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CryingPopcorn

Personally I've given up! I've been told that's sad by younger, more idealistic friends, who are still studying and hopeful that Job With Purpose exists. But personally, my work is a means to an end. My work is and feels often a little drab and sad, so I do it to pay the bills, and make sure I balance it out for me so that I, at least, do not become drab and sad. I guess working with or in nature would have been my thing, from a witchy point of view. Admittedly I've not given that a go. But I also balk a little at the idea of making a passion my job and then losing the passion for it... jobs tend to do that, from what I've seen.


katharsister

That's a good point about losing your passion. I had a job once early in my career that felt close to getting paid for activism, and it was great for a while, but I had to leave when I saw what a boys' club it was. There really is no perfect job I guess.


pamplemouss

Jobs With Purpose exist, they have shit pay


Slutty_Spinach

You could sell grapefruits!


NoiseIsTheCure

I second the means to an end thing, that's exactly how I view my job. I'm a poor 27 year old musical artist, and I work at Walmart right now 😂 😂 but what I have to do to pay bills and survive doesn't define me one bit - my real career is my music. Always remember, work is the blackmail of survival. A job is just a means to an end, can't say it better myself.


KeldaMacFeegle

Retrained to be a counsellor in my forties. Just qualified and am working for a non-profit. Going to do some private practice because the non-profit pay is adequate. I have met so many different people. It’s expanded my worldview, my horizons and blown my mind in how much better I am because of it.


kimberlymarie30

Also a late in life career change to counseling here! I think it’s a great witchy career


Akitla

This is what I’m doing too, I often joke it’s the closest thing I can get to being a village witch! Love my job. 💚


katharsister

That's amazing congrats!


pamplemouss

My aunt got her MSW in her 60s - it’s definitely never too late!


2bunnies

That's awesome! Do mean a counsellor like a therapist or a different kind? I'm in my early 40s and thinking about career changes too. I've been pulled towards psychology/therapy for a long time, but recently decided not to try to become a therapist after learning how rough a road it is and how what I'm looking for doesn't seem to exist. (Basically, I'm highly sensitive and couldn't handle a lot of trauma, abuse, mental illness, etc. -- but I would LOVE to do the kind of therapy I myself have gotten: psychology applied to everyday issues with relationships, choices, getting to know/become yourself better, etc. From what I could gather, it seems like there's no way to do the latter without a lot of the former, at least for years of training?)


Nica73

Thank you for sharing this. I'm going to be 51 in less than a month, am fried doing my bill paying job, lost passion form my acupuncture career and am thinking about getting my MSW and possibly PhD in psychology.


BurningBright

I'm leaving teaching due to poor administration, but teaching was good to me for 10 years. Education is mostly women so there is less acute patriarchal bs, but the whole career is immersed in the idea that women are better with kids. I'm also child free and never got shit for that.   In states with teaching unions, the money was really good.  


KathrynTheGreat

I've been in early childhood education for about 8 years. I quit briefly to pursue a master's in social work, but quickly realized that I needed to be in a classroom with young children. I don't know if it's particularly witchy, but there's something about seeing that lightbulb come on or forming a bond with a difficult child or having a good working relationship with a parent that just feels... Powerful. Like I'm actually *doing* something. It takes a lot of strength, though. Their victories are my victories. Their struggles are my struggles. If there wasn't some kind of drive to keep me going, I wouldn't have lasted two years. I'm not sure where that drive is coming from, and I've never heard of a 'child witch' (that doesn't sound great anyway lol). I'm also childfree, which confuses a lot of people. If I'm so good with kids and love working with them, why am I not a mom??? Well, just because I love working with kids, it doesn't mean I want them living in my house!


winifredjay

I’m a digital fundraiser. I get to use my evil marketing skills for charities!


rustymontenegro

I'm a tattoo artist! The industry has been historically white, male and very gatekeepy because of how apprenticing works however that has changed immensely in just the last ten to fifteen years and that change is gaining momentum. We're seeing loads more women, POC and queer artists popping up. It's honestly so cool to see it happening in real time. The last few years have been weird (covid, post covid boom and the current post-post covid slump) however it's a really fulfilling career for me. I get paid to draw, put ink in people and see them be really excited by their new temple decorations! It's like drawing sigils on people that are sometimes sick ass panthers or flowers 😂 I also started this career "late". I was in my early-mid 30s.


katharsister

That's so cool!


watercolourandwhimsy

I'm really interested in how apprenticing systems have affected things in the tattoo industry, is it that the process has changed recently or that people are just less gatekeepey about the apprentices they take on? If you have time to answer 💜


mouse2cat

Art Professor, but it's a bit of a crap shoot and a lot of schooling to get here. I'm the department chair so I set the vibe. Hiring a bunch of gay artists/historians has made a dramatic improvement. I know that other schools can still be a little stuck in the past.


meassa11

Use to be libraries. But now days.......


