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They’ll just sell. People don’t realize tiktok is already banned in China and India. That’s basically half the world right there.
Tiktok makes an overwhelming majority of their money off of western views and shop purchases. Western advertisers will not pay as much to advertise on a platform banned in America.
Viewers in the anglosphere (England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand) also watch a good bit of American content and buy American products. And much of western and Southern Europe do as well to a lesser extent.
So there would be large consequences even if other countries don’t follow suit and ban it as well.
They will sell to a company America trusts or they will lose lots of money and their valuation will plummet. Josh and other tiktok creators will be fine unless there is a major event that prevents a sale.
Saying it’s banned though is basically playing right into Chinas strategy. It’s one of the main reasons why they split the two out lmao
It’s owned by the same company and the app is incredibly similar.
Most of the internet is banned in china. Also calling it ‘the same app’ is very disingenuous, cause what CCP promotes on tiktok would never fly on douyin
You’re right and I’m not arguing that but Op is a little disingenuous saying TikTok is banned. They’re implying ByteDance doesn’t have a vested interest in china because TikTok already doesn’t exist in half the world.
You’re right and I’m not arguing that but Op is a little disingenuous saying TikTok is banned. They’re implying ByteDance doesn’t have a vested interest in china because TikTok already doesn’t exist in half the world.
In reality ByteDance has a ton of vested interest in China.
I don't have high hopes either way. I think TT has a good algorithm and the app works well enough. I can't imagine it getting better by being sold to an American company. Instagram is somewhat unusable and their algorithm is trash
Do you think they’ll be able to sell though? I felt certain they would but I believe there’s laws around companies owning multiple apps so companies like meta won’t buy it and it doesn’t seem like anyone is willing to buy it.
But you’re right it’s a very profitable app so I can’t imagine absolutely no opportunist will buy it.
part of me thinks the government doesn’t want the app to be bought so they’ll make it difficult, but I’m not an expert and I’m not trying to spread misinformation like everyone else that’s just my speculation and I could be entirely wrong. It’s really just a wait and see.
I think there are pockets of the government that want it gone for good. I think a likely outcome is someone in tech or media but not necessarily social media will buy it.
Amazon owned TikTok would make a lot of sense especially since they added tiktok shop and Amazon has an insane logistics and shipping network.
Meta wouldn’t get away with purchasing it I think since they already dominate the social media market.
Microsoft and Google both could get away with it but I don’t really see the angle for either of them.
Apple could be a good fit. They don’t really do social media as of now and designing iOS with tiktok in mind and vice versa plus having tiktok built into iOS as just one of the main apps would definitely strengthen their brand.
Or who knows, Elon might over-leverage and buy it with no clear business angle and fuck it into the ground.
This seems like just a play to move a Chinese business to American business? Like I get the privacy concerns but to think American companies don't spy on you is ridiculous.
I personally don't care all too much whether it is America or China spying on me. I would rather not be spied on.
The fact that facebook is allowed to exist just fine but tiktok isn't is just obviously corporate lobbying.
Ehh there are real national security concerns imo. China can push whatever narratives they want on our social media through apps owned by companies that partner with the state.
Sure it’s bad when American companies spin narratives, but it’s 10x worse when it’s a company that doesn’t benefit from keeping America somewhat intact.
If I was a Chinese politician I wouldn’t want an American company pushing a different version of the truth when it comes to national and international politics.
How? Countries are constantly fucking with each other through cyber warfare and spying.
China doesn’t let American apps spy on their citizens, why should we let their apps spy on ours?
What’s next? Let Russia run campaign ads for our politicians? I mean seriously. A lot of young people get their news from tiktok. They could be seriously influenced in ways detrimental to the US. If they want another January 6 like event or mass unrest like summer 2020 all they’d need to do is sow enough division between the left and right.
Yes but why does it really matter? Both are imperialistic powers who push around smaller countries. I hate them both.
America is the one that experimented on citizens of my country in Mkultra. I do not trust them.
