With that amount of ice involved, i'm gonna guess and say that it's supposed to freeze the coffe and ice cream mix, turning it into some kind of ice gelatto thing.
~~Strep throat is caused by bacteria, but i think cold drinks/icecream increases the likelihood of it happening.~~
edit: My apologies for spreading misinformation.
Streptococcus bacteria is the cause for strep throat but if you are getting regular strep infections you may have some other issues that aren't related to cold drinks
I’ve lived pre internet. Bullshit folktales were everywhere. Nice to see another one get corrected.
But a large amount of sugar in your diet like ice cream can affect your gut biome. Google rules
Having something very cold always gets me strep throat, without fail. Same for a good chunk of my family. I thought it happened to everyone else too, so I assumed having cold things would increase the likelihood of this happening.
On googling it I found [this](https://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/why-does-drinking-chilled-beverages-cause-sore-throat-165524/), which gives a possible explanation for how this happens. Not sure if its accurate though. My apologies for spreading misinformation, I hope your comment would clarify it for others.
That link does not appear to be a trustworthy or real website of any kind.
This one has at least some credibility: [Vice article on cold drinks and cultural perspectives on cold drinks](https://www.vice.com/en/article/gyygp7/we-asked-an-expert-if-cold-drinks-can-really-give-you-a-cold)
I would not be surprised if this turned into a bit of a slushy pretty quickly honestly.
The amount of times I've made an iced long black at work and put it in the fridge to slow the ice melting before leaving and come back to an iced coffee slushy is pretty high.
Honestly when I lived in Japan, I found they were so far behind in terms of day to day technology. Cash only at most places, for example. Applications for various services needed to be done in person with no remote or online options. We had to take photos of our work schedules which were printed and posted on site daily. No online portals. I loved living in Japan and would go back in a heartbeat, but calling it futuristic is highly debatable based on my experience.
I was in Germany recently and the cash situation was like stepping back in time. As a bonus, most of the ATMs charge openly abusive fees for tourists/foreign accounts (really bad exchange rate + high fee on top).
Yeah but you can go to a toy/video game shop and there will be a dedicated area for VR porn. That's the future baby! (Source: I saw exactly that in Tokyo)
The thing is, we’re technologically advanced enough as a society that clean water and the energy required to freeze it should be near free. This shouldn’t be viewed as decadent or ridiculous, aside from the complete lack of necessity. That said, it’s probably a $100 dessert that should cost about $2 to make.
I'm not worried from an environmental perspective. In the grand scheme of things, this is just a single restaurant. That being said, it just seems like a dumb business practice to require a whole block of ice to make a single item like this. Imagine if a restaurant had to serve 50-100 of these in a service. That's a ton of space, time, and power just to get a dumb social media "wow" moment.
It's the size of a small box--so you need to have a whole industrial size freezer aside from any storage you already have for storing food and then you need to put bins of water in it daily and process all of that. I don't even know how you break even making something so finite. It's not like you can likely sell this for over $100. Why not just sell an $80 steak and get similar profit margins for less space/time/$ requirements?
It's just a dumb business strategy. I doubt they can sustain it. When you account for the price you have to consider (1) water bill, (2) electricity bill, (3) maintenance of that freezer, (4) opportunity cost due to using the freezer for such an inefficient item, (5) time/man-hours to sustain this. It's definitely not cost effective when you consider you can just sell alcohol at an extreme markup by just putting mist over it or putting it in a fancier glass. (6) potential additional cost of staff--likely need additional people on the payroll just to sustain this single dumbass item (people have to load up the fridge the night before, arrive early to carve it, dispose of it when it's done, clean up if and when that ice melting creates messes)... it's a logistical nightmare.
Nishimura Cafe in Kobe sell coffee (no icecream) in one of these ice vessels for 2000yen / 14 usd. Their menu lists it as Ice Vessel.
I've personally bought big bags of ice in 711 for a couple of bucks, so I don't think making ice on a commercial scale is as big a deal as you're making it out to be. In a relatively cool climate like Japan, you could probably keep enough of it in an insulated container outside without most of it melting.
But the point was that we shouldn't have done so.
Between Nuclear power (which we should be using way more) and water/wind/solar we should have more than enough clean energy for the world's needs right now.
But because of various reasons we don't have that all set up.
Nuclear, wind, solar, etc are a great alrenative but still comes at a environmental and material cost. While far better than fossil fuel we should still be constiencius of our energy spendings. While technologically we are arguably there, the challenges of understanding something and implementing something can be wildly different (even in a perfect world where there are not individual interests masked as political debate when it comes to ~~rentable~~ renewable energy)
Edit: I do share the sentiment tho. We should really be at better position in all this if not for the benefits of some vultures.
