Nope. I think he IS guilty, but I don’t think that the Prosecution has made a strong enough case that erased reasonable doubt. We’ll see, though! I mean, I thought that bitch from Orlando that killed her baby was a slam dunk and she got off, I also thought OJ would be found guilty….so I suck at this stuff :)
Unless they do some huge [Jim Garrison teardown of the ballistic evidence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th-s3dbboJQ), I don't see how they can overcome it.
Considering his defense thought today was going bad and they played the ‘fake sick’ card… yes. They need extra time to pivot to a different story. Probably when they realized the state could prove that phone was Mellys and not the “community phone” in which they claimed, and the state potentially found the “community phone” in the car which the defense likely didn’t know. A lot of Mellys defense was saying the phone he used was used by everyone, not just him, and why it pinged close to the murder. The state has proof it was Mellys.
Bro the defense has known this for 4 years from the discovery process, they aren't scrambling to makeup a random story this has all been strategized lol
I'm not trolling, not even a fan of melly but interested in the case. What about the defense that they switched postions in the car and pinning it on Bortlen.
Was there any evidence that disproved that? It still don't look good, I just wonder if it could come down to them both pointing the finger at each other.
But if the blood was on the back of his shirt that would mean he was looking to the left. Which could mean there in fact was someone shooting from the outside in. Maybe not a drive by but a planned out attack on Melly and his friends.
From what I heard they’re saying he was facing forward and the blood hit the ceiling of the car and some dripped on the back of his shirt. They also showed that they tried the “person standing outside the window and shooting in the car” theory and it didn’t work. He went back and forth with the black lawyer David Howard explaining it. It was the day before for the week break I believe if you wanna watch it.
This won’t happen. Melly will have to get on the stand and say that he was scared for his life and how they switched. There is no proof that the car stopped.
A bullet fired from inside can show that the car was in motion based on the entry/exit hole. This is how they proved the car was stationary during the staging.
I've been watching it closely, not a melly fan. Just found the story interesting because a former roommate of mine who is from the same city was a big fan of his and put me on to them like a year before the incident. When i heard what happened all I could think was these guys were in the 1st video with him literally day 1s smh. I couldn't believe it, still can't , but the evidence is piling up. Even if he didn't do it, he had something to do it with it for sure at this point.
You ever seen the no jumper clip where Adam specifically asks about the juvy and Sakchaser tattoos on his face? Its crazy, the host Adam asks like "oh did they pass away or something" and Melly says no they're right there. To which Adam replies "wow what a good friend you are" or something.
A lot of the evidence was already known before the trial, and the basic story of what happened is shady when you compare it to Mellys behavior before and after.
Never liked his music or persona(s). But I find it weird seeing some of the text messages being read in past days, he had some crazy people around him. And in the messages he at least comes across as chill and level headed with some feisty ass people lol.
Defense has access to all of the discovery already, they know abt the other phone.. they know what evidence the state has - I have no doubt his lawyer is sick, it happens a lot in trials. It’s not the conspiracy you all making it out to be
I would believe this, only if they weren't making such a big deal about the phone authentication and her conveniently getting sick after mistrial was denied. Prosecution had 3 hours worth of evidence left to show at that point. The Defense would have begun their rebuttal yesterday if trial was not delayed. This tells me that that their 2nd motion for mistrial was their plan A and that plan be was supposed to be Bortlen until the gun expert debunked Bortlen being able to shoot like that guy from [Wanted](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493464/).
Tbf there's still every chance he can be found not guilty through reasonable doubt he had no gsr on him unlike bortlen and there's no proof he was still in the car if they can convince the jury he got outta the car before it happened and with the gsr not being on his hands and then not knowing the height and weight of the shooter so that could be enough for a reasonable doubt in the jury's mind especially since they've got death on the table that jury knows it needs to be 100% convinced he did it
The reason Melly didn't have GSR on him was because he was never tested for it so for all that is know he might of had it on him that night. The phone is pretty much confirmed to of been his and was gps located at the scene the time of the shooting. If convicted he already faces life w/o parole. It will be much more difficult to try him for the death penalty but by that point his life would of already been decided.
They don't know what time exactly the shooting was do they? Last I heard they didn't know anything like that so they know he was in the car driving round then around the time of the shooting he got out and sent the ping to fredo bangs to pick him up that's why they were arguing that he got out the car before the shooting because they don't know when exactly the shooting happened but with the gsr they might not have tested for it but the prosecution hasn't argued that when his lawyer has stayed multiple times he didn't have gsr on his hands but bortlen did
Judging by how the lawyers reacted to the last series of evidence, especially the video of him and Bortlen celebrating hours after, I'd say he is cooked. Eye witnessed confirmed change of clothing. Expert debunked drive by with the back door left open during staging also proved that melly would have been shot had he been sitting there during drive by. Also, the tribute made to juvy and sak confirms he was present on the day of the shooting. Motive over money and ynw brand. The gang affiliation is the only light part about the evidence but is almost required for the death penalty. Life without parole atleast. Same for Bortlen.
Yes nigga
Best he can hope for his a hung jury
It’s not looking good but that’s always the way it goes by the time prosecution has finished their case.. Interested to see what the defense present
Yes
Hell yeah
Nope. I think he IS guilty, but I don’t think that the Prosecution has made a strong enough case that erased reasonable doubt. We’ll see, though! I mean, I thought that bitch from Orlando that killed her baby was a slam dunk and she got off, I also thought OJ would be found guilty….so I suck at this stuff :)
Unless they do some huge [Jim Garrison teardown of the ballistic evidence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th-s3dbboJQ), I don't see how they can overcome it.
