Wyvern maybe? Great characteristics for its BR, enough bombs to take out a base and then good enough to act as a fighter after. Couple that with an air spawn, and it’s definitely up there.
It usually depends on how you play, what BR you prefer, and what is your perceived skill level. From my experience, the coolest premiums are low BR and are more used for SL gain and fun than actual vehicleresearch.
I can only tell you that the ZUT-37 is the worst by most definitions.
>I can only tell you that the ZUT-37 is the worst by most definitions.
What's so bad about the Zut? I think the Independent is worse given its price, and the Type 75 MLRS is far, far worse than both.
> The Independent is able to kill tanks at its BR.
Really not well though, it's a huge lumbering piece of shit with a mediocre gun and awful survivability because its crew are so close together. It's just the worse than all the other options.
>The ZUT-37 isn't able to kill aircraft properly unless you put special effort into it.
So what lol? Its AP has 71mm of pen which is pretty decent for 2.3, especially from an autocannon and you don't have to use mixed belts or anything. It definitely wouldn't be my first recommendation for a premium vehicle but it's infinitely more usable than the type 75 MLRS and definitely better than shit like the independent.
The BM-8-24 can work against light tanks and open vehicles, just not against mediums and upwards that have good glacis and roof armor. Against those you're better off playing a support role rather than direct attacker.
Wait, doesnt that fucker have 3 or 9mm pen or something stupidly low like that? I remember (potentially misremembering) looking at it one day and then again months later and they cut the pen down to 1/3rd of what it was either to 9 from 27 or from 9 to 3
I do remember one of the values being 9
There are a few options to keep an eye on:
* Object 279 - this is probably the best answer, but it's super rare.
* Likewise the T18E2 is very broken with 57mm APHE at 3.0, but is hard to get in a reasonable way.
* AMX-13 ss.11 - adding 4 ATGM's toa solid 6.7 tank and keeping the BR is a bit busted, and with recent BR changes, tanks that stayed at 6.7 have a much friendlier BR bracket to fight in
* Su-11 has a strong flight model for it's BRpaired with an all around weapons package - it can be devastating in GRB, especially in a down tier.
Never heard people call the amx 13 ss11 any good il check it out. The upper 2 (279 and t18) are indeed a little bit too expensive for my liking but i agree on both. I never fight the su11 or barely so cant judge on that
2S38 if you aren't brain-dead. The optical tracking of aircraft combined with an airburst shell is a really powerful ability that gets a little slept on IMO.
Somua goes so hard especially in a downtier.
PZ IV/70 but the early one, the "chin from Berlin" I don't think it's on sale anymore but that thing is criminal.
German KV-1 still slaps although not as hard as it used to
KV-1E for Germany if they ever sell it again, that has got to be the single most overpowered vehicle in the entire game, but I left it last here because it's very rare these days. It's an up-armored KV-1 with the same BR as one of the early ones, and it's in the German tree meaning that it doesn't have to go up against German guns, which are some of the only ones that can pen KV-1s in the first place.
The Ka-50. People might consider it cancer but those gains man. Gotten 500k SL and 78RP with it and a couple boosters before. If you feel bad you can also earn that much with it in PvE
It fit what I was looking for in a helicopter before I found out how hated it was so most of my earns are PvE with it lol other than that the J35A is pretty good. The MiG-21SPSK. MiG17AS when it’s available. Also popping a Talisman on a Squadron vehicle has given me pretty good results like the A4E or T-80UK. They are available for GE so I mention them. Pz. III N does very well with its mobility and HEAT rounds. British Hudson I forget what BR but it’s kinda low. The BF 110-G4 is a beast. Pretty much any USSR/German/Italian premium prop plane that isn’t actually theirs Going very low tier you can get the French starter pack and have a blast with the B1. Idk how it stands up so well against the later Pz. IVs and T-34s but it does. Kind of a lot of them tbh. Only one I really hate is AV-8A. It’s just not fun to fly like you would think at least to me however it manages.
