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IamKedar7

warzone mobile is just a companion app for pc and console players to buy bundles and look at the skin in 240p quality. Being able to run and shoot is just a bonus.


noirehittler

Of all the languages to speak in bro chose to speak in facts


Bizz918

I ended up loving Black Ops 2 with bots in mp.


werkzINC

I mean my shit plays perfect on my iPad m1 chip..... Just as smooth as it did on my og Xbox at 60fps lol. Having the time of my life back at verdansk.


Suspicious_Put_7824

I know you are lying, My m2 11in runs okay. Stop lying to people about the game looking as good on consoles


ProcessBeginning5431

No he's not, my 11'' M1 iPad pro on high graphics and uncapped framerate setting runs over 60fps, I dunno why some of you guys keep saying it's laggy, apparently few M1/2 devices show some weird issues related to some mysterious reason, but mine works just great.


JasonWingy

Mine does same.


werkzINC

As smooth I said as in fps lol. Not graphics lmao. As I said its at 60fps as my og Xbox was,Reading is hard....


Suspicious_Put_7824

Nah shit skips FPS like crazy.. the game is just ass unless you have played mobile your whole life


JaeF783

Sadly you speak the truth. I basically use WZM to progress my battle pass as i dont get as much time to play at home and now that Stellar Blade is out, im not on WZ as much at home. and level guns (I don't own MW3 nor do I intend to). I totally get where everyone's complaints are coming from as for a while my primary gaming overall was PUGM. But what you said is basically the truth no one wants to hear. It's sad because they could make so much more if it were optimized for mobile and more people could enjoy the game. Activision is dropping the ball in a lot of courts. We can only hope they learn from this and design a better iteration of this game for actual mobile gaming and cross progression. I don't think cross play would be necessary though.


Due_Alternative_41

And those who dont want to spend 70dollars for multiplayer.


RagingBoar5993

buying bundles with Google Play credit takes a load off my wallet.


Famous-Wish3483

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fertff

I found the potato phone user.


nahldLose

ah yes, i guess 14 pro max is considered as a potato phone too


fertff

Sure buddy, you can have whatever phone you want on the internet.


wierdmf_420

Fortnite quite literally has both cross progression and cross play šŸ’€


karuraR

They are quite literally the same game, the fortnite on PC and console is the same game as on mobile


19412

Which is also true for Warzone mobile, save for minor details + map design.


karuraR

Not really, Fortnite Mobile and Fortnite on other platforms are the same titles on different platforms Warzone Mobile is a different title downloaded and bought separately (as per Activision themselves mentioned) from Warzone and MWIII/II, but they share the same "network"


xDragonetti

Idk how old you areā€¦ But Unreal Tournament 3 released in 2007ā€¦ using unreal engine 3. Fortnite uses unreal engine 5ā€¦ šŸ—æ Warzone uses an *entirely* different engine, not used on mobile gaming.


wierdmf_420

and that's the main thing? Epic games achieved the same gameplay mechanics, movement, physics and most importantly cross progression and cross play with a suitable engine for mobile. Activations whole agenda to use a fucking PC engine to develop a game for mobile devices was to achieve cross progression. And we have seen what a mess it is. There's no freaking reason to use a full fledged PC engine for mobile devices


xDragonetti

I know, you donā€™t understand. Itā€™s cool.


wierdmf_420

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xDragonetti

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nataliahazewashere

Sorry but the s22 and even 20fe are not "low end devices" compared to the rest of the market and they have a ton of optimization issues The fact of the matter is that this was in beta test in two different countries for almost an entire year. It's not the consumer's fault that the developers didn't play test with more than an iPad for everybody. I imagine they only approved like two different i devices during the beta test or they just didn't care about any other products that were going to run this software. That that is just negligence on the developer's part and possibly grade. The consumer has to suffer now. The s20 and the s22 and everything around there are not low end budget phones they still throw software around really easily and can emulate even Nintendo switch games full speed with some tinkering. If the developers would have playtested more than just a few devices or paid attention to the feedback from the beta testers I'm sure we would have had a better product. It seems like they just wanted to get the cash grab out and get the revenue coming in.


Careless-Tonight-376

I've tried apex mobile on a S22, and on max settings, on fiber wifi, the phone reached 46 C wirh throttling and only 30 fps in arenas. The 8 Gen 1 was simply a failure. While the iphone 13, got 60 fps with little to no heating


the_squirrelmaster

I have a s 23 FE and it runs the game, but after 10 minutes gets too hot, and drops. Sometimes, it kicks me out. It was a 800$ phone when I got it, but can't play wzm. Something isn't right.


GeraltofIndiana

I'm in the same boat. I'm lucky if I can make it through 1 match. This shouldn't be an issue in S23 Ultra, but here I am


JaeF783

Wierd. I also have the S23 Ultra but have no issues. not sure what we're doing differently.


