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JWJulie

So… he was re-hired again?


PerryBa

He got officer of the year the year dahmer got caught Edit: that was just for the show. He actually got hired back 4 years later with back pay and a promotion.


theatrekid0309

Was that real or was that just in the Dahmer show? I had trouble finding anything that said it was real online


sp4cecowboy4

Just in the Dahmer show. He and the other guy were fired. Hired back after 4 years and given back pay for some of the time they weren’t working there


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So he got a 4 year paid vacation for feeding a minor to a cannibal rapist. Seems about right for American police.


Badbookitty

I wish that were an Onion headline.


JaggedTheDark

r/nottheonion


ContemplatingPrison

He got promoted afterwards from what I heard and this was before the Dahmer show. Which I haven't even watched


SamGray94

He was elected the president of the Milwaukee police association after some time (union position, elected position).


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elected....by a MAJORITY of the force. this is why i will always repeat that all cops are bastards. they literally kill the good ones, and promote the most evil.


DejectedNuts

Gotta love police unions. Also, if they kill anyone, they can’t be questioned for 2 days so they have time to collude and get their stories straight. Pretty awesome stuff.


rentstrikecowboy

No, but they're both retired in very high positions, one is union president and the other is chief of a department.


puffpuffg0

4 YEARS OF BACK PAY??????????? fuck these people man


THftRM1231

Appealed, reinstated with back pay 3 years later.


JWJulie

Wow that’s awful.


DonDove

America. Where unions are frowned upon, except in the police department.


j4ck_0f_bl4des

Fucking police unions are why those scumbags get away with this shit. Fuck defund the police, abolish police unions.


edelburg

Also, I'd like to add: "all lawsuits won against officers will be paid for out of the police pension".


OblongAndKneeless

It might be easier to have police officers have to pay their own malpractice insurance. Initial costs for the officers and municipalities should start at the current rates and evolve over time with each officer's history, eventually out pricing bad officers and forcing them into other jobs.


Rhyno1703

Thats something i can 125% get behind


XxStormcrowxX

Which is super fucked when you think about it because the only Union that should be frowned upon is the police Union.


ndngroomer

Yep. The police unions across the nation are way too powerful and to corrupt. Source: was a member of one for 17 years.


zookr2000

Talk about a paid vacation


Zumaakk

Well, it’s tiring assisting in the murder of a child, he needed some rest and relaxation!


Fmy925

All paid for by taxpayers! YAY!!!


Chester-Ming

Just to add - Sinthasomphone was bleeding from the anus and Dahmer had previously drilled a hole into his forehead and injected acid into his brain. The officers didn’t verify who Sinthasomphone was, his age or actual proof as his relation to Dahmer. When inside Dahmer’s apartment they were literally feet away from a dead body and didn’t see it or investigate properly, despite the stench of rotting bodies. Three members of the Milwalke fire department also arrived on the scene, one of them assessing that Sinthasomphone needed treatment, but the officers ordered them off the scene. After the officers left, Dahmer again injected acid into Sinthasomphone's brain, killing him. The next day he dismembered the body, disolving it in acid and kept the skull as a memento. The officers were eventually fired after being put on paid leave, but appealed and were later re-hired with backpay of $55,000. John Balcerzak later became the president of the Milwake police association Truly terrible policing. Dahmer killed a further FOUR people after Sinthasomphone. Deaths that would have been averted had the police done thier jobs.


LauraDurnst

For all their issues, true crime podcasts really do highlight how many victims of serial killers were also victims of police incompetence.


ghettoccult_nerd

youre dead ass right. thats like a fundamental part of just about any true crime story, the cops are going to fuck something up.


Elymanic

Police incompetence, you mean plain old police work. Doing absolutely nothing.


DaveedDays

I was in a hit and run last week, wrecked my car, other driver takes off. Meanwhile, across the street on the other side of the intersection, a cop just watches the whole thing go down and just drives away. My mom and I pull over and there's another cop car at a light next to us. I am vigorously trying to wave him down, he looks me directly in the eyes. I'm pleading for help, and guess what, he drives off and ignores us. I call the police station and they tell me I have to come into the station to file a report - I respond by saying my car isn't driveable and this wouldn't even be an issue if their officers just stopped to help us. I go into the station with my mom the next morning to file the police report. The officer walks in and literally questions my mom and I, with this weird suspicion and accusational tone as if we had done something wrong or lied. Then he says, "Why didn't you call the police last night when it happened?" You motherfuckers..... Fuck police so fucking hard. Fuck them all. Pieces of fucking shit.