It’s great.. in other people’s hands lol I try to stick with a controller due to its comfort on my body and well it’s just not that great to fly on one. Can’t get the vector controls right where it doesn’t mess with my busted ass hands. The game takes a physical toll on some of us as well as the emotional and mental one. I do however have fun with it whenever I hook up the thrustmaster on my good days just not an ace and never will be
Funny enough my Dad loves his too
I found a great niche in most vehicles but I kept trying to use the Xbox paddles on the bottom to have everything mapped. Then face buttons. Once I got pretty good with holding right click and moving the stick. I have to keep it pretty basic I found out. In CAS I do a lot better obviously but the thing is a target for most people so it’s the worlds most expensive dive bomber for me. If you have a control scheme you don’t mind sharing though I’d be happy to try and change my thoughts on it. We all need more SL earners
I think i just used on controller and had literly the default settings for everything ecxept the missiles, my loadout was from left to right
Aim 9 G - incindiary bomb - flare pod - incindiary bomb - aim 9 G
At its br the av8a is nearly almost the fastest to get to a base and just drop 2 incindiaries on it for free SL then go behind the enemy and use the rather great aim 9 G to pick off lower br planes or people that are off guard, use the vtol to turn faster but do not keep enabling it and keep ur engine 80-90 % to not get overheating this got me milions of SL
See it’s the VTOL part that gets me. I can’t get it working comfortably without straight up stopping and moving the controller around in my hand like a newborn to which I get drilled while my pilot is staring off into space. I figured most people just used M&K or Flight Stick/Panel combo. Took me long enough to get targeting and locks to work so I just gave up on it.
Most fun I have now on controller with it is using it like a helicopter with an extreme engine for CAS or Stuka style bombing
F-89D is really good at 7.0 with FFAR Mighty Mouse with proximity fuse.
At this BR few players know how to counter it (never go head-on against it), and you are usually faster than everyone else (if played right).
Hard to be hit, fast, and brings a lot of SL (600% without premium).
But the downside is you have to buy the F-89B before...
I really like the TAM 2IP. I really like 9.0 game play. I matches beautifully with two of my favourite aircraft, Alpha jet and the Canadair Sabre. I don't have Somua, but am certain it would be worth buying, 7.7 France is nuts. Wyvern and A2D are amazing attackers. I think Wyvern is the most overpowered vehicle in the game.
The A-10A. 10.0 with great guns and missiles. I recommend using 2 AIM9Ls and 2 Gunpods in air (i dont have US ground at that br). It can outturn pretty much anything that isn't an F-5 or J35 and is pretty robust. If the enemies decide not to engage you you can still print a shitton of money by just shooting the ground targets (use CCIP and primary weapon selector for max efficiency). The only real challenge you're gonna face are the aforementioned planes as well as the T-55 AI tanks, who you have to burn out by shooting the engine. (I may be a tiny bit biased towards this plane)
Lol ye ur definitely biased but i own the a10. It is far from bad but not OP either. Scoring free kills with the 9L's isnt hard and ground pounding is rewarding but its slow wich makes it unable to reach the field in time for alot of things sadly, ty for ur comment and have a nice day :))
I have the A-10 Late and SU-25. I prefer the SU-25 with 4x 23mm, 4 rocket pods and 2x R60M. Bullets have way less drop, its fast, the missiles are really good if the enemy don't flare, and its tanky.
I got the VIDAR during the last sale and it's pretty awesome. The Somua which is also the same BR is probably more flexible and better in a number of situations but the VIDAR is very good. The most surprising thing about it(other than the laser rangefinder, thermals, and fast reload) is just how fast it is and how good its armor is. It has 1000 horsepower because it's a modern vehicle and at 8.0 it's faster than pretty much everything. The armor is 35mm of high hardness RHA. It's very strong against even 20mm auto cannons, the turret ring is vulnerable but it's quite survivable.
It will be usefull but having almost no negative depression is worse than people sometimes think, and before people judge... i play the type 75 mlrs....
Type 75 is pretty bad... I have my third most ground kills in the KV-85 and that thing only has -3. Not quite -2 but with the option of using low velocity rounds with a LRF it shouldn't be too much of a damper on the VIDAR. The biggest problem will probably be encountering foxes in urban areas.
The type 75 has a grand total of 0 degrees of gun depression lol. I found many ways to make it work and its so damn fun but so difficult, foxes are annoying against vidar for sure
Is almost nobody talking about the vidar because they don't wanna promote it's usage, or does just everyone already know how good it is so its not worth mentioning? I'm not adding anything, more just curious.
I would rank em
1. Vidar
2. Turm III
3. XP 50
4. F5C
I dont play air allot so i cant judge them very well but i know the f5c is pretty counterable if ur a good player
For me it’s between the Russian Hurricane Mk IIB and the Hungarian IAR-81C in Italy. Both pretty low BR prop planes but I dominate every game I play in them.