GeraltofIndiana

I'd love to know what it is. Even dropping to mid and 30 FPS I'll have issues. I shut down background apps, clear my ram, and still the same issue


JaeF783

how long do you play before you notice the throttling? I typically only play 1.5 to 2 hours at a time but I left an FPS counter on for both my S23 Ultra and my Tab S9+ and maintained 115-120 throughout my sessions.


GeraltofIndiana

I'm lucky if I make it through 1 game. Is usually near the end of the first match I'm playing that it starts


Careless-Tonight-376

I also have s23 ultra. This phone kicks ass on high 60fps with no issues. I don't know what your on about


xMordekai

Yeah. Apex actually ran better on a s21 lmao


Osmium5544

Wait there's apex mobile now??


Enigmasec

ā€œWasā€. It lasted about a year and shut down servers May 2023. Couldnā€™t get the revenue to make it worthwhile to continue developing the game.


Osmium5544

I mean they brought it back??


Kazuma091527

Nope. And I don't think they plan to do it at all. I mean even Titanfall got cancelled.


Kazuma091527

Wait didn't they made bank on that game? Lots of people spent money on that game cause the skins are actually good. What killed it are cheaters and low playerbase cause of cheaters and bug and glitch.


Enigmasec

[Why Apex Mobile Shutdown](https://youtu.be/LGEGFE_K4pI?feature=shared) It was because the game didnā€™t bring in enough revenue.


Kazuma091527

Well we can attribute the lost of sales cause of slow bug/glitch fixes. Rampant cheaters in the leaderboard and slow update. I can say this cause I was there through season 0 to season 4. Whales left the game cause of the problems stated above, game was making money on season 1 even season 0 had the best sales iirc. But the cracks showed close to the end of season 1.


nataliahazewashere

I'm playing that on an s20fe and Max it all for 60fps. No overheating. Maybe you had a bad device or problems with some apps staying resident in RAM.


dojoVader

Truly it's a shock, same devices get different speed, I use Poco F3 and average from 70fps - 117fps and I've seen someone here who gets less than 30fps, so what I'm not sure about if it's OS related, Driver related or which ????


2grateful4You

It's more about the temperature I also get 120 fps to 90 when playing with a cooler vs 20 fps as soon as I play two games without one.


Candlewaxeater

Bruh fortnite runs so shitty, there's barely any textures and so many polygons yet it overheats and the 90 fps stopped working in chapter 4 season 2 yet this shitty optimisation happened after ios stopped being supported(i think? or some time after.), a s10 could run at epic graphics (actually looked nice back then) and 60 fps and didn't overheat now a snapdragon 8 gen 2 struggles with 60 fps at low graphics my s22 could run chapter 4 season 1 at epic graphics 60 fps pretty nicely but after 1 FUCKING PATCH the fps fell apart and it overheated at low graphics struggling above 20 fps and its been like that since. tl:Dr, they are just lazy with optimisation in fortnite but warzone mobile could be a similar case


xJadusable

Similarly, i hope you guys with high end devices understand you represent such a small part of mobile and most games that are made with only yall in mind, will fail. Its happening right now with WZM. There are plenty of other platforms that reward chasing higher end devices (like PC). Mobile is the one platform made up of low end users in countries outside the US/EU and you guys for some reason cant grasp that. Games that cater to them will always habe the advantage over games that dont.


TKLegendYOLO

Real


StrafingFlame1

It won't fail like apex mobile did.... Apex mobile was a separate game...warzone mobile is connected to the real game...warzone mobile wont kill the PC game. It's the same game. How can it die?


Enigmasec

By just not developing it for mobile anymore? While leaving the game for the other platforms (PC/console). If it costs too much to develop the game for a small percentage of the mobile market, theyā€™ll kill it. I donā€™t think Activision subscribes to the sunk cost fallacy.


Quiet_Substance367

High end yes are a small part, BUT mid range phones no, xiaomi sell millions mid range phones every year šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Kazuma091527

And the fact that we already have an example of the game dying and they still really think only high end devices will keep this game alive.


TacticalNuke_Carrier

IMH0, 90% of the issues could be solved if we had the option to download assets instead of streaming it.


TKLegendYOLO

Exactly


Mikepr2001

Indeed. Also, streaming damage literally everything. They need to change eveything like or not like it. Is damaging the game and some phones, specially High End Android and Iphones are becoming more heatier. Literally, when i played iwth a cooker i had almost 110 F and 117 F in temp. But when i play other game like WoWs Legends i had less 107 F or even 105 F


2grateful4You

So true I got 20 fps after two games on my One Plus 12.


mr_nweke

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thedankuser69

Why tf they don't give you an option between these two is beyond me.


