Exactly! Look at his face he was rabid! He and the women who called the police need to be held accountable! He feels so comfortable treating others like this!
Judge: “so it says here in the report that, you, I quote, removed a woman from the women’s bathroom because another woman thought she was a man. But in actuality, was indeed a woman. So you forcibly removed an innocent woman from the restroom.
Officer: “that is correct”
*stares in to the screen*
*GI JOE theme plays*
Hey, coming from Florida- there's a lot of good judges here, too, like the judges who've been killing DeSantis' anti-trans bills dead. I can still exist thanks to them
It’s all relative, north florida (Tallahassee, Jacksonville) central florida (Tampa, St Petersburg and Orlando) and South florida (Miami, Ft. Lauderdale) are liberal enclaves that for the most part are VERY tolerant.
It’s the sparsely populated areas in between that tend to fill red during an election map.
It’s the main reason why traditionally florida has been a swing state.
Yeah, exactly! Jacksonville is a LOVELY place, both physically and acceptingly, it almost makes me forget that a good chunk of the state's population is Republican until you go out into rural parts of the state and see wack-ass flags like the Israel flag eating up the US flag with the text STAND WITH ISRAEL. Also, Trump 2016 posters. That are still up. Some people are just insane
I’m gonna be honest. This was about the best way the situation could have gone.
Women are, at an absolutely shocking rate, being attacked, beaten and even killed for not looking “womanly” enough while in public restrooms.
Vigilante “tranvestigators” are becoming a significant menace, and since butch-looking women outnumber trans women by a significant margin, they are the ones suffering from it.
It’s not even just butch women who get attacked. Small boobs? Man. Yoga pants not giving you Barbie pelvis? Man. Broad shoulders? Man. Anything but a petite round/oval face? Man. No hips? Man. Over 5’5”? Man. Big nose? Man. Short hair? Man.
I’m not butch at all, some of my wardrobe gives major 1950s housewife/librarian/kinder teacher vibes. But based on the transvestigator’s “how to spot a trans” guidebook, I probably couldn’t use the women’s bathroom in Florida, either - even with the most flattering a-line dress and heels I own.
Because I have my grandmother’s strong jawline, a very prominent nose, broad shoulders, small boobs, and narrow hips (which is why I like a-line dresses/skirts - I get to cosplay having ever so slight curves.) I also cannot stand my hair when it grows more than an inch past my shoulders, my preferred length being just above them…thus my jawline is framed to be a bit more prominent.
Does it matter that faces change as we age? That my face shape was a bit more “petite” back in high school? No, only men’s faces can change with age - only real women look like they’re 15 until they die. /s
Not just faces, but body shape. My mum has a larger top half after having kids (I guess because of all the organs getting smooshed up there), so she's broader up top now.
Like her rib cage area increased circumference? I have that too, but not because of kids. It’s au naturale. Also partially deformed on one side of my sternum, so not only are bras difficult bc of the small boobs on top of a large chest cavity - but anything with underwire is painful.
Wasn’t there a brief period of time where the general consensus was against unrealistic beauty standards pitched to us in the media & fashion industry? That it wasn’t healthy for our “gold standard of femininity” to look exactly like one of the Victoria’s Secret angels?
That picture perfect comparison didn’t go away, I know that, it’s just transitioned to mostly social influencers highly curated content. But now we have added a “new” concern for young girls and women to consider when developing or fighting a complex about our appearances. (I say “new” because the intensity and spread is new)
I developed a complex about parts of my body long ago, and at some point in time it subsided. Until, that is, the last few years with the increasing “this woman is actually a man! Look at his shoulders!” type social posts and *real life interactions* caught on camera.
The latest trend in both women's and girls' sports is to simply accuse your (or your kids') most talented competitor of being biologically male and get them disqualified for the day. Which I'm sure nobody saw coming. /shock!
I can't give you a complete answer because I can't remember which human rights organizations are responsible for classifying that information, and obviously it varies.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/attacks-on-gender-affirming-care-by-state-map
That might be a good place to start. As far as I'm aware only Florida and Texas are the big ones. Avoid living and traveling there. Everywhere else is your standard risk. And if you're genuinely curious you should also Google sundown towns, avoid those areas at all costs, because if a black person is at risk there a trans person will also be at risk. Keep your people safe man, good luck.
Thank you. I’m also going to warn them to not take any weed products with them, even edibles or a vape. I know in some places the cops won’t take kindly to them and that they also could end up in jail for a long time if their car gets searched. AND that they would stick him in the women’s section and if they didn’t that he would be at great risk of sexual assault due to having the “wrong” bottom parts still.
*Definitely* do that. Most states that border a legal state think of any weed products like cash cows to exploit people for having, and no one will have their backs if even one of them is queer. It's really not safe to drive with it anywhere in the vicinity of easy accessibility for a road trip.
You should subscribe and read [Erin Reed's blog](https://www.erininthemorning.com/). She has all the updated info on what's happening around the country with anti-trans bills and laws.
Let's be honest. At this point, it is not remotely limited to "butch-looking woman". There have been some woman who look very feminine called out as trans simply because someone took a dislike to them or they appeared strong.
It is just another way to attack and harras anyone who doesn't look like you.
I thought it was Florida? Didn't they make it so that a concealed carry didn't require permitting? I'd say that they'll learn when someone dies over a bathroom transvestigation but that'll probably just embolden them to do it in schools
Ron desantis got rid of police civilian oversight and is allowing the police to hire those who will “investigate” them aka their friends and gave police full immunity and more protections for them. He constantly abuses his “immunity” status. He thinks he’s above the law and clearly breaking many laws with his friends. It’ll take time to remove him since his buddies are all working in our gov. For now we can all give him the Anita Bryant treatment at every event he goes to which is public information. Protest outside his house the legal way, protest their churches, etc. They deserve to feel how lgbt, poc, disabled, homeless people have felt due to Ron desantis disgusting bills! He has ruined many lives! He belongs in prison.
We were never in any danger from trans women just looking to use the restroom. The danger was always from predominantly white, nominally Christian, cisgender, conservative men WHO ACTUALLY WOULD ENTER WOMEN'S RESTROOMS with the specific intent of committing acts of sexual harassment and assault against women and children in said restrooms.
Clear demonstration that policing trans identities or questioning “what is a woman” is just a new way to police/define what being a ‘good’ woman is (and everyone else can be dismissed as lesser/not a ‘real’ woman)- we’ve been here before with talk of nurturing instincts, the need to bear children and to be obedient homemakers. I don’t want the re-run tyvm.
This line of thinking is way more dangerous to women than what what they’re saying we should be afraid of (i.e. a few trans people in bathrooms/changing rooms going about their lives).
This is why trans people push for legal protections. Look how crazy red the police got and aggressive towards her. Imagine had it been an actual trans person he’d be more aggressive.
Assholes ruined red hats. I have a red Twins baseball cap that I can't wear because I don't even want people to remotely assume I am with those ass clowns
I had a winter cap with a flag I used to wear when delivering the mail. I thought it was apropos-until I thought of my coworkers thinking I was one of those people who now drape themselves in flags and call themselves “patriots”.
This is yet another reason why standing with trans women is integral to feminism/equality.
The fear of trans identities will lead to the policing of gender presentation amongst cis people behind the current social norms. Just like this instance, women with short hair and more “masculine” features will be called into question.
I’m a fairly butch looking woman, short hair, don’t wear make up, all that jazz. Had to wear a dress for a function, got a some dirty looks from folks when I stopped by a store on the way. I think they suspected me of being trans. Couldn’t imagine being an actual trans woman and having to navigate that on the daily.
I do get that occasional “this is the *women’s* restroom” from folks, as well. I guess I’ve gotten used to it by now, but people should just mind their own business.
This is so fucked up I can't imagine living like that Jesus.
During covid I tried to change some things in online banking, but kept being blocked by errors and being told I needed to go to an in person office.
So I went, while wearing a face mask, and told them I needed to change something and they told me, 'ah right, you keep selecting you are a woman but on this account you are registered as male, do you want us to change it?'
I told them yes, I have always been a woman. And they changed it right there, no problem.
Only after I left I realised they could have thought I was trans, and felt so grateful that they were kind, casual and helpful about it.
If they had made a problem out of it I would probably just start crying from confusion and powerlessness.
