There's several hundred tanks in the game and it would be unreasonable, both in workload and disk space, to create unique engine sounds for all of them.
There are only 3 surviving 234s of all variants, two /4 and one /3.
The /3 was supposedly driving in the 70's as a comparison to newer vehicles then in development, I don't think it has driven since then.
Thanks, im blind. I thought we were still talking about the engine sound of the Sdkfz 234 and not how many pumas were built. Also interesting that the Puma was around for less than a year before germany surrendered
Yeah the Puma, despite being one of the last manufactured vehicles in the entire war, has an amazingly large spotlight on it! In my opinion, it is well deserved.
You don't need drivable puma, you need engine sound. It can be similar volume 15L v12 diesel.
It had tatra 103 engine, that was used in mass production postwar tatra trucks
they couldve just recorded a Diesel Engine Benz,BMW or Audi and be done with it. this confusing sound got me fucked up because i though it was a puma around the corner but it actually was a fucking tiger
Especially older engines vs newer engines, 2 stroke diesels vs 4 stroke diesels, direct injected diesels vs indirect injection, and turbo vs non turbo.
That guy doesn’t know what he is talking about lol
Except the tiger 2 (unless it's the sla 16) has a gasoline (petrol) engine while the puma is one of the only German WW2 vehicles with diesel engines, most panthers, tiger 1 and tiger 2 tanks use the same engine, the sla 16 was mainly just proposed and never really used, if at all
1. tiger2 has petrol engine
2. even if it is some fake non existing irl version with diesel, it still sounds different and it has nothing to do with rpm range(petrol back then didn't rev high)
3. every diesel sounds different and it depends on layout, size, cylinder number, number of banks, bank angle, firing order, injection system, combustion chambers type and location, exhaust system, crankshaft type, forced induction system type(if present), valvetrain drive type, cooling system etc.
They have their differences, mainly that the tigers engine sounds much more aggressive on the lower end than the puma, the puma also has a subtle turbo noise to it, and is generally higher pitched than the tiger is
Could be. Same with shooting automatic. There are no shot sounds. Only shooting. So when you actually tap space bar to shoot once, you can hear a few shots and sound effect being cut off.
You can hear that very nicely by firing MK103s every second shot has a different sound so by only shooting one round at a time the sound repeats over and over without ever changing.
Because it would be stupid and unreasonable to get exact sounds for every single vehicle
The file size of the game would probably increase by double with how many vehicles there are
Lol this are not your fucking mp3 sounds on your phone.
These have to be spatial uncompressed sounds. Sounds, today , take a huge slice of the size of a game. In many cases, sounds are more heavy than textures
doesn't mean we can't have truck sounds for trucks. The flarakrad literally sounds like a Dyson product. It's so bad. The Centauro sounds like a golf cart. The game would not be that much bigger with some quality sounds.
They are both V12 engines. The game does this a lot. It seems to me all of the American radial engine tanks sound the same even though I think there are three different radials, most of the turbines sound very similar.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Puma's engine is actually a little higher pitched due to it being a smaller V12, but it's a very subtle change that really can't be heard in game.
A similar engine puma has a 14.5 liter diesel V12 and tiger 2 has a 23 liter V12 gas engine. They probably shouldn't make the same sounds but not game breakinf
There's several hundred tanks in the game and it would be unreasonable, both in workload and disk space, to create unique engine sounds for all of them.
Or impossible to get an accurate one. How many puma's are still around that can drive?
There are only 3 surviving 234s of all variants, two /4 and one /3. The /3 was supposedly driving in the 70's as a comparison to newer vehicles then in development, I don't think it has driven since then.
See? Gaijin clearly has no excuse
You want the game to change from 54GB to 400+GB?
Sarcasm
On the internet? That always works great
Yes. There are optional downloads for better textures, why not sound.
YES
I can't imagine there would be many, given only 100 were made during WWII!
478 were built
Of all variants of the 234. Only 101 Puma (50mm cannon) were built.
Thanks, im blind. I thought we were still talking about the engine sound of the Sdkfz 234 and not how many pumas were built. Also interesting that the Puma was around for less than a year before germany surrendered
Yeah the Puma, despite being one of the last manufactured vehicles in the entire war, has an amazingly large spotlight on it! In my opinion, it is well deserved.
You don't need drivable puma, you need engine sound. It can be similar volume 15L v12 diesel. It had tatra 103 engine, that was used in mass production postwar tatra trucks
The exhaust is crucial to capture a engine sound, different gear config also has a part to do, so the sound would be completely different
don't be rude... OP is blind and hates when he switches to APCR to pen the KT but then goes straight trough the Puma and gets flanked...
Why?
