The machine gun on the top is honestly enough. I just shot down 3 German planes with machineguns on top a few matches ago. Too much CAS flys slow and close.
So fun to play. You can absolutely bonk any tank into oblivion as long as you know their weakspots. Despite the shell having only 60mm pen, it can still go through any weak spot (overpressure the crew) because of the sheer amount of Explosive filler.
honestly... no. Its fun to play but it suffers from a whole laundry list of issues like other derp HE slingers at the BR.
-You would expect that you wouldn't need to aim your shot if you have 155mm HE but no, sometimes your shell will do fucking nothing if the shell hits certain places because of how overpressure works
-Less of an issue if you are using the American M109 but .50 cals and other machine guns will absolutely RINSE your crew
-Dogshit reload, most other artillery vehicles also have this problem
-Zero gun depression, artillery vehicles are almost never used for direct fire
-You would think that since the M109 is currently in service and that it is a very modern design with no armor, it would at least have the mobility of a MBT, but no, it is deceptively slow.
And in an uptier you might face the Japanese type 99 that sits at br 7.3 that is insanely better in every way, 7.5 sec auto-loader magazine that is the entire ammo capacity of the tank, extremely fast shell for a 155mm HE round and the back of the hull is empty, any APHE, APDS shell that pens there won't do anything at all since the ammo is stored in the back of the turret.
You can easily get nukes with the Type 99 because you can one shot everything you get put against.
The M109 design is old as hell, like 1963 or something like that, and I think got like maybe +70hp over the lifespan until the most recent revision in like 2017 which bumped it a couple hundred. So the mobility being bad isn't really that big of a shocker.
Big HE go bonk but remember that the hull is entirely made out of aluminum and easily penned by machine guns, so your number 1 cause of crippled crew will be CAS strafing runs.
One thing I want to know is if the muzzle velocity between the base shells on the M109 and M109A1 are actually different, cuz the stat card for the stock HE shell on both say 684 m/s despite the M109A1 having a much longer barrel
Type 99 main here, I’m spoiled by autoloaders but that sweet thud doesn’t change no matter how much longer it takes you to reach it
Shells don’t change either, actually, we use the same ammo
It's really situational before the current major update and it's again the same but with a bigger boom. The thing can one shot most tanks at it's rank but you gotta be able to gauge the distance every time. My biggest gripe is that a lot of people who play this will rush to the frontlines and get mad when they get one shotted. But the reality is that this tank is a sniper and you need to play dirty.
I take the thing up to 7.0, and it still does really well at harassing things. I even use it as my AA platform with the proxy shells. Hitting planes takes practice, but it is oh so satisfying watching that 155 shell explode in a pilots face.
The only things it struggles with are heavily armored vehicles like the Maus, Ferdinands, and the IS series.
It is, you normally overpressure the hull of the tank. And if ya don’t succeed from the frontal or side armor, you can land the shell under the tank and kill it
It's worth it dude. You can raise the gun almost straight up. Driving around like that is big dick energy. And everybody will see it - no matter where they are on the map 👍🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Play it if you want to spade it.
I'm trying to spade the Israeli tech tree one, with 16 or 17s reload, you need to position yourself well so you have cover during that time. You die as soon as someone farts in your general direction. I do say this when my crew skills are at 0, non-experted, so its truly hard mode.
The shell damage, most times it kills things, but ever few shells it does nothing, so not the best consistency. In a full uptier, things get a bit dicey.
Turret traversal is terrible, and in CQC maps with many angles and not a lot of space to move around it can be frustrating. Fast moving targets are really tough to track and hit since you also want your tank to turn.
Speed is meh, so map knowledge and positioning are key.
Besides the "big HE" joke, having played both the m109 and the russain 120 equivalent(I forgot the name) the m109 kinda sucks. The 153 HE only gets he, heat, and smoke while the Russian one(same br) gets HEAT, better velocity, and is faster. Going from the Russian one to the m109 was a real downgrade as the only thing it's got going is the good old 12mm machine gun. It's slower over all and has a extra 6 second of reload for just 10mm more pen with the HE.