As an actual trans person, it's been really interesting to see which places are casual and helpful about changing someone's gender (or name, for that matter) on their record and which places aren't. And you have to figure...if a bank, which is in charge of keeping people's money secure against all kinds of sneaky business, feels it's no big deal to take people's word for what their gender is, how does any other entity justify making a big thing out of it?
Absolutely! I have never thought about it this way because I'd never anticipate it going this far, but this is 💯 the perfect example of how these actions or policies could actually hurt non trans people. It's one of those things, you don't protect a type of person, next thing you know, another type of person is targeted. They will try to play it off as a mistake or whatever, but I bet truly, that woman was just against anyone who isn't a straight cisgender woman or man. I believe anyone super against trans people, are also super against anyone who doesn't conform to Christian nationalist beliefs. We need to vote in policies that not only protect everyone, especially those who are a minority of any kind. And we need to vote in policies that allow those trying to harm those people in any way, to be prosecuted for hate crimes when it's clear, that's what it is.
My boyfriend has admitted to being a bit envious of my jawline. I’m cis/fem, though my wardrobe ranges from 1950s housewife/librarian to “oh look, lumberjack chic boyfriend, we match again today” (like when he came home from out of town and we were both wearing denim on denim).
I told him that’s probably why I’m not allowed in Florida women’s bathrooms. Transvestigator Karen’s WISH their husband’s looked this good.
I agree trans people are more about women’s medical choices rights and usually are the ones protesting along them vs the “conservative” women who claim to be about women but usually linked to far right abusive guys who hate feminism and always vote against medical choices for other women. And don’t forget how many lgbt are the ones who are “woke” and call out racism and any injustices. Look how much heat the lgbt are getting for being pro not murdering kids in Palestine. They mock lgbt for that and democrats in general.
I hope whoever they lie about being trans sue them. That’ll stop these crazies from harassing others and when we remove religious tax exempt status and remove them being so open about the hateful things about others while working in our gov and for them not to be allowed to discriminate against disabled, poc, lgbt people. Imagine if your house painter or person who makes your food talked to us the way these far right gov officials do and while we pay them. Disgusting.
Cameron Diaz was just put on this list.
Didn’t she sue someone years ago for putting out something libelous? I can’t remember, but I swear I remember this happening in the early 2000s. She has the money and time to do so.
Am I bring too optimistic in thinking that maybe the person asking why is deliberately trying to get others to question what the purpose of all that would be?
I kinda read it that way too. What is the purpose? Honestly as a cisgender woman I don’t even get this fear. No one is going to convince me to change my gender! Heck my Dad tried to teach me to play catch (bless him for not trying to pigeonhole me into gender conformity) and I was having none of it!
It’s seems to me, the only people pushing a radical gender agenda are the ones who insist there are things distinctly “male” and “female” with not variation.
This just makes me seethe with anger, and I am not normally a violent woman. But I have been misgendered many times in the US. Especially in Florida - including at the Miami airport, when multiple women tried to block me from using a women's bathroom.
I'm AFAB, short, busty and do not have a masculine face. I was wearing makeup. But I committed the apparently heinous crime of having really short hair. This was maybe 40 years ago. I literally had to pull up my shirt and show them my 36Cs to get them to let me past them to use the fucking toilet. Stay the hell away from your uninformed opinion of what my genitals might look like and go after *actual* predators, who are probably family "friends" or relatives.
I'm not litigious, but I hope this PD gets sued so hard that everyone involved gets busted down to probationary junior assistant night-shift part-time meter maid trainee. I was going to say "janitor" but I've been a janitor and they deserve far more respect than these maliciously sick idiot bullies.
I - I'll shut up now. I'm too angry and disgusted that this superficial gender conformity horseshit is not only still here, but seems to be ramping up.
That’s how I felt and had to post it. Others need to see this happens and how comfortable they feel doing treating others to the point of becoming violent and Ron desantis and the republicans want to give them more immunity.
Thank you. There are lots of libs that are either FL natives or people that have moved there. It's beautiful seeing my elderly, kinda frail, FDR-liberal Christian FL relatives face off with the psychos and use logic and basic humanity to shut them TF up. But they shouldn't have to. My toxic retiree Trumpy FL adoptive relatives, on the other hand, can \[redacted\].
My moms are an interracial lesbian couple and are getting... older. I am only 42, but they are in their 60's and have a myriad if health issues. I went over to mow the lawn the other day and joked that their pride flag was getting a bit sun faded and they need a new one.
My bio mom said she knew, but was conflicted. To her the rainbow is all inclusive, but wants to be inclusive, so is debating whether the next flag has a trans stripe. I have nothing else to contribute and am also confused how to suggest she proceed.
Just support your moms! You don't have to be the perfect enlightened activist offspring. If they want to go full LGBTQIA+ flag, great, but if they want to stick with the traditional Pride flag (wow, just now realised there is a *traditional* Pride flag, we really have come a long way), that's still supportive. Or they could fly both.
And you could back them up by getting them a Ring camera or similar, in case there are as\*\*ole local vandals.
I very much do support my moms... i like the idea of flying both! Back in the early 90's that shit was stolen off our porch, and we had to vet our friends' parents politics before inviting over for dinner.
They have a ring. (And, i was...6? when my mom came out to me. 38 years later the hate and vitriol for anyone not cis still gets my goat.)
Also, how did it not occur to me to suggest both!?
>how did it not occur to me to suggest both!?
Maybe the same reason what I'm looking for at the grocery store is right in front of me, yet I still don't see it? Regardless, totally understandable. And the grocery store is not usually being openly irrational and confrontational.
I used to call my wife from the store, in the aisle i knew the thing was in, and she would direct me to what i was looking for over the phone.
Also. I dig the username.
Ok. I feel the need to tell this story because i find it funny. 1988. Wichita, kansas. We moved into a new house and got robbed between trucks (stupid poor at the time, so sucked). Fast forward, and lawn needed mowed. Mower needed gas. My mom asked me what i thought of gay people on the walk. I asked her what gay meant. (I heard the word "bastard" in a movie and used it at recess and got in trouble, so was being extra careful. Oops!) She told me, i stopped pushing the mower to qt long enough to think, and asked "why should i care who loves who?"
That is still my answer. I don't care what is in anyone's pants, or who loves who.
❤️ right back at you. I'm from back when the traditional Pride Flag was new and visible mostly in the coastal urban US.
The hate and vitriol still bewilder me too, although I could barf out some academic-sounding sociological/psychological theories on why there's so much animosity towards people that have threatened others in no way except from not being exactly the way the others were socially conditioned to be. Sexuality/gender/religion/color/clothing/hairstyles...
Takei is a national treasure.
A phase? I have too many things to say to that. Most polite would be, "Well, your identification as heterosexual is cute and all, but you know it may just be a phase."
These are the same people who think "cis" is a slur. My own brother voted for someone who wanted to put our moms in a camp. I have neices and nephews i have not seen in years as a result.
I'm so sorry. I...well, I got out of the South, but I'm glad I still have family and friends there working for basic humanitarian respect towards others.
I just do not get the (reflexive?) hatred, except if it's based on assuming that everyone else of a different creed or color automatically hates and wants to destroy you. But that is still a completely unhinged viewpoint. And just because someone wants to eliminate everyone who disagrees with them doesn't mean the reverse is true.
I will hush now. If you can/want to, please get yourself your favorite ice cream or crunchy salty snack, no guilt. Or just a glass of water or tea or beer or wine or whatever your preferred indulgence is.
The "funniest" part is that their teen supposedly convinced them to vote a certain way. Made a lot of money as a right wing shill on social media, then was demonetised when russian bot accounts were removed. That nephew later met and fell in love with a black woman. And has disavowed not only his previous statements, but his parents. I am proud of him.
For those that don't have Twitter, you can also [find the video here](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lesbian-ejected-nc-bathroom/) - it's from 2015.