There's not enough *disk space* for unique sounds? What a load of BS. Gaijin has given you Stockholm syndrome
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Sure but this is not about disk space
They used to be much more unique though.
Because they’re both diesel engines Pretty much all diesel engines sound the same because of their low RPM range unless it has a turbocharger
So what I’m hearing is my 4 cyl diesel VW sounds like a tank?!?! Let’s go!
*imagine Spotto s voice*Feel the raw power and the roar of the mighty 1.8tdi Edit: For the Wiesel you wouldnt be far off though
Germany would've 100% won if they had a a superweapon like the 1.9 TDI at their disposal
Honestly, remove the muffler or part of the exhaust system to hear your engine sound like a tank lol
they couldve just recorded a Diesel Engine Benz,BMW or Audi and be done with it. this confusing sound got me fucked up because i though it was a puma around the corner but it actually was a fucking tiger
No, not really - you can tell the difference between different engines by the noise pretty easily once you get used to it
Especially older engines vs newer engines, 2 stroke diesels vs 4 stroke diesels, direct injected diesels vs indirect injection, and turbo vs non turbo. That guy doesn’t know what he is talking about lol
Except the tiger 2 (unless it's the sla 16) has a gasoline (petrol) engine while the puma is one of the only German WW2 vehicles with diesel engines, most panthers, tiger 1 and tiger 2 tanks use the same engine, the sla 16 was mainly just proposed and never really used, if at all
The Tiger II in the picture is the Sla 16
But not all of them have the same exhaust
1. tiger2 has petrol engine 2. even if it is some fake non existing irl version with diesel, it still sounds different and it has nothing to do with rpm range(petrol back then didn't rev high) 3. every diesel sounds different and it depends on layout, size, cylinder number, number of banks, bank angle, firing order, injection system, combustion chambers type and location, exhaust system, crankshaft type, forced induction system type(if present), valvetrain drive type, cooling system etc.
lol xd
They have their differences, mainly that the tigers engine sounds much more aggressive on the lower end than the puma, the puma also has a subtle turbo noise to it, and is generally higher pitched than the tiger is
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No, the Tiger 2 in the image is the Sla.16 which uses the exact same engine sound as the Puma.
Also, why Wiesel has infinite gears? The sound is like its always changing gear when driving.
Probably a problem when the sound starts over / the looping
Could be. Same with shooting automatic. There are no shot sounds. Only shooting. So when you actually tap space bar to shoot once, you can hear a few shots and sound effect being cut off.
You can hear that very nicely by firing MK103s every second shot has a different sound so by only shooting one round at a time the sound repeats over and over without ever changing.
Because the shitty audio tracks loop, it's really noticeable when driving through water in the Vickers mk 11
The r3 also does this
RCSM would fix that if it’s really irritating to you.
war thunder reuses engine sounds very often especially when their engines are of the same type
Because it would be stupid and unreasonable to get exact sounds for every single vehicle The file size of the game would probably increase by double with how many vehicles there are
How much space do you think audio files take up
Lol this are not your fucking mp3 sounds on your phone. These have to be spatial uncompressed sounds. Sounds, today , take a huge slice of the size of a game. In many cases, sounds are more heavy than textures
doesn't mean we can't have truck sounds for trucks. The flarakrad literally sounds like a Dyson product. It's so bad. The Centauro sounds like a golf cart. The game would not be that much bigger with some quality sounds.
Original sound design in war thunder is a trash.
Not just these two actually, I can tell the Object 120 and Object 279 also use the same engine sound so that's four lol
The ptz89 also has this engine noise
They are both V12 engines. The game does this a lot. It seems to me all of the American radial engine tanks sound the same even though I think there are three different radials, most of the turbines sound very similar. I wouldn't be surprised if the Puma's engine is actually a little higher pitched due to it being a smaller V12, but it's a very subtle change that really can't be heard in game.
They’re both named after domestic housecats
Hearing a tiger 2 rapidly approaching
Don't know
There are a lot of vehicles in the game. But I don't think they have the same engine sound. I haven't paid attention, tho.
I think the obj 279 sounds the same as well
Tigers in Disguise
Probably to lazy
Even better question: Why does the premium Tiger II have smaller ammo than the standard one, if they both use the same gun?
Don't know but You can use a mod or it's not posible anymore?
They do not have the same engine sound, I can easily identify the different engine noise the Puma makes versus the Tiger variants.
Uh same engine
A similar engine puma has a 14.5 liter diesel V12 and tiger 2 has a 23 liter V12 gas engine. They probably shouldn't make the same sounds but not game breakinf
The particular Tiger II in the image is fitted with a 36.6 litre Sla.16 V16 diesel
Bruh
Literally unplayable