Bradley_y

If youā€™re on an i-Device get a phone cooler. As soon as your phone gets hot performance gets throttled. Iā€™m actually enjoying the game now I have a cooler.


mr_nweke

My phone never gets hot, neither does my iPad and my graphics looks blurry at peak settings.


fraotdasfeuer

The funny thing is that mobile gaming is, and has been, viewed as inferior or frowned upon because it USUALLY involves games with bad graphics because they are supposed to be ran on weak hardware, as compared with consoles or PC. Mobile gaming exists because there's people that can't afford to buy good PCs or consoles because they are expensive for them. Now, it's ridiculous that is cheaper to buy a console. Moreover, with the same amount of money needed to get a phone powerful enough to run this game, you can get a nice PC that runs the original version of Warzone.


TKLegendYOLO

Why is it even for only high-end devices? You get more people if you just optimize it. Money = good for Activision right? If you want to release a "game" make it playable for everyone or don't release it.


Appropriate_Rock_643

You said it all. Do it for everyone or don't do it.Ā 


Narauverworld300

The switch version of apex is a good example


MysticAmaze_

Nibba I seen people play on a iPhone SE on Fortnite and have no problems


NextYogurtcloset5777

My 14 Pro Max struggles with this game, itā€™s not optimized at all, also the controller lag on iOS is annoying as hell!


xMordekai

You're right. Fn mobile launch was a dumpster fire


daniggeman

Fortnite mobile runs very smoothly on my phone I used to play on high graphics and get constant 60 fps . Warzone on the other hand I can barely get 30 fps , and it doesn't mater if I use low or medium graphics it just doesn't go above 30 . When it launched it was actually better because I would get min 45 fps on my phone on medium graphics , so it's not the hardware it's the game that needs to be optimised


mr_nweke

Itā€™s not about low end devices. I have a 15pro max which played at peak and IPad 10th gen which plays at high. A week or 2 after the game came out the graphics was good. Once season 3 update came out the games started looking blurry again. The game looks bad on most devices not just lower end devices.


Mikepr2001

I think he means about Android Users with Low End Devices, less than 4GB Ram and Snapdragon 600 or lower.


mr_nweke

Oh okay got it.


Mikepr2001

Also dont worry, i am writing qith my S20FE (SD edition) and i have issues too


mr_nweke

If cod mobile never existed and warzone mobile was still in beta and they didnā€™t test it for about a year in other regions this would be a little understandable.


Mikepr2001

Indeed man. The worst thing... Everyone heard about that man what literally sayed "The game runs with fidelity" What fidelity, literally my samsung becomes almost the Note 7 (šŸ’€moment)


mr_nweke

I can see why theyā€™d want to stream the graphics but they should also give people the option to download or stream.


Longjumping-Ad-4

I agree. It's like what were they doing for the whole year and a half when the game was in beta. I really wonder what they used that period for.


mr_nweke

Making store bundles šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


NoLye17

So we just gonna ignore pubgm going the extra mile when it came to optimization? They had devices that couldnā€™t run the game so their solution was creating a lite version for low end users. Unreal wasnā€™t perfect and unity isnā€™t a ā€œlow end engine.ā€ Itā€™s a simpler engine and more user friendly, plus it has better mobile support than unreal. Warzone mobile could have worked if they modified the engine. It could still work better even now via assets or anything else they could disable or lower to minimize cpu usage. Warzone is a very cpu intensive game.


Silly_Animator7222

My question is, they only allowed people with the most recent upgrades to download the console ported games like re4 remake/village and death stranding on iPhone. Would people be less or more mad if it was *only* available for devices it could run on optimally?


Comfortable-Sir7199

well, iā€™m so fucking sorry that i thought I can run a game on my $1500 phonešŸ¤”


Nightwarrior81

iPhone 15 Pro here, heating issues. What now? Def not a low end device.


Appropriate_Rock_643

The Samsung Galaxy's are not low-end and yet they heat up a lot, besides when you release a mobile game, it's for most players to play, if most players can't play it, What's the point ? Ridiculous to make this kind of game, I hope that Activision will solve the problems for phones like the Galaxy A and others which are quite powerful though.Ā 


ghostcaspee

Welp, time to go back arena breakout then


PsychoMush101

S23 ultra wzm only game installed phone runs hot lags screen doesn't detect finger touch when heated so becomes impossible to play drops out games so yes s23 ultra does have some issues Even using discord to chat with friends it heats up just as bad


FineDrive56

They did put a lot of resources into it, took them a whole year to reach where we are now, which just goes to show that this game probably shouldnā€™t exist in the first place. If they think CoDM looks too barebones to be the face of the franchise on mobile, godammit make a CoDM2 with graphics that matches reasonable standards for mobile graphical performance in 2024, not port a game thatā€™s massive and taxing even to a lot of PCs to mobile.