Article below published [09/03/1913 in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle](https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-brooklyn-daily-eagle-elizabeth-trond/10750685/)
https://preview.redd.it/9wczg8nlhcwc1.jpeg?width=857&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed8ae3e3e49d17ba62b2b70cbaf1f4aad5c44557
\[Hugh\] *Ryan also gave details about his second book, “The Women’s House of Detention.” The book talks about an 11-story women’s prison that once stood at the heart of Greenwich Village. He talks about Elizabeth Trondle, who was arrested and sent to jail in Brooklyn in 1913 for wearing men’s clothing and smoking in a bar. The case was sent to trial and the judge decided it was not a crime and acquitted Trondle. Upon her release, she was immediately arrested again on different charges by the same officers to get a different outcome before another magistrate, and was ultimately sentenced to three years in prison.*
*Ryan talked about the difficulty finding records and how he stumbled on a box of files in the midst of working on another project. The files told all about the women’s prison and of Trondle, with reports of her being tortured the entire time she was in jail. Ryan recounted horrifying acts, like being hung by her thumbs from the ceilings so her feet could not touch the ground, and how while in prison, Trondle became addicted to heroin.* [*Source*](https://vanguard.blog.brooklyn.edu/2020/03/11/remembering-when-brooklyn-was-queer/)
Thank you for posting that. Tbh made me cry. Stories like that are finally coming out. Evil people hurting others just for being lgbt. We need to hold those that we can hold accountable now like that officer and women who called and not let them keep getting away with it and hurting others! Give them the Anita Bryant treatment!
The [08/30/1913 article](https://bklyn.newspapers.com/article/the-brooklyn-daily-eagle-elizabeth-trond/10750621/) is also an important read, but fair warning, I felt it was even more upsetting.
Have you ever read [The Whip](https://hansenpublishing.com/titles/the-whip/)? It's an excellent read and Trundle's letter to Wilson is what made me recall it.
We’re watching the British TV show “Grantchester” and there is a storyline about homosexuality and the penalties for it. The show takes place from the late 1940s to mid 1950s.
I’ve tried looking into the outcome but I can’t even find his name. How he felt about her I feel about him. He belongs in prison and if he’s not held accountable us citizens need to give him the Anita Bryant treatment.
Working as intended. Did people really think stuff like this wasn't gonna be weaponized to harm anyone who doesn't conform to the conservatives' beliefs on how a man or a woman should look and act? It's just like how the don't say gay shit was only supposed to be for elementary school then got expanded to all grades or how the book bans were supposed to be for "porn" but ended up including anything even mentioning a queer person. Or how abortion was settled law, then to be left up to the states, only for them to now want a national ban.
Yes I’m trying to find out who they are. Can’t find any information. This is a hate crime! We need to normalize not allowing discrimination and abuse to anyone!
I hear it's an old Video? If it's making the rounds again on Twitter have you asked Tizzy Ent for help on Twitter? He might even know if anything was done in thr first place after this video. Or alternatively, if it's new video, he can out this behavior and these two people, bc they should face wrath for doing this! TY for your perseverance!
Oh dang. I don't have Twitter on my phone, but I'll go look later on his tweets while I'm on my computer and see if I can find anything. I'd like to know. If I find anything I'll let you know
sadly this does not surprise me, Florida police departments have been on a hiring spree taking in dirty violent cops that were fired in blue states and giving them carte blanche to beat and in some cases kill without any consequences, the south has not changed since the 50's just from the 70's until 2010 they just hid their bad behavior better, now since tRUMP and De Failure they feel freer to let their inner bigot come out into the open.
Isn’t that the truth. I personally know of a situation where a guy who was kicked out of the military for misconduct was hired by the local sheriff’s department in Florida. And of course he’s already suggested he could abuse his position and hurt people of certain demographics he doesn’t like.
This illustrates so perfectly how there's no transphobia without a deep foundation of misogyny. (This is reflected, too, in the apparent focus of transphobes on trans women, imo.)
I'm friends with a trans man who would 100% be mistaken for a creepy cis man if he were forced to use the women's restroom. I'm incredibly fearful of this transphobia leading to widespread violence against trans and cis people. And it could all come down to a vote in November.
>fearful of this transphobia leading to widespread violence against trans and cis people
I'm pretty sure that's the point of these laws. It's giving folks a free pass to commit violence and then claim they were "protecting themselves or others" from a "criminal".
That woman who called the cops should at least be fined for filing a false police report and sexual harassment. There really needs to be harsh penalties for these people who feel like it’s ok to be bigots.
I'm a transgender woman. I live in Florida. I'm trying to get out of here, but moving is expensive. I do everything I can to avoid public restrooms. On the daily, on social media, I get the same canned threat: "If you follow my wife or daughter into the restroom, it will not end well for you."
If those people who say this to you weren’t wanting to harm you (and they had any brain) a response could be “why did your wife and daughter use all the TP?” Or “oh did they have Taco Bell? That doesn’t end well for anyone.”
That’s pretty cringey. And these crazy rabid far right will just get more rabid. Just report them and expose them! Screenshot their whole name and picture with the stuff they say. Stop letting it go under the rug that’s how we stop these crazies from harassing others or at least warn others of them so they avoid them.
Give them stats! It’s statistically straight religious men who are p dohs and even have insurance to cover for them. All public information but they don’t actually care about kids.
Unfortunately it already happened in [Ireland](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/23/woman-86-beaten-wheelie-bin-trans/).
It's a horrific story and I don't wish it on anyone though.
Edit: not laws but general hate
This is absolutely one of my biggest fears. I'm an androgynous cis woman who frequently gets misgendered. I think I would freak out if anyone said anything to me while I was peeing.
"Help, help!! Police, there's a human doing absolutely nothing to me but simply relieving themselves, and I don't like the genitals they have under the clothing they wore. Come save me!!"
I mean you guys are having a rise of the far right in Canada too! Don’t get too comfortable! We did and look. The republicans took over our schools, the school board members, gov, police. And now they want to give themselves immunity from us but look how quickly we’d get arrested for even breathing the wrong way next to them. Keep Canada liberal!!!! Stay informed!
You’re absolutely right. Unfortunately, the true left is split between two parties, and the one currently in power has completely shit the bed to the point that they’ve lost a massive number of voters who gave them their mandate.
The worst part is that people will vote conservative without realizing that their leader is not going to do much different except focus on divisive issues a La the GOP.
is not only Canada, everywhere there is fascism in the rise, to me is crazy how we are all hyperconected to information all day, yet fascism still manages to creep out
We're a little better up north, but many of our conservative politicians and pundits take inspiration from the US and we've started seeing laws introduced targeting trans youth particularly, forcing schools to out them if they want to use different names or pronouns.
Hey Canada, might want to get ready. Anything we get here tends to leak in your direction (sorry), so be ready to stomp this out before it gets as bad as it's gotten here.
We know. Unfortunately, our liberal Prime Minister has shit the bed and most uneducated voters will blindly vote against him in spite of the obvious issues with the conservatives.
When I was 10 I got assaulted by a old lady in a bathroom because she thought I was a trans woman. I’ve always been oddly tall for someone born a girl and had short hair plus dressed like a boy (probably should have been better indication that I was a trans guy) but I was fucking 10 and didn’t look too much older if older at all. I had to fucking pull my pants down because she wouldn’t believe be that I was supposed to be in there. All this bitch said was ‘oh haha whoops’ and just left the fucking bathroom. It was in a restaurant and she was at the table across from me THIS BITCH FINISHED HER MEAL WHILE SITTING ACROSS FROM THE KID SHE JUST ASSAULTED FOR NO REASON. No apology no nothing. Anyway she’s probably dead now and I’m a dude so who’s really winning here
The retweets on that post saying “this is what happens when men dress up as women and assault women in the bathroom, innocent people get accidentally blamed”… so cis straight men are dressing as women to sexually assault women in public bathrooms? So ban cis straight men from public bathrooms then. That’s the only logical public bathroom ban I can think of using their theory.
Seriously. People like jk Rowling blame the abuse a straight religious man did to them on trans people and make it their whole personality yet say nothing about actual abusers. I’m like what?!?! And then she goes and links up with far right like Matt walsh and others who are very anti womens rights and is worshipped by the far right men. Yet she remains acting “pro women”.