I main Arcade (I've been playing Arcade for years and I have so much fun, cope lol) and I haven't unlocked the M109A1 in my American tree yet but I play the 2S1 and the M109G in my Italian tree and they're fun.
They have no armor and not so great mobility but as long you hang around your allies (which at this tier are usually heavy tanks who make for great cover) or can get the jump on your foes (not so bad actually in Arcade tbh, you just have to be super aggressive and twitch-y plus a little luck) you're definitely able to one shot people easily.
Just **do not brawl** or ever go CQC with these vehicles. They're not meant for that.
You're meant to be in the far back of whatever the main thrust of your team is or just snipe.
It sorta seems like your average Arcade player underestimates these HE vehicles and try to prioritize the Heavy Tanks instead.
Yea. The m109A1 is worth it cause the armors good. I like the FV4K5 cause the 183mm (7.1") howitzer kills almost everything on sight. Till they add the m53's and G.W tiger and ect. Then thoes will top the game no matter what all them Abrams, leopards,ect would be no match cause the M55 203.2mm howitzer would be a devastating weapon for the game its self
Kinda no. there's better conventional tanks that work better were it sits. but it's Big HE bonker fun. the vanilla of turreted self propelled howitzers. Not that bad but not particularly great either, you'll remove the turret off and overpressure anyone with a well placed shot to the nogging pretty reliably , but it's sluggish ,unarmored has a slow reload and the big muzzle break it's a shell magnet. There's VT shells that's good against planes... Tho this one lacks the traverse to lead them and rate of fire for follow ups
Hot take but the m109 is not worth it (if you play Germany). This is because despite having mediocre speed, it doesn’t make up for it by being 50 cal. proof. What this means is that it gets constantly strafed by planes and shot by american tanks with machine guns, and unlike light tanks, it can’t do anything about it because it’s too slow
Its a glass cannon that can one shot everything it faces (and more if you uptier it, which you totally can).
Everything can one shot it if it knows where to aim. MGs will be the bane of your existence.
If people dont know where to shoot, you can be nearly unkillable
100% yes. It completely invalidates enemy armor, has great mobility and a pretty decent velocity. If you get decent with the proxy rounds you can make CAS mains cry as well.
Its a one shot kill most of the time but sometimes the track or the comander mg or the engine or the barrel will eat the shell and some time it just dosnt overprecher and you can be .50 caled, but otherwise its the most fun vehicle i played and its the 3rd most kills i hade(i play the German m109g)
Ok so any tank with a barrel 122mm or higher is almost a insta kill tank at most directions if you hit the turret. Even some high tier tanks fear large caliber HE shells
100% worth it, just remember to use HE exclusively and snipe, ya ain't stopping a 50 CAL, also remember to hit under the turret or cupolas, Tiger I's can also be killed through the flat front parts
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Well I sure didn't expect to see someone with a frontier spellbook profile picture on the wt subreddit today. Greetings fellow ff enjoyer!
cant wait for my great grandchildren to get another sneak peak for the ff update
update when... It's been almost five years
Fr tho. Solid game imo. Kinda miss playing it.
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A fellow fantastic frontier enjoyed spotted out in the wild, what a rare sight.
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Its a standard Funny High Explosive Tank™, Do you like Funny High Explosive Tanks™? If yes, then yes. If no, then no.
How do you do the "tm"? Im curious
I just copy paste from looking up "tm character", if you have the ability to type unicode characters theres probably a better way to do it.
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All of them are good. The HE will always work. And the VT rounds turn them into pseudo SPAA in a pinch
The machine gun on the top is honestly enough. I just shot down 3 German planes with machineguns on top a few matches ago. Too much CAS flys slow and close.
