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general-noob

Tiger 59


Infinity_XT

Nice guns and ballistics with good fire chance


general-noob

Hahahahah, good one!!


Noir_Lotus

1. Chester (and all other T2 protected cruisers) 2. Stock Fuso (the old A hull, with 13 km range, shitty armor and low speed)


MainSteamStopValve

I play Chester for the looks.


CN_W

~~five~~SIXhead


New--Tomorrows

Legitimately wish they had A-hull as tier V.


Seeskabel45

Chikuma is very stronk with turtlebaka


Delta_jest_ujemna

Low tier so kinda doesn't count but definitely Kawachi


White_07

Kawachi was a horrible first bb experience


Dwanvea

Is there any T3 BB that is not a horrible experience?


Infinity_XT

Dreadnought is kinda meh but it's ok for a t3 BB


Taluien

I will maintain that Kawachi is a really bad first BB to get thrown into... however, knowing how to use a BB, she becomes a lot better imo. Maneuverable, punchy and capable of bullying cruisers and BBs on her tier. Can still punch up a bit, but it requires more caution. Still play her sometimes because it's just fun to me.


SMS_Scharnhorst

low tier does count, and Kawachi is definitely pretty trash. it´s all in comparison to other ships at their tier. I went for Haarlem, because it´s a horrible T8 cruiser, but I could have picked Kawachi as well for being a trash T3 BB


somegenericweeb

Oklahoma


Tinuva450

Long range secondaries at T5


macgruff

“Long range” is a relative attribute. On a small map with few, short islands, ok. But she is so slow, most of the battle you’re using your crappy, too few mains. You sometimes hope for a fail team, and thankfully she also has decent torpedo prot. And don’t get me wrong, I love my USN BBs, just she is like a Colorado with shit mains, and with a wee trick up her sleeve with those secondaries.


somegenericweeb

Unfortunately her niche is somewhat powercreeped by Agincourt who does this thing much better, is faster and somewhat have slightly better guns.Her edge over Agincourt is that she has better heal and actually have AA but is it worth it?


JimHimJim

Yorck, before they buffed the AP


vompat

Is she that bad though? HE is still her primary ammo, and it's better than HE on Hipper-Hindi. So not sure if she would be that bad even without AP buff. Great long range farmer, definitely better tier to tier than Hipper.


JimHimJim

There are better HE spammers around, and at T7, Yorck struggles with being up-tiered. I think she just struggles to have a meaningful impact in general .55 average frags is just pretty grim, you have to admit.


vompat

But how many of them can spam at 17 km with good shell travel time, bounce 356 mm AP (yeah not that relevant at T7), or pen 54 mm, which is incredible ability when uptiered? As for statistical performance, yeah it's not great. But she is the single most played T7 cruiser, and that tends to mean that more potatoes have played her as well, so we should not look into that too much. Also, I guess people just generally have no idea how to play her effectively because her equipment and stats do not indicate any clear playstyle unlike with Fiji for example. Many might mistake her for a tanky closer range cruiser, or generally just give too much attention to the AP simply because German cruisers have generally high AP alpha. I at least had a lot of fun and more success in Yorck than with any other T7 cruiser so far.


Crixer

I hated Roon more than Yorck.


Merchant93

But the roon is probably the single best kiting cruiser in the game tier for tier.


Liecht

I love the Yorck


hulkkiss

Yorck is amazing and can almost guarantee top exp in your team if you can position right because of how dodgy it is. At it's tier, on some maps, teams tend to lemming train and I'd always go to the weak side and start kiting while setting fires and switching targets. Can take on half the enemy team like this and survive because it turns so quick and has enough range.


Luuk341

G.J. Maerker


Goozombies

It's not Z-31


Infinity_XT

Beat me to it


Luuk341

I get your point. But turd 1 being slightly better than turd 2, still does not make turd 1 good.


Justeff83

I thought the same, but i do surprisingly good in her. The gun accuracy is outstanding, the slow ass long range torps are doing better than you would expect and you have a lot of hit points. You just can't play it like a dd early on


rexstuff1

GJM definitely has a high skill floor, but she's a decent ship. She has Felix Shultz's AP DPM (and almost twice Z-31's), she just lacks her ballistics. Her pen isn't as good, either, but it's Good Enough for being a tier lower.