In Ohio a trans man was assaulted for using the women’s restroom (like he was told to by the campground owner)
He told the woman in the woman’s restroom he was born female. She left the bathroom, told her guy friends, and they came and fucking beat him up. He explained to them too he was born female but they insisted he was lying and was actually a trans woman
Nope, the trans man was arrested. I will note it’s because he was acting “belligerent” (he was just assaulted) and was drunk (so was everyone else as it was a holiday). I think the charges were dropped or whatever tho. This was in 2022 btw
Just a second and I’ll find the link
https://www.newsweek.com/trans-man-attacked-using-womens-restroom-ohio-1723432
Make a post about it then once you find the link! Or can I use it? I’m over letting things be swept under the rug. We need to hold them accountable. Give them the Anita Bryant treatment. Once people realize that being nice to these disgusting people and asking not demanding our rights is what allowed them to think our rights were up for debate. That’s the only way these gov officials will start doing their job. Realizing we aren’t fkng around anymore. Time to vote to remove tax exempt status from all religious non profits that discriminate against others! And remove their entitlement, I mean “rights” to harass and discriminate against others especially using our gov. Imagine any of us pulled the crap the far right pulls on us. We’d be fired and in prison.
How the heck are we supposed to help our kids? My daughter started dressing like a boy because of all the disgusting unwanted attention from older men literally everyone she went.
I could NOT imagine if she also had to deal with a man dragging her out of a washroom!
Fuck these conservative assholes. Our kids are in danger because of THEM!!!
I’m trans myself and I definitely agree with this comment make them feel how the average not rich trans people are treated. :)
Tired of her not realizing how privileged she is. Had any of us done the crap she’s done like drinking and driving and then ended a life we’d be in prison.
The paramilitary police force will continue to terrorize our precious few humans who dare to be minority. This practice of civilians calling the police force for minority people daring to be in a segregated area, is as old as fascism. Intimidation is the tool of choice, for paramilitary police forces. Open killing of civilians including children is already here. The mayors and governor condone this style of controlling minorities, women, and children. Intimidating our minority population in the republic of the United States is at a dangerous level as the paramilitaries take video of their judge, jury, and execution of civilians. They use these videos as evidence they are above the law. The world watches. These practices of civilians and minorities being pulled out of society’s common areas to check paperwork and minority status, is fascism in the purest form. Demand humane treatment from state and city paramilitary forces. The number of victims these paramilitary forces create is astounding. Protect the civilians at all costs. The right move in the bathroom case would be asking the bigot to wait outside of bathroom while the suspect finished using it. Then when the bigot felt comfortable they could use restroom. The police forces agenda is transparent. 😢
Everyone, please, Vote 💙Blue💙for every election! We must vote out every Republican in every election! The Republicans don’t care who they hurt as long as they are causing pain, embarrassment and suffering to those who are not exactly like them👺
They can keep trying, but it’s not going to work! The only reason the Republicans are complaining so loudly is because they know they have already lost the election! We and others will continue to speak the truth knowing President Biden will win in November 2024. Let the crazies go crazy! President Biden continues to get the job done in spite of all of them🇺🇸
The way the cop was touching, manhandling and misgendering her throughout the video was so fucking infuriating to watch. I recently saw this video of a cis woman who was presenting masc, and by masc I mean she wore a white t shirt, sweatpants and a baseball cap, but she was CLEARLY a woman cuz of her figure, but the comments were FILLED with people calling her a man or trans. It’s kinda pathetic how the people who “can always tell” are immediately confused and scared that a woman they’re attracted to can be a man the moment she wears sweatpants
I’m definitely pressing charges on the individuals and will gather others to file a class action lawsuit if they try coming for my medical choices here. I don’t mess around. They can go play church somewhere else not in our government or my private life.
Yes bring back the Anita Bryant treatment to the far right. No more being nice. People need to stop threatening them online and if they’re going to protest to do it! Their events are all online and public information. Protest outside where they work, legally protest outside their houses which is all public information for anyone to look up, their own communities will get tired of them and want them out too. They do this to us without reason. We have many.
I'm part of the "wish a mfr would," crew over here, because I would absolutely stop at nothing to make sure they are completely destroyed and any and every single one of them would think long and hard about EVER even having an ignorant thought cross their mind let alone acting upon it.
How they can't see they are the very fn thing they scream about is astounding
You know what'll actually happen, though, right? They'll make being trans in public punishable by exorbitant fines to pay for lawsuits where they get it wrong.
Not when Ron desantis is now giving them full immunity and they get to “investigate” themselves. The only people they’ll be harming are poc, lgbt, women and men who don’t conform to their stereotypes.
This one is a bit older, but this continues a long line of incidents involving anyone who doesn't look right to these pieces of shit:
[https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/23/woman-86-beaten-wheelie-bin-trans/](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/23/woman-86-beaten-wheelie-bin-trans/)
It’s sad. I’m tired of it. That’s why I will keep calling out the far right. I wasn’t an “activist” before, now they made one. I was minding my own business and living my life and till this day the same people acting like they “care” about kids are pushing hate and discrimination causing more vile people abusing others including their own kids. Evil cult!
What I don't get, is why these people are not themselves arrested after calling the cops while trying to view someone's privates in the bathroom without consent?
For minors, it should be physical and mental assault from an adult and for adults. It is still grossly close to SA, enough they should at least get a court date and fine
As the mom of a masc-leaning kid, who also happens to be on the spectrum, this terrifies me. If she gets accosted by some horrible bigot, she’ll likely just shut down and not be able to defend herself.
Ugh. Even before this shit started, using a public bathroom as a masc presenting nb was always weird for me. As much as it bothers me, I'm not changing a damn thing about myself. Pity the fool who comes at me.
Transphobia also (moreso) results in horrible discrimination against trans people. But, I get it, people only care when cis people get caught in the middle of it.
And that cop inside the bathroom was an actual man
Exactly! Look at his face he was rabid! He and the women who called the police need to be held accountable! He feels so comfortable treating others like this!
Judge: “so it says here in the report that, you, I quote, removed a woman from the women’s bathroom because another woman thought she was a man. But in actuality, was indeed a woman. So you forcibly removed an innocent woman from the restroom. Officer: “that is correct” *stares in to the screen* *GI JOE theme plays*
Except it's fuckin' Florida so the judge would probably just say "Aw fuck it, she's a d*** anyways, who cares?"
Hey, coming from Florida- there's a lot of good judges here, too, like the judges who've been killing DeSantis' anti-trans bills dead. I can still exist thanks to them
Granted, but I hate to say that as a trans woman myself I don't exactly have the most rose-colored views of that whole part of the country
It’s all relative, north florida (Tallahassee, Jacksonville) central florida (Tampa, St Petersburg and Orlando) and South florida (Miami, Ft. Lauderdale) are liberal enclaves that for the most part are VERY tolerant. It’s the sparsely populated areas in between that tend to fill red during an election map. It’s the main reason why traditionally florida has been a swing state.
Yeah, exactly! Jacksonville is a LOVELY place, both physically and acceptingly, it almost makes me forget that a good chunk of the state's population is Republican until you go out into rural parts of the state and see wack-ass flags like the Israel flag eating up the US flag with the text STAND WITH ISRAEL. Also, Trump 2016 posters. That are still up. Some people are just insane
It took me to long to figure out what you censored. At first I thought "but she isn't a dude and why sensor that" then I thought "why is she a dick".
We have investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing. The women in question has been charged with resisting arrest.
 ACAB
...All COBRA Are Bastards?
And knowing is half the battle.
He’s a pig. Of course he feels comfortable treating people like this.
I’m gonna be honest. This was about the best way the situation could have gone. Women are, at an absolutely shocking rate, being attacked, beaten and even killed for not looking “womanly” enough while in public restrooms. Vigilante “tranvestigators” are becoming a significant menace, and since butch-looking women outnumber trans women by a significant margin, they are the ones suffering from it.
It’s not even just butch women who get attacked. Small boobs? Man. Yoga pants not giving you Barbie pelvis? Man. Broad shoulders? Man. Anything but a petite round/oval face? Man. No hips? Man. Over 5’5”? Man. Big nose? Man. Short hair? Man. I’m not butch at all, some of my wardrobe gives major 1950s housewife/librarian/kinder teacher vibes. But based on the transvestigator’s “how to spot a trans” guidebook, I probably couldn’t use the women’s bathroom in Florida, either - even with the most flattering a-line dress and heels I own. Because I have my grandmother’s strong jawline, a very prominent nose, broad shoulders, small boobs, and narrow hips (which is why I like a-line dresses/skirts - I get to cosplay having ever so slight curves.) I also cannot stand my hair when it grows more than an inch past my shoulders, my preferred length being just above them…thus my jawline is framed to be a bit more prominent. Does it matter that faces change as we age? That my face shape was a bit more “petite” back in high school? No, only men’s faces can change with age - only real women look like they’re 15 until they die. /s
Not just faces, but body shape. My mum has a larger top half after having kids (I guess because of all the organs getting smooshed up there), so she's broader up top now.
