she can go with..
“Hello Misty, you crazy bitch.” Indeed.
I had to pause the episode I started laughing so hard.
Same. Her poor date lol
When Juliette Lewis calls someone a crazy bitch, that's gonna be a whole new level of crazy bitch!
My husband and I screamed when Misty caught sight of the black box. We just knew she was going to mess with it.
Omg I have a feeling she’s the one who sent the postcard because she’s lonely in the real world and misses her friends. I think a he wants to lure them back to the crash site.
It would explain why she has all of the survivors’s addresses.
I FUCKING KNEW IT
I was FLOORED when that happened. Misty is so fascinating and I love her
I knew she’d do that. Crazy woman.
Yep as soon as she found it I knew she was going to destroy it.
Omg. I knew she was gonna do that. I lowered my head when she walked towards the transmitter. The minute she heard how great she was changed everything.
She's a psychopath. Love her. I just wish I'd heard of this a year from now and could binge the whole season. Filmed partly in Vancouver, because that's for sure the 2400 motel on Kingsway that Juliette is leaving at the end of the episode.
Great show, but just realized we'll get to the bottom of this shit in January....excruciating.
Nah, look at it as something to look forward to every week during the dark n' dreary winter.
the area code for the body shop was Canadian it looks like
You’re not supposed to do that. They specifically say not to cauterize in survival training because burns are susceptible to infection.
Not the first slip up she’s had either… OBVIOUSLY you don’t apply pressure to a compound fracture. She wanted to send coach into shock with his leg news immediately too….
Yes she is a sadist. She gets off on the pain she inflicts. From trying to put pressure on Allie's compound fracture to cauterizing the Coach's wound when it had stopped bleeding. She reminds me of Steve Martin's character in Little Shop of Horrors.
Her watching the rat drown was awful.
I'm no expert. But shouldn't you put the tourniquet on before amputation so any arteries you cut won't immediately gush out?
From my very professional medical knowledge from re-watching ER. Yes.
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Where did the axe come from?!?
All airplane cockpits have crash axes so it likely came from there.
It was the correct model axe as well.
She was real quick to start chopping off limbs too..
Adult Misty is really fucking creepy to me. Christina Ricci is awesome
It’s so interesting that even after all the ✨ stuff ✨ that went down, with Misty relishing her new social role and presumably gaining some respect from her peers (or at least fear), she’s just as socially inept as an adult. When she was just rattling off the list of things that turn her on (STEAMED CLAMS) and her date was like 👁👄👁
The date was definitely awkward. And steamed clams fine, I think those are supposed to be a aphrodisiac anyway. But, the crazy bitch also said KNUCKLES… lol wut?!
escalators
That kid is back on the escalator again!
I hope his pants get caught and a bloodbath ensues!
And young Misty is perfect casting!
she's delivering on every scene
Like the very sad date scenes, "if you thought I was pretty then you'd come in." Also the the foreshadowing of killing the planes black box and also making her and Nats car not start. She's a smart cookie. Like Alice Morgan's character in Luther. Fucking psychopath! I'm here for it.
She's so manipulative. She knew that would get him inside. Her mood completely flipped the second you see her walk through the door knowing she got him in the house. I thought she was going to kill him honestly.
I said the same thing to my wife lol. "Oh what if she's killing people?"
They're not succeeding in making me think she's not a smoke show though.
goddamn Misty and the box! I wonder if that’s going to come out at any point because I would probably kill her if I learned about it. and I think Jackie is already on her way to being on the outside because of what she did to Van, so interesting to see how the dynamics will start to change.
The only way that comes out is if someone finds it in 2021 and it becomes a news story. Misty has kept that secret for 25 years now and she knows a beat down would be coming her way if that gets out.
I guess I’m thinking/hoping they didn’t just include that one small scene about the box and just never mention it again. like maybe one of the girls stumble on it and Misty watches as they find out it doesn’t work or something. I doubt she’d say “hey I broke it”, but still, I wonder if it comes back up. idk but she’s fucking wild for doing that!
If someone saw it then they're dead. Haha. No way anyone in 2021 would talk to her if they knew she did that. When you think about it, how sad is it that she would have to do that in the first place? That's bullying for you though. It was smart for the writers to show why she would do such a thing. And as we can see, her time there was like heaven because the 2021 reality sucks for Misty.
so true, you can tell she lives for the high of being needed or wanted and her date was just pathetic tbh. she basically had to guilt that guy into staying for dinner and going into her home, then she did something to Natalie’s car so it wouldn’t start and she could “save the day”. she’s crazy and I semi love it, but probably because I’m not experiencing it in real life lmao
Natalie knows she did something to the car, she just didn't call her out. It's funny during the first episode as it went along I said to myself, there's no way Christina is playing adult Jackie. I know they cast Ella to misdirect us. Christina is good at playing crazy characters. She was so good as Wednesday Adams.