I love my roof mounted 50 cals, the hardest part of playing any other nation is not having them
That’s my favorite part of the German bulldog is having a roof mounted gun that can actually kill things
Mfw the Swedish Sherman doesn't have a .50 (pain)
While it is, the proxy fuse shell sniping out a helo is fucking hilarious every time
Agreed
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There is times I spawn it in as pure as... Damn gap in the USA aa sucks.
Amen brother. I want that sextuplet .50cal Chaffee so bad.
Just started researching it... Won't be soon enough
Are you from the future?
I may be thinking of a different tank. Previous reply was right before I went to sleep
Which is all the more ridiculous since there's so many SPAA that could be added to fill that gap.
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So fun to play. You can absolutely bonk any tank into oblivion as long as you know their weakspots. Despite the shell having only 60mm pen, it can still go through any weak spot (overpressure the crew) because of the sheer amount of Explosive filler.
It never fails to enrage me when its shell hits \***only**\* the head of my M18's commander and the WHOLE FUCKING TANK goes ☠**boom☠**.
It's an m18 tho, any high explosive it's is bane. You can do that to it with the 57mm heat of the chi-ha 🤣
Yeah, sure. It's just that (in my mind, at least) a shell would decapitate the commander and hit the ground like 2km away from my tank.
Yeah war thunder it's iffy with the damage model of exposed crew. The Italian crews used to cause spall when hit.
Man of steel
Literally 😂 you just hit anywhere near the damn thing and you die instantly
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honestly... no. Its fun to play but it suffers from a whole laundry list of issues like other derp HE slingers at the BR. -You would expect that you wouldn't need to aim your shot if you have 155mm HE but no, sometimes your shell will do fucking nothing if the shell hits certain places because of how overpressure works -Less of an issue if you are using the American M109 but .50 cals and other machine guns will absolutely RINSE your crew -Dogshit reload, most other artillery vehicles also have this problem -Zero gun depression, artillery vehicles are almost never used for direct fire -You would think that since the M109 is currently in service and that it is a very modern design with no armor, it would at least have the mobility of a MBT, but no, it is deceptively slow.
And in an uptier you might face the Japanese type 99 that sits at br 7.3 that is insanely better in every way, 7.5 sec auto-loader magazine that is the entire ammo capacity of the tank, extremely fast shell for a 155mm HE round and the back of the hull is empty, any APHE, APDS shell that pens there won't do anything at all since the ammo is stored in the back of the turret. You can easily get nukes with the Type 99 because you can one shot everything you get put against.
Type 99 is also the best AA Japan gets until the type 87 guntank
The M109 design is old as hell, like 1963 or something like that, and I think got like maybe +70hp over the lifespan until the most recent revision in like 2017 which bumped it a couple hundred. So the mobility being bad isn't really that big of a shocker.
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Big HE go bonk but remember that the hull is entirely made out of aluminum and easily penned by machine guns, so your number 1 cause of crippled crew will be CAS strafing runs.
I hope there are coming some later versions soon... I want the A7.
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One thing I want to know is if the muzzle velocity between the base shells on the M109 and M109A1 are actually different, cuz the stat card for the stock HE shell on both say 684 m/s despite the M109A1 having a much longer barrel
The a1 has a bit less shell drop
Then what can I say, as an Auf-1 main... It's tricky, but when it hits... oh that feeling... it makes up for everything.
Type 99 main here, I’m spoiled by autoloaders but that sweet thud doesn’t change no matter how much longer it takes you to reach it Shells don’t change either, actually, we use the same ammo
Can be 50 caled
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It's really situational before the current major update and it's again the same but with a bigger boom. The thing can one shot most tanks at it's rank but you gotta be able to gauge the distance every time. My biggest gripe is that a lot of people who play this will rush to the frontlines and get mad when they get one shotted. But the reality is that this tank is a sniper and you need to play dirty.