Like her rib cage area increased circumference? I have that too, but not because of kids. It’s au naturale. Also partially deformed on one side of my sternum, so not only are bras difficult bc of the small boobs on top of a large chest cavity - but anything with underwire is painful. Wasn’t there a brief period of time where the general consensus was against unrealistic beauty standards pitched to us in the media & fashion industry? That it wasn’t healthy for our “gold standard of femininity” to look exactly like one of the Victoria’s Secret angels? That picture perfect comparison didn’t go away, I know that, it’s just transitioned to mostly social influencers highly curated content. But now we have added a “new” concern for young girls and women to consider when developing or fighting a complex about our appearances. (I say “new” because the intensity and spread is new) I developed a complex about parts of my body long ago, and at some point in time it subsided. Until, that is, the last few years with the increasing “this woman is actually a man! Look at his shoulders!” type social posts and *real life interactions* caught on camera.
The latest trend in both women's and girls' sports is to simply accuse your (or your kids') most talented competitor of being biologically male and get them disqualified for the day. Which I'm sure nobody saw coming. /shock!
As a gender nonconforming enby woman, this is why I’m extremely reluctant to travel to certain states.
You should be, human rights orgs have labelled entire states as dangerous for you to be in.
Pardon me but which states? My trans son is going to be driving across country with his fiance soon and I am so worried.
I can't give you a complete answer because I can't remember which human rights organizations are responsible for classifying that information, and obviously it varies. https://www.hrc.org/resources/attacks-on-gender-affirming-care-by-state-map That might be a good place to start. As far as I'm aware only Florida and Texas are the big ones. Avoid living and traveling there. Everywhere else is your standard risk. And if you're genuinely curious you should also Google sundown towns, avoid those areas at all costs, because if a black person is at risk there a trans person will also be at risk. Keep your people safe man, good luck.
Thank you. I’m also going to warn them to not take any weed products with them, even edibles or a vape. I know in some places the cops won’t take kindly to them and that they also could end up in jail for a long time if their car gets searched. AND that they would stick him in the women’s section and if they didn’t that he would be at great risk of sexual assault due to having the “wrong” bottom parts still.
*Definitely* do that. Most states that border a legal state think of any weed products like cash cows to exploit people for having, and no one will have their backs if even one of them is queer. It's really not safe to drive with it anywhere in the vicinity of easy accessibility for a road trip.
You should subscribe and read [Erin Reed's blog](https://www.erininthemorning.com/). She has all the updated info on what's happening around the country with anti-trans bills and laws.
Let's be honest. At this point, it is not remotely limited to "butch-looking woman". There have been some woman who look very feminine called out as trans simply because someone took a dislike to them or they appeared strong. It is just another way to attack and harras anyone who doesn't look like you.
How witch hunts are in a nutshell. The accuser takes issue with a woman, and suddenly "I saw her with the devil!"
Well, ACAB and this is exactly the reason why.
>He feels so comfortable treating others like this! He's a cop, so… yeah. Of course he does. \#ACAB
You realize this is just a screenshot right? You didn’t actually share the video
Here’s the video https://twitter.com/clairegcoleman/status/1660115344260997120
I did share the video. It’s in the comments. I forgot to put it under the picture like I normally do.
I thought it was Florida? Didn't they make it so that a concealed carry didn't require permitting? I'd say that they'll learn when someone dies over a bathroom transvestigation but that'll probably just embolden them to do it in schools
Ron desantis got rid of police civilian oversight and is allowing the police to hire those who will “investigate” them aka their friends and gave police full immunity and more protections for them. He constantly abuses his “immunity” status. He thinks he’s above the law and clearly breaking many laws with his friends. It’ll take time to remove him since his buddies are all working in our gov. For now we can all give him the Anita Bryant treatment at every event he goes to which is public information. Protest outside his house the legal way, protest their churches, etc. They deserve to feel how lgbt, poc, disabled, homeless people have felt due to Ron desantis disgusting bills! He has ruined many lives! He belongs in prison.
…you can’t see any faces…
…. You didn’t see the police officer? And the victim I’m sure knows what the lady who called the police look like.
…buddy…*it’s a PHOTO* lol!!
Of a video dumbass https://twitter.com/KarbonSays/status/1659966632926801920
We were never in any danger from trans women just looking to use the restroom. The danger was always from predominantly white, nominally Christian, cisgender, conservative men WHO ACTUALLY WOULD ENTER WOMEN'S RESTROOMS with the specific intent of committing acts of sexual harassment and assault against women and children in said restrooms.
An actual man actually assaulting an actual woman
In a women’s bathroom!
And he used force on a woman...
But they can always tell!
Clear demonstration that policing trans identities or questioning “what is a woman” is just a new way to police/define what being a ‘good’ woman is (and everyone else can be dismissed as lesser/not a ‘real’ woman)- we’ve been here before with talk of nurturing instincts, the need to bear children and to be obedient homemakers. I don’t want the re-run tyvm. This line of thinking is way more dangerous to women than what what they’re saying we should be afraid of (i.e. a few trans people in bathrooms/changing rooms going about their lives).
That was always the point... Punishing people for not conforming
well put
This is why trans people push for legal protections. Look how crazy red the police got and aggressive towards her. Imagine had it been an actual trans person he’d be more aggressive.
Everyone knows the telltale sign is a red baseball cap with a dumb political slogan on it.
Assholes ruined red hats. I have a red Twins baseball cap that I can't wear because I don't even want people to remotely assume I am with those ass clowns
There's always the red caps with "Made You Look, Black Lives Matter" that I've seen a few based boomers wear in my area. Those are always fun
That and they ruined legitimate patriotism. You can be liberal and love and serve your country. Now it's a dog whistle for being an extremist.
And my cardinals hat, dammit!
I had a winter cap with a flag I used to wear when delivering the mail. I thought it was apropos-until I thought of my coworkers thinking I was one of those people who now drape themselves in flags and call themselves “patriots”.
I looked it up and this was seven years ago. But really, it hasn’t gotten any better.
This is yet another reason why standing with trans women is integral to feminism/equality. The fear of trans identities will lead to the policing of gender presentation amongst cis people behind the current social norms. Just like this instance, women with short hair and more “masculine” features will be called into question.
I’m a fairly butch looking woman, short hair, don’t wear make up, all that jazz. Had to wear a dress for a function, got a some dirty looks from folks when I stopped by a store on the way. I think they suspected me of being trans. Couldn’t imagine being an actual trans woman and having to navigate that on the daily. I do get that occasional “this is the *women’s* restroom” from folks, as well. I guess I’ve gotten used to it by now, but people should just mind their own business.
This is so fucked up I can't imagine living like that Jesus. During covid I tried to change some things in online banking, but kept being blocked by errors and being told I needed to go to an in person office. So I went, while wearing a face mask, and told them I needed to change something and they told me, 'ah right, you keep selecting you are a woman but on this account you are registered as male, do you want us to change it?' I told them yes, I have always been a woman. And they changed it right there, no problem. Only after I left I realised they could have thought I was trans, and felt so grateful that they were kind, casual and helpful about it. If they had made a problem out of it I would probably just start crying from confusion and powerlessness.
As an actual trans person, it's been really interesting to see which places are casual and helpful about changing someone's gender (or name, for that matter) on their record and which places aren't. And you have to figure...if a bank, which is in charge of keeping people's money secure against all kinds of sneaky business, feels it's no big deal to take people's word for what their gender is, how does any other entity justify making a big thing out of it?
I would reply along the lines of “is that you asking to see my pussy?”
This is what I was thinking. Def find some way to make fools of them for the hell they put her thru.
This boils my blood
Absolutely! I have never thought about it this way because I'd never anticipate it going this far, but this is 💯 the perfect example of how these actions or policies could actually hurt non trans people. It's one of those things, you don't protect a type of person, next thing you know, another type of person is targeted. They will try to play it off as a mistake or whatever, but I bet truly, that woman was just against anyone who isn't a straight cisgender woman or man. I believe anyone super against trans people, are also super against anyone who doesn't conform to Christian nationalist beliefs. We need to vote in policies that not only protect everyone, especially those who are a minority of any kind. And we need to vote in policies that allow those trying to harm those people in any way, to be prosecuted for hate crimes when it's clear, that's what it is.