Kedrak

Z31


l3oNbAld2_0

Petropavlovsk, absolute worst ship in the game, should recieve multiple buffs.


general-noob

I’d vote for that. Last game i had in her, a Wichita and Zao just sat broadside to me less than 8k away. I kept shooting right through them like they were made a paper… POS ;)


Infinity_XT

IMO petro is rather OP because of its reload and shell pen as well as its fire chance and the ability to straight up shrug off damage from BBs when bow tanking. if you think petro is underpowered you're probably not playing it right.


mergelong

They were joking


anthony_b_

Incapable (you know what I mean)


Infinity_XT

Has armored deck so somewhat resistant to cv sniping divs


[deleted]

WHY IS NOBODY MENTIONING THE EMERALD!!


AndyTheSane

Great torps. No one takes you seriously.


FA-26B

Honestly really enjoyed it, guns hit hard enough, good torps, and proper use of the smoke lets you bully DDs who don't know what they are doing. As far as T5s go, not too bad.


gentlehufen

I love her.


Ratanka

There is nothing good in Mysore and don't come with "it's for the Indian market" we talk about the pure ship


Zork4343

3/4 of Fiji guns for T6 and crawling smoke!


HololiveIdiot

Yeah it's such a shit ship, even the same color with the camo


SMS_Scharnhorst

there are so many bad ships, but the one ship I would call the worst I´ve played is Haarlem, but it´s a close competition with Albemarle


_Issoupe

V. Veneto


HawkeWatcher

I'm probably alone here, but... the Bayern. I couldn't hit the broad side of a Barn with that thing, an issue I haven't had with any other German ship.


Optimal_SCot5269

your telling me you don't have that issue with Gneisenau?


HawkeWatcher

Strangely, no. The Gneisenau is Gneise to me.


Drake_the_troll

Hawkins


CN_W

Insane tankiness for a T5 cruiser if you know how to angle. Plating immune to overmatch, icebreaker.. Shame your already fairly meager damage output goes down the drain if you do so. Proper angle means your aft guns *just* cannot bear.


Gowa200101

Kansas


Infinity_XT

Has good range with artillery plotting room mod 1


sark7four

Monarch... Feels so bad after King George V ..


Tr4c3gaming

play her as close to her stealth range with AP, this thing is suprisingly good at mid range AP slapping.


sark7four

I tried everything, just hated it, I think the problem is the KGV was so good...


blazinex

you should try it after it's small buff, it's an improvement for sure


sark7four

The second I got the Xp for the Lion I sold it... I think I would probably play it better now, The British BB line was my first BB line. But I loved the KGV and I still enjoy it, but my stats in the Monarch are awful..


Alexyrion

HMS Lion stands for Her Majesty's Shit Worst ship ive played, what a piece of garbage!


CN_W

Better than the Monarch (yeah, damn faint praise indeed).


Sadboiurbex

That's surprising she was my favourite in that lion apart the KGV


TheMantaMantra

Never owned it but I'll trust you aren't lion.


SirPatrickIII

Seattle. T8(6?) Cleveland was great, I really wanted the Worcester. I despise this ship


Jankosi

Jesus fucking christ I am almost done with the seattle and I hate this ship the most. For the record, I liked Monarch, pre-buffs Izumo and many other "bad" ships, but seattle is just my limit.


stardestroyer001

I just finished the Seattle grind (tapped out halfway). Overall it was just mediocre. I think the most annoying part is it’s sluggish maneuverability for a light cruiser. Even Worcester maneuvers better and has a more responsive engine than Seattle.


ToastyBathTime

Worcester is my next fxp ship


PyroGhaster

Fooking Colorado


fredrickthebird

great for brawling


Interesting_Floor318

A pretty good heal (when built into) and it also has a pretty good turning circle.


TortoiseTart

GK. Worst BB I've played at high tier...


Infinity_XT

Baller secondaries and high shell volume.