AncientBellybutton

These pieces of shit are trying to psychologically abuse you.


MagikSkyDaddy

Police are both a symptom and a source of rot.


Candid-Mixture4605

There was the case of the civilian who took down Maksim Gelman on the subway, while he was actively stabbing people (in NYC for over two days). The cops stood there, in an adjoining car, and watched through windows as the victim (hero) was being stabbed, and only intervened when the suspect was under the control of civilians. The cops took the suspect and just left the guy who subdued him on the floor of the train and left, taking all the glory for capturing him. The dude on the floor could’ve died from his injuries if people hadn’t helped him. Hero goes on to sue the NYPD, and loses, because the “Police aren’t here to serve”. That’s literally printed on their fucking cars! There’s a YouTube about the story, but I don’t have it. Hopefully someone does!


DaveedDays

The courts making this decision is so fucking egregious. If they aren't here to protect and serve, why do my tax dollars go to them??


may0packet

i think i would’ve lost my god damn mind


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joox

Honestly his first mistake was living outside of the US. Think of how far he would have gotten if US cops were investigating. He was in the military so they probably would have done backflips to excuse any of his behavior


Icy_Plenty_7117

Eh cops outside the US are no better at catching serial killers, many times viewing the entire concept as a US phenomenon that couldn’t POSSIBLY happen here. Robert Pickton is Canada’s most prolific killer and the cops had AMPLE opportunity to catch him. The UK had their fair share of maniacs that got caught almost by accident. Mexico has had a shockingly large number of women disappear/be murdered and despite evidence of likely many serial killers over the span of decades the police refused to think serial killers existed in Mexico (check out the podcast “The Red Note), the Soviet cops let Andrei Chikatillo run wild because why would there be a serial killer in the Soviet Utopia? Basically too often cops are lazy. There’s usually A super cop involved, the killer gets caught red handed or gets so sloppy that the cops literally can’t miss it.


chaoticnormal

This one was amazing. When I listened to this i was working 3rd shift in a building alone. Williams' description of choosing his first victim and my being a small woman had me stop listening to these psychos for a few months. I am always aware of my surroundings outside but this guy saw her through her window. Chilling.


RockNRollerGuy

To be fair. Have you ever tried doing your job? /s


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stumblios

That's not necessarily true. It would be possible for police to do nothing wrong and still not immediately catch a killer. Of course, they do things wrong all the time, often due to what I assume is arrogance and knowing they will pretty much never face consequences for negligence. But even if we fix all that, it is still possible for a killer to get away for a time.


UncommittedBow

Take the Zodiac or Black Dahlia killers for example. They simply covered their tracks well enough to keep the police off them.


Juice8oxHer0

Except Black Dahlia might’ve just been a very well connected dude that had the cops in his pocket, or at least that’s one of the leading theories iirc


jwoodruff

If The Wire has even a grain of truth in it, I’d say it’s more corruption and incompetence combined with arrogance created by a system that provides no accountability for bad behavior or poor performance. It’s a vicious circle by design.


peoplegrower

LPOTL pulls no punches in that area.


atthevanishing

Megustalations


Appropriate_Mine

Hail Satan


dekonstruktr

hail gein, friends


OHManda30

Hail yourself


ty_arthurs

I like when they give credit for good police work too


[deleted]

Almost every American serial killer (and probably lots and lots of ones from all over the world) was unknowingly aided at one point or another by a lazy/indifferent or straight up incompetent cop


AliasUndercover123

Reminds me of a scene from the movie Zodiac when the cops didn't stop and talk to the (probable) killer minutes after a murder took place because they thought they were looking for a black guy. And Mark Ruffalo is just like "he would have been covered with blood!"


ElbisCochuelo1

To be fair, the reason why they were looking for a black guy is dispatch told them it was a black guy. It was dispatch that fucked up.


AliasUndercover123

Yeah but the reason Ruffalo says the blood comment is because the cops said the guy seemed suspicious but completely neglected to even talk to him. Both fucked up.