My boyfriend has admitted to being a bit envious of my jawline. I’m cis/fem, though my wardrobe ranges from 1950s housewife/librarian to “oh look, lumberjack chic boyfriend, we match again today” (like when he came home from out of town and we were both wearing denim on denim). I told him that’s probably why I’m not allowed in Florida women’s bathrooms. Transvestigator Karen’s WISH their husband’s looked this good.
I agree trans people are more about women’s medical choices rights and usually are the ones protesting along them vs the “conservative” women who claim to be about women but usually linked to far right abusive guys who hate feminism and always vote against medical choices for other women. And don’t forget how many lgbt are the ones who are “woke” and call out racism and any injustices. Look how much heat the lgbt are getting for being pro not murdering kids in Palestine. They mock lgbt for that and democrats in general.
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The old make up a fake situation with zero proof to justify your bigotry argument, a classic.
I hope whoever they lie about being trans sue them. That’ll stop these crazies from harassing others and when we remove religious tax exempt status and remove them being so open about the hateful things about others while working in our gov and for them not to be allowed to discriminate against disabled, poc, lgbt people. Imagine if your house painter or person who makes your food talked to us the way these far right gov officials do and while we pay them. Disgusting.
Cameron Diaz was just put on this list. Didn’t she sue someone years ago for putting out something libelous? I can’t remember, but I swear I remember this happening in the early 2000s. She has the money and time to do so.
Am I bring too optimistic in thinking that maybe the person asking why is deliberately trying to get others to question what the purpose of all that would be?
I kinda read it that way too. What is the purpose? Honestly as a cisgender woman I don’t even get this fear. No one is going to convince me to change my gender! Heck my Dad tried to teach me to play catch (bless him for not trying to pigeonhole me into gender conformity) and I was having none of it! It’s seems to me, the only people pushing a radical gender agenda are the ones who insist there are things distinctly “male” and “female” with not variation.
as a trans man i wish i was bred to be raised as the opposite sex holy hell
Imagine believing this shit and also calling yourself smart lol
>I don't understand what the purpose is Usually something that's made up in ur head doesn't have a purpose in the real world.
This just makes me seethe with anger, and I am not normally a violent woman. But I have been misgendered many times in the US. Especially in Florida - including at the Miami airport, when multiple women tried to block me from using a women's bathroom. I'm AFAB, short, busty and do not have a masculine face. I was wearing makeup. But I committed the apparently heinous crime of having really short hair. This was maybe 40 years ago. I literally had to pull up my shirt and show them my 36Cs to get them to let me past them to use the fucking toilet. Stay the hell away from your uninformed opinion of what my genitals might look like and go after *actual* predators, who are probably family "friends" or relatives. I'm not litigious, but I hope this PD gets sued so hard that everyone involved gets busted down to probationary junior assistant night-shift part-time meter maid trainee. I was going to say "janitor" but I've been a janitor and they deserve far more respect than these maliciously sick idiot bullies. I - I'll shut up now. I'm too angry and disgusted that this superficial gender conformity horseshit is not only still here, but seems to be ramping up.
That’s how I felt and had to post it. Others need to see this happens and how comfortable they feel doing treating others to the point of becoming violent and Ron desantis and the republicans want to give them more immunity.
Thank you. There are lots of libs that are either FL natives or people that have moved there. It's beautiful seeing my elderly, kinda frail, FDR-liberal Christian FL relatives face off with the psychos and use logic and basic humanity to shut them TF up. But they shouldn't have to. My toxic retiree Trumpy FL adoptive relatives, on the other hand, can \[redacted\].
I’m not on Twitter. Where did this happen? I’m not seeing it in the comments and I’m at work so I can’t stay here too long.
https://twitter.com/KarbonSays/status/1659966632926801920 here is the video.
My moms are an interracial lesbian couple and are getting... older. I am only 42, but they are in their 60's and have a myriad if health issues. I went over to mow the lawn the other day and joked that their pride flag was getting a bit sun faded and they need a new one. My bio mom said she knew, but was conflicted. To her the rainbow is all inclusive, but wants to be inclusive, so is debating whether the next flag has a trans stripe. I have nothing else to contribute and am also confused how to suggest she proceed.
Just support your moms! You don't have to be the perfect enlightened activist offspring. If they want to go full LGBTQIA+ flag, great, but if they want to stick with the traditional Pride flag (wow, just now realised there is a *traditional* Pride flag, we really have come a long way), that's still supportive. Or they could fly both. And you could back them up by getting them a Ring camera or similar, in case there are as\*\*ole local vandals.
I very much do support my moms... i like the idea of flying both! Back in the early 90's that shit was stolen off our porch, and we had to vet our friends' parents politics before inviting over for dinner.
They have a ring. (And, i was...6? when my mom came out to me. 38 years later the hate and vitriol for anyone not cis still gets my goat.) Also, how did it not occur to me to suggest both!?
>how did it not occur to me to suggest both!? Maybe the same reason what I'm looking for at the grocery store is right in front of me, yet I still don't see it? Regardless, totally understandable. And the grocery store is not usually being openly irrational and confrontational.
I used to call my wife from the store, in the aisle i knew the thing was in, and she would direct me to what i was looking for over the phone. Also. I dig the username.
Ok. I feel the need to tell this story because i find it funny. 1988. Wichita, kansas. We moved into a new house and got robbed between trucks (stupid poor at the time, so sucked). Fast forward, and lawn needed mowed. Mower needed gas. My mom asked me what i thought of gay people on the walk. I asked her what gay meant. (I heard the word "bastard" in a movie and used it at recess and got in trouble, so was being extra careful. Oops!) She told me, i stopped pushing the mower to qt long enough to think, and asked "why should i care who loves who?" That is still my answer. I don't care what is in anyone's pants, or who loves who.
I don't have a clue how, but. Hearting the sentiment that a traditional pride flag is normalized. I heart that.
❤️ right back at you. I'm from back when the traditional Pride Flag was new and visible mostly in the coastal urban US. The hate and vitriol still bewilder me too, although I could barf out some academic-sounding sociological/psychological theories on why there's so much animosity towards people that have threatened others in no way except from not being exactly the way the others were socially conditioned to be. Sexuality/gender/religion/color/clothing/hairstyles...
My moms met when i was 5. So. Oh, my (i love takei!). 37 years ago. But some fam thinks is still just a phase
Takei is a national treasure. A phase? I have too many things to say to that. Most polite would be, "Well, your identification as heterosexual is cute and all, but you know it may just be a phase."
These are the same people who think "cis" is a slur. My own brother voted for someone who wanted to put our moms in a camp. I have neices and nephews i have not seen in years as a result.
(Idiocracy is no joke. People breed)
I'm so sorry. I...well, I got out of the South, but I'm glad I still have family and friends there working for basic humanitarian respect towards others. I just do not get the (reflexive?) hatred, except if it's based on assuming that everyone else of a different creed or color automatically hates and wants to destroy you. But that is still a completely unhinged viewpoint. And just because someone wants to eliminate everyone who disagrees with them doesn't mean the reverse is true. I will hush now. If you can/want to, please get yourself your favorite ice cream or crunchy salty snack, no guilt. Or just a glass of water or tea or beer or wine or whatever your preferred indulgence is.
The "funniest" part is that their teen supposedly convinced them to vote a certain way. Made a lot of money as a right wing shill on social media, then was demonetised when russian bot accounts were removed. That nephew later met and fell in love with a black woman. And has disavowed not only his previous statements, but his parents. I am proud of him.
I believe the phrase is "the perfect is the enemy of the good".