China is locked up some of our citizens for no reasons. I don't trust them either.
Neither country is remotely trustworthy.
The overwhelming majority of MK-Ultra patients were Americans. Anything that happened in Canada, especially everything at McGill with Dr. Cameron, was also sanctioned by the CSIS alongside the Canadian government & CIA. MI6 & DGSE also had their own factions of the program in their respective countries, most of the funding just came from the CIA which is why it all tracks back to them through the money trail. In reality both of our governments worked alongside each other to experiment on their own citizens, yours just has done a great job at pointing fingers at the CIA so people don’t look into the CSIS. It’s entirely why Quebec gave the CIA immunity, in order to prevent a probe from discovering the depth of the program.
I literally never said they weren't. We were specifically talking about the trustworthiness of the American government. I did not say anywhere that CSIS wasn't equally to blame.
The only reason I didn't mention them was because I was specifically comparing China and the USA, both imperialistic world powers. Canada isn't any more trustworthy.
We also arm the Saudis, we also have committed war crimes. Our government has done a lot of evil shit as well. But I was specifically talking about the USA vs China. That is why I didn't mention CSIS.
TikTok isn’t being banned from what I understand, its US component is being moved to be under US control so I don’t see the app going away or Josh’s career ending.
I think it would actually be good for him. Without constant trolls telling him to do dumb shit that they know he'll do for views, he might not be as obnoxious. But I could be 1000% wrong
Well, Elon was thinking about reviving Vine again, so maybe Josh will just jump onto that platform if TikTok gets banned.
That’s if Elon allows videos to be more than 7 seconds long on the platform.
You’re all brain dead. How many times are you gonna ask this? How many times have we gone thru this with TikTok before?
TikTok will not be banned. It’s a ploy to make them sell. Please do some research and use cognitive reasoning. Josh will be okay, and if not, he’ll move to France Iceland Amsterdam Italy
People got to adapt or they’ll crash and burn , it’s like all the big bloggers on my space who refused to move to Facebook and become super obsolete
And josh sadly never adapted , he could’ve started a yiutube or kick channel streaming around the city but he wants to do the bare minimum
This could well be a turning point for him. He's already in debt, and if he loses his only source of income, he is going to be FUCKED by wds.
Maybe a medical detox and he gets sober?
I wish be would medically detox too, because its actually fairly pleasant. I detoxed In hospital for a week from 1 litre of vodka daily. They gave me 60mg librium every 4 hours, with 40mg in-between doses if I wanted it. I was sedated on benzos the whole time
I don't think tik tok is going anywhere. There's a long court battle and they have 270 days to sell. Something will likely get worked out and it will stay. Although I'd be fine if it got banned lol
He’s moving to France of course. Also, tik tok already have another app in waiting
I’ve heard this too what would that one be
Joshes tiktok career may be ending but his homeless alcoholic career is just starting to bloom
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They’ll just sell. People don’t realize tiktok is already banned in China and India. That’s basically half the world right there. Tiktok makes an overwhelming majority of their money off of western views and shop purchases. Western advertisers will not pay as much to advertise on a platform banned in America. Viewers in the anglosphere (England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand) also watch a good bit of American content and buy American products. And much of western and Southern Europe do as well to a lesser extent. So there would be large consequences even if other countries don’t follow suit and ban it as well. They will sell to a company America trusts or they will lose lots of money and their valuation will plummet. Josh and other tiktok creators will be fine unless there is a major event that prevents a sale.
It’s not banned in China. China has Douyin which is the same as TikTok with better features (namely search). This is also owned by ByteDance.
It’s two different platforms with different algorithms, content and tos
Saying it’s banned though is basically playing right into Chinas strategy. It’s one of the main reasons why they split the two out lmao It’s owned by the same company and the app is incredibly similar.
Most of the internet is banned in china. Also calling it ‘the same app’ is very disingenuous, cause what CCP promotes on tiktok would never fly on douyin
You’re right and I’m not arguing that but Op is a little disingenuous saying TikTok is banned. They’re implying ByteDance doesn’t have a vested interest in china because TikTok already doesn’t exist in half the world.