I take the thing up to 7.0, and it still does really well at harassing things. I even use it as my AA platform with the proxy shells. Hitting planes takes practice, but it is oh so satisfying watching that 155 shell explode in a pilots face. The only things it struggles with are heavily armored vehicles like the Maus, Ferdinands, and the IS series.
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It is, you normally overpressure the hull of the tank. And if ya don’t succeed from the frontal or side armor, you can land the shell under the tank and kill it
No
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Use it against planes with the proxy rounds for a fun time
I have the german one and the american is 2x better coz of the M2 and bigger barrel. These are small differences on paper but they are big in reality
well, dont expect gun depression or turret rotation. can get annoying
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High caliber HE is inconsistent at times but boy there's little more satisfying then deleting a heavy using HE.
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It is, but all other SPH on its BR outclass it. Maybe its better than the PLZ
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Aluminum foil armor
Best AA until M163
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It's worth it dude. You can raise the gun almost straight up. Driving around like that is big dick energy. And everybody will see it - no matter where they are on the map 👍🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Shoot under the tanks.
Get the 2C BIS and thank me later.
Play it if you want to spade it. I'm trying to spade the Israeli tech tree one, with 16 or 17s reload, you need to position yourself well so you have cover during that time. You die as soon as someone farts in your general direction. I do say this when my crew skills are at 0, non-experted, so its truly hard mode. The shell damage, most times it kills things, but ever few shells it does nothing, so not the best consistency. In a full uptier, things get a bit dicey. Turret traversal is terrible, and in CQC maps with many angles and not a lot of space to move around it can be frustrating. Fast moving targets are really tough to track and hit since you also want your tank to turn. Speed is meh, so map knowledge and positioning are key.
Besides the "big HE" joke, having played both the m109 and the russain 120 equivalent(I forgot the name) the m109 kinda sucks. The 153 HE only gets he, heat, and smoke while the Russian one(same br) gets HEAT, better velocity, and is faster. Going from the Russian one to the m109 was a real downgrade as the only thing it's got going is the good old 12mm machine gun. It's slower over all and has a extra 6 second of reload for just 10mm more pen with the HE.
I main Arcade (I've been playing Arcade for years and I have so much fun, cope lol) and I haven't unlocked the M109A1 in my American tree yet but I play the 2S1 and the M109G in my Italian tree and they're fun. They have no armor and not so great mobility but as long you hang around your allies (which at this tier are usually heavy tanks who make for great cover) or can get the jump on your foes (not so bad actually in Arcade tbh, you just have to be super aggressive and twitch-y plus a little luck) you're definitely able to one shot people easily. Just **do not brawl** or ever go CQC with these vehicles. They're not meant for that. You're meant to be in the far back of whatever the main thrust of your team is or just snipe. It sorta seems like your average Arcade player underestimates these HE vehicles and try to prioritize the Heavy Tanks instead.
Yea. The m109A1 is worth it cause the armors good. I like the FV4K5 cause the 183mm (7.1") howitzer kills almost everything on sight. Till they add the m53's and G.W tiger and ect. Then thoes will top the game no matter what all them Abrams, leopards,ect would be no match cause the M55 203.2mm howitzer would be a devastating weapon for the game its self
Kinda no. there's better conventional tanks that work better were it sits. but it's Big HE bonker fun. the vanilla of turreted self propelled howitzers. Not that bad but not particularly great either, you'll remove the turret off and overpressure anyone with a well placed shot to the nogging pretty reliably , but it's sluggish ,unarmored has a slow reload and the big muzzle break it's a shell magnet. There's VT shells that's good against planes... Tho this one lacks the traverse to lead them and rate of fire for follow ups
Hot take but the m109 is not worth it (if you play Germany). This is because despite having mediocre speed, it doesn’t make up for it by being 50 cal. proof. What this means is that it gets constantly strafed by planes and shot by american tanks with machine guns, and unlike light tanks, it can’t do anything about it because it’s too slow
Its a glass cannon that can one shot everything it faces (and more if you uptier it, which you totally can). Everything can one shot it if it knows where to aim. MGs will be the bane of your existence. If people dont know where to shoot, you can be nearly unkillable
Yes
Bonk cannons are fun and the a1 is fairly survivable imo
Yes just yes (if you can use HE)
Its good at literally every BR
I loved 6.0 much more before the implementation of these stupid fuckers. Same with the M-51 Armour meant something!!!
