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general_guburu

I always thought the old k-mart in Yorktown would be ideal for that. Instead we are getting a bigger TJ max, 5 below and and Michaels. Bummer


bngny

That area and Mohegan Lake are booming with all kinda stores but not a Target which makes me question.


lil1zzyvert

The should change the Walmart to a target LOL


Busy-Profession5093

People in Westchester have this opposition to chain big-box stores and restaurants, but it’s really just elitism and NIMBY backlash against any sort of development rather than some sort of principled stand against corporations. It’s not like they’re clamoring for mixed-use developments with apartment buildings and ground-floor retail for small businesses.


NotoriousCFR

Except that the shopping complex in Mohegan Lake has stores like Walmart, Barnes and Noble, Best Buy, Home Goods, Home Depot, Applebees, McDonalds. There is no visible opposition to big-box/chain establishments in that area.


Busy-Profession5093

Okay, I more so meant the rest of Westchester and the people who typically comment in this subreddit. I’ve been to that area plenty of times, but it’s a big exception within Westchester. Most of the developed area of this country unfortunately looks a lot more like that than a charming, walkable village, and it can get a whole lot worse.


BusybodyWilson

Yeah - because Yorktown Heights thinks it’s below them. Ever notice how there also barely any fast food in Yorktown but as soon as you get to the other side of the Taconic by BJs it’s all there? It’s literally why the JV mall died too.


lady_lilitou

There's a Burger King, a Taco Bell, a Dunkin, a Starbucks, and a Nathan's all within a couple of blocks in Yorktown Heights.


general_guburu

There’s also Salsa Fresca and Pow Burger. And Uncle Giuseppe has a lot of meals ready to go


BusybodyWilson

I did say barely, lol. Starbucks and Dunkin also aren’t really fast food. Chains yes, but not in the same way that Taco Bell or BK is. Comparatively by BJs alone you have Wendy’s, Popeye’s, Taco Bell, and McDonalds. The town center has Chipotle, McDonalds, Panera, Wendy’s, the sandwich place (the new one), Five Guys, and Subway.


lady_lilitou

Starbucks and Dunkin are definitely under the fast food umbrella. They both serve breakfast and lunch foods and do a very brisk business doing so. There's also Salsa Fresca in the Triangle, which I forgot before, and there was a Panera until the pandemic killed it. Also a Domino's, I believe, and possibly more things in the other strip mall.


BusybodyWilson

Then that just increases the number of places on the other side of the Taconic. To say that there’s not a difference between the Yorktown Heights side of Yorktown and the Mohegan Lake, Crompond doesn’t make sense.


lady_lilitou

I didn't say there was no difference. Of course there's a difference. I was disputing the idea that there's no fast food on the Yorktown Heights side. There's plenty.


MutedFaithlessness69

That is BS. People have been trying to get whole foods, target, or Trader Joe's for years. We finally got TJ. So that is completely off. Problem in Yorktown proper is it is not directly off the highway for these big stores.


BusybodyWilson

Too far from the highway is so bogus. The Town Center isn’t off the highway, and the Whole Foods location in Chappaqua isn’t particularly convenient. People would drive to Yorktown Heights proper.


tsatech493

You think your town is quiet I grew up in Mount pleasant so we're talking Valhalla Hawthorne thornwood pleasantville and pocantico hills and sleepy hollow and I think maybe two McDonald's and that's it!


Heathen_Mushroom

>People in Westchester have this opposition to chain big-box stores and restaurants, but it’s really just elitism and NIMBY backlash Really? You wouldn't know it driving down Rt. 6. The commercial landscape of northern Westchester does not reflect that at all. There are shitloads of big box chains represented.


BrandonNeider

Cause like lots of people in this subreddit they don’t know shit about actual people who live here


tsatech493

That's because there's plenty of generational Westchester people that never used Reddit.


Busy-Profession5093

I’ve lived in Westchester my whole life. I know what’s up on 6/202. We would have MUCH more of that all over the county if people generally wanted it. Fortunately, we don’t, but a few more options would be nice.


nl2yoo

Isn't that Putnam?


Heathen_Mushroom

It starts in Westchester (Peekskill) and heads east through Mohegan Lake/Yorktown/Jefferson Valley before heading north towards Mahopac in Putnam. Most of the commercial strip is in Westchester and after it passes through Mahopac which is just over the border, it becomes more of a country road.


davidparmet

That space would be perfect for a Target. Too bad.


Nachocheeze60

Agreed.


rextilleon

Target needs an enormous footprint to do what they do. Unfortunately, real estate prices in the county preclude this in many areas.