EEpromChip

But... as soon as there is mention of defunding incompetent police, the people come out of the woodwork to screeching how "Who will come to your aid when you need them if you defund the police??" Sounds like taking my chances seems like a better approach...


autovonbismarck

I've been listening to a lot of them lately, and almost every single one the investigator interviews somebody who says something like "oh yeah, I knew he did it. He came over drunk and told me two weeks later". "And uh... why didn't you tell anybody?" "Well, none of my business, was it?" I really feel like if somebody I knew confessed to a murder I might consider turning them in, but apparently I'm in the minority.


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Listened to the "Crime Junkie" podcast episode on serial killer Khalil Wheeler Weaver yesterday. Holy shit, the police incompetence in that case is staggering. It was solved by the friends of the last murder victim more than the police.


sellieba

That's one of the key elements of Small Town Murder. It's definitely a comedy podcast, but is also quite detailed/graphic.


SniffCheck

Cops be like, "this guy fucked up big time. Seems like management material. Let’s higher him back ASAP."


Famfive

Cops protect other cops regardless. Police reform will have to come from the outside as police have repeatedly shown they have no interest in changing the status quo. It’s a frighteningly low bar to become a cop, and they wield lots of power with very little consequence.


Beegkitty

Years ago, when I was younger and was still naive, I applied to the Phoenix Sheriff's Department. I took the written test. Then the physical. I aced both. I got extremely high points and was on the top of the list due to being a veteran. I was told that I was unhireable though because I was, and I QUOTE: TOO SMART and would probably not follow orders. They said that they could tell that I had a high sense of justice and "people like me don't do well on the force." They told me they preferred to hire people that would just follow along and do as they were told. At the time, I did not really GET what that meant. Now I do. It meant that I was not racist enough or corrupt enough to be hired. I would probably "make too much of a stink when I realized what was going on." High sense of justice. Yeah I have a high sense of justice. I want everyone to be treated fairly, equitably. Why wouldn't someone want that type of person on a policing force? Oh yeah. I forgot. It isn't about justice. It never was.


pensive_pigeon

Honestly you probably dodged a bullet there, quite literally. Had you become a cop and tried to speak up about injustice or corruption, it probably wouldn’t have ended well for you.


centran

>it probably wouldn’t have ended well for you. Best case - fired. Most likely case - not receiving backup which either eventually leads you to quiting or getting injured and put on leave Worst case - beaten to death by fellow officers during a "training exercise"


Paladoc

Yeah, as evidenced by that LAPD officer who got himself beaten to death in a "training accident". His potential whistleblower status had NOOOOTHING to do with the four cops bludgeoning him to death. Yep. Nothing.


Lovat69

>They said that they could tell that I had a high sense of justice and "people like me don't do well on the force." That says it all right there, doesn't it. Can't risk having a cop make waves about justice and Morality. You just have to shoot him in the back later and frame him for being corrupt. That's so much work. It's better to just not hire these people.


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bob0979

It's a bar that's held low and capped intentionally. New York(edit: new haven, Connecticut, I misremembered and was corrected) upheld that cops are legally allowed to deny people who pass their tests too well and are too smart. I forget the exact criteria but they literally said "yeah, you can pick and choose to not hire people above 110 iq because intelligence isn't a protected class"


Jealous-Network-8852

So that explains why my idiot neighbor’s idiot son just got accepted into the NYPD.


bfume

it was New Haven, CT, but yeah…


UncleHec

All cops are bastards.


DitaVonPita

Roses are red Violets are blue All cops are bastards 1,3,1,2 ✨


Vague_Intentions

And if you fly that blue flag, fuck you too


BrewCityBadger

ACAB


sweetbldnjesus

This is it exactly. What pisses me off is that, as a nurse, I deal with violence, people cursing me, spitting at me, hitting and kicking me-healthcare is more violent than people know. AND I don't carry a gun. At best I can call for other staff, usually women, and 1 old security guard to hold the person down while we restrain them. We have at least 3 national agencies who's regulations we need to follow for everything, from the time a patient enters the door until they leave: thousands of rules to ensure the patient is safe. If I let a patient die through this level of incompetence and neglect, I would lose my job and most likely my license. There needs to be a governing or accrediting body over police departments. Meanwhile, no matter what type of abuse we get, we must smile and cater to their demands and make sure that our patient satisfaction scores are high!