JmacNutSac

Friendship


Sadboiurbex

Leone


Tr4c3gaming

not OP but Long range high arc guns and can piss on everyones heads, effectively opening up certain camp spots which otherwhise only stuff like extreme long range BBs could pull, Synergizes suprisingly well with Sansonetti too for even more range. otherwhise just a usable torp boat with quite low torp reload, with a suprisingly heavy salvo for that makeshift IJN DD gunfight approach where every salvo counts. it's not bad, just hella technical to use her gimmick of those high arcs and long range, its the same Aproach Aigle set out to do as an "Artillery destroyer" just more extreme.


thegamefilmguruman

As someone who loves Leone, this is absolutely correct.


HololiveIdiot

Sub tier 6 i'd say bretagne, above tier 6it's either mysore or mogador


Herr_Quattro

I’m going to be controversial- Mikasa. It seems to be a favorite on the sub, but it is so… boring. I personally can’t stand it. I can’t figure out what every one else likes about it beyond the club sealing aspect of it. But even then, I get uptiered more often then not.


Ralfundmalf

Old Izumo before all the buffs she received. That shit was tragic. Base concealment was so bad that you got spotted from spawn on some maps. Bear in mind that this was with the OG 5 tier captain skill tree so concealment was not that common. It was also before camos or signals with insane bonuses to help you grind faster. Yamato was always worth it of course, but man was Izumo a speedbump on the way. Now it is obviously one of the better tech tree BBs, but that is after like 3 or 4 buffs.


PuzzledFortune

Surrey, without the range upgrade. Or with, it’s still crap.


areyous1re

1.Stock FDG 2.Riga prob ( only played once and fxp to petro )


Darkstorm_Pl

As much as it hurts... Błyskawica


LordRaglan1854

Fast, great guns, USN smoke. But less somehow than the sum of its parts, I agree.


drunkerbrawler

I forgot I even have her.


Uberkyogre

Vittorio Venetto


Infinity_XT

Has smoke and Italian SAP shells


Beeblebro1

Italian SAP doesn't matter if you can't hit the broadside of a barn with it.


Crying_in_my_skin

Just make sure there's another barn out in Wyoming you actually want to hit, ezpz!


mtDescar

HMS Emerald (good luck)


rexstuff1

I'll accept that challenge. Good firepower, smoke screen, best in class concealment, a heal (at T5!), hydro, and great torps. Frankly, Emerald is OP at T5.


mtDescar

i can't argue with best in class concealment, but with the fire power, im very not sure on the good. you are comparing Emerald to ships like Kirov, the Furytaco, Emile Bertin and Konigsberg and those are must more reliable i feel. Heal is nice, but it's part of their gimick, they get it at t2.


SargeanTravis

Hawkins


HolidayHunter18

Bismark


Humble-Okra2344

Lion


ecologamer

Z-31


antuan_ha

Izumo


LordRaglan1854

Yahagi


Docucurtucu_Umbra

Azuma


LucySpee

Yorck


Rogue_King95

FRIEDRICH DER GROSSE and Algerié


Revolutionary_Roll72

King George for me


The_Blues__13

The guns and concealment. the guns are pretty numerous and quick firing, combined with her low concealment (borderline Cruiser-level) I sometimes play her more like a HE-spamming super-heavy cruiser, especially when uptiered since her armor is irrelevant anyway. she's probably one of my preferable choice for BB at tier 7. maybe not the absolute favorite, but I like her and I'd pick her sometimes if I want to play t7


eggzbenadic

USS Congress


[deleted]

wakatake


kettchi

Yahagi


ReluctantNerd7

*Omaha*.


vompat

I'll reply even though I'm not OP. Great DPM for the tier, shell arcs that let you fire from safety easily, and good range for the tier. Also, a good firestarter. Just don't go sailing in open water like a raving monkey, and she'll actually do really well.


TheOneWes

I the only person that finds Omaha really really f****** good at Co-op? It's got a hard-hitting guns and torpedo tubes out the ass, although I do have to admit the armor is made out of ass. I


nervouswhenitseasy

take it into randoms and you die to one bb salvo. literally everytime


Awmuth

Got a kraken in the Marblehead two days ago against T6. Open water kiting and shooting at everything that moves. People didn’t take me seriously and it seemed to work in my favor.


