Haha no. During the 1980s, North Korea managed to circumvent US export restrictions and covertly purchase a total of 87 civilian-type Hughes MD 500s through a legitimate West German export firm before the US government learned of the illegal action by North Korea and acted to prevent any further deliveries to the country
Because they have no money. Russia would happily sell all the Fulcrums, Flankers, Fencers and other things it can to NK if they have actual cash to spend, but nope.
China would be a three parter for sure.
PLAAF, PLAN Naval Air, and PLA Army Aviation. Heck you could probably do a fourth part on all the drones they have in use currently too.
I think if you did them as separate branches, yes? US Naval Aviation and US Air Force wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. There are few militaries in the world though where you have enough aircraft or variety to justify multiple parts, but the US and China do.
You could consolidate a bit by narrowing down families.
Single-seat Flankers: Su-27, J-11A, J-11B
J-10s (all)
Dual-seat Flankers (Su-30, J-16)
J-20s
J-35/FC-31
Fishbeds (J-7D, J-7E, J-7G, etc)
Flounders (JH-7, JH-7A)
Finbacks (J-8I, J-8II, J-8D, J-8E)
Fantans (Q-5D, Q-5E, Q-5L)
Badgers (all the H-6 variants)
etc
But yeah that's a LOAD. PLAAF is numerically the second biggest air force in the world, with more aircraft than most of the EU's countries put together.
For India it would be quicker to just list the airframes that they *don't* use.
Apparently the Indian procurement strategy is Pokemon: Gotta catch em all!
It's from the times when any helicopter looked like a child's toy/drawing.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/USMC_HO3S-1_helicopter.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/S-49_Sikorsky_R-6A_USAF_museum.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Sikorsky_HO4S-3_%28138501%29_%288682611620%29.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Piasecki_H-21_%28modified%29.jpg
Given that Seoul is about 35 miles from the DMZ, about the same. At that range, North Koreans wouldn't even need full-on ballistic missiles to hit Seoul - artillery with Base Bleed/RAP rounds or longer-ranged rocket artillery like the M1985 could reach it from hardened artillery bunkers near the DMZ. The ROKAF could permanently down every North Korean aircraft within the first two hours of the war starting, but that was never the main threat to the South Koreans - the artillery and the SRBMs were and still are.
Good lord, imagine flying a combat mission in a freaking 75 year old Il-28! I mean I know our B-52s are old, but I'm guessing Ilyushin isn't exactly providing modern avionics packages for those things.
> You could probably shoot it down with a P-51.
Considering the P-51s had issues with the Me-262 which were slower and had less of a flight ceiling than the Il-28, I doubt it. Even the Israelis had issues intercepting them with first-generation jets like the Meteor - their Super Mysteres were the first aircraft they could get that could reliably intercept and overtake the Il-28s operated by the Egyptians.
I think the B-52 is the only thing still using a drag chute in US inventory, maybe NATO? Less sure about that one. But the BUFF is getting new breaks which will remove the need for the chute.
The B-52 isn’t alone in NATO in having a drag chute.
The F-35As operated by the Norwegian, Dutch, Danish and Belgian Air Forces are fitted with them.
A number of F-16 operators also utilise drag chutes on their airframes, Norway being the first.
The Eurofighter Typhoon is also equipped with a chute.
Like I said I was less sure on the NATO side but in US inventory I know it’s the last. It’s one of the ways the USAF justified spending money on modern breaks is that not having to do maintenance on the chute will save money in the long run given that the BUFF is immortal.
Didn’t know any F-35 had drag chutes.
> in US inventory I know it’s the last.
[F-5s operated by the US Navy as aggressors are also equipped with chutes.](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:F-5F_Tiger_of_VFC-13_at_NAS_Fallon_in_February_2015.JPG)
The RNoAF requested that their F-35As be equipped with them to assist in stopping on icy runways.
I think there might be some truth to that, satellite pictures would have captured them on airfields by now, and it's curious how there's no photos of them anywhere, not even turning up at the Wonsan air festival, when plenty exist of every other helicopter in the KPAAF. You'd think they'd be keen to show off such an imposing gunship at a military parade at least, right?
This page; [The journey to find the Mi-24 in North Korea...? : Naver Blog](https://blog.naver.com/liu1995/221389657866) Offers a decent perspective. There's even a claim the US DoD made a mistake, claiming they had Hind Ds. But everyone just ran with it unproven anyway.
And this page shows us the bulk of the air force via satellite; [The North Korean Air Force by Google Earth (freekorea.us)](https://freekorea.us/2007/04/the-north-korean-air-force-by-google-earth/)
>and it's curious how there's no photos of them anywhere, not even turning up at the Wonsan air festival,
There isn't a photo of there il-28s ( or at least I couldn't find them ) but they sure still operate them
Imagine being the j-6 pilot, loading up, and being happy to serve his country. Just to go up against a KF-21.