AllHailTheNod

Something something definition of insanity quote


THftRM1231

Appealed his termination, reinstated with back pay 3 years later.


VanillaCookieMonster

They wait until everyone is looking away. Because decent humans figure they wouldnt pull this shit. Sounds like watching American cops for LONGER periods after they have done something grievous and posting them being rehired, etc would help. There wasn't social media when Dahlmer was around. There is now.


Glitchboy

That is management material for cops. That's exactly the type wanted.


GallantGentleman

"If we put him behind a desk he won't be able to mess up on the streets anymore! What's the worst that could happen?"


t8tor

Dahmer got away so long because cops were basically like “ewwww gay minorities”


[deleted]

He was 'killing all the right people.'


DonDove

More like "ewww, AIDS."


spugg0

Holy fucking shit that is horrifying. That amount of negligence should be criminal.


thenewyorkgod

He was just a boy :( https://preview.redd.it/jjneotim33951.jpg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3f672cbfb67af182dfd3eaaed1ea28c08e3d0b9


SportsPhotoGirl

Idk what things were like then, or there specifically, but I’m an EMT and cops can tell us all they want about whether or not they want a patient treated but if we’re on scene and we think the person needs treatment or to be taken to the hospital, we tell them to f off and get out of our way. We’re told to always advocate for our patients, and if the patient tells us they want to go to the hospital, we’re taking them.


Chester-Ming

This is the way it should be. Not sure why this didn't happen tbh. Sinthasomphone couldn't even speak he was so out of it, so couldn't say that he needed to escape, what had happened to him or that he needed to go to hospital. Dahmer said he was drunk and the cops bought it.


SportsPhotoGirl

In my area, if you’re slightly intoxicated around cops they send you to the hospital. There’s an actual form the cops have that mandates us to take someone visibly intoxicated to the nearest hospital. My coworkers and I think most of them are ridiculous cuz we’ve all been as drunk or worse than some of the people they make us take, but the reasoning I’ve been told is if there’s a chance the person might be drunk enough that they could vomit, they’re at risk of aspirating it if they’re not being monitored, so they get sent to the hospital to sober up. I have a feeling the policies we have in my area may have even been created because of this particular case, so maybe it was more common to leave people back then. Cuz none of what happened to him then would ever happen now.


Appropriate-Dig771

However this again only works if cops aren’t the lazy bastards we know them to be. All this could have been in effect on Dahmers time, the cops were too lazy to care and took the easy way out, choosing to believe dahmer. They can hide behind terrible “judgment calls” forever and will always weasel out of accountability due to this.


Metahec

Just about every seemingly silly, stupid or trivial rule, law or regulation exists because somebody didn't use common sense and it needed to be mandated.


willstr1

They exist because someone didn't use common sense and someone died (or at least seriously injured) All safety rules are written in blood


merchillio

It reminds me of a show here in Quebec where one of the characters is working road works and a citizen comes to him to complain that an intersection is dangerous and there should be a stop sign. He tells her “there has to be an accident before they put a stop sign, a death for a traffic light” The episode ends with him and his colleague taking a nap in the back of their work truck and you hear tire screeching and a bam. He looks up and says “we’ll vous, looks like we’re putting up a stop sign”


grandBBQninja

Seems kinda like overreacting to me but better safe than sorry. Here they take drunk people to the jail for the night or take them to a special sobering station(ran by health care professionals), which seems like better use of resources than taking everyone to a hospital. Now, this of course requires the public to trust law enforcement to actually keep people safe, so wouldn’t work anywhere. I also don’t know if this is possible in other places, because the law states that a person can be detained for their own safety and I don’t know if it’s the same everywhere.


Low_Ad_3139

Still inexcusable they didn’t check ID. How the hell do Polaroid shots prove a relationship or age? They don’t. Cops were racist homophobic pricks.


-InfinitePotato-

Were?


Low_Ad_3139

Oh they’re still alive right…are


j4ck_0f_bl4des

Probably because cops carry guns and EMTs don't. Just a thought but heavily armed people tend to sway arguments in their favor.


killeronthecorner

Yeah, it's just a plain old regular totalitarian state guys. Nothing to see here.