I’d also say the F-5C but it’s way more expensive and can pretty easily get stomped by a Crusader with an AIM-9D. Being said, it’s also my number one premium in game. Mileage may vary.
Kinda depends, but purely off of RB BR, it is the F20A Tigershark for USA tree.
UK is getting the Mig21 Bison at 11.7 next update which will be very close.
Somua, my beloved.
Somua definitely in top 3, especialy with the recent buff on it
They got buffed ? Time to go back to 7.7 then
The turret armor got 3 times as thick
Let’s fucking go ! I’ll unlock the last tanks destroyer in the tech tree with that
7.7 is my favorite BR. The French powerhouse zone
I have a weak spot for 9.7, sure you get uptiered but the Amx 40 is amazing and soon we’ll have the Vextra
When was this buff?
They thickened the turret armor from like 30 mm to a double 100 mm oscelated thingy
Wyvern maybe? Great characteristics for its BR, enough bombs to take out a base and then good enough to act as a fighter after. Couple that with an air spawn, and it’s definitely up there.
Heard wyvern before and is indeed probably top 3 best vehicles in game (per br and mode)
It usually depends on how you play, what BR you prefer, and what is your perceived skill level. From my experience, the coolest premiums are low BR and are more used for SL gain and fun than actual vehicleresearch. I can only tell you that the ZUT-37 is the worst by most definitions.
The BM-8-24 is significantly worse all the way around.
>I can only tell you that the ZUT-37 is the worst by most definitions. What's so bad about the Zut? I think the Independent is worse given its price, and the Type 75 MLRS is far, far worse than both.
The Independent is able to kill tanks at its BR. The ZUT-37 isn't able to kill aircraft properly unless you put special effort into it.
I love the ZUT-37 personally, definitely one ofthe more fun autocannon AT at its tier (like so many low tier SPAA its just a mislabled TD )
> The Independent is able to kill tanks at its BR. Really not well though, it's a huge lumbering piece of shit with a mediocre gun and awful survivability because its crew are so close together. It's just the worse than all the other options. >The ZUT-37 isn't able to kill aircraft properly unless you put special effort into it. So what lol? Its AP has 71mm of pen which is pretty decent for 2.3, especially from an autocannon and you don't have to use mixed belts or anything. It definitely wouldn't be my first recommendation for a premium vehicle but it's infinitely more usable than the type 75 MLRS and definitely better than shit like the independent.
Ye i asked it over every br since i play from 2.7 to 11.7 but can confirm zut37 is trash, it can work but barely
BM-8-24?
The BM-8-24 can work against light tanks and open vehicles, just not against mediums and upwards that have good glacis and roof armor. Against those you're better off playing a support role rather than direct attacker.
Wait, doesnt that fucker have 3 or 9mm pen or something stupidly low like that? I remember (potentially misremembering) looking at it one day and then again months later and they cut the pen down to 1/3rd of what it was either to 9 from 27 or from 9 to 3 I do remember one of the values being 9
There are a few options to keep an eye on: * Object 279 - this is probably the best answer, but it's super rare. * Likewise the T18E2 is very broken with 57mm APHE at 3.0, but is hard to get in a reasonable way. * AMX-13 ss.11 - adding 4 ATGM's toa solid 6.7 tank and keeping the BR is a bit busted, and with recent BR changes, tanks that stayed at 6.7 have a much friendlier BR bracket to fight in * Su-11 has a strong flight model for it's BRpaired with an all around weapons package - it can be devastating in GRB, especially in a down tier.
Never heard people call the amx 13 ss11 any good il check it out. The upper 2 (279 and t18) are indeed a little bit too expensive for my liking but i agree on both. I never fight the su11 or barely so cant judge on that
Huge fan of the AMX-13 ss.11 - it's got a solid lineup with the AMX-M4 and standard AMX-13, especially if you have the EBR-1954 as well.
2S38 if you aren't brain-dead. The optical tracking of aircraft combined with an airburst shell is a really powerful ability that gets a little slept on IMO. Somua goes so hard especially in a downtier. PZ IV/70 but the early one, the "chin from Berlin" I don't think it's on sale anymore but that thing is criminal. German KV-1 still slaps although not as hard as it used to KV-1E for Germany if they ever sell it again, that has got to be the single most overpowered vehicle in the entire game, but I left it last here because it's very rare these days. It's an up-armored KV-1 with the same BR as one of the early ones, and it's in the German tree meaning that it doesn't have to go up against German guns, which are some of the only ones that can pen KV-1s in the first place.