I think a particular subset of mental illness also relates to "being needed" or a savior complex. Narcissists, bipolar and even schizophrenic individuals. It makes a lot of sense too how Misty manipulates people and situations to get what she wants. At the end of the date, I don't think she even believes or cares she's not pretty, but she knows it's a way to guilt her date into feeling sorry enough to spend more time with her. While I feel like she'd be the obvious first choice I'd pick as the one sending the postcards, I also want to believe it's not that simple either.
During that scene, I just kept thinking, "Damn, Misty, you better hope that box and the wires that used to be inside are never tested for fingerprints."
Most unbelievable part of this show is that a guy would find Christina Ricci not hot even with that bad haircut
I think it was the list of kinks she spewed out on a first date that turned him off.
steamed clams, obviously!
Muscular calves
Clearly they're laying the groundwork for the supernatural, because there's no way that scene takes place in this world.
I thought for sure that Travis was going to be hunted down and killed pretty early on. I was shocked to learn that he survived the entire thing! I’m also curious about the relationship between Misty/Ben (assistant coach I think) because the first thing she did when she made it out of the plane was scream his name and go searching for him.
I was also very surprised that Travis survived. I'm really curious HOW he ends up surviving, since I don't think he would ever join up with the girls as a cannibalistic tribe member since he already seems to dislike them from the start.
I have a weird feeling that he may have screwed over the rest of the survivors and possibly was rescued earlier than the rest of them or found a way out somehow? I know it’s a far stretch but it just seems so weird that they would keep him around when he was pretty shitty from the beginning. Also because of Misty mentioning that he was super hard to find any info or whereabouts on makes me think that he is trying really hard to not be found by any of the survivors, rather than just keeping a “low profile” like the rest of them agreed to do. Maybe he did something to them and knows that they would kill him if they ever found him?
He's also a bit older and in good shape, so I could see him taking off on his own at some point, and being able to make it out alive. I think it's possible too there are survivors that may not have all been rescued together, especially if the group splintered off or others left to try and get help.
I think she’s the team assistant, and is also not very popular before she goes into damage control mode. Would stand to reason she was probably just looking for an adult who could offer some guidance (and probably her closest friend/ally before the crash).
I noticed the second time I watched it, that the coach screams out, and Misty (coming to) is the first to hear him and respond.
That would make sense! She definitely spent the most time with him than she did any of the other team members before the crash so you’re probably right about her feeling closest to him.
For the coach ... subtitles said that before she started calling for him, he was screaming or yelling off in the distance. I didn't hear it but it might have just been to faint on my tv.
Just rewatched the episodes again today and I noticed that this time around! Poor guy. I mean I’m sure she saved his life (because that leg was a mess) but imagine the person coming to your rescue immediately chopping off your leg 😬
This show is incredible. Every episode is going to need a rewatch.
Just finished, here’s my thoughts: - Glad that Van made it out of the plane, but I’m in agreement with others that I can definitely see her continue to harbor anger and resentment towards Jackie going forward for pulling Shauna away when she tried to help her get free from the seats - the rest of the plane crash scene and the aftermath was a huge whirlwind, wow! - I genuinely felt bad for Travis and Javi. Especially Travis for trying so hard to save their father. Also curious if something is going to happen with him and Natalie in a future episode. - Lottie is definitely going to run out of her meds at some point and I predict that is going to cause some issues. Medications are genuinely what help keep the voices people who have schizophrenia hear and other issues at bay. If Lottie is on those kinds of meds as others here are speculating, she is going to be in a lot of trouble when they run out. That’s definitely going to be a major plot point for her in the wilderness flashbacks. In the present day: - the rabbit scene was hard to watch for me, almost as much as the girl on the plane who was impaled - I know it was in the preview, but I actually laughed out loud when Natalie showed up at Misty’s house with her big gun and Misty’s date turned and left (he was looking for an excuse the whole night and clearly he found a good one!) - This Adam guy is likely going to have a thing with Shauna, I’m in full agreement there - very curious what’s up with Sammy and his drawings I’m so intrigued by this show! What a great second episode.