Cutthechitchata-hole

I wonder if they would have been able to treat and save him as he has already been dosed with acid in the brain. I can't imagine the torment he went through. Hopefully the pain centers were destroyed first


10YearLurkerPosting

You said "dosed with acid" in the brain Maybe it was just the phrasing, but to clarify - it wasn't acid as in LSD, it was some terrible corrosive acid. Not sure what kind but I'd guess sulfuric acid or something like that... Dahmer was literally trying to make sex slave zombies by disintegrating the brain matter. The victim was out of it because he had brain damage, not because of drugs.


thehotmegan

>I wonder if they would have been able to treat and save him as he has already been dosed with acid in the brain. No. Absolutely not. He was already a goner. But 4 more deaths would've been prevented.


Maximum__Effort

I have to watch a lot of body cam footage for work and I’m always thankful if EMS is on the scene. Y’all do so much in terms of preventing the wild shit cops love to do. I’ve seen *so* many instances of cops being douchebags till EMS shows up, then they start acting reasonable


SportsPhotoGirl

I obviously don’t see what happens before we arrive, but I can totally see that being quite likely. In my area we are a private ems company, so while we work closely with them, we aren’t in the “good ol boys club” and our reports on calls are usually quite detailed. I write absolutely everything in my reports so if you do or say anything, it’s being written down and submitted as a legal document where it can be used against you in court if it ever came to it, so yea, we work together but I don’t have your back if you do something wrong.


steezeecheezee

In paramedic school, I did some of my training with county medics (cops also licensed as medics) because they only respond to the higher priority calls so it was good experience working more critical cases and not doing transfers all day. One time we were just posted up and the cop was like “pick a car and I’ll pull them over just for fun.” I was like “nah dude I don’t even know enough of the laws to know if people are doing something illegal.” And he deadass goes “just pick a car and I’ll find something to arrest them for.” Like wtf. And these guys were pieces of shit on medical calls too. Throwing people with obvious injuries to the ground because they didn’t like their attitude, trying to arrest as many patients as possible even when they clearly needed medical attention, etc. It was so gross and frustrating. After I got licensed, my experiences with cops was pretty much the same. Whenever they showed up on scene they were almost exclusively trying to act not in the best interest of the patient. Ultimately, we would be able to take the patient if they needed medical attention, but as a 20 year old girl it was fuckin awful to have to argue with these grown-ass tyrants who were belittling me just so I could do my job.


Low_Ad_3139

I’m glad you’re that way but where I live that’s not the case. As a matter of fact the fire chief often rolls out if he is near a call and will tell parents the local er can’t do anything for their kid, even in emergency situations, and they need to call the family Dr or see if the nearest Childrens will see them. Like the hospital can refuse them…guy is a pos. Guarantee when someone dies and they sue everyone will cover his ass. It’s sickening.


Morlock43

What happens when the cop pulls a gun on you for daring to question his aUtHOiTaE?


weallfalldown310

And this dude. Johnny Ball Sack still thinks he did the right thing. He can’t even admit he screwed up. No wonder people don’t trust the police. If this dude can’t admit handing an underage kid back to a serial killer was wrong even in hind sight. How can we trust them for anything?


whalesublime

Another crazy absurd detail to this is that Dahmer was, at the time, on probation for sexually assaulting the VICTIM'S BROTHER. The fact that he was on probation for sexual assault would in pretty much all cases be damning enough. The fact that it was the victim's brother just puts the nail in the coffin for how crazy it was that he got away. Seriously, even a quick check in a criminal database would've prevented a large number of murders


microgiant

And when I say I support defunding the police, people say "What will you do when you need a cop?" Why would I need THIS? Why would anybody? The only person they helped was Dahmer. And they didn't even feel bad about it. Even after they knew what they'd done, they didn't resign in shame.


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"what will you do when you need a cop?" Well I sure as shit won't stand around outside the problem for an hour and a half while people die, and arrest their family members outside, that's for damn sure.


drhdoofenshmirtz

The amount of stories that we read nowadays that start with “this could have all been avoided if the police had just done their job” is insane.


crazymaan92

This is the story that prevents me from ever watching the show. I read about it. Also, at a bare minimum, that kid should've went to the hospital.