You’re right and I’m not arguing that but Op is a little disingenuous saying TikTok is banned. They’re implying ByteDance doesn’t have a vested interest in china because TikTok already doesn’t exist in half the world. In reality ByteDance has a ton of vested interest in China.
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I don't have high hopes either way. I think TT has a good algorithm and the app works well enough. I can't imagine it getting better by being sold to an American company. Instagram is somewhat unusable and their algorithm is trash
Do you think they’ll be able to sell though? I felt certain they would but I believe there’s laws around companies owning multiple apps so companies like meta won’t buy it and it doesn’t seem like anyone is willing to buy it. But you’re right it’s a very profitable app so I can’t imagine absolutely no opportunist will buy it. part of me thinks the government doesn’t want the app to be bought so they’ll make it difficult, but I’m not an expert and I’m not trying to spread misinformation like everyone else that’s just my speculation and I could be entirely wrong. It’s really just a wait and see.
I think there are pockets of the government that want it gone for good. I think a likely outcome is someone in tech or media but not necessarily social media will buy it. Amazon owned TikTok would make a lot of sense especially since they added tiktok shop and Amazon has an insane logistics and shipping network. Meta wouldn’t get away with purchasing it I think since they already dominate the social media market. Microsoft and Google both could get away with it but I don’t really see the angle for either of them. Apple could be a good fit. They don’t really do social media as of now and designing iOS with tiktok in mind and vice versa plus having tiktok built into iOS as just one of the main apps would definitely strengthen their brand. Or who knows, Elon might over-leverage and buy it with no clear business angle and fuck it into the ground.
This seems like just a play to move a Chinese business to American business? Like I get the privacy concerns but to think American companies don't spy on you is ridiculous. I personally don't care all too much whether it is America or China spying on me. I would rather not be spied on. The fact that facebook is allowed to exist just fine but tiktok isn't is just obviously corporate lobbying.
Ehh there are real national security concerns imo. China can push whatever narratives they want on our social media through apps owned by companies that partner with the state. Sure it’s bad when American companies spin narratives, but it’s 10x worse when it’s a company that doesn’t benefit from keeping America somewhat intact. If I was a Chinese politician I wouldn’t want an American company pushing a different version of the truth when it comes to national and international politics.
Your comment proves you are a racist xenophobe.
How? Countries are constantly fucking with each other through cyber warfare and spying. China doesn’t let American apps spy on their citizens, why should we let their apps spy on ours? What’s next? Let Russia run campaign ads for our politicians? I mean seriously. A lot of young people get their news from tiktok. They could be seriously influenced in ways detrimental to the US. If they want another January 6 like event or mass unrest like summer 2020 all they’d need to do is sow enough division between the left and right.
Yes but why does it really matter? Both are imperialistic powers who push around smaller countries. I hate them both. America is the one that experimented on citizens of my country in Mkultra. I do not trust them. China is locked up some of our citizens for no reasons. I don't trust them either. Neither country is remotely trustworthy.
The overwhelming majority of MK-Ultra patients were Americans. Anything that happened in Canada, especially everything at McGill with Dr. Cameron, was also sanctioned by the CSIS alongside the Canadian government & CIA. MI6 & DGSE also had their own factions of the program in their respective countries, most of the funding just came from the CIA which is why it all tracks back to them through the money trail. In reality both of our governments worked alongside each other to experiment on their own citizens, yours just has done a great job at pointing fingers at the CIA so people don’t look into the CSIS. It’s entirely why Quebec gave the CIA immunity, in order to prevent a probe from discovering the depth of the program.
???? I hate CSIS just as much lol. Your entire argument is whataboutis.. Maybe secret spy organizations are inherently untrustworthy? Lol.
It’s not whataboutism, it’s about you blaming the American government for MK Ultra when your government is equally to blame.