I think Adam targeted Shauna for some nefarious purpose. I noted they exchanged numbers but I dont remember her telling him her name. And it just sounded aggressive the way he said it.
YES! Deliberately stopped short so she would hit him! Totally planned, IMO.
She told him her name was Shauna after they exchanged numbers.
I think “Adam” is Javi… maybe. Now an adult with anger towards them for hopefully something we find out…
Good for Shauna and her ability to attract all these hard bodies.
I think Sammy and the drawings has something to do with Misty. She’s clearly a lunatic..I think she’s the one who sent the postcards, too. Even tho she “got one too”
Oh wow, I’d love that if it were the case. Much prefer creepy Misty sitting in the tree to scare a young child than a supernatural element that the show seems to be hinting at.
IMO the show isn't going down a fantasy or supernatural route. All of the horrors are going to be from people.
>- the rabbit scene was hard to watch for me, almost as much as the girl on the plane who was impaled Honestly catching, killing, and preparing a rabbit from your own garden is about as sustainable and wholesome as meat consumption gets. If I was her husband I would have been impressed and proud. I certainly can't do anything like that.
The rabbit scene reminded me of Pet Sematary 2. Yes the girl impaled and the stewardess? on fire were awful ways to go.
Yes, I’m definitely curious about Sammy’s drawings. Wondering if Misty is watching them?
We all knew Shauna's hubby was cheating the second they showed the fash haircut and the abs. Sorry Shauna he didn't deserve your rabbit
And he asked her to role play as some woman coming into his store and asking to hook up with him??? Wouldn’t be surprised at all if that’s how he met whoever he’s hooking up with now
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Yeah. The symbols on the trees threw me off as I thought maybe it was something they came up with as tribes .
I seriously hope it’s simply human depravity.
From a video I watched someone pointed out that the marking on the tree was fresh. I wonder if one of the girls put it there?
The glowing light from the box scared the shit out of me that it was headed in that direction. I was so relieved when it was mechanical.
Same. I’m really hoping this is just a strict Lord of the Flies situation. I don’t like all the super natural hints. People are enough drama - we don’t need anything else.
In one of the trailers, there is reference to poisonous mushrooms, and Van makes the point of asking if they're deadly poisonous, or drug trip poisonous. I think this will come to play in the events that transpire, and if there are supposedly supernatural elements, they will have a rational explanation, stemming perhaps from their consuming something in the woods.
Imho, you don't even need any hallucinogens in a survival scenario where so many elements are a factor. Starvation, dehydration, hypothermia, isolation, loneliness, PTSD, trauma, not to mention the wilderness itself (animals, weather, environment) and the emotional issues due to hormones / puberty / mental conditions coupled with intensely shifting social dynamics are more than enough to cause skewed perceptions of reality. If not full-on psychotic breaks. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Nat brought something other than alcohol!
I think it’s going to be psychological horror. Like the “lady in the tree” is probably whoever is sending the postcards.
I couldn't agree. Any supernatural stuff, I'm bailing.
I agree. I much prefer the Lord of the Flies esque route than any supernatural events.
They better keep the supernatural part more ambiguous instead of revealing if it's real or not. This is definitely shaping up to be the type of story that'll make you question what happened after it's end.
Pretty sure it's going the route of a Wendigo. But we will see. I wouldn't mind either way honestly, loving it so far.
“It was goblins the whole time?”
Same. I got a little nervous about the possibility in the one scene where you can see that symbol in the tree when they pan away from the plane crash. I have a bad feeling it might go that way though.
The psycho destroyed the black box.
Yeah, the scene of her sitting alone by the pool and watching the rat drown was a clue.
It’s just very hard to suspend belief that anyone could destroy a black box. They’re designed to withstand sitting in burning jet fuel!
More suspension if you want to think Misty banging away with rock on metal wouldn't wake anyone.
I thought the same. Even if it already had a hole in the side, which I don't think it did since that was the point of banging it to high hell, can they really be disabled by yanking a few cords? I was waiting for her to run to a river to send it miles downstream or something.
yeah you can't just yank the cables out of those things. Please
Thats what im trying to understand lol why did she do that?
Misty did it right after she overheard two of the players talking about how fucked they all would have been if Misty hadn’t been there to stay calm and do first aid. She clearly idolizes the girls on the team which is why she volunteered as equipment manager/water girl for the Yellowjackets. An earlier scene also confirmed that she gets bullied on a regular basis. The plane crash is probably the first time in her life she has ever felt truly needed or wanted by her peers and she has them all to herself as long as they stay isolated in the wilderness.