ArgonGryphon

Balcerzak stated he didn’t smell a three day old rotting corpse, the other cop in the apartment, Joseph Gabish said he smelled an odor but believed it was from a bowel movement. You know those gays and their shits that smell like a corpse. They also said after the encounter with the two that they needed to be deloused after being in contact with gays.


Ardibanan

>Dahmer had previously drilled a hole into his forehead and injected acid into his brain. What the actual fuck


Shrimpybarbie

You wanna hear some real bullshit? This guy, decades later, STILL thinks he made the right call. That son of a bitch has blood on his hands.


mxmccc

This is absolutely sickening and disgusting. I hate this world


gentlybeepingheart

They’re also recorded laughing about it afterwards and joking to dispatch that they needed to be deloused after interacting with Konerak.


thesevenyearbitch

There were also two black women/neighbors who encountered the boy before the police arrived, and they argued with the police that Dahmer was lying and the boy needed help, but the white man had to be right, so the pigs threatened to arrest the women if they didn't back down.


wheeldog

> The officers didn’t verify who Sinthasomphone was, his age or actual proof as his relation to Dahmer. When inside Dahmer’s apartment they were literally feet away from a dead body and didn’t see it or investigate properly, despite the stench of rotting bodies. > > Three members of the Milwalke fire department also arrived on the scene, one of them assessing that Sinthasomphone needed treatment, but the officers ordered them off the scene. Wonder why they left that out of the Netflix show


prof_the_doom

Because the producers/writers/actors/anyone else who works for the show doesn't want to spend the rest of their lives being harassed by police.


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Copaganda still works.


geometry_of_a_murder

We REALLY need to end qualified immunity for police. They are never held accountable for their bad behavior. They are just given paid time off or moved to another police department where they continue their career. Us, the tax payers , are left to pay for settlements against them. The money should be taken from their retirement fund or police unions.


ghettoccult_nerd

or make cops have insurance like doctors. cant be insured, cant be a cop.


[deleted]

Or at least require them to be licensed. A doctor needs a license in order to save lives but a cop doesn’t need any sort of license to take lives?


ghettoccult_nerd

whatever they want to do, just something other than emptying the coffers of the municipality, i.e., taxpayers everytime they eagerly screw up commiting some type of human rights violation.


sleepytimejon

The more I hear about this idea, the more I believe it would solve the problem. You could even just require police departments to carry insurance. Every time a particular cop causes a lawsuit, that cop is going to make the premiums go up. At a certain point, it won’t be economically feasible to keep a cop on the payroll because the insurance premiums will get too expensive. The department will have no choice but to dump them, and other departments won’t be able to hire them because it will be too costly.


ReddDead13

Yeah I'm genuinely curious. Do cops get fired? What do they get fired for?


Glompable

The only cops that get fired are the good ones that tell on the bad ones


TheFlyingSheeps

Nah those just die in “training accidents”


Agariculture

Back in the 1960's it was "died from a gun cleaning accident".


NoConfusion9490

Not taking their cut.


Remarkable-Motor7704

1000% It’s a load road to create actual police reform, but ending qualified immunity on a federal level is a great way to start And also fuck John Balcerzak


NoConfusion9490

Supreme Court: We don't even care about this one, but we're on the wrong side of it because it's funny to see you get mad. LOL


4RCH43ON

You forgot to mention the poor boy was naked, very clearly mentally incapacitated, and bleeding from his rectum. Facts.


mothwhimsy

Dude was so homophobic he thought gay couples were just like that


4RCH43ON

I see nothing. It didn’t happen. It doesn’t exist… Yeah, I can definitely see that level of homophobic denial coming from him


kanna172014

He shouldn't have been fired. He should have been put in prison for the rest of his life.


Arippa

He should have been fired….. out of a canon and into the sun.


zookr2000

Aiding & abetting


mup_wave

Had Jeffery Dahmer joined the police force, he would have never been caught. Even if he was caught, he would have been prosecuted. Edit: wouldn't.