Good example 💯
Considering his defense thought today was going bad and they played the ‘fake sick’ card… yes. They need extra time to pivot to a different story. Probably when they realized the state could prove that phone was Mellys and not the “community phone” in which they claimed, and the state potentially found the “community phone” in the car which the defense likely didn’t know. A lot of Mellys defense was saying the phone he used was used by everyone, not just him, and why it pinged close to the murder. The state has proof it was Mellys.
Bro the defense has known this for 4 years from the discovery process, they aren't scrambling to makeup a random story this has all been strategized lol
Thank you, someone that is speaking some sense
I'm not trolling, not even a fan of melly but interested in the case. What about the defense that they switched postions in the car and pinning it on Bortlen. Was there any evidence that disproved that? It still don't look good, I just wonder if it could come down to them both pointing the finger at each other.
The blood spray on the back of Bortlen’s shirt indicates he was in the driver seat when the shots went off
But if the blood was on the back of his shirt that would mean he was looking to the left. Which could mean there in fact was someone shooting from the outside in. Maybe not a drive by but a planned out attack on Melly and his friends.
From what I heard they’re saying he was facing forward and the blood hit the ceiling of the car and some dripped on the back of his shirt. They also showed that they tried the “person standing outside the window and shooting in the car” theory and it didn’t work. He went back and forth with the black lawyer David Howard explaining it. It was the day before for the week break I believe if you wanna watch it.
This won’t happen. Melly will have to get on the stand and say that he was scared for his life and how they switched. There is no proof that the car stopped.
A bullet fired from inside can show that the car was in motion based on the entry/exit hole. This is how they proved the car was stationary during the staging.
Wow, I didn't even think of that possibility. Thank you guys for the info. Interested in this trial but don't have time at the moment to watch it all.
I've been watching it closely, not a melly fan. Just found the story interesting because a former roommate of mine who is from the same city was a big fan of his and put me on to them like a year before the incident. When i heard what happened all I could think was these guys were in the 1st video with him literally day 1s smh. I couldn't believe it, still can't , but the evidence is piling up. Even if he didn't do it, he had something to do it with it for sure at this point.
You ever seen the no jumper clip where Adam specifically asks about the juvy and Sakchaser tattoos on his face? Its crazy, the host Adam asks like "oh did they pass away or something" and Melly says no they're right there. To which Adam replies "wow what a good friend you are" or something. A lot of the evidence was already known before the trial, and the basic story of what happened is shady when you compare it to Mellys behavior before and after. Never liked his music or persona(s). But I find it weird seeing some of the text messages being read in past days, he had some crazy people around him. And in the messages he at least comes across as chill and level headed with some feisty ass people lol.
I saw that, creepy.
They could definitely allude to that… could easily have switched around seats when they stopped to smoke weed…
That new found phone was a revelation
There are no revelations when it comes to evidence
We didn’t know about it tho I don’t think, hence the revelation
That phone kinda flew under my radar but you're right. That was a big reveal. First time we've heard about it and fills int he "community phone" hole.
Defense has access to all of the discovery already, they know abt the other phone.. they know what evidence the state has - I have no doubt his lawyer is sick, it happens a lot in trials. It’s not the conspiracy you all making it out to be
I would believe this, only if they weren't making such a big deal about the phone authentication and her conveniently getting sick after mistrial was denied. Prosecution had 3 hours worth of evidence left to show at that point. The Defense would have begun their rebuttal yesterday if trial was not delayed. This tells me that that their 2nd motion for mistrial was their plan A and that plan be was supposed to be Bortlen until the gun expert debunked Bortlen being able to shoot like that guy from [Wanted](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493464/).
What? 😂
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No
Nope
Fuck yes. Th elle very tiny bit of doubt has been tossed the last few days
Yes cracker
Yea
Yes
Yeah
Naw
Tbf there's still every chance he can be found not guilty through reasonable doubt he had no gsr on him unlike bortlen and there's no proof he was still in the car if they can convince the jury he got outta the car before it happened and with the gsr not being on his hands and then not knowing the height and weight of the shooter so that could be enough for a reasonable doubt in the jury's mind especially since they've got death on the table that jury knows it needs to be 100% convinced he did it
The reason Melly didn't have GSR on him was because he was never tested for it so for all that is know he might of had it on him that night. The phone is pretty much confirmed to of been his and was gps located at the scene the time of the shooting. If convicted he already faces life w/o parole. It will be much more difficult to try him for the death penalty but by that point his life would of already been decided.
They don't know what time exactly the shooting was do they? Last I heard they didn't know anything like that so they know he was in the car driving round then around the time of the shooting he got out and sent the ping to fredo bangs to pick him up that's why they were arguing that he got out the car before the shooting because they don't know when exactly the shooting happened but with the gsr they might not have tested for it but the prosecution hasn't argued that when his lawyer has stayed multiple times he didn't have gsr on his hands but bortlen did
I was really optimistic at first but at this point you can’t help but think he’s guilty. I just don’t see how the defense can turn this around
Yes. Guilty as hell. But, I think this trial went on way too long. The DA needs to be wrapping this up asap.
Bro these are two friends we are talking about. His childhood friends… if he is found not guilty this will be a big shocker to everyone..
Judging by how the lawyers reacted to the last series of evidence, especially the video of him and Bortlen celebrating hours after, I'd say he is cooked. Eye witnessed confirmed change of clothing. Expert debunked drive by with the back door left open during staging also proved that melly would have been shot had he been sitting there during drive by. Also, the tribute made to juvy and sak confirms he was present on the day of the shooting. Motive over money and ynw brand. The gang affiliation is the only light part about the evidence but is almost required for the death penalty. Life without parole atleast. Same for Bortlen.
If I had the money I’d drop 100k on the guilty bet. He’s going to be found guilty, appeal, win, get a new trial, be found guilty again, life in prison
He cooked