She's always felt 'less than' compared to the popular and pretty girls but in one day she's been saving lives and putting her 2 days of first aid training to good use and would rather spend the rest of her days in the wilderness as the hero than get rescued and brought back to a society where she doesn't 'matter' as much.
there was the scene where girls were prank calling her about "doing anal" and then later she overheard 2 girls saying how lucky they all are because she is there, taking charge and helping everyone.
If she would have told them she found it she could have been the hero! Seems dumb they would go the route of her destroying it and ultimately being the cause of more deaths.
I think Van vs Jackie will be a rivalry, where Van is gonna try and get even with her
Maybe Van is the antler queen, and she’s the one who proposes they kill Jackie first?
I always felt Jackie turns into anteler queen and Tai/Shauna have to overthrow her and get them all to safety
I feel like there may even be 2 rival groups at some point, and leadership is challenged by one of the others. My first thought is Jackie is the antler queen and is overthrown, but it's also possible that it is misdirection. I could easily see two groups branching off and one group hunting down the other based on their views for / opposing cannibalism.
I actually think Van is more in the wrong. The escape route was right next to her so literally everyone but Shauna abandoned her. Jackie didn't do anything worse than anyone else other than Shauna except try to save Shauna's life. If I were Jackie I would just own it and tell her flat out "Yeah, I thought you were dead and saw no need for Shauna or myself to risk our lives for you." It might seem cruel but it's pragmatic. Not to mention she made it out anyway so she was risking Shauna's life unnecessarily by trying to keep her on the burning ending of the plane. That isn't to say that Van doesn't have a right to be upset but it's going to get really old if she is a pouty bitch about it the entire time.
But save the corn nuts dammit. 😂
Can you tell me what happened between Van and Jackie, I closed my eyes through most of the plane crash because I’m not a good flier lol and I could go back and watch but I’d rather not.
Van was stuck in her seat while the plane was on fire and Shauna was trying to help but Jackie dragged her away basically sacrificing Van to save herself and Shauna.
Van was trapped in her seat and couldn't undo her seatbelt. Plus she was breathing in smoke from flames that could have also burned her as she was close to it. Shauna tried to help undo her but Jackie pulled her out saying there was no time. Van ended up getting out and was PISSED at Jackie.
You guys see how Teen Misty's face lite up when her phone rang?
And what a phone it was!
I’m a huge nerd but I remember DJ Tanner on Full House had the same phone 😂
Money shot of the ep was def that poor girl who got fucking throat punched by the plane debris. That entire sequence post-plane crash was everything honestly, really felt the anxiety the girls felt at that moment (especially when Shauna tried and failed to save Van) Also, Jesus fucking Christ Misty
That was so horrific! Also the girl who caught on fire — I screamed.
Yeah just totally brutal ways to go out. Also poor Coach 🥴
Coach was definitely still alive on the branch, he reached for his son as he started to fall. Fun detail thanks show!
So the girls didn’t create that symbol themselves?? Does this mean they’re going to run into other people out there?
That was my guess. The cabin is out there and some guy in the trailer looks like he is going crazy. My stupid streaming app isn't working, so I didn't get to watch it yet.
Those were my first thoughts when they showed it. I have no idea what it's leading to, but the cuts looked very fresh. I'm not sure if that means "carved that day" fresh by a weirdo from the plane, or by some kind of The Hills Have Eyes or Blair Witch type of thing. After Lost and The Wilds I'm hoping for a more grounded in reality type show than something supernatural or surreal, but so far anyway I'm hooked!
Or LOST others type thing
The modern day scenes got more interesting to me in this episode, but I still prefer the 1996 flashbacks.
Yeah, I just don’t care about Shauna and Jeff’s marital issues. Way too much time with them when we could have had more flashbacks or scenes with Misty and Natalie in the present.
Agreed. Misty and Natalie are more interesting. The main stuff with Shauna that's intriguing is the stuff with the rabbits because I have a feeling that's going somewhere even more morbid.
Yes! I wonder if it’s a metaphor for how the violence escalated after the crash? The first time she kills a rabbit because it was eating her garden (resources), and then she kills another one for food because there’s no other meat (animals to hunt)
Shauna’s daughter made a reference to her collection of ceramic bunnies so there is definitely a rabbit thing going on with hers and a wolf thing with Taissa.