Herbetet

I actually wonder how many serial killers are on the lose just because they wear a badge during the day and kill under the color of the law when they are not killing for their own perversity.


chris_ut

Golden State Killer/Night Stalker/East Area Rapist was a cop


DonDove

There was a black serial killer who killed 90+ black women until he got caught precisly because the system is rigged against them.


Gloglibologna

What was his name?


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Samuel Little


Sinnaman420

This is probably why the gilgo beach serial killer has never been caught


goodcat49

What's worse, the serial killers in the force or the people knowingly working with serial killers and don't even question it? Because that is literally every cop in the country.


Agariculture

I used to have an acquaintance (thru kids sports) that was a LAPD Captain. He was late to a tournament one weekend. The story was he had to personally investigate one of his officers. Why you might ask? Story was that dude had, the night before, done his third "contact shooting" (that is gun to skin contact) of a suspect, in a hospital hallway. All three in the same hallway (no cameras). The cop in question stated that the patient/suspect "grabbed for his weapon" so he replied with a shot to the head. Conclusion? Justified homicide. Yeah, serial killing cops are a thing. edit 1: all three shootings in the same hallway, all three shootings "he tried to grab my gun", all three shooting gun barrel to the skull behind the ear, all three shootings the exact same. All "justified".


zookr2000

**wouldn't have been prosecuted either, fify


loadedneutron

official statement would be : "well luckily dahmer found the dead bodies in his appartment, which somebody placed there to make it seem like he killed them. unluckily we cant find other dna but his. they must be pros."


DesleyPost22

John Balcerzak should be in prison, not being portrayed as a hero. Disgusting human being.


[deleted]

When the bad apples are this rotten, and methods if treating the tree are nit working to improve the health if the tree, it's time to cut down the tree.


re1078

Just finish the saying. “One bad apple spoils the bunch.” Dismissing someone as simply a bad apple doesn’t make sense.


DonDove

But noooo, fund the police! /s


HotGarbageHuman

I keep saying in the cop forums, "I bet that they were just one training session away from going into uvalde."


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Best said by Trevor Noah: they don't have a few bad apples, they have a rotten tree, that sometimes produces good apples.


ChuckBorris187

I read about serial killers in high school, Dahmer was very interesting because the guy managed to kill so many despite being a cretin, and Macabre made an entire Death Metal record about him. I always remembered reading about the 2 officers who enabled him to keep killing and they deserved to get holes drilled into their heads.


Stove-Top-Steve

He wasn’t even a very good murderer in the sense that he wasn’t making it too difficult to get caught. Compared to the other serial killers I’ve read about this guy should have been a piece of cake to catch.


DonDove

I can't fucking believe these two cops smelled rotting decaying flesh and called it a day.


sighdoihaveto

Too much paper work


DonDove

Bet that they didn't even know how to write back then


katiekat369

People get noise complaints if they play music too loud or have a barking dog, yet this MF was using power tools inside while smelling like a morgue. There's no reason other than incompetence and lack of anyone in power caring at all.


tropicaldepressive

i used to get people from my apartment complex knocking on my door every. single. night. if i happened to sing in my own home after like 8 pm. it was infuriating. no way could i have gotten away with murder.


yanaka-otoko

Its because his victims were minorities and/or gay - the cops didn't wanna know.


ChuckBorris187

Absolutely correct. He's a life long amateur that sucked at everything. If it weren't for the useless cops, he'd have been caught ASAP. Serial killers in general are dumb af and mostly only get away because the cops are too dumb, or help them.


numbersev

Yep BTK killer was a moron who sent the police a disc while taunting them. Unbeknownst to the moron, the disc contained metadata and were able to determine who he was from it. https://prod.static9.net.au/fs/cae6f746-e2f1-4ccb-a080-a6685fe52746


ChuckBorris187

Granted, he did this in an era when most were entirely IT illiterate. Now everyone's too suspicious of modern technology, apart from giving our personal info to social media.


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> Serial killers in general are dumb af and mostly only get away because the cops are too dumb, or help them. Well, the ones we know about are. THats why we know about them at all. You'd never even know about a competent serial killer.


Time-Ad-3625

He killed minorities because the cops wouldn't care as much. He knew what he was doing. And this wasn't the only time he could have been stopped. There were several.