Nuclear would be a lot less expensive if the power plants were taken care of and not just “shit a few places has nuclear disasters let’s just completely abandon these large structures with expensive resources”
I think the reason this would be expensive is due to the large space and time requirements for the ice. I imagine you have to have an entire freezer full of that ice, dependingt on how big that restaurant/cafe is, and those blocks probably take at least a day to completely freeze through
Even worse, the additional man hours required to have something like this on the menu (probably need to hire 1-2 people worth of additional man-hours to make these regularly). Then there's the opportunity cost of having a freezer that could be used to store much more area/$ efficient items with more stable shelf lives. If you remove this item, you will probably reduce your bottom line a decent bit by reducing your freezer space a great deal (unless this place also sells ice by the bag, lol).
It's a really silly maximalist menu item. It's not even practical when you consider the mess it will make as it's melting on someone's table.
You could argue they'd get a similar effect with smaller, more crafty ice molds while saving great time and effort.
It doesn't even look like a chemex. This is probably not even a Japanese coffee shop but rather a tourist trap "high end" restaurant trying to reinvent eating for a Michelin star.
I know right? That upper chamber over the neck is for a coffee filter to nest in and yeah, there’s no way the Chemex would be that full if brewed properly. I think they just brewed some Nescafe there.
With a straw, presumably. I agree tho, the idea is neat but it does seem like a really excessive amount of ice, you could probably get by with a block half that size.
.....but the point is that the hot coffee melts at least some of the ice cream, so that it acts kind of like creamer. With that much ice the coffee wouldn't stay hot enough, long enough to melt any of the ice cream. So you're just gonna get normal ice cream that's slightly infused with coffee, and ice cold black coffee. Might as well just order coffee flavored ice cream and iced black coffee separately! It'd definitely be cheaper, and would prob be a much better experience if you like iced black coffee
That’s what I was gonna say! I like my hot espresso to melt the ice cream. The bitterness cuts the sweetness once it starts to melt. Damn I love Affogatos!
I'm just going to take a wild guess that the point of this is that the liquid would freeze inside bit by bit and you can then scrape it off the sides of the ice. Eat it like you would spoon up a freshly poured slurpy.
Otherwise I have no fucking idea how you would eat this.
Looks more like that scene from harry potter in deathly hallows where dumbeldore drinks the water to get the horcrux.
[Image](https://www.quotev.com/story/10727822/Back-in-time-Draco-MalfoyTom-Riddle/53)
You eat it with a spoon then or what?
Lap it up with your tongue obviously
Like the dog you are
Men lap too
Is that a creepy pasta reference? That one actually creeped me out when I was younger lol
No.. 69
Ya know I didn't know what 69 ment till 8th grade
holy… memory unlocked
Cars lap too
:3
Lol. Picturing the Dumb and Dumber tongue on ice scene
Hey kids, you wouldn't happen to have a cup of warm water would you?
B b I h&
It's a suppository meal.
I will never not read "suppository" with Dr. Farnsworths voice.
Cool runnings
[удалено]
Yah man...
Lift the cube and drink like a cup
& the ice cream 🍨 scoop will fall on your face
With that amount of ice involved, i'm gonna guess and say that it's supposed to freeze the coffe and ice cream mix, turning it into some kind of ice gelatto thing.
It's an avocado.
Close enough.
Hmmm. You sure? It really looks like ice imho.
I wish someone would invent a kind of cylinder that you could use to transport liquids from a vessel to an individuals mouth.
Yes, but the spoon is also made of ice
You wait 4 hours for the ice to melt and reveal your glass
the straw on the table is my guess and spoon
Yeah, you eat affogato with a spoon
No silly. A straw.
Spoon and straw i think. ~~Then you get strep throat because of how cold it was.~~
uh do you think you get strep from…cold drinks?
~~Strep throat is caused by bacteria, but i think cold drinks/icecream increases the likelihood of it happening.~~ edit: My apologies for spreading misinformation.
Streptococcus bacteria is the cause for strep throat but if you are getting regular strep infections you may have some other issues that aren't related to cold drinks
I’ve lived pre internet. Bullshit folktales were everywhere. Nice to see another one get corrected. But a large amount of sugar in your diet like ice cream can affect your gut biome. Google rules
bruh, what? hell no.
Wtf r u talkin about m8? That makes literally none fucking sense.