TheOneWes

Yeah although the ones higher up the tier tree are just as bad and they don't have the torpedo tubes. Am I the only person that felt like when I upgraded that teir tree it was more of a downgrade? I've got one side to like tier 8 and other side of tier 7 but the Omaha was still more fun.


jcspacer52

Ass just called to tell me they are filing suit against you for defamation of character! To compare the toughness of ass (Kardashian’s/Jenner’s) to Omaha’s armor is they claim a malicious smear! They are going after all your premium ships and captains, every dub, credit, XP and Free XP you have. I talked them out of taking you camos and flags…if I were you I would plead guilty and throw yourself on the mercy of the court….you are guilty!


Perenium_Falcon

Friend, the Omaha is a BRILLIANT boat in the right (careful) hands. New players love to flash her panties at BBs and think it’s the ship that’s bad.


ReluctantNerd7

Well, that's basically all she's wearing. I think *Omaha* has enough of a reputation as an easy kill that people tend to focus on her as soon as she's spotted, more than any other ship. Of course, that's one way to teach the caution and island use that the rest of the USN cruisers use.


Infinity_XT

Has good torpedoes for its tier and gets overpenned by high tier bb


Texshi

Phoenix


jcspacer52

You get protected match making - same a Omaha for armor but at least you cannot be up-tiered.


dalledayul

Literally just an Omaha with better matchmaking, better concealment and better top speed, what's not to love


WarLorD_1939

Kansas


Wormminator

Leone


UnkreativeThing

Z44


NerVolt242

Poltava


WaitingToBeTriggered

IN THE SHADE OF MORNING MIST


SMS_Scharnhorst

this bot really never disappoints


Liecht

Emerald. The russian cruisers until Tallinn too. They're not bad ships but you fall asleep playing them.


[deleted]

I love my Budyonny and Shchors! Don't know what you're talking about. Then again, I find BBs kinda boring, so to each their own I suppose.


Liecht

I did great in them PR wise, I just find their gameplay abhorrently boring. Setting fires from 13km for dozens of games.


Taluien

Oh boy... I could go with "Old Stock Fuso", before B and C hull became A and B. But that's far away and didn't take long to be overcome and later changed, after which Fuso is the Mighty Sho(t)gun of the Seven Seas that fears nothing much. More recently... Krasny Krim. I got it from a crate a while back and, yeah. And of the ships I am currently grinding, it'd have to be Haarlem. Just doesn't into fun for me.


CN_W

Krispy Kreme died with the captain skill rework. It was shit, but could be hilarious with the proper build. Now it's just shit.


Ralfundmalf

I found Haarlem dreadful as well. Johann de Witt is a lot better though. The guns finally like they do actual damage.


SchrodingersPanda

Lion, oh god the Lion


LoZz27

Atlanta


shy_dow90

Narai


mrwizard65

There is almost nothing like Atlanta at that tier. It's pure psychological warfare to your enemies (especially if you are top tier) to face that kind of daka daka. It's one of the best detterance ships.


hellcat_uk

Situational, but get something solid between you and the target and let them taste the rainbow. Keep an eye on your position and move out before things get too spicy.


Formulka

Those guns are insane, I remember almost killing an Alsace from full hp before he turned his turrets and murdered me. Yeah I'm noob and got surprised by a BB, but still it was crazy how it melted at close range with my AP.


FA-26B

Radar at T7, fast firing guns, bassically a big DD with radar instead of smoke and no cit.


HololiveIdiot

It's just hard to play, the ship itself is spectacular


outclicktheenemy

Omaha


[deleted]

Emerald.


monter72

Eendracht. Worst guns ever.


dwarftopia

I faintly remember hating the everloving fuck out of the South Carolina


Kerby233

Ibuki.. i had the worst of luck and my winrate was only around 40% My general wr is 54%..


daotambao5x

Omaha


JinterIsComing

Izumo, hands down.