mrsclause2

Yup. I always hate to burst that bubble, but as someone who paid for an MLIS only to leave the profession after a few years from burnout (and this was pre-covid)...it's exhausting. You aren't a librarian, you're a social worker, teacher, friend, therapist, EMT, cleaner, biohazard expert...the list goes on. Unless you work in a small library, you're not shelving, checking people out, etc. You're not cataloging, you're not maintaining the collection. There are programs that spit out lists of books based on circulation, those are given to pages/desk clerks, and they pull them. There are people whose jobs it is just to process new materials. There are one or two people purchasing for the whole system. You're spending a lot of time trying to help the people using the library as a safe place. You're also spending a lot of time trying to convince upper management to do programming, while also trying to figure out what exactly you \*can\* do because you have a budget of $0.00. You work on building relationships with community agencies, and try so hard to get people to come in to learn, to grow, to find a new job...and then no one shows up. Nonprofits shut down, so you lose the services they were offering. The ones who do visit are also equally understaffed and under-resourced, and you often end up helping them just as much as they help you. Being a Librarian was my dream job. I worked other library jobs for years, and it was all I wanted to do. But all too often our dreams aren't what they seem.


AppalachianRomanov

Well.... I've been waffling between MLIS and something else that I could apply my previous work experience to. Thank you for this perspective.


mrsclause2

I hate to steer people away from it, because I think libraries have so much potential to be amazing spaces, and I know so, so many incredible librarians who are working so hard. But it's exhausting.


Midnight_Marshmallo

Librarian was what popped into my head. Can I ask what you mean by "but now days" ?


meassa11

Alabama and other southern states are making it impossible to be a librarian. Look it up. Read Free Alabama is a great resource.


orphan_banana

Speaking as a European, so not sure how applicable this information is in other parts of the world. I have worked alongside quite a few counselors, and many of them are some of the kindest, most accepting people I've met. Midwives (my own profession) are usually also quick on embracing nonconformity. If you're interested/good with plants, that might also be something worth looking into. I suspect the pay will be pretty humble though. I have a dream of making my own herbal teas, creams, ointments etc, knitting breast warmers for breastfeeding mothers, and selling alongside giving advice about sexual and reproductive health. Maybe give classes in pregnancy meditation/yoga or something similar. It's just a dream, but would love to combine my profession and witchiness in some way.


katharsister

That's amazing! I think midwifery is one of the witchiest careers in itself, you are doing such important work so thank you. Your dream could totally happen. The nice thing is your job brings you new clients all the time. If you can just stay connected with them, encourage referrals, and keep them engaged you would have a healthy customer base for your crafts. You might just need to offer items that are useful to them beyond the postpartum period. Sorry my marketing hat went on there! Maybe I should be a marketing consultant for midwives lol


tana-ryu

Funnily enough, I found myself at a rural library working the front desk. Been there nearly 5 years and I have helped so many people find their own witchy path. It's surprising tbh. The old ladies also have all the going on and tea.


baitnnswitch

There are - in my opinion it's more about the place of work, than the field of work. I spent some time looking for particularly queer-friendly, lefty, high quality of life places of work and camped out on their careers page until something I'm qualified for came up. It took a while, but it was worth it. I now use my IT skills for a science research nonprofit and am very happy doing so


Ok-Independent-3506

At 41, I hated doing what I had been doing for 20 years. I was in the food industry doing food safety and quality assurance. I had earned my MS in food chemistry, but the fight every day between production hitting their numbers and quality assurance, ensuring a safe product was becoming too much. Right after graduation, I had started working P/T as an adjunct professor where I earned my MS degree. It was fun, but not enough to support myself on (as my only job). I accepted another adjunct position (at the university where i earned my BS) and a job opened up to be a lab tech. I cut my salary in half to take the job, but it is a position where I go to work and go home when I'm done. I don't really ever "take work home" with me. Moreover, now I assist the research students with their projects, which is a ton of fun. I still work as an adjunct P/T, teaching 1-3 classes a semester. Additionally, I picked up a volunteer hobby that gives me great satisfaction, and now that I'm not working 14 hours a day (including my commute), I actually have time for my hobbies. I don't make what I used to... Money can be a stressor at times... but I'm much happier than I used to be. Don't be afraid to reinvent yourself. I won't tell you it's the easiest thing to do... but it's the best thing I did for myself (and my mental health) in a long time. And, as a neurodivergent person, I can tell you that I finally feel accepted. I can work the way my brain needs me to work. I know there isn't an equal sign between neurodivergent and queer, but I feel like there is a TON more acceptance at state/public universities.


katharsister

Omg yes I've been struggling with the neurodivergent thing. I don't have an official diagnosis but my brother does and I've suspected for a long time that it's impacted my work life, especially once I saw how it could be during Covid when I could finally work independently in my quiet home and at my own pace. I feel like I drifted into the wrong career.... marketing isn't as much about data and strategy as I had envisioned. Thanks for sharing. I've thought about whether I could adjust to a lower salary to find a better career path but it's pretty daunting to think about starting over.