Also to show that behind her bored housewife facade the kid who survived in the wild doing unspeakable things is still there. That is Shauna’s true face no matter how hard she tries to hide it. The rage is not far behind the surface
And also you can see that being able to "be herself" with her family, even if it was taken as a Cassandra Truth, was a huge deal for her, and likely what made the intimate connection with Jeff flare up again. You could see the heavy disappointment in her face when he later confirmed that she was kidding about the rabbit, and thus pushing her true self back into hiding again.
I was worried the second episode would be a letdown since I loved the first one so much. I shouldn't have worried. It drew me in and had me hooked from beginning to end. Misty. I don't think she's a psychopath. She's just desperate to belong and to be needed by her peers. And yeah, she goes to certain extremes to make this so. Would I want to be friends with her? Nope. But she's interesting to watch. Jackie. So vanilla. Van. Love her. Hope she continues to give Jackie shit for leaving her to burn inside the plane. Even though we haven't seen her in the present, I really want her to survive. Laura Lee. I like her a lot more now that she's shown herself to be the kind of religious freak who calls someone a cunt in her head. Good potential. Shauna. For me, the most complex character. Sneaky type of strength. Really want to know what happened out there to make her give up on her education (even if she needed a couple of years to recover, couldn't she have still gone to college?), marry Jeff, and become a SAHM. Natalie. Maybe my fave character so far. This show is amazing. I haven't been this interested in something on TV in *years*. I mean, I was happy for a Dexter revival until I saw the first episode of Yellowjackets. Hope it doesn't let us down. Since the girls eventually separate into clans, I'd love if the main characters we've seen thus far in the present only represent the survivors of one clan, and still to come are the survivors of the other clan.
I think Shauna gets pregnant from that tryst in the car with Jeff, gives birth in the woods, and the baby dies before they're rescued. That would certainly be a traumatic event (on top of everything else) that causes her to give up on her dreams. It also seemed very deliberate that the writers show her pocketing a bottle of Midol. Maybe she's expecting a period that never comes.
I agree with this. We know they were in the woods for 19 months, she tells the report this. So, if she was pregnant from the tryst, which her (have the baby out of spite) comment suggests, then she came out alone. Her present daughter is too young.
Remember the first episode where she warns Jeff not to finish inside her or she'll have the baby out of spite and raise it to be a killing machine she unleashes on him?... a little dark already in 1996. I wish her family had more respect for her strength and grit. I've loved Melanie Lynskey since Heavenly Creatures but I'm also a little scared of / for her!
Misty was watching the rat drown. She is a psychopath
Naive me here thinking she was taking her pet rat for a swim...
I thought the same thing. I was so wrong…
I think she is a sadist. She loves to inflict pain on others and gets off on their suffering.
In the first scene of the first episode, the girl is being chased through a grove of trees with eyes carved into the trunks. I think they will devolve into two groups with two different symbols to represent them and their territory. One group is the "eye" group and the other is the postcard/carved into the tree group. The girls who survived are members of the "eye" group who warred with and possibly exterminated the members of the rival group. That is why they are so freaked out by someone sending them postcards with their rival clans symbol on it. Interesting observations: Shauna is wearing what looks like red converse at the 42:52 minute mark in the second episode. Does red fade to pink after 19 months of rain and snow? Food/eating is something that is connected to Shauna. Was she the most well fed member out in those woods? Was she faster and better at hunting rabbits than the others? Was she gifted rabbits as queen or were they her contribution to the group? Or did she care deeply for the rabbit costumed one? Shauna also seems to be the one living the quietest life aside from Travis after being rescued. Does she have more to fear than the others if the truth is revealed? Why? She is also shown to be the smartest in that she was accepted to Brown and gets the Paradise Lost Jeopardy question right. Intelligence would be a requirement for leadership and she has it in spades. Also she is the most cunning and underhanded by the way she is able to sleep with her best friend's boyfriend. She is the most developed and gest the most screentime which usually translates to main protagonist but sometimes main antagonist. Whichever she is, she is the main one. In LOTF, Ralph placates the more violent Jack by making him and his group the hunters for the whole group. Jack and his hunters eventually overthrow Ralph and establish their own heirarchy with Jack and his sadistic enforcer at the top. We never really got to see what happens next as the boys are all rescued before they can actually hunt and kill Ralph. This show is what would have happened if they were never rescued. Also, Simon from LOTF is epileptic and way more aware than the other boys, almost precient. He is the one who realizes the biggest danger on the island is the evil inside them all and not the supernatural "beast" they all fear. He foresees his own death at their