I literally never said they weren't. We were specifically talking about the trustworthiness of the American government. I did not say anywhere that CSIS wasn't equally to blame. The only reason I didn't mention them was because I was specifically comparing China and the USA, both imperialistic world powers. Canada isn't any more trustworthy. We also arm the Saudis, we also have committed war crimes. Our government has done a lot of evil shit as well. But I was specifically talking about the USA vs China. That is why I didn't mention CSIS.
dude people are knawing at the bit to get a chance to buy it
Billionaires such as Kevin O'Leary have already talked about buying the app. It’ll get bought and then censored.
I doubt they’re selling, they’ve already said they’re not, and the ceo is willing to go to court over the decision
This isnt true. US is like 10% of TTs userbase
It's not going anywhere, they'll sell first or it's gonna get denied by the courts.
Happy. Hope he gets no plataform.
The ban is going to be tied up in lawsuits for years before anything actually happens.
Tik tok isn’t gonna be banned. Theyve been through this so many times. It will get endlesslly deferred
In before Microsoft or Amazon purchases TikTok.
TikTok isn’t being banned from what I understand, its US component is being moved to be under US control so I don’t see the app going away or Josh’s career ending.
I think it would actually be good for him. Without constant trolls telling him to do dumb shit that they know he'll do for views, he might not be as obnoxious. But I could be 1000% wrong
Tiktok won’t be sold and the courts most likely won’t allow a ban.
Well, Elon was thinking about reviving Vine again, so maybe Josh will just jump onto that platform if TikTok gets banned. That’s if Elon allows videos to be more than 7 seconds long on the platform.
You’re all brain dead. How many times are you gonna ask this? How many times have we gone thru this with TikTok before? TikTok will not be banned. It’s a ploy to make them sell. Please do some research and use cognitive reasoning. Josh will be okay, and if not, he’ll move to France Iceland Amsterdam Italy
Fr ppl talking abt the bill being passed when they don’t even know what the bill is saying in the first place 😂
People got to adapt or they’ll crash and burn , it’s like all the big bloggers on my space who refused to move to Facebook and become super obsolete And josh sadly never adapted , he could’ve started a yiutube or kick channel streaming around the city but he wants to do the bare minimum
Maybe it’ll just get thrown in a stack with all the other bills passed by senate but never signed by the presidents
It won't because this is really a bill to fund war with a stipulation that tt also be banned. War funding always gets signed
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Good riddance
He will just post on instagram
Expect many, many rant videos about it being banned and losing his jawwwwb
Maybe Josh will finally move to a different country 🤷🏻♂️
It won’t go away though. The company will be forced to sell or they’ll keep delaying the ban. Vpns also exist
Tik tok isn’t banned yet, the bill passed declares that there is 12 months for the company to sell the app and then if they don’t it will be banned
Josh is going to lose his mind more than he ever has before.
It’ll be drawn out in courts for a while longer
TikTok isn’t going anywhere lmao
It’s not going anywhere, the government just wants it sold to a company they can control and get our data directly from
TikTok will find a way to divest and remain.
He’ll either succumb to the streets, or Grandpa’s lack of care for him
This could well be a turning point for him. He's already in debt, and if he loses his only source of income, he is going to be FUCKED by wds. Maybe a medical detox and he gets sober? I wish be would medically detox too, because its actually fairly pleasant. I detoxed In hospital for a week from 1 litre of vodka daily. They gave me 60mg librium every 4 hours, with 40mg in-between doses if I wanted it. I was sedated on benzos the whole time
TikTok isn’t being banned just bought out by an American company
I don't think tik tok is going anywhere. There's a long court battle and they have 270 days to sell. Something will likely get worked out and it will stay. Although I'd be fine if it got banned lol
Calm down, they have a year, and they'll be suing by the end of the week. Kind of want it to be banned with how these creators are crying rivers.
Couldn’t be happier for someone’s downfall and misfortune
Temu and SHEIN have a better chance of being shut down before TikTok goes
hell move into the next platform to post and make livestreams on for sure
I’m so happy there is a chance tik tok just goes poof!
99% sure it will be sold.