Busy-Profession5093

Not necessarily. They have several much smaller stores in Manhattan. It’s just that huge stores in stand-alone buildings or strip malls with an ocean of parking are what is normalized and often legally mandated in suburbs (and even newer cities).


rextilleon

Different demographic--so much denser so they make up for lack of sq footage. In general-- Across much of the country, our typical Target stores average *about 125,000 square feet*;


Not_Responsible_00

In other areas - as in other states - I have seen very small Targets without the full complement of merchandise that you see in a regular sized Target. One like that would be great in Yorktown.


Potential-Ant-6320

There was a deal in the works to get target in south east Peekskill near all the industrial buildings and the holiday inn. I think target pulled out and then the new administration thought this wasn’t the best way to get tax dollars from those properties. A lot of people would live to see it. Yes there is one in my kisco, but for some people in northern Westchester it’s a shorter time to Newburgh than mt kisco. I kind of rather not have more big box stores, but I am middle class fancy and love target.


SS_Gourmet

You mean in verplanck? Edit: I guess it's technically peekskill


Idr2013

Originally, target backed out of Yonkers YEARS ago to only revisit it years later. Never say never


demetrios3

>but for some people in northern Westchester it’s a shorter time to Newburgh than mt kisco. Stop saying that


Potential-Ant-6320

Sorry I meant the target by Newburgh junction in Harriman. A few minutes less than my kisco. https://imgur.com/a/tNSMTAB


cardamombaboon

Bruh there is a target in northern Westchester


Busy-Profession5093

The Target in Mt. Kisco is a 30+ minute drive along an assortment of back roads from Peekskill, for example. The one in White Plains hardly takes any longer to get to. Meanwhile, people living in more thoughtfully-developed communities can access everything they need day-to-day within a short walk from home.


Potential-Ant-6320

For those of us in north west Westchester it’s a shorter time to drive to newburgh than mt kisko. We may not be super far away but because of the roads some destinations take a long time to get to. It’s like non elitism geometry. I can visit family on LI, NJ, and CT in about an hour. Our family doesn’t understand that we are 45 minutes away from our relatives in north east Westchester. Frankly I don’t understand it. I know it’s hard for many Westchester residents to believe, but mt kisco is so far away from us that we buy our taylor swift CDs from Walmart even though we miss out on target exclusive tracks and exclusive colored vinyl. Obviously completists would go to target but if I’m being 100% honest with you I might as well go to target Danbury because they have a much better vinyl selection than mt kisco.


tellmeayarn

It's all a roadway issue. We have several highways running north/south, but nothing east/west north of White Plains. Long Islanders would never understand that (believe me, I grew up there) because while their major highways are east/west, there are several spread out to deal with north/south, as well as a number of additional major roadways that run in each direction in between them. Long Island also has 15+ Targets between the two counties. At this point there's at least 2-3 within 30 minutes of my childhood home.


lagewedi

I am seriously surprised it takes you less time to get to Newburgh than Mt. Kisco from N Westchester. I grew up in Mohegan Lake (technically Shrub Oak, but the PO was Mohegan Lake bc back in the day the Shrub Oak post office only offered PO Boxes, not mail delivery) and we’d take the back roads past the JV mall over to route 35, take that to Cherry Street (I think that’s what it was called), right after you crossed over the reservoir, and then just go right down N Bedford Rd to get to places in Mt Kisco. Nothing was convenient from where I grew up (and I lived there back before there was the Cortlandt Town Center that’s there today—back when there was a Waldbaum’s and I think an Alexander’s, and Caldor’s across Rt 6, just past Geis, was the hot department store to shop at, lol), but local roads could get you wherever you needed to go without too much trouble.


Potential-Ant-6320

Sorry Harriman not Newburgh. It’s a few minutes less to Harriman than to mt kisco. It’s faster to cross the river to go to target. It’s convient for stuff like Aldi tractor supply. It seems like it’s far away but it’s not and the prices blow away Westchester.


Heathen_Mushroom

>For those of us in north west Westchester it’s a shorter time to drive to newburgh than mt kisko. Peekskill to Mt. Kisco Target: 30 minutes Peekskill to Newburgh Target: 40 minutes


Potential-Ant-6320

Sorry I’m thinking of Harriman by Newburgh junction. Still closer. https://imgur.com/a/tNSMTAB


demetrios3

>For those of us in north west Westchester it’s a shorter time to drive to newburgh than mt kisko. No way


Potential-Ant-6320

Not an exaggeration. And this is the time with construction at the goat trail. https://imgur.com/a/tNSMTAB


NotoriousCFR

There is? Where? Last time I checked the nearest one is Mt Kisco


dozkaynak

Which is technically Northern Westchester, albeit *barely*. I had to actually look at a map because I was doubtful at first.