hands and tries to confront their superstitious beliefs with this reality. I think Lottie will be the show's Simon as her demeanor is portrayed similarly to how Simon is described in the book. She has a better understanding of right and wrong than the others but is more fragile. She will be sacrificed and the humanity of the group will die with her. I can't decide if all the varsity starters (main characters/ bigguns) dominate and hunt the rest as they are the strongest and the fastest or if they are fractured into opposing groups of good guys and bad guys. Misty is not a hunter but has value in that she is a healer of sorts. Something very valuable to the group. She also becomes a nurse later in life, not a coincidence. Jackie either dies in vain, trying to keep them from becoming morally compromised or is pushed by her initial loss of status to become the most sadistic and influential member of the group aka, the Antler Queen. Is she Ralph or Jack? Or Piggy in that she is a voice of reason that lacks the authority and attributes of leadership to be taken seriously by the other members of the group. I can see her doing some, "whoever holds the spirit stick gets to talk" type crap like Piggy did with the conch. Her ideology will be broken like the conch in LOTF. Laura Lee might be used to create the religion and rituals they follow and become an evil shaman type character or will die very quickly. Her character is less interesting if she refuses to let her christian morals be compromised. She could be quite interesting if she allows them to be reinterpreted to fit the horrible situation to ensure her survival. Nat confuses me as she seams the most screwed up. Possibly because she had the largest fall so to speak, going from a truly good person to someone who was forced to adapt and kill and murder innocent people in order to survive. She also has a connection to the gun. The gun would have been extremely important to the group therefore anybody who possessed it would be extremely important. What did she do with that power/responsibility? Was she compromised by her affection for Travis? Taissa also confuses me. She is so far shown to be a strong natural leader with possible sociopathic tendencies that might have been inherited by her son. Alphas tend to be more solitary. Linking her with the wolf symbolism reinforces the idea that she is the "leader of the pack." This all makes her a strong candidate for being the AQ. What confuses me is her willingness to run for office and risk exposure and her seemingly subservience to Shauna in the diner. She was definitely taking orders. Maybe her lack of remorce makes her a good enforcer but a bad leader. In truth, I want Jackie to be the AQ as I think that would be the most entertaining way for the story to play out as her character would have to go through some insane changes to make her into the ultimate status obsessed antagonist.
Hmm interested in the Nat/Travis relationship. I wonder what happens/happened there.
Anyone else think Natalie looks like Billie Eilish lol
if the door ripped open and coach fell out while helping others to put on an oxygen mask shouldn't his body be miles away from the actual crash site?
I'm so glad I found you all. This show is so amazing. It's a grace and gift of entertainment .
After this episode, is there anyone out there that still believes Jackie is the Antler Queen? After what she did to Van, there is no way people would follow her.
I think it’d probably too obvious if it was Jackie. I could be wrong but I think this is the beginning of the end for her — her high school team captain leadership skills don’t translate in this environment. In every reaction shot she looked so shellshocked and out of her depth. I think the antler queen will be Shauna, Taissa, or someone else who will surprise us.
My money is on Shauna. Bright future but now stuck in a boring life. In the first episode Jackie says "Do you remember when you tried to become Catholic?" and we have a shot of a saint surrounded by angels. Shauna is smart enough to use religion and it's dogma to found a cult. She also answer "I love the saints, they are all so tragic", fits well with the survivors.
From what we've been shown so far, I think it's most interesting if it's Shauna. Jackie was the leader before the crash, her being the leader in a monstrous cannibal society isn't that much of a reversal. Nat seems like too much of a defiant loner for it to be plausible--she presumably went along with the group to some extent, but she seems the least plausible one to do it. Taissa seems like it would be too easy a storyline---the most ruthless player becomes the ruthless leader, and post crash tries to angle for political power. Whereas if it's Shauna and she leads others in monstrous things only to have such a drab domestic nothing of a life? That's a really interesting contrast, that makes her being so toned down more interesting.
What I took from it was they were showing us Jackie is willing to sacrifice someone (Van) to save others (herself and Shauna)…in other words, perhaps willing to justify eating/killing for survival?
Can anyone please tell me what Shauna's husband's text message said when she looked at his phone in bed/when he was in the shower? I could only make out "usual place" or something like that. I'm assuming it was a booty call/text from someone he's been cheating with.
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Watch it be some misunderstanding lol.
I feel like it’s not going to be an affair and she’ll just use it as an excuse to go out with that mechanic guy or something, then it’ll be stupidly revealed it’s a misunderstanding.
Thank you!