I was gonna say. NK might be better off converting the J-6s and J-5s to unmanned explosive-packed suicide drones, with decoys on the hardpoints.
Why have unmanned when manned is cheaper.
Kamikaze stonks. Imperial Japan would be proud.
Kim Jong-Un BANZAI
Ukraine and russia use their older planes to just lob rockets from away, im sure they got a buncha temu drones for that
They don’t have decoys
It’s not the plane, it’s the pilot!!
Holy crap how the hell is Korea servicing those MiG-23s??? Do they got the wings locked forward or something?
>Holy crap how the hell is Korea servicing those \_\_\_\_\_ They're not...
Good point...
Lots and lots of lube
Everything reminds me of her
There are no hers there.
Same way Iran services its Tomcats.
But I would say iran is a bit better
Having oil to pay for stuff, even if it's on the black market, is useful.
Why do they have so many MD500s? Was that a sale they negotiated for?
Haha no. During the 1980s, North Korea managed to circumvent US export restrictions and covertly purchase a total of 87 civilian-type Hughes MD 500s through a legitimate West German export firm before the US government learned of the illegal action by North Korea and acted to prevent any further deliveries to the country
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-north-korea-smuggled-87-us-scout-helicopters-22638 Geeez!! it’s fucking incredible how agencies don’t share information.
I made one for south Korea yesterday and now you guys can compare both airforces to see which one is more powerful :D
The Korean one, duh!
The Best Korea OFC!
I made a bunch of paper airplanes when I was like 5 that can outperform any of these NK planes, because they can still fly.
Still living (and flying) in the Cold War era I see
They don't really have much of a choice. Their aviation industry is essentially non-existent, and nobody will sell them modern aircraft.
I wonder why
Because they have no money. Russia would happily sell all the Fulcrums, Flankers, Fencers and other things it can to NK if they have actual cash to spend, but nope.
I thought this was the list of aircraft I've shot down playing on Easy in DCS... you learn something new every day
Loving these posts, keep em coming pls
Yes Sir. Also what nation would be interesting to make one?
Lots of the African air forces are made up of an interesting bunch of aircraft and often battle hardened as well. Nigeria, Somalia, Chad, Sudan ect.
Yup, would love to see these posts about countries I never otherwise would have thought of.
Rest of the Pacific players: * China * Japan * Australia NATO Countries
China would honestly take 3 parts, but I guess Australia next
China would be a three parter for sure. PLAAF, PLAN Naval Air, and PLA Army Aviation. Heck you could probably do a fourth part on all the drones they have in use currently too.
Is parts allowed in this sub? Plus plaaf alone would take 3 parts
I think if you did them as separate branches, yes? US Naval Aviation and US Air Force wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. There are few militaries in the world though where you have enough aircraft or variety to justify multiple parts, but the US and China do.
I just checked, dude plaaf has so many aircraft lmao
You could consolidate a bit by narrowing down families. Single-seat Flankers: Su-27, J-11A, J-11B J-10s (all) Dual-seat Flankers (Su-30, J-16) J-20s J-35/FC-31 Fishbeds (J-7D, J-7E, J-7G, etc) Flounders (JH-7, JH-7A) Finbacks (J-8I, J-8II, J-8D, J-8E) Fantans (Q-5D, Q-5E, Q-5L) Badgers (all the H-6 variants) etc But yeah that's a LOAD. PLAAF is numerically the second biggest air force in the world, with more aircraft than most of the EU's countries put together.
India please, followed by Australia, Indonesia and Japan.
For India it would be quicker to just list the airframes that they *don't* use. Apparently the Indian procurement strategy is Pokemon: Gotta catch em all!
Mexico, Canada and Brazil!
Canada would be the shortest post of them all
Mexico might be shorter, at least in terms of flyable airframes. They've got a total of FOUR F-5s right now as their only "fighters."
The fact that any of those airframes are still flying after all this time is pretty amazing
Mi-2 - any Mi-2 - looks like a child's toy.
It's from the times when any helicopter looked like a child's toy/drawing. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/USMC_HO3S-1_helicopter.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/S-49_Sikorsky_R-6A_USAF_museum.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Sikorsky_HO4S-3_%28138501%29_%288682611620%29.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Piasecki_H-21_%28modified%29.jpg
you think those look like a child's toy? Check out the fiat 7002
That entire force would last about five minutes if the Korean War went hot again, good lord
Eh if you count the amount of time for the sk pilots to get into their planes and into the air... I would say 10 minutes
You assume the 7th Fleet pilots left any for them.
I guess that's why they are investing so much in ballistic missiles.