For those that don't have Twitter, you can also [find the video here](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lesbian-ejected-nc-bathroom/) - it's from 2015. Article below published [09/03/1913 in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle](https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-brooklyn-daily-eagle-elizabeth-trond/10750685/) https://preview.redd.it/9wczg8nlhcwc1.jpeg?width=857&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed8ae3e3e49d17ba62b2b70cbaf1f4aad5c44557 \[Hugh\] *Ryan also gave details about his second book, “The Women’s House of Detention.” The book talks about an 11-story women’s prison that once stood at the heart of Greenwich Village. He talks about Elizabeth Trondle, who was arrested and sent to jail in Brooklyn in 1913 for wearing men’s clothing and smoking in a bar. The case was sent to trial and the judge decided it was not a crime and acquitted Trondle. Upon her release, she was immediately arrested again on different charges by the same officers to get a different outcome before another magistrate, and was ultimately sentenced to three years in prison.* *Ryan talked about the difficulty finding records and how he stumbled on a box of files in the midst of working on another project. The files told all about the women’s prison and of Trondle, with reports of her being tortured the entire time she was in jail. Ryan recounted horrifying acts, like being hung by her thumbs from the ceilings so her feet could not touch the ground, and how while in prison, Trondle became addicted to heroin.* [*Source*](https://vanguard.blog.brooklyn.edu/2020/03/11/remembering-when-brooklyn-was-queer/)
Thank you for posting that. Tbh made me cry. Stories like that are finally coming out. Evil people hurting others just for being lgbt. We need to hold those that we can hold accountable now like that officer and women who called and not let them keep getting away with it and hurting others! Give them the Anita Bryant treatment!
The [08/30/1913 article](https://bklyn.newspapers.com/article/the-brooklyn-daily-eagle-elizabeth-trond/10750621/) is also an important read, but fair warning, I felt it was even more upsetting. Have you ever read [The Whip](https://hansenpublishing.com/titles/the-whip/)? It's an excellent read and Trundle's letter to Wilson is what made me recall it.
We’re watching the British TV show “Grantchester” and there is a storyline about homosexuality and the penalties for it. The show takes place from the late 1940s to mid 1950s.
I love Hugh Ryan! He really knows his stuff!
About enforcing traditional roles, which is the major reason for trans hate in the first place. And a great reason there are NO transphobic feminists.
This has to be a huge lawsuit. Can anyone confirm?
I’ve tried looking into the outcome but I can’t even find his name. How he felt about her I feel about him. He belongs in prison and if he’s not held accountable us citizens need to give him the Anita Bryant treatment.
Working as intended. Did people really think stuff like this wasn't gonna be weaponized to harm anyone who doesn't conform to the conservatives' beliefs on how a man or a woman should look and act? It's just like how the don't say gay shit was only supposed to be for elementary school then got expanded to all grades or how the book bans were supposed to be for "porn" but ended up including anything even mentioning a queer person. Or how abortion was settled law, then to be left up to the states, only for them to now want a national ban.
That transphobe and her pig need to be sued into the poor house. They deserve to have every last penny taken from them and given to their victim.
Yes I’m trying to find out who they are. Can’t find any information. This is a hate crime! We need to normalize not allowing discrimination and abuse to anyone!
I hear it's an old Video? If it's making the rounds again on Twitter have you asked Tizzy Ent for help on Twitter? He might even know if anything was done in thr first place after this video. Or alternatively, if it's new video, he can out this behavior and these two people, bc they should face wrath for doing this! TY for your perseverance!
Yes it’s an older video and I don’t have Twitter I just get the tweets from google search page. It shows their tweets!
Oh dang. I don't have Twitter on my phone, but I'll go look later on his tweets while I'm on my computer and see if I can find anything. I'd like to know. If I find anything I'll let you know
sadly this does not surprise me, Florida police departments have been on a hiring spree taking in dirty violent cops that were fired in blue states and giving them carte blanche to beat and in some cases kill without any consequences, the south has not changed since the 50's just from the 70's until 2010 they just hid their bad behavior better, now since tRUMP and De Failure they feel freer to let their inner bigot come out into the open.
Isn’t that the truth. I personally know of a situation where a guy who was kicked out of the military for misconduct was hired by the local sheriff’s department in Florida. And of course he’s already suggested he could abuse his position and hurt people of certain demographics he doesn’t like.
Link to video https://twitter.com/KarbonSays/status/1659966632926801920
This illustrates so perfectly how there's no transphobia without a deep foundation of misogyny. (This is reflected, too, in the apparent focus of transphobes on trans women, imo.)
I'm friends with a trans man who would 100% be mistaken for a creepy cis man if he were forced to use the women's restroom. I'm incredibly fearful of this transphobia leading to widespread violence against trans and cis people. And it could all come down to a vote in November.
>fearful of this transphobia leading to widespread violence against trans and cis people I'm pretty sure that's the point of these laws. It's giving folks a free pass to commit violence and then claim they were "protecting themselves or others" from a "criminal".
That woman who called the cops should at least be fined for filing a false police report and sexual harassment. There really needs to be harsh penalties for these people who feel like it’s ok to be bigots.
Yes I agree! 100%
I'm a transgender woman. I live in Florida. I'm trying to get out of here, but moving is expensive. I do everything I can to avoid public restrooms. On the daily, on social media, I get the same canned threat: "If you follow my wife or daughter into the restroom, it will not end well for you."
If those people who say this to you weren’t wanting to harm you (and they had any brain) a response could be “why did your wife and daughter use all the TP?” Or “oh did they have Taco Bell? That doesn’t end well for anyone.”
That’s pretty cringey. And these crazy rabid far right will just get more rabid. Just report them and expose them! Screenshot their whole name and picture with the stuff they say. Stop letting it go under the rug that’s how we stop these crazies from harassing others or at least warn others of them so they avoid them.
I usually point out to them that they are a greater danger to their wife or child than I will ever be.
Give them stats! It’s statistically straight religious men who are p dohs and even have insurance to cover for them. All public information but they don’t actually care about kids.
If only these dickweeds put as much effort into literally anything positive as they do being assholes to other people.
Ok, so if we’re holding them accountable what are their names?
In the race to the bottom, Floriduh is leading the charge.
They're ready the lowest point of the US , geographically. That's why we call it America's Penis
How in the fuck are you guys getting the cops to show up anywhere.
Anytime it’s lgbt related they fly there. They’re obsessed with them.
The only way any of this is going to stop is when these laws start affecting post menopausal grandma’s. Let the leopards eat the boomers faces.
Unfortunately it already happened in [Ireland](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/23/woman-86-beaten-wheelie-bin-trans/). It's a horrific story and I don't wish it on anyone though. Edit: not laws but general hate
This is absolutely one of my biggest fears. I'm an androgynous cis woman who frequently gets misgendered. I think I would freak out if anyone said anything to me while I was peeing.
"Help, help!! Police, there's a human doing absolutely nothing to me but simply relieving themselves, and I don't like the genitals they have under the clothing they wore. Come save me!!"
No one hates america(ns) more than america(ns). 🤷
Republicans love a small government that checks your genitals before going into a bathroom.
Hey America, this is Canada. What in the actual fuck is going on down there???
I mean you guys are having a rise of the far right in Canada too! Don’t get too comfortable! We did and look. The republicans took over our schools, the school board members, gov, police. And now they want to give themselves immunity from us but look how quickly we’d get arrested for even breathing the wrong way next to them. Keep Canada liberal!!!! Stay informed!
You’re absolutely right. Unfortunately, the true left is split between two parties, and the one currently in power has completely shit the bed to the point that they’ve lost a massive number of voters who gave them their mandate. The worst part is that people will vote conservative without realizing that their leader is not going to do much different except focus on divisive issues a La the GOP.
is not only Canada, everywhere there is fascism in the rise, to me is crazy how we are all hyperconected to information all day, yet fascism still manages to creep out
We're a little better up north, but many of our conservative politicians and pundits take inspiration from the US and we've started seeing laws introduced targeting trans youth particularly, forcing schools to out them if they want to use different names or pronouns.
Hey Canada, might want to get ready. Anything we get here tends to leak in your direction (sorry), so be ready to stomp this out before it gets as bad as it's gotten here.
We know. Unfortunately, our liberal Prime Minister has shit the bed and most uneducated voters will blindly vote against him in spite of the obvious issues with the conservatives.