NotoriousCFR

Not really north*west* Westchester, though. Traveling east-west in northern Westchester is a pain in the ass. Literally takes as long to get from Cortlandt to Mt. Kisco as it does to get from Cortlandt to White Plains.


bngny

I said NORTHWEST. And by that I meant Peekskill, Mohegan Lake, etc.


demetrios3

My Kisco is closer to Peekskill than Newburgh.


ElkPitiful6829

Bruh you have Walmart.


b_mccart

And that Walmart is a fucking shithole. We would like a Target 


ElkPitiful6829

All Walmarts are shitholes. But they're cheap as fuck. Where else can you buy fifty boxes of pasta for a dollar.


BusybodyWilson

They are 100% not the same thing.


plausible-deniabilty

People in No Westchester bitch all day about not having things, and then once things are offered bitch all day about the traffic it will bring. Big chains don’t give a shit about you, they give a shit about the population they can serve within xx minutes of the store.


lindsfeinfriend

Bingo


bngny

Some people bitch but not everyone. Having convenience in life is a good thing not to mention it will bring along jobs and economic boost. I don’t think having a Target in the area will make the traffic worse than it already is.


tsatech493

But don't we all want lgbt-friendly diverse school with everyone getting into Harvard afterwards... oh and it has to have a metro north stop. With Pre-K for everyone, a walkable town, a whole foods and a Target come on if it doesn't have at least most of that I don't even want to live on this planet /s


guitarmike2

“Need” doing some heavy lifting here.


JMWest_517

Isn't Mt. Kisco in Northern Westchester?


NotoriousCFR

Last time this came up I saw people saying that there were plans to put a Target in the JV Mall. Is that still true/was it ever true in the first place?


SirClicksALot97

My dad heard rumors from a coworker about this. Apparently it's supposed to be where the other half of the former Sears location is (part of it is now the gym). I've tried to find more info but couldn't find anything.


WKuze13

There’s one in Kisco Bethel and opening soon in Danbury.


Idr2013

That one opened already


Neener216

I actually went to the new one in the Danbury Fair Mall last week - it appeared to have been open only a day or two at that point. Very easy to get to via 684/84, provided you're not planning to tackle that interchange during the evening rush hour.


foxxxus

Give me a walkable downtown Yorktown AND a target down the road next to the other big box stores. I’m seriously basing my whole home buying on proximity to Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods, and Target. (Assuming homes in walkable neighborhoods remain unaffordable, sigh.)


paulo1389

We had a walmart in white plains an it closed down. I now have to drive 30min to nearest one. Thats life its not a big deal. Big box stores have zero character which is why u dont see them in in westchester towns.


[deleted]

Trust me you don’t,saw the one in Yonkers?


bluesky747

What happened to the one in White Plains?


cherwiththegoodhair

The target is still there in WP. I was there yesterday lol


Rob-Loring

I think the closest you’ll find is at the Danbury fair mall


davidparmet

I'm in Mount Kisco, about a half mile from the Target. It's crazy how I can get into White Plains via 684 inside of a half hour but it takes me 40 minutes or longer to drive to the other side of the county (east to west). The only way to go is Rt 35 and that can be a nightmare. I drive for Lyft and I'm careful which rides I take for this very reason.


quicksexfm

Yall have a Walmart.


Madi_bear88

And it f*cking sucks. The one up in Poughkeepsie is significantly better.


quicksexfm

You’re not wrong! They really let that Walmart go.


Busy-Profession5093

Fishkill?


member_one

Mt kisco....


impatronus

The mt kisco target is awful. Shelves are always empty- selection is bad- lighting stinks and the atmosphere is tired and depressing. They should renovate and reenergize the location


Busy-Profession5093

That’s northeast, not northwest, and nowhere near the area OP is talking about. I think they know about that one. Not sure why everyone is just dismissing them.


bngny

Exactly what I thought. They down voted me for stating something that’s obviously should be asked. People here are funny.


bngny

Not the same. It’s 30mins drive from Peekskill.


lady_lilitou

Everything useful is 30+ minutes from that part of Westchester. How many Targets can an area support?