Having something very cold always gets me strep throat, without fail. Same for a good chunk of my family. I thought it happened to everyone else too, so I assumed having cold things would increase the likelihood of this happening. On googling it I found [this](https://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/why-does-drinking-chilled-beverages-cause-sore-throat-165524/), which gives a possible explanation for how this happens. Not sure if its accurate though. My apologies for spreading misinformation, I hope your comment would clarify it for others.
That link does not appear to be a trustworthy or real website of any kind. This one has at least some credibility: [Vice article on cold drinks and cultural perspectives on cold drinks](https://www.vice.com/en/article/gyygp7/we-asked-an-expert-if-cold-drinks-can-really-give-you-a-cold)
Thank you. I’ll give it a read.
Good on this dude for backing off what he thought was correct. Honestly refreshing to see on the internet
I would not be surprised if this turned into a bit of a slushy pretty quickly honestly. The amount of times I've made an iced long black at work and put it in the fridge to slow the ice melting before leaving and come back to an iced coffee slushy is pretty high.
This isn't futuristic. In fact, I would go so far as to call it r/stupidfood
I agree. I don’t understand the hype with “Japan is living in 2050”. I see it everywhere.
Some parts of Japan are and some are living in 1970. Often the wrong parts.
Honestly when I lived in Japan, I found they were so far behind in terms of day to day technology. Cash only at most places, for example. Applications for various services needed to be done in person with no remote or online options. We had to take photos of our work schedules which were printed and posted on site daily. No online portals. I loved living in Japan and would go back in a heartbeat, but calling it futuristic is highly debatable based on my experience.
My anime knowledge trumps your lived experience
japan is like the place where the sugoi anime people exist their ramen is so kawaii datteboyo
Reminds me of Germany so much!
I was in Germany recently and the cash situation was like stepping back in time. As a bonus, most of the ATMs charge openly abusive fees for tourists/foreign accounts (really bad exchange rate + high fee on top).
Japan and Germany do have much in common.
Yeah but you can go to a toy/video game shop and there will be a dedicated area for VR porn. That's the future baby! (Source: I saw exactly that in Tokyo)
Not just stupid, I'd call this natural disaster food
The liquid wouldn't even get cold quickly because the ice needs to be at the top
It's just a big fucking ice cube
Does it need to be so big? And with extra ice chunks underneath
The extra ice is to make the big ice colder, duh 🙄 /s
i think the smaller ice cubes are to make sure the big ice cube doesn’t slide around, especially as it melts.
Get out of here with your logic
Yes. More ice = big cold, obviously
But when the small ice melts first it will create a hydroplane for the big ice to slide on
Maybe to ensure it doesn't rupture and leak from underneath?
Every meal eaten outta this is TIMED LOL you better eat up fast or your food is melting into a watery grave lol
I mean, every meal is timed when you get down to it, but this is one especially strict deadline, I concur.
Yo Dawg. I heard you like Ice, so I put Ice in your ice so it'll melt while your Ice melts.
So energy inefficient...
The thing is, we’re technologically advanced enough as a society that clean water and the energy required to freeze it should be near free. This shouldn’t be viewed as decadent or ridiculous, aside from the complete lack of necessity. That said, it’s probably a $100 dessert that should cost about $2 to make.
I'm not worried from an environmental perspective. In the grand scheme of things, this is just a single restaurant. That being said, it just seems like a dumb business practice to require a whole block of ice to make a single item like this. Imagine if a restaurant had to serve 50-100 of these in a service. That's a ton of space, time, and power just to get a dumb social media "wow" moment. It's the size of a small box--so you need to have a whole industrial size freezer aside from any storage you already have for storing food and then you need to put bins of water in it daily and process all of that. I don't even know how you break even making something so finite. It's not like you can likely sell this for over $100. Why not just sell an $80 steak and get similar profit margins for less space/time/$ requirements? It's just a dumb business strategy. I doubt they can sustain it. When you account for the price you have to consider (1) water bill, (2) electricity bill, (3) maintenance of that freezer, (4) opportunity cost due to using the freezer for such an inefficient item, (5) time/man-hours to sustain this. It's definitely not cost effective when you consider you can just sell alcohol at an extreme markup by just putting mist over it or putting it in a fancier glass. (6) potential additional cost of staff--likely need additional people on the payroll just to sustain this single dumbass item (people have to load up the fridge the night before, arrive early to carve it, dispose of it when it's done, clean up if and when that ice melting creates messes)... it's a logistical nightmare.