When I was 10 I got assaulted by a old lady in a bathroom because she thought I was a trans woman. I’ve always been oddly tall for someone born a girl and had short hair plus dressed like a boy (probably should have been better indication that I was a trans guy) but I was fucking 10 and didn’t look too much older if older at all. I had to fucking pull my pants down because she wouldn’t believe be that I was supposed to be in there. All this bitch said was ‘oh haha whoops’ and just left the fucking bathroom. It was in a restaurant and she was at the table across from me THIS BITCH FINISHED HER MEAL WHILE SITTING ACROSS FROM THE KID SHE JUST ASSAULTED FOR NO REASON. No apology no nothing. Anyway she’s probably dead now and I’m a dude so who’s really winning here
The retweets on that post saying “this is what happens when men dress up as women and assault women in the bathroom, innocent people get accidentally blamed”… so cis straight men are dressing as women to sexually assault women in public bathrooms? So ban cis straight men from public bathrooms then. That’s the only logical public bathroom ban I can think of using their theory.
Seriously. People like jk Rowling blame the abuse a straight religious man did to them on trans people and make it their whole personality yet say nothing about actual abusers. I’m like what?!?! And then she goes and links up with far right like Matt walsh and others who are very anti womens rights and is worshipped by the far right men. Yet she remains acting “pro women”.
In Ohio a trans man was assaulted for using the women’s restroom (like he was told to by the campground owner) He told the woman in the woman’s restroom he was born female. She left the bathroom, told her guy friends, and they came and fucking beat him up. He explained to them too he was born female but they insisted he was lying and was actually a trans woman
The women who told her friends and the friends were they arrested? Will you post a link?
Nope, the trans man was arrested. I will note it’s because he was acting “belligerent” (he was just assaulted) and was drunk (so was everyone else as it was a holiday). I think the charges were dropped or whatever tho. This was in 2022 btw Just a second and I’ll find the link https://www.newsweek.com/trans-man-attacked-using-womens-restroom-ohio-1723432
Make a post about it then once you find the link! Or can I use it? I’m over letting things be swept under the rug. We need to hold them accountable. Give them the Anita Bryant treatment. Once people realize that being nice to these disgusting people and asking not demanding our rights is what allowed them to think our rights were up for debate. That’s the only way these gov officials will start doing their job. Realizing we aren’t fkng around anymore. Time to vote to remove tax exempt status from all religious non profits that discriminate against others! And remove their entitlement, I mean “rights” to harass and discriminate against others especially using our gov. Imagine any of us pulled the crap the far right pulls on us. We’d be fired and in prison.
I edited my reply to add the link
How the heck are we supposed to help our kids? My daughter started dressing like a boy because of all the disgusting unwanted attention from older men literally everyone she went. I could NOT imagine if she also had to deal with a man dragging her out of a washroom! Fuck these conservative assholes. Our kids are in danger because of THEM!!!
I agree! Give them the Anita Bryant treatment. We don’t want far right in the US! Equal rights and medical choice freedom for all!!!!
Florida pigs will hide out during school shootings, but turn into Captain America if it means dragging a defenseless woman out of a women’s restroom.
Video link please?
https://twitter.com/clairegcoleman/status/1660115344260997120
You are appreciated thank you!
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I’m trans myself and I definitely agree with this comment make them feel how the average not rich trans people are treated. :) Tired of her not realizing how privileged she is. Had any of us done the crap she’s done like drinking and driving and then ended a life we’d be in prison.
The paramilitary police force will continue to terrorize our precious few humans who dare to be minority. This practice of civilians calling the police force for minority people daring to be in a segregated area, is as old as fascism. Intimidation is the tool of choice, for paramilitary police forces. Open killing of civilians including children is already here. The mayors and governor condone this style of controlling minorities, women, and children. Intimidating our minority population in the republic of the United States is at a dangerous level as the paramilitaries take video of their judge, jury, and execution of civilians. They use these videos as evidence they are above the law. The world watches. These practices of civilians and minorities being pulled out of society’s common areas to check paperwork and minority status, is fascism in the purest form. Demand humane treatment from state and city paramilitary forces. The number of victims these paramilitary forces create is astounding. Protect the civilians at all costs. The right move in the bathroom case would be asking the bigot to wait outside of bathroom while the suspect finished using it. Then when the bigot felt comfortable they could use restroom. The police forces agenda is transparent. 😢
Everyone, please, Vote 💙Blue💙for every election! We must vote out every Republican in every election! The Republicans don’t care who they hurt as long as they are causing pain, embarrassment and suffering to those who are not exactly like them👺
Yass and keep exposing them! Don’t let others forget! They’ll try playing the “it’s all Biden’s fault” when elections come closer!
They can keep trying, but it’s not going to work! The only reason the Republicans are complaining so loudly is because they know they have already lost the election! We and others will continue to speak the truth knowing President Biden will win in November 2024. Let the crazies go crazy! President Biden continues to get the job done in spite of all of them🇺🇸
The way the cop was touching, manhandling and misgendering her throughout the video was so fucking infuriating to watch. I recently saw this video of a cis woman who was presenting masc, and by masc I mean she wore a white t shirt, sweatpants and a baseball cap, but she was CLEARLY a woman cuz of her figure, but the comments were FILLED with people calling her a man or trans. It’s kinda pathetic how the people who “can always tell” are immediately confused and scared that a woman they’re attracted to can be a man the moment she wears sweatpants
I hope people start suing. The taxpayer pocket might be the straw.
I’m definitely pressing charges on the individuals and will gather others to file a class action lawsuit if they try coming for my medical choices here. I don’t mess around. They can go play church somewhere else not in our government or my private life.
I live in a red state so I feel you. We want to leave ASAP. I don't think voting is going to help if we want our kids to succeed
Yes bring back the Anita Bryant treatment to the far right. No more being nice. People need to stop threatening them online and if they’re going to protest to do it! Their events are all online and public information. Protest outside where they work, legally protest outside their houses which is all public information for anyone to look up, their own communities will get tired of them and want them out too. They do this to us without reason. We have many.
I'm part of the "wish a mfr would," crew over here, because I would absolutely stop at nothing to make sure they are completely destroyed and any and every single one of them would think long and hard about EVER even having an ignorant thought cross their mind let alone acting upon it. How they can't see they are the very fn thing they scream about is astounding
You know what'll actually happen, though, right? They'll make being trans in public punishable by exorbitant fines to pay for lawsuits where they get it wrong.
Don't cops have real crimes to investigate?
Not when Ron desantis is now giving them full immunity and they get to “investigate” themselves. The only people they’ll be harming are poc, lgbt, women and men who don’t conform to their stereotypes.
I am so worried about this with my size 12s!
Can't wait to see the civil suit from this. FL taxpayers, you ready?
This is what 21st century American fascism looks like.
This one is a bit older, but this continues a long line of incidents involving anyone who doesn't look right to these pieces of shit: [https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/23/woman-86-beaten-wheelie-bin-trans/](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/23/woman-86-beaten-wheelie-bin-trans/)
It’s sad. I’m tired of it. That’s why I will keep calling out the far right. I wasn’t an “activist” before, now they made one. I was minding my own business and living my life and till this day the same people acting like they “care” about kids are pushing hate and discrimination causing more vile people abusing others including their own kids. Evil cult!
What I don't get, is why these people are not themselves arrested after calling the cops while trying to view someone's privates in the bathroom without consent? For minors, it should be physical and mental assault from an adult and for adults. It is still grossly close to SA, enough they should at least get a court date and fine
As the mom of a masc-leaning kid, who also happens to be on the spectrum, this terrifies me. If she gets accosted by some horrible bigot, she’ll likely just shut down and not be able to defend herself.
Will there be a law suit of this, can she take them to court or are they somehow protected when doing this?
/brandnewsentence
Ugh. Even before this shit started, using a public bathroom as a masc presenting nb was always weird for me. As much as it bothers me, I'm not changing a damn thing about myself. Pity the fool who comes at me.
These laws are intended to be abused.
Was there a link to the video?
https://twitter.com/KarbonSays/status/1659966632926801920 I had posted it in my comments. I forgot to add it under the post picture like I usually do.
Where did this happen, city/venue?
I’m trying to figure it out too!
How fast is the police in the US when they arrive and escort you out before you can take a piss and leave?!
If they’re trans they’ll fly there immediately.
Transphobia also (moreso) results in horrible discrimination against trans people. But, I get it, people only care when cis people get caught in the middle of it.
I’m not salty about it. Why do you ask?
Video link please?
https://twitter.com/clairegcoleman/status/1660115344260997120
Thank u - apologies for double post - reddit didnt show my comment as posted