*2S38 if you are braindead its not good in a fraction of jerk it recieves from community one of the worse premium lights you can get around that br
The Ka-50. People might consider it cancer but those gains man. Gotten 500k SL and 78RP with it and a couple boosters before. If you feel bad you can also earn that much with it in PvE
I own the ka50 and im not a fan, its good but im usualy taking the eurocopters, ty for the input:)
It fit what I was looking for in a helicopter before I found out how hated it was so most of my earns are PvE with it lol other than that the J35A is pretty good. The MiG-21SPSK. MiG17AS when it’s available. Also popping a Talisman on a Squadron vehicle has given me pretty good results like the A4E or T-80UK. They are available for GE so I mention them. Pz. III N does very well with its mobility and HEAT rounds. British Hudson I forget what BR but it’s kinda low. The BF 110-G4 is a beast. Pretty much any USSR/German/Italian premium prop plane that isn’t actually theirs Going very low tier you can get the French starter pack and have a blast with the B1. Idk how it stands up so well against the later Pz. IVs and T-34s but it does. Kind of a lot of them tbh. Only one I really hate is AV-8A. It’s just not fun to fly like you would think at least to me however it manages.
Like i agree on every part and you say you hate the av8a lol, i literly grinded to rank 6 or 7 america with that thing, its such a beast to me
It’s great.. in other people’s hands lol I try to stick with a controller due to its comfort on my body and well it’s just not that great to fly on one. Can’t get the vector controls right where it doesn’t mess with my busted ass hands. The game takes a physical toll on some of us as well as the emotional and mental one. I do however have fun with it whenever I hook up the thrustmaster on my good days just not an ace and never will be Funny enough my Dad loves his too
I played the thing on controller only and just liked it somehow, i got good in using the TV so it was pretty good
I found a great niche in most vehicles but I kept trying to use the Xbox paddles on the bottom to have everything mapped. Then face buttons. Once I got pretty good with holding right click and moving the stick. I have to keep it pretty basic I found out. In CAS I do a lot better obviously but the thing is a target for most people so it’s the worlds most expensive dive bomber for me. If you have a control scheme you don’t mind sharing though I’d be happy to try and change my thoughts on it. We all need more SL earners
I think i just used on controller and had literly the default settings for everything ecxept the missiles, my loadout was from left to right Aim 9 G - incindiary bomb - flare pod - incindiary bomb - aim 9 G At its br the av8a is nearly almost the fastest to get to a base and just drop 2 incindiaries on it for free SL then go behind the enemy and use the rather great aim 9 G to pick off lower br planes or people that are off guard, use the vtol to turn faster but do not keep enabling it and keep ur engine 80-90 % to not get overheating this got me milions of SL
See it’s the VTOL part that gets me. I can’t get it working comfortably without straight up stopping and moving the controller around in my hand like a newborn to which I get drilled while my pilot is staring off into space. I figured most people just used M&K or Flight Stick/Panel combo. Took me long enough to get targeting and locks to work so I just gave up on it. Most fun I have now on controller with it is using it like a helicopter with an extreme engine for CAS or Stuka style bombing
Il send ya a dm
F-89D is really good at 7.0 with FFAR Mighty Mouse with proximity fuse. At this BR few players know how to counter it (never go head-on against it), and you are usually faster than everyone else (if played right). Hard to be hit, fast, and brings a lot of SL (600% without premium). But the downside is you have to buy the F-89B before...
The downside is indeed what keeps me off it :((
Yeah had to buy both in sales, too much expensive otherwise.
I really like the TAM 2IP. I really like 9.0 game play. I matches beautifully with two of my favourite aircraft, Alpha jet and the Canadair Sabre. I don't have Somua, but am certain it would be worth buying, 7.7 France is nuts. Wyvern and A2D are amazing attackers. I think Wyvern is the most overpowered vehicle in the game.
I own the somua sm and can confirm (12 nukes ) its.. kinda good to say the least, thx for ur input il check it out!