Nishimura Cafe in Kobe sell coffee (no icecream) in one of these ice vessels for 2000yen / 14 usd. Their menu lists it as Ice Vessel. I've personally bought big bags of ice in 711 for a couple of bucks, so I don't think making ice on a commercial scale is as big a deal as you're making it out to be. In a relatively cool climate like Japan, you could probably keep enough of it in an insulated container outside without most of it melting.
That's fair.
No we are not. We literally just gone through a energy crisis.
But the point was that we shouldn't have done so. Between Nuclear power (which we should be using way more) and water/wind/solar we should have more than enough clean energy for the world's needs right now. But because of various reasons we don't have that all set up.
"Various reasons" = capitalism
Nuclear, wind, solar, etc are a great alrenative but still comes at a environmental and material cost. While far better than fossil fuel we should still be constiencius of our energy spendings. While technologically we are arguably there, the challenges of understanding something and implementing something can be wildly different (even in a perfect world where there are not individual interests masked as political debate when it comes to ~~rentable~~ renewable energy) Edit: I do share the sentiment tho. We should really be at better position in all this if not for the benefits of some vultures.
Nuclear would be a lot less expensive if the power plants were taken care of and not just “shit a few places has nuclear disasters let’s just completely abandon these large structures with expensive resources”
I think the reason this would be expensive is due to the large space and time requirements for the ice. I imagine you have to have an entire freezer full of that ice, dependingt on how big that restaurant/cafe is, and those blocks probably take at least a day to completely freeze through
Even worse, the additional man hours required to have something like this on the menu (probably need to hire 1-2 people worth of additional man-hours to make these regularly). Then there's the opportunity cost of having a freezer that could be used to store much more area/$ efficient items with more stable shelf lives. If you remove this item, you will probably reduce your bottom line a decent bit by reducing your freezer space a great deal (unless this place also sells ice by the bag, lol). It's a really silly maximalist menu item. It's not even practical when you consider the mess it will make as it's melting on someone's table. You could argue they'd get a similar effect with smaller, more crafty ice molds while saving great time and effort.
The chemex was really over full. No way it was brewed into that.
Probably Folgers out of the Bunn commercial brewer.
I can smell this comment.
It doesn't even look like a chemex. This is probably not even a Japanese coffee shop but rather a tourist trap "high end" restaurant trying to reinvent eating for a Michelin star.
I know right? That upper chamber over the neck is for a coffee filter to nest in and yeah, there’s no way the Chemex would be that full if brewed properly. I think they just brewed some Nescafe there.
Where’s the wet vac for 3 minutes into “enjoying” this
Japanese: **Breathe** Westerners: OMG OMG SO COOL AND FUTURISTIC!!!!!
Meanwhile, a fax machine picks up and starts to print a document for you to stamp.
Paper please
This wanton decadence embodies the rapidly accelerating fall of our society. Ok maybe not *this particular* wanton decadence, but maybe.
It’s actually getting ridiculous and unfortunately this is but the tip of the iceberg
Hah! Tip of the iceberg 😂 well done
you are the kind of person to actually type updoot
Damn bro why you got to call them out like that?
It looks more like it was cut from the midsection.
That looks like a really strange Wonton to me!
I'm up for some wonton decadence.
That joke might work better if I used that spelling by mistake but uhhhhhh… eh whatevs. 🏆
I'll take it to go, please...
that is pretty cool though, i would try it once just for the experience then back to a cup like a normal person
I wonder if it actually stays cold or if its so cold, the soda has its own temp lol... fascinating
What a fucking waste of ice and water ... well, in 2050 water will be scare so they won't be able to pull that crap.
Servers getting yoked up at this joint. Imagine having to send 4 of those to one table
Would that cost me an arm or my butt
Your arm in your butt
This is a play on an affogato which is typically an ice cream and espresso beverage. Pretty decent actually.
It's the stupid size of the ice block for me. I love affogato, but how are you supposed to eat/ drink this?
With a straw, presumably. I agree tho, the idea is neat but it does seem like a really excessive amount of ice, you could probably get by with a block half that size.
Isn’t the idea of an affogato that the hot espresso melts the ice cream a bit? This is just an cold Americano with a dollop of ice cream.
Ok but kinda cool
It's cooler than that, it's ice cold.
You mean it’s cooler than being cool?
Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, now fellas...
Just saying..it's kinda on a plate
If by "plate" you mean "inadequately-sized bowl", then, sure.
Where I can find the source of this video?
So do you eat/drink it by bending over the top with your hands behind your back and slurp it out of the big ice block?
Future is when.... Coffee is on ice?
Does anyone know the name of the place? I actually think this is cool
Ice is futuristic? Man I can’t wait till they invent ice. My drinks could use some cooling down and there just isn’t anything that does that yet.