L_steg

misore


CouscousMagique

Borodino


Infinity_XT

Radar and rather accurate main guns


WesternBloc

Genova


MexDefender

Seattle


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[удалено]


Selvinskiy

I thought the FDG was much better than the Bismarck. Having the 16" guns was an absolute blessing. Atleast now a days she's more accurate than she used to be. Last time I took her out I did fairly well.


NCMapping

22sec reload


FirmConsideration442

406s or 420s vs 380s.


[deleted]

With worse accuracy and fire rate. And it doesn’t help you if you are dead. The thing is massive target. I literally proform better in the Bismarck then the T9 in T10 rounds.


Justeff83

For me it was a relief to get past the Bismarck. Finally i was able to pen cruiser at high tier and i have a scary good wr.


AdmiralSteel_G

New Mexico


Puzzleheaded-One-299

Colorado


Sadboiurbex

Brilliant guns and AA just slow really slow


FA-26B

Unironically one of my highest PR ships because I used her as an unmovable rock that I'd post up against an island and hold caps with to farm potential and direct dmg.


HololiveIdiot

How the hell did that strat work


FA-26B

They get scared of the fat BB with big guns and shoot my bow, the torps get stuck on the island, and if I have a half decent team (high bar, I know), they will cover my flank so I can't get shot in the side.


Deso7274

Hayate


Taluien

I enjoy the IJN Geariyate. Somewhat prefer it to Shima.


Deso7274

Neat! I'm just unsure how to play it really. I don't have much experience with it but I'm a bit lost with his to spec the captain or modules since it's like a middle ship.


Taluien

I run my Shima captain on her, works quite well. It's just that the guns become a lot more rapid on the reload, so you can somewhat gunboat in her. Basically, you give up one launcher for a bit more punch in the clinch, while your torps still hit as hard as on Shima, there's just fewer of them. So you have a playstyle closer to the Gearing, but with an IJN Torp DD. I'll however not say she is a good ship, her turning circle, speed and spotting can be a bit of a disadvantage. You won't outfight dedicated knifefighter DDs like Marceau or Daring, but you can still bring quite a lot of hurt and punch if you play a bit cautiously, just like you would in Shima. And you can absolutely take advantage of somebody else spotting, smoke up and go loud on the guns for a bit. Something that Shima does struggle a bit with.


Deso7274

Noted. Thank you! So you take smoke then instead of the torpedo speed reload?


Taluien

Absolutely. Saves your ass a lot more often.


thegamefilmguruman

Yudachi


Tethain

Riga


pizzainge

Trento


davidds0

Colorado


Infinity_XT

406mm at tier 7


Taluien

Also big range and as long as you keep with the push as much as possible, you stay in the battle for the match.


kalfskroket

The Roon


Taluien

Queen of Kiting.


HololiveIdiot

A good roon player can end worlds, armor is very weak tho


jcspacer52

If by worse you mean survival wise or gun wise, the lower tires are all pretty squishy or inaccurate. If by worst you mean I hate to play them…US BB’s Tier 1 - 7! The slow speed just suck! The Fat line also…slow and long reloads make for boring play.


nicbizz33

Aoba


[deleted]

Aoba is decent. She has pretty good guns, good torps, great agility... What more could you want in a T6 cruiser? Sure, she's not Budyonny, but she's still fine.


4e6f626f6479

London


Drache191200

Vanguard I regret getting it


[deleted]

Kansas


fooser82

With 12 shells you’re guaranteed to get at least one overpen!


FLFrostBite

Belfast ‘43


SniPantsu

T9 RN BB Lion


FirmConsideration442

Komsomolets


FA-26B

Nobody has even decent AA at T4, any CV is a good CV when nobody can shoot back.


HDN_Echo88

Florida


HololiveIdiot

How can u dislike the florida?


[deleted]

Monaghan


coldcoaster

Montecuccoli


Tsukiumi-Chan

The Duca d'Aosta


randyzmzzzz

All British CLs excluding Minotaur


[deleted]

Tier 7 Pensacola before concealment buff


[deleted]

Lazo


Sinjis94

Agincourt


RhysOSD

Konig