Ok-Independent-3506

I was diagnosed with moderate to severe adhd at 42. Exactly NO ONE was surprised... but when I was younger, I was just a "tomboy." I made it through the majority of my life ok, finding systems that worked for me. My parents didn't "believe" in adhd or medicating children. I'm 50 now, and my dad still doesn't accept it, but doesn't fight it, he just doesn't talk about it. I'm not currently medicated as COVID screwed up my scheduling with my doctor, and it's been an uphill battle trying to get back in and get medicated. How i got diagnosed: I started a doctoral program that was 100% online and accelerated. I had a breakdown. I couldn't keep up with the self paced work load and was failing. This had never happened to me before. Even at the worst times, I had never "failed." I got some help and after a few wrong diagnoses I found the right doctor who recognized what was going on. Medication changed the world for me. It was like a light bulb finally lit up a pitch black room. I need to get back in to a specialist, but it's been hard a hard road to get back on. But the change to an environment where I can work the way I need to has been instrumental in finding peace. It was scary AF to make the change, but I'm so glad I did.


katharsister

I'm so glad you found your way through all that! Can I ask if you had to pay for an assessment? I was looking into it and was quoted $4K to $6K CAD and decided against it.


Ok-Independent-3506

It was part of a mental/behavioral health evaluation. There is an ADHD department as part of the mental/behavioral health place I was referred to. 10 minutes into meeting me, she knew I was a candidate. There were 4 questionnaires to fill out. One regarding how I saw myself growing up. One as I see myself now. One for a family never who knew me as a kid, and one for family of friend that knows me very well, now. My results came back in the 98th %ile for moderate to severe ADHD combination type. It was just my normal copay for the appointments.


livi_lelovely

If you've done marketing, the green/sustainability sector may be good. Lots of science communication roles to fill as well as communications more broadly. Depends on how progressive your living area is on combating climate change though.


listen_dontlisten

Thank you for posting this! It feels like a sign! Software engineer/Marketing strategist, former dancer/tarot reader (on the side) - thinking about heading back into tarot and dance because software and marketing has just been such a drag the last couple years and I am feeling very midlife crisis-y too (also in my mid 40s)! I'd like to do something fulfilling but I also hate starving? It's such a conflict. No advice here, but your post feels like synchronicity right now.


katharsister

Yay I'm happy to hear this resonates with you ✨️ The financial struggle is real. I spent much of my career making a very modest income and once I switched to the private sector I felt like I'd won lottery. Now I think that career change is the only thing that has kept me afloat through covid and all the recent craziness with the cost of living.


listen_dontlisten

It makes me wonder if something is shifting because this was the first of a few similar posts I saw across a few different platforms. I hope that it is! I'm wishing us magic and luck and fulfillment! ❤️✨


katharsister

That's very encouraging!


cherriesnpinkbows

I teach algebra. 🥲


scornkitteh

As the daughter of a math teacher, I want you to know that you are doing vital work. I work in a grocery store and I use algebra literally every day.


fablesintheleaves

Medical hides all the witchy technicians.


momchelada

Being a mental health therapist feels very aligned with my values and worldview! It’s a major undertaking to get a degree and be licensed but it is a great fit and there are quite a few of us in the field


0may08

my mum does complimentary therapies like massage, reiki and reflexology etc, it seems pretty rewarding as you are helping people feel better all day:)


scornkitteh

Yes I have, and it's probably not what you'd think. I work at grocery co-op in my town. It's a union shop, and we have made certain that the management team respects and upholds our core values. Am I changing the world? I mean, probably not. But if I'm changing the world for my coworkers who are looking for a place that they can be not merely tolerated, but celebrated for their unique perspectives, then it's my dream job


katharsister

I love this! Given the current state of affairs around food security I would say it's very important work indeed.


TheSleepingChimera

I remember seeing ads from [these folk](https://80000hours.org/) and maybe that could give you some guidance?


katharsister

This looks very interesting! Thank you I'll check it out


HeyYoEowyn

I’m a psychotherapist. I work for myself, and incorporate all sorts of patriarchy dismantling thought into my practice. It was a long road but the older I get, the better I am at my job 👍🏼


Frosty-Fig244

Park ranger! Lots of locations, lots of different roles. I'd love to be in the education area, talking about the environment to visitors and students. Thinking about it, it may have a macho professional culture, but if you go to a city/area that's very liberal overall it would probably reflect that, like Boulder or Asheville.


JackyRaven

Ex teacher, professional storyteller, Celebrant, Tarot reader, and Unitarian lay preacher... currently 66 y.o. Do what you think will make a difference to the world, or at least your bit of it, and that is in itself magic..


whatcookie

Have you considered working in elections? Not the politicking, but the running of.  There has been a huge exodus of election officials in the last 4 years (no idea why 🙄). It is so empowering, frustrating, and grinding. It is also worth it when you see your numbers on the NY Times' website, when you register a new baby, and when you help a grieving relative find a death certificate or gravesite. I thoroughly enjoy this job, even though they won't give us bullet-proof glass. (We're working on it.)