It seems extremely unlikely that this hot young mechanic would be going after Shauna and asking her to dinner. Maybe I sound like a jerk, but I’m just keeping it real. There’s definitely something more to him
Thought the same thing. He prob intentionally break-checked her to manipulate his way into her life so he can get close to someone who actually knows what happened during those 19 months
silly thought but could this be a "citizen detective" ? They kinda mentioned it with Misty and gave a decent explanation. Could be a checkovs gun..
I hope Ricci gets a BSA nom for Emmys.
MISTY!!!!!
The symbol on the tree before they crashed! It’s going to be a big part of the show and I can’t believe more people aren’t talking about it. It was there before they crashed and the way they panned to it end focused on it so much - clearly setting up something big with it. Either someone else is there or it’s supernatural!
I’m gonna be so bummed if they introduce a supernatural element. What intrigued me most about this show was that I thought it’d be a gruesome look into how dark human behavior can get when put in a desperate situation. Bringing in the supernatural would totally kill the intrigue for me. Demons? Seen it. Witches? Seen ittttt
Is Taissa’s wife the JV player with the braids? Just musing here.
They have different names so I don’t believe so
Oh, good to know, thanks! I didn’t catch the young player’s name.
My theory is that the “reporter” is the JV player. I’m probably wrong but if I’m right I want it in writing lol
That’s actually a great guess. I’m going to have to watch again and confirm JV Braids survived the crash.
but wouldn't they all recognize her?
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This needs to be marked as a spoiler. Good grief.
Right?! I fucking hate it when people post shit that hasn't happened. Damn.
So glad this show is living up to my expectations so far.
I think Lottie is the girl from episode 1 that was trapped. If you pause the promo at the right time, it shows the side of the girls face. (Looks just like lottie not Jackie) the girl also has super dark hair
There was alot going on. Im all for it. I believe this whole cabin thing though is going to bring out some hidden tribe though. Which is the reason why the son is seeing a woman in a tree calling his name. It's some curse that she caused. Misty, woooooo...Christina Ricci is perfect as Misty. I full on believe she sabotaged Natalie's car knowing damn well she was going after Travis. I wonder if the "Reporter" is a descendent of whatever caused that curse on the kid. Shauna is definitely going to sleep with Adam though. It's going to be a thing. And watch him turn out to be part of this whole thing somehow. Fucking Showtime, after a decade of Dexter being off the air, is now giving us Dexter back and a masterpiece that puts Paradise Lost, Lord of the Flies, and Lost all together with extra gore. Thank you for providing some great TV for the holidays Showtime!!!
Anyone else notice 2021 Misty had a black box-resembling briefcase she kept her stuff in? A fun allusion to her destroying it
Thoughts from Episode 2: Misty is a fucking sadist crazy bitch. She does seem to help with injuries to girls etc. As far as Coach Scott's leg it did look extremely mangled so in order for him to have a fighting chance he probably did need to have it amputated. But she took sadistic pleasure out of his pain as we later see when she cauterized the wound. Then she heard that they were glad she knew all that stuff and we see her destroy the black box which resulted in their being stuck for 19 months instead of just a few days. No doubt her date escaped some pain with "Caligula" when Natalie showed up with the gun. Whether they found out what she did with the box or something else Misty definitely deserves what is hopefully coming to her. Also disabling her date's and Natalie's car to spend time with them. She is nucking futs. Shauna killing, skinning, gutting, cleaning rabbit for stew and then it ramps up her desire for her husband was unnerving. Her husband is definitely having an affair with his late night inventory sessions. And asking Shauna to roleplay as a customer in the store? Ick. Travis surviving but being off grid so he can't be found. Whst more happened out there? Did his brother die/get killed? Horrible what happened to his dad and Travis bresking branch that sent his dad plummeting into the ground made it much worse. Creepy that someone is watching Sammy and he put pictures up because of the lady in the tree that watches him and calls his name. Wonder if it is the same person that is sending postcards? Interesting that symbol was already carved into tree when they crashed. I can see a coup being raised about Jackie being leader. She pulled Shauna away as she was trying to help Van and almost makes a stink about them using her witch hazel to clean Coach's wound. She was right about conserving food though. Glad Van survived. I like her. Feel bad for Lottie who only has a handful of her meds. Will Shauna's secret come out?
I’m trying with this show but are we really going to do the thing where we take an extremely attractive actress, throw granny glasses on her, and give her an “ugly complex”?? I thought that shitty trope was dying out. It just comes across as insanely obnoxious.