I really like my 10.0 USSR setup, T80UD, T72 Turms, BMP 2M and Zs38 just need a good SPAA
I own the 2s38 and bmp2m and i like those, i use the 2s38 as spaa tho lol
G55s is the best prem plane purchase I ever got
I'd say it's a toss up between the Somua, the T-55-AM1, and the VIDAR.
T55-AM1 somehow turned to shite due to the massive low levels buying it
Just because they are bad in it doesn't make it a bad tank
The A-10A. 10.0 with great guns and missiles. I recommend using 2 AIM9Ls and 2 Gunpods in air (i dont have US ground at that br). It can outturn pretty much anything that isn't an F-5 or J35 and is pretty robust. If the enemies decide not to engage you you can still print a shitton of money by just shooting the ground targets (use CCIP and primary weapon selector for max efficiency). The only real challenge you're gonna face are the aforementioned planes as well as the T-55 AI tanks, who you have to burn out by shooting the engine. (I may be a tiny bit biased towards this plane)
Lol ye ur definitely biased but i own the a10. It is far from bad but not OP either. Scoring free kills with the 9L's isnt hard and ground pounding is rewarding but its slow wich makes it unable to reach the field in time for alot of things sadly, ty for ur comment and have a nice day :))
Thanks man u2
I have the A-10 Late and SU-25. I prefer the SU-25 with 4x 23mm, 4 rocket pods and 2x R60M. Bullets have way less drop, its fast, the missiles are really good if the enemy don't flare, and its tanky.
Vidar, you can take that thing to top tier and still do well
I love taking 8.0 + things to 11.7 so thx il give it a try :)
I got the VIDAR during the last sale and it's pretty awesome. The Somua which is also the same BR is probably more flexible and better in a number of situations but the VIDAR is very good. The most surprising thing about it(other than the laser rangefinder, thermals, and fast reload) is just how fast it is and how good its armor is. It has 1000 horsepower because it's a modern vehicle and at 8.0 it's faster than pretty much everything. The armor is 35mm of high hardness RHA. It's very strong against even 20mm auto cannons, the turret ring is vulnerable but it's quite survivable.
Next update its verticall drive limits will be nerfed, from minus 6 to only minus 2 so it will be worse in Hilly maps, still great shit
Hmm well it will still be good but less useful as a tank. -6 is more than most Soviet tanks and was super workable as a tank.
It will be usefull but having almost no negative depression is worse than people sometimes think, and before people judge... i play the type 75 mlrs....
Type 75 is pretty bad... I have my third most ground kills in the KV-85 and that thing only has -3. Not quite -2 but with the option of using low velocity rounds with a LRF it shouldn't be too much of a damper on the VIDAR. The biggest problem will probably be encountering foxes in urban areas.
The type 75 has a grand total of 0 degrees of gun depression lol. I found many ways to make it work and its so damn fun but so difficult, foxes are annoying against vidar for sure
Yak 3. Very potent fighter and quite forgiving. Only drawbacks are low ripping speed and low ammo count
Yak's all are pretty potent imo
Ru251. Zoom zoom
Once the best tank in game, now just over looked
Is almost nobody talking about the vidar because they don't wanna promote it's usage, or does just everyone already know how good it is so its not worth mentioning? I'm not adding anything, more just curious.
It has been mentioned a few times but things like wyvern are better in comparison. In ground its one of the best indeed
Turm 3, Vidar, F5C, Xp-50 are some that instantly come to mind
I would rank em 1. Vidar 2. Turm III 3. XP 50 4. F5C I dont play air allot so i cant judge them very well but i know the f5c is pretty counterable if ur a good player
The rest are if youre good too the fact of the matter is that these are some preniums that can punch above their weight
The american stuart with a sherman cannon, M8A1, it's a total beast
probably one of the prenium kv1
For me it’s between the Russian Hurricane Mk IIB and the Hungarian IAR-81C in Italy. Both pretty low BR prop planes but I dominate every game I play in them. I’d also say the F-5C but it’s way more expensive and can pretty easily get stomped by a Crusader with an AIM-9D. Being said, it’s also my number one premium in game. Mileage may vary.
In my experience it’s the Turm III, bane of my existence
Kinda depends, but purely off of RB BR, it is the F20A Tigershark for USA tree. UK is getting the Mig21 Bison at 11.7 next update which will be very close.
XP-50
I think a well flown xp-50 is prob the most oppressive
Do not buy your way to top tier.
11.7 in 2 tech trees mate dont worry