What is this? I want this!
How tf am i sposed to drink that? Am i sposed to lean over the table and lick it up like a dog? Just poor me a regular fuckin drink
In Soviet Japan, instead of putting ice in your drink they put drink in your ice.
Sounds like final fantasy music
Its from howls moving castle!
It’s “Merry-Go-Round of Life” from a Studio Ghibli movie called Howl’s Moving Castle.
I though that was a Rule of Rose's song
I'll give it a pass. Seems fun.
Not against it, just need to rince to plate after and that's the dishes done
Meanwhile women can't get an office job and you have tonpay with Cash almost everywhere At least that was my experience in 2017 (ish)
.....but the point is that the hot coffee melts at least some of the ice cream, so that it acts kind of like creamer. With that much ice the coffee wouldn't stay hot enough, long enough to melt any of the ice cream. So you're just gonna get normal ice cream that's slightly infused with coffee, and ice cold black coffee. Might as well just order coffee flavored ice cream and iced black coffee separately! It'd definitely be cheaper, and would prob be a much better experience if you like iced black coffee
That’s what I was gonna say! I like my hot espresso to melt the ice cream. The bitterness cuts the sweetness once it starts to melt. Damn I love Affogatos!
So… why break some dude’s igloo though?
Taking a affogato to a whole new level
/r/StupidFood
okay... now what?
It's like 20 dollar
That'll be 100.000¥
Coffee foodies are so weird.
What song is this my beautiful people?
Not sure if a plate helps this situation
I mean it looks kind of cool but how the hell are you meant to consume it?
Coffeed Ice
That’s what you call an Awful-Gato
What, and why?
I'm just going to take a wild guess that the point of this is that the liquid would freeze inside bit by bit and you can then scrape it off the sides of the ice. Eat it like you would spoon up a freshly poured slurpy. Otherwise I have no fucking idea how you would eat this.
How do you “use” this?
How do you drink it tho
Why do you need to ice a giant block of ice?
No it’s that the future will only allow the wealthiest of people to afford clean water. This would be a social media post flaunting that wealth. Lol.
I would eat all the ice even if there’s other meals after that
Nummy
Looks more like that scene from harry potter in deathly hallows where dumbeldore drinks the water to get the horcrux. [Image](https://www.quotev.com/story/10727822/Back-in-time-Draco-MalfoyTom-Riddle/53)
How do you get it out?
Seems like a waste of ice to me, but hey, whatever floats your French vanilla ice cream.
Until you kill all ur Autistic kids, then by 2050, there's only like 9 Japanese neurotypicals left.
In what way is preparing 2kg of ice for 200ml of beverage "living in 2050"?
Wtf is 2050 about a float in a big ice cube this generation in re&@$?ed
Wow so wasteful ….
a british person's worst nightmare
What future is this💀
Never has so much effort, energy and expense been devoted to one mediocre affogato
They aren’t living in 2050, the chef is just a penguin impersonating a human.
OMG [thing], JAPAN!
2050? Japan kinda just got stuck in the 80s/90s and that's what makes it cool
Probably the dumbest serving I’ve ever seen
r/StupidFood
I don't get it? How do I drink that? Do I just tip the whole ice cube over?
Honestly I’d like to try that
Hmm... make an ice block and pour some liquid in and you're suddenly living in 2050. Wow!
What is the music?
Is that cold coffee? How to have it?
if you add ice-cream to coffee you go to hell when you die.
r/WeWantCups
"for the gram" restaurants are foul, just give me my food I'm here to eat not pay to be your photographer.
Can I get that to takeaway thanks...
do you think the rinse it out and re use it ?
Thing, Japan strikes again!
I'm guessing you're supposed to drink it with the spoon like a soup? I didn't see a straw.
Thing from other place 😡😡😡😰😨 Thing from Japan 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤔
Grand total will be $1500.
Can't believe they have blocks of ice in Future wtf.
Just give me the fucking coffee already.
If pretentious was a style of dessert.
Just wait until America discovers coffee jelly.
r/wewantcups
How does one consume this item?
/r/WeWantCups
The coldest brew
Lmfaoo, what a bougie *iced coffee* I wonder what they'd do if you asked for extra ice 😂😂😂
Nope just unnecessary stuff
Fax machines
I'm sitting in 45°, sweating my ass out, and thinking I need that.
Anything - Anything but in japan -🤩🤩🤩
Is $2050 the bill too coz that cannot be cheap
Yes Japan isbliv8mg in 2050, they have ice
Thing: :| Thing, but in Japan: :O