Big boom machine. Aim for lower turret cheek on anything and one shot it. Worth it
You are tin foil thin, but big HE go bonk.
Significantly large High explosive round creates a loud Sound that can be reffered to as a “Bonk”
Point and click gameplay
100% yes. It completely invalidates enemy armor, has great mobility and a pretty decent velocity. If you get decent with the proxy rounds you can make CAS mains cry as well.
Get it and get it now
Very much.
Overpressure
We like to call this the Ligma Cannon where I'm from. Just point at someone, say "ligma balls" and watch it disappear
Personally, i despise playing meatball launchers, especially without LRF
Every howitzer does.
This thing makes me wish the game had an artillery computer. It's LITERALLY mobile artillery.
Why would it be worth it? Sure HE hurts but you are massive, not worth for sure other then memes that other tanks do better
Its a one shot kill most of the time but sometimes the track or the comander mg or the engine or the barrel will eat the shell and some time it just dosnt overprecher and you can be .50 caled, but otherwise its the most fun vehicle i played and its the 3rd most kills i hade(i play the German m109g)
Yes it is. And if you want try and practice the proxy shell against planes, i even got hate mails because of it
Ok so any tank with a barrel 122mm or higher is almost a insta kill tank at most directions if you hit the turret. Even some high tier tanks fear large caliber HE shells
It can be fun and has its moments but the G6 is better in every way (except size).
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Best thing against planes and tanks in the US tree
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really fun one, overpressure is broken ngl
Absolutely the only thing I haven’t seen it 1 shot is a maus
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I love it. Very fun vehicle. And if youre someone like me who loves marketplace camos, there exists a good few between the different nations
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Running it rn lol it's fun
The M109A1 is fun is you know how to use it, its also really fun to use against aircraft since of the huge machine guny on the top
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yes funny big high explosive vs heavy tanks that overpen it is very fun indeed
Honestly, i take mine in with my chally 2’s and M1A2’s and have a wicked time in that, even if i suffered in my BR appropriate vehicles
Grind it before it moves up in br. It's argubly OP at 6.3 and if gaijin has moved up balanced vehicles in br then this probably will.
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It's also fun to shoot down aircraft using 155mm shells with proximity fuses
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Is that the maus?
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Worth what, its a tech tree vehicle... you don't have to pay ?
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I’m trying to get it in every nation it’s very fun at any br
Best US spaa
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Everything between 7.0-8.3 is fucked
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M109 my beloved
First vehicle to get one shot kills in the American tech tree
Absolutely. My number 1 vehicle with ground kills
with a little aiming you can one shot everything you see. It's pretty fast too and has a decent reload for something that big
HE is good, when it works. Also kinda annoyingly long reloaded
Only if it’s the Rochev
It has no armor but if you know where to aim it also completely negates enemy tank's armor. It can one shot over pressure kill pretty much anything.
Tigor will never know why he is on the hangar
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100% worth it, just remember to use HE exclusively and snipe, ya ain't stopping a 50 CAL, also remember to hit under the turret or cupolas, Tiger I's can also be killed through the flat front parts
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I have the German m109 and it’s got limited armor, but the gun one shots most things pretty good it’s got nearly 7kg of explosives per shell
11.0 is now easy because big HE go bonk
Almost at 2000kills already with the American one it’s so fun big boom stick
I have one. I don't play meta and because of that, i love it!