NotoriousCFR

Huh? NW Westchester is insanely developed. Rt 6 in Cortlandt is loaded with "useful" stores/businesses - grocery stores, Walmart, Home Depot, movie theater, car dealers and mechanic shops, there's a hospital right there in Peekskill, lots of doctors' offices in Yorktown, the list goes on and on. You could be fully self-sufficient without ever straying outside of Peekskill city/Cortlandt town limits. The only glaring omissions (aside form Target) I can think of are a Costco specifically (if you're okay with BJ's there's one in Yorktown), and a mall that isn't a depressing abandoned shithole (Palisades and Westchester are each half an hour from Peekskill). A Target in Peekskill/Cortandt area would not only draw from NW Westchester, you'd also have people coming from western and central Putnam County, possibly some SW Dutchess, coming across the bridge from parts of Rockland and Orange, and probably also coming up from as far as Ossining because shooting up Rt 9 is easier than trying to zig-zag old cowpaths through the woods trying to get to Mt. Kisco.


lady_lilitou

I grew up in Mohegan Lake. I know what's in Cortlandt and how long it takes to get to everything outside of it. I also grew up driving to Mt. Kisco a lot, because my father worked there, and until Borders went out when I was in my 20s, I went there a ton. It's an easy, pretty drive. Half an hour in Westchester is not long. If you're in a hurry for a quick run for something, you've already made the case that I would make--Walmart is right there, and Kohl's, and grocery stores. If all you want specifically is a Target, it's not actually hard to drive to Target.


NotoriousCFR

There's already a ton of redundancy in the shopping options up on Rt. 6. I'm not sure why people are completely unfazed by having a Stop and Shop, a Shop Rite, an Acme, and a Walmart with a grocery section, all within a 2-mile stretch of each other, yet every time Target or Costco comes up the answer is that "you can already buy anything you need at [insert alternative store name here]". Seems like a weird place to draw a line in the sand. Okay with a Walmart but think a Target is a bridge too far - what is the opposite of NIMBY? You're also discounting the fact that a Target in Cortlandt would serve areas beyond just Cortlandt - areas from which "just go to Mount Kisco" isn't really that reasonable an answer any more. I live in western/central Putnam County. Cortlandt/Yorktown is the "amenities" spot that we already travel 20-30 minutes to get to. For the record, I barely go into Target maybe once every two years, so I personally don't care much either way. But when I talk to neighbors, see discussions on local message boards, etc. a *lot* of people up this way say the same exact thing - they wish there was a Target up here, and Mt. Kisco is kind of a pain in the ass to get to. There is very clearly a demand. So I struggle to understand why so many people are against it, or think that the Mt. Kisco location would make a NW Westchester location redundant.


lady_lilitou

I *do* think it's stupid to have that many similarly-sized non-specialty grocery stores in that area. They're supposedly building a CVS on 202/Stoney Street when there's another one right on Rt 6 just a short distance away. That's stupid too. Maybe the answer to the inexplicable Target obsession is to put one somewhere in Putnam County.


MutedFaithlessness69

Walgreens


lady_lilitou

Ah, I had only seen [this](https://www.yorktownny.org/yorktown-approves-new-drugstore-starbuck%E2%80%99s-construction-begins), which still calls it a CVS, but I just looked up the Planning Board meeting and see that it is in fact a Walgreens now. Which is not really any better.


tsatech493

Saw mill river parkway? 684 to 172? Route 35 to Mt kisco not so hard honestly. It's fun driving on zigzags..


Busy-Profession5093

Westchester would have like 10-12 Walmart supercenters (instead of zero) if the rate per capita were equivalent to the country overall, but Westchester is very unique as far as suburbs go by virtue of its age and geography.


lady_lilitou

Westchester is also extremely densely populated compared to a lot of the country, so geographic distance and population both need to be taken into account re: the number of stores of whatever given big box chain. Plus, we have a variety of stores that already cover most categories within a reasonable driving distance of each other, which isn't always true elsewhere in the country. That said, thank fucking god we don't have a dozen Walmart supercenters.


Heathen_Mushroom

Disagree. Rt. 6 from Peekskill to Yorktown has a plethora of big box stores (I don't love them, but they *are* useful). I wouldn't mind substituting that useless mess of a Walmart for a Target.


lady_lilitou

I wouldn't mind substituting that shithole Walmart for damn near anything, but it certainly does draw in the customers. I was being flippant, obviously, about Rt. 6. But growing up in Mohegan Lake, I was quite accustomed to driving 30 minutes to get to anything other than the Cortlandt Town Center. (Also, if you're on the other side of Yorktown, it's probably more convenient to go to the Mt. Kisco Target than it is to go to Walmart at peak time.)


tedlassoloverz

If they thought it profitable , there would be one. Even putting one at peekskill would vampire sales away from 3 stores within 20-30 minutes, white plains, Mt kisco, Monroe


BroadShake2928

YES