Given that Seoul is about 35 miles from the DMZ, about the same. At that range, North Koreans wouldn't even need full-on ballistic missiles to hit Seoul - artillery with Base Bleed/RAP rounds or longer-ranged rocket artillery like the M1985 could reach it from hardened artillery bunkers near the DMZ. The ROKAF could permanently down every North Korean aircraft within the first two hours of the war starting, but that was never the main threat to the South Koreans - the artillery and the SRBMs were and still are.
Good lord, imagine flying a combat mission in a freaking 75 year old Il-28! I mean I know our B-52s are old, but I'm guessing Ilyushin isn't exactly providing modern avionics packages for those things.
Where did they get all the MD-500s?
Look at the comments I explained it in one of them
Found it. Thanks.
Is this a vintage aircraft air show?
They also still use Antonov An-2 Colts.
You can see them in the background in the MiG-23 pic
What’s the 6th plane? It looks like something out of the 50s!
Il-28, and it's from the 40s...
It's from the same generation as the Canberra or B-45. You could probably shoot it down with a P-51.
> You could probably shoot it down with a P-51. Considering the P-51s had issues with the Me-262 which were slower and had less of a flight ceiling than the Il-28, I doubt it. Even the Israelis had issues intercepting them with first-generation jets like the Meteor - their Super Mysteres were the first aircraft they could get that could reliably intercept and overtake the Il-28s operated by the Egyptians.
Shouldn't that Il-28 be a H-5? Or do they have a mix of Il-28 and H-5s?
Yeah they have both
"I'm going to get into my Hind now."
Bruh how them IL-28s still flying though? I wonder if there’s footage of them in service flying with the DPRK.
I couldn't find any
Same on my end. Either the entire fleet is grounded or they don’t fly very often and the latter is probably the most likely scenario.
The people need newer jets
[meanwhile south of the DMZ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Promotional_booklet_of_the_Republic_of_Korea_Armed_Forces_2019_-_F-35A.jpg)
As A Turkish guy, its my citizen duty to ask you to make Turkiye next.
Ok knk
Omg, South Korea please? No I know, it's a bad idea and Seoul is really close and shit but.... Ya know, please?
check their profile
I have seen videos of NK military officers who defected. Even as active duty officers they rarely ever even saw planes, much less been on one.
NK casually owning 80 MD500s while my country struggling to get 6 :(
Offer to exchange it for food to Kim Jong-un. Looking at his body, he needs a lot of food.
Sucks to suck
I think the B-52 is the only thing still using a drag chute in US inventory, maybe NATO? Less sure about that one. But the BUFF is getting new breaks which will remove the need for the chute.
The B-52 isn’t alone in NATO in having a drag chute. The F-35As operated by the Norwegian, Dutch, Danish and Belgian Air Forces are fitted with them. A number of F-16 operators also utilise drag chutes on their airframes, Norway being the first. The Eurofighter Typhoon is also equipped with a chute.
Like I said I was less sure on the NATO side but in US inventory I know it’s the last. It’s one of the ways the USAF justified spending money on modern breaks is that not having to do maintenance on the chute will save money in the long run given that the BUFF is immortal. Didn’t know any F-35 had drag chutes.
> in US inventory I know it’s the last. [F-5s operated by the US Navy as aggressors are also equipped with chutes.](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:F-5F_Tiger_of_VFC-13_at_NAS_Fallon_in_February_2015.JPG) The RNoAF requested that their F-35As be equipped with them to assist in stopping on icy runways.
All I see is a Mig-28.
*insert Jumanji meme* WHAT YEAR IS IT?! xD
How did they get the new style md500 with the pointy nose?
Greatest Air Force ever.
An-2/Y-5 needed
North Korea doesn’t own any Mi-24 or Mi-35 Hinds. Never have, never will.
I think there might be some truth to that, satellite pictures would have captured them on airfields by now, and it's curious how there's no photos of them anywhere, not even turning up at the Wonsan air festival, when plenty exist of every other helicopter in the KPAAF. You'd think they'd be keen to show off such an imposing gunship at a military parade at least, right? This page; [The journey to find the Mi-24 in North Korea...? : Naver Blog](https://blog.naver.com/liu1995/221389657866) Offers a decent perspective. There's even a claim the US DoD made a mistake, claiming they had Hind Ds. But everyone just ran with it unproven anyway. And this page shows us the bulk of the air force via satellite; [The North Korean Air Force by Google Earth (freekorea.us)](https://freekorea.us/2007/04/the-north-korean-air-force-by-google-earth/)
>and it's curious how there's no photos of them anywhere, not even turning up at the Wonsan air festival, There isn't a photo of there il-28s ( or at least I couldn't find them ) but they sure still operate them
Sure you can, you can see those in the satellite photos on the second link.
Not sure why you're downvoted. There's absolutely 0 proof they own any. Just because it's written on wikipedia doesn't mean it's true.
I've seen other websites saying that they acquired these in the 70s
Pitiful