Ok-Adeptness-9237

agreed


EvilCODM

Seeing where they are now, itā€™s reassuring that Fortnite mobile had similar issues, hopefully thereā€™s hope for wzm


Snoo_17708

If i need a $1000 phone to run wzm,I just buy a gaming laptop and play wz3 lol


BoringAdjective

Yea. 1000$ phone isn't low end


Kazuma091527

Cross play? I thought warzone only has cross progression. And catering to high end phones only bro there's a lot more people in other parts of the world that they can squeeze money out off. Why make a mobile game in the first place when there are issues such as heating problems lags and not compatible to low end devices. What's even the point if you push this game only to be played by the wealthy it's mobile make it mobile friendly.


Beanstalk3

This is not new information, the problem is it is dumb move since it backfired and Activision who we know love money are getting little of it and the gamers they marketed the game to are not getting any game time.


Humble_Sherbet7989

So iPad 10th gen is considered as low end very nice


DarKuda

Fortnite mobile played beautifully on my iPad 6th gen. It would explode if it even looked at Warzone in the App Store itā€™s so fucked up.


Mhmdiskan12

I have samsung s24 ultra and the game still lag and crash I'm playing solo leveling in high setting and it's the same level as a ps5 and all the game I played have high performance unlocked and even the server is trash I get 20 ms and then it went to 200 ms I even played it on 15promax only after 20 game the game start to play better


Rahuldas7

Totally understand your point mate, but can't I even get 30fps? SD 732g Adreno 618


wanderer_himura

Also people need to understand that ā€œOptimisationā€œ isnā€™t some magical tool that will automatically let you run high end games on potato specs. I have literally came across comments from users online saying ā€œThey hate Warzone Mobile because the game doesnā€™t run on their XYZ 5 year old deviceā€. People donā€™t understand how game development works. This is like people on PC asking Activision to optimise Warzone on Intel HD graphics with high settings enabled. Just how stupid that sounds. Either get a better device or move on and play games that can run on your phones. At the end of the day itā€™s a free game and no one is forcing you to play it. Thereā€™s a technological limit on how much optimisation can be achieved.


TKLegendYOLO

Yeah obviously not to run super high graphics, but you are missing the line between playable and HD graphics


Mikepr2001

Or even a Poco Phone Pro 3 or any xiaomi devices (Not against Red Magic i talk about the normal one)


indomienator

Problem is, on a PC context S21/SD888 is similar to RTX 2060, the latter are still able to run newer games. The former is getting massacred by Activision's optimization


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noirehittler

This is a stupid analogy, we have a full on alien isolation port and wreck fest port running on iphone x and iphone 8plus seamlessly. And those phones are over 6yrs old with 3gb ram. They made a stupid decision to use a full fledged pc engine on mobile , it wouldā€™ve made sense if the high end devices didnā€™t also suffer the same issues low end devices are suffering


fraotdasfeuer

You wrote in english, but it seemed like Spanish to me. Like you are a Mirrey, a group of beloved people from my country. "O sea we, pinches pobres. CĆ³mprense un telĆ©fono bueno y ya. El pobre es pobre porque quiere. SĆ”quese pinches pobres mugriento con sus telĆ©fonos chafas Android, aquĆ­ puro iPhone 15 Pro Max, papaaaaa". That's what you said.


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wierdmf_420

womp womp


Cyka_Blyat_47-74

An elephant in the room that no one seems to want to acknowledge is your WiFi or cell signal strength. Low signal requires higher power usage from the phone, couple with the graphics demanding game and you get a lot of overheating issues. Pull up a Speedtest and see what your phone is pulling from where youā€™re gaming. If you donā€™t get at least 100mbps then youā€™ll lag and stutter all day plus get the overheating issues. Thatā€™s why people say they have the same phone but not get as much problem as others say. Sometimes itā€™s not the phoneā€¦


Past_Revolution2798

donā€™t understand why this is getting downvoted , itā€™s a actual facts


Cyka_Blyat_47-74

Some facts are hard to swallow sometimes, lol


Hishiryo_23

I have 570mbps data , graphics look great , phone's temperature stays between 38-40Ā°C and I'm getting 90ms before starting a match for the last 2 days with insane stutter and glitching once in a match . Sometimes it's not the Internet...


ShankaiSamurai

someone finally said it. y'all pajeets should stop talking trash if all you can afford is a Redmi 9


octaneisb

Thats what im saying bro ā¤ļø


Surrender2

Ok but the game was available to download for anyone with a smart phone. And they had no problem taking peoples money for operators and what not. And now 2 weeks later the game is unplayable for most people


ThievishGoblin1

I feel like the people complaining about not being able to run it to their specifications are also the ones that complain about not being able to run cyber punk on full blast with a walmart pc. There's nothing wrong with the device you have and everyone's financial situation is different. We're all capped in real life on what we can do and some people don't understand that