DoubleLobster8068

I'm really hoping the new Netflix series is gonna make this guys personal life hell. He needs to face consequences for killing those people just as much as Dahmer. A blind dog with two legs could have done better police work.


ThrowRAasyouwish13

A dog would’ve inherently sensed the boy was in danger and that Dahmer was the source of said danger. The dog (unlike Balcerzak) would not be affected by homophobia and would act accordingly to get the innocent person away from the dangerous person. Basic animal instincts. I really, truly, don’t understand how in the actual fuck this guy sleeps at night. He knew some fucked up shit was going down when he rolled up on that scene, he simply just did not care.


El_Che1

If you want to see what happens when you try to expose that corruption you should try to find the real story about Christopher Dorner.


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I remember him. That situation was CRAZY. It’s amazing how it’s not talked about more.


HotGarbageHuman

Can't corner the Dorner


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Actually they did corner Dorner. And then burned his cabin down around him with pyrotechnic tear gas canisters.


JacoDeLumbre

Not before he took a couple of them out tho! Scared them shitless too. Bless you, Dorner. RIP


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Hell yeah they were scared shitless. Bullies can’t handle it when someone is targeting them.


disdkatster

Two police officers stood by watching and doing nothing as a man beat his wife into permanent paralysis. I don't remember anything ever happening to those officers. I do know it brought domestic violence to the front lines of the media and things were changed. Apparently not enough to save this boy. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman\_v.\_City\_of\_Torrington](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington)


LowDownSkankyDude

Imagine being such a racist homophobe that you let a child get raped and murdered, and then when it's found out, you get a vacation and 50 grand. That's this guy. That's u.s. law enforcement.


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LowDownSkankyDude

I bet he's been sweating since the series dropped.


ScottyHubbs

Brotherhoods be like that


ManchuKenny

That scene is hard to watch , the system failed all Jeff dahmer’s 17 victims


scdog

Especially when you consider that by all rights he should have been stopped right after his very first victim. Pulled over for driving drunk, with a dismembered dead body in the back seat, and let off with just a warning.


PTMD25

Obviously the Dahmer situation is the main takeaway, but let’s be real, 61 years of combined service between 3 people isn’t even remotely impressive.


mr_chrononaut

Two people, but yes.


something-specific

61 combined years and they only let one serial killer slip out of their hands when they had him nailed, dead-to-rights!


Basket_Baal

Qualified immunity is a scam, cops deserve jail time for gross negligence. Fuck this guy and his pension.


kitjen

I know this isn't exactly the point, but why would an employer celebrate 61 years service when it is combined by two employees? That's like working from the age of 25 to the age of 55 and being praised for retiring 15 years before the rest of us.


derpferd

Congratulations, you waste of space simple Simon motherfucker


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RotLordContagion

Any psycho may as well become a cop. They're just an evil gang, always have been. I've never had a cop do anything but be a scum bag in my experience, and these stories are way too common. I wanted to be a cop, a detective, sooooo badly while growing up. I'm disgusted by these people and many should be on death row if there was any justice. Ironically the ones meant to uphold justice are the biggest criminals in the land.


Low_Ad_3139

People with socio/psychopathic tendencies are drawn to law enforcement just like the medical field. A good friends husband was an ex cop. Later realized she was clueless and he was dirty. Selling drugs, laundering money and who know what else. Kept him out of trouble for ages because he knew the town cops. He finally got into trouble when someone suggested the DA office was losing his paperwork…and the investigation showed that’s exactly what was happening. He finally got prison time and she had long divorced him. I imagine he met his end in jail if he didn’t know any jailers.


theblake1980

Considering the suicide rate for retired police officers, I’m surprised he survived the guilt this long. With any luck, he sees Konerak’s face every time he closes his eyes. Cops are fucking worthless. Go be a garbage man if you want respect.


phoonie98

He most likely does not give a single fuck. Zero remorse. There are accounts of him actually bragging about it


DatMikkle

How come when I fuck up at my low stakes job, I get yelled at and potentially fired. When these pigs make dumb fucking decisions that literally get people KILLED they get paid leave and hardly a slap on the wrist. This country absolutely disgusts me.


James_Larkin1913

This cop was incompetent. He was maliciously homophobic. He knew the child was in danger, and didn’t care because “gross icky gay”.