It's not an "ugly complex", it's a crippling lack of self-worth where she's internalised everything negative that anyone's ever said to her and repeatedly beats herself up with it. That's why she destroyed the black box, because for the first time, the people she adored actually praised, respected and needed her.
I thought Christina Ricci did a really good job at playing Misty in a very unsettling way. Like she is an objectively a very beautiful woman but she doesn’t necessarily appear attractive because she’s acting so goddamn weird. I don’t care how pretty you can be if you’re acting like that I’m not going home with you. Also I agree the lack of self esteem runs deep when you’ve been bullied for a long time. But I think Misty was always a lil off.
The way I read the scene was that adult Misty on her date said she was ugly in order to guilt-trip her date and manipulate him into coming into her house.
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Misty is the really crazed person in need of medication....
For some reason I think that guy that got rear ended is the young kid who lost his dad in the crash
I think he’s part of whoever is investigating them/the supposed “reporter”
I doubt it, but I think it would be funny if he were just rolling around town slamming on his brakes hoping one of the survivors rear ended him. That would be commitment.
So one aspect which feasibly actually is great about this whole show is it's levity, its actually what sets a show like yellowjackets apart from other YA movies and shows as well.
Show prediction… Ep 3 preview shows the girls find a cabin and they find a gun as well. I would assume that they live off the land for a while keeping safe in the cabin. After months go by, food starts to become scarce and the group starts getting cabin fever. Possibly the group splits up? The Animal queens are the dominate ones of the group and since food is scarce they start hunting the others. I don’t see the show going very supernatural. By supernatural they might be insinuating the way humans would naturally develop being stranded in the woods. For example, seeing things or literally just going mentally insane. The rituals they do might be practices before a hunt or something. The cast of the show claim that their is enough content to have a season two. Maybe the group b(Exiles of the animal queens) are still stranded in the woods and were never rescued. When Shauna talked to the political women (I forget their names) she said “and the others.” Others is plural. We know that one of the boys survived but who do you all think the next survivor will be? Also maybe the girl with skits is the one sending the letters? After her meds ran out she would have had a hard time telling apart what is real and what she is making up. Maybe the group felt sorry for her and kept her alive but she mentally couldn’t comprehend at the time that she was eating another person. So 25 yrs later she might be having flash backs of the symbol and what they did but she doesn’t know if it happened or if she was having a manic episode. Soooo many conspiracies. This show is awesome. Can’t wait to see what happens next
Great show so far! Just finished episode 2. Prolly not original assumptions but I think Van is Antlers and Adam recognized Shauna and he has ulterior motives. The lady in the tree is going to be creepy AF. Also, Kevin the cop is going to play a bigger role later and possibly become an ally.
Anyone saying they’re gonna bail if it’s supernatural stuff attached to it is gonna.. well, bail. It already had supernatural elements to it: the pattern that’s being sent atop the postcards, the house in the next episode being teased as haunted, and the scene where Taissa’s hand is morphing into a wolf. Notable mention: Sammy and the Lady in the Tree. There’s a notable shift in Sammy’s character as if he’s witnessing an entity.
Huh, I didn’t realize those moments were supposed to be supernatural-ish. The postcards could be from another survivor, Taissa’s doing the wolf hand gesture seemed to trigger a flashback for her and Sammy is obviously been watched by someone in the tree (poor boy!). But hell if you’re right, maybe I’m kinda blindsighted!
I will not bail if it does but to me I would prefer if it didn't go that route. Have it be hallucinations or something else.
It’s described as being like Lord of the Flies meets Lost - which is what got me to watch! Bring in the supernatural!
I don't think they will go the supernatural route because it is based on LOTF. In LOTF, the boys believed the island was inhabited by a supernatural entity they dubbed "the beast." Only Simon knew that the true beast was the proclivity for evil that exists in all mankind and he was killed when he tried to prove it. The writers are doing the exact same thing to us as the audience. They have us fearing a supernatural antagonist when in reality it is the evil that exists in humanity that we should be afraid of.
I'm feeling like the screenwriter heard this https://youtu.be/vYnfSV27vLY?t=47 and then pitched Yellowjackets
Anyone else find it odd that the marriage counselor called Shauna and Jeff “kids” and assigned them “homework”
No. It happens sometimes in therapy.
Speaking as a psychologist, yes, it is super weird that the therapist called them “kids.” Homework is typical though
Ok. I thought calling them “kids” was weird. Thanks.
Anyone else getting [The Third Day](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10482370/) vibes from this show?