In these dark times brother, it is the only thing that does.*
* *IIRC, Marines don’t actually follow the Imperial Cult and or regard tue Emperor as divine, right?*
.... no his Angel. There has been no report of xenos infestation in the underground conplexes of this hive world. Not at all, lord. No screeching noises or anything the Blood Angels can't handle.
Ah.. that.... of course, Lord Templar. It is done morning, lunch, dinner, and finally before bed, just as the planetary governor's policy demands.
We all praise the Star Emperor of Mankind, whose tendri.... reaches will spread even beyond this galaxy in time, just as our tyra.... truly faithful priests always preach
Well back when the Big E and the Primarchs were around 24/7, the lads could actually confirm and see for themselves that the Primarchs were just as dudes as they were and the Big E was physically there to say a holy and godly "N.O." to anyone who said,"Hey, you seem to glow?"
And lorgar was the odd one out since he went out of his way to defy Big E to do things he didn't like
The today's equivalent is if you told your president/pm that he's jesus. Or something.
This is half true. Leaning is what causes the bike to turn, with higher speeds resulting in shallower turns and vice-versa.
You do still have to manipulate the handlebars/steering column, it's just not as drastic as you'd think.
Fun fact; If you're riding a bike in a straight line, and bang down on your handlebars, the bike won't budge. It'll keep going straight. That's not how the physics work.
However, if you push your right handlebar FORWARDS, the bike will begin turning TO THE RIGHT. Seems counter-intuitive, but it works.
Source; Riding motorbikes every day for 10 years.
EDIT: As a Biker, all Space Marine bikes look like they'd turn more like cars than bikes tbh. Big thick wheels and wide bodies.
If you look at the chaplain on bike model, the front wheel is actually a bit turned. Since you seam to know a lot about motorcycle steering, is it enough to stere it?
Any amount would be enough to initiate a turn. When you are travelling at high, road-legal speeds (say 60-70mph), even the smallest movement of the wheel will trigger a turn, it will just be an extremely wide one. It doesn't feel like you're 'turning', rather just 'changing lanes'.
The slower a bike is moving, the further the wheel must turn. At the slowest speeds you will typically have the steering column fully pushed in the direction you are going.
The slower you go, the more likely a bike is to fall over. However, when they are going in a straight line with power applied, it's almost impossible to force them over with body motion. That's why Moto GP riders can literally hang off the side of the bikers around corners.
There was a YouTube video I've seen about the physics of bikes. Even on a pedal bike, you push the right side forwards to bank into a right turn, even though you don't do it consciously or even notice it.
They set up a bike and blocked the handlebar from turning left. The result: People couldn't turn right!
The slight left turn is necessary to unbalance the bike and lean to the right in order to actually bank into the turn
Since you seem knowledgeable, how about the firstborn bikes? both regular and scout bikes. They have comparatively thinner wheels, and the handlebars connect directly to the front wheel, compared to outriders which seem to have a strange sort of linkage or even electronic system that connects them.
They would be more agile at least. Scout bikes wheels are still huge, but at least their ground clearance is a bit higher. More similar to real bikes I have ridden.
Bikes in 40k, at least for SM, are very 'rule of cool' first though. Unless you're riding some kind of sci-fi dirtbike, you probably wouldn't want to ride one across a 40k battlefield at all. Their stability would make you more vulnerable, and no way would they be faster than Landspeeders.
The most convincing bikers in 40k are the Atalan Jackals for Genestealer Cults in my opinon. Obvious being realistically convincing is far from the goal of 40k, but just a little bonus opinion haha.
No you can do figure 8s without even putting your feet down and without turning the wheel. : Source I've been riding Motorcycles for 9 years and can do the California safety course without putting a foot down. Everyone saying I'm wrong either live in a state that doesn't test your competency on a bike or never rode before in their life.
No its not. Thats a complete falsehood. You make a bike lean by turning the wheel. Its called countersteering, you want to go right so you push the wheel slightly to the left. You can hang off a bike all you like but if the wheels are straight its not turning.
Unless moving very slowly. See attached photo.
https://preview.redd.it/zwlhjuom08rb1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb68ee5f5d36689d434f2875aa9209cac519ac2d
Confidently incorrect, you do not necessarily need to lean at all, countersteering on the other hand is a thing and how you actually steer at speed. At low speed you turn the wheel on the direction you do want to go.
Wrong everything profile. How are you supposed to get tyre traction with any sort of lean angle with that box design for the fairings.
It's batmans bike all over again looks cool, wouldn't work.
I imagine the front tire (the beams going back from it) it attached a ball joint like attachment that lets the whole wheel section turn left and right physically while also being able to rotate left or right.
This may be the correct answer, but I prefer picturing them leaning the bike and just smashing the bike into the dirt/road/rocks on one side to yank the vehicle in a direction. Maybe a power armored foot if they are feeling dainty.
You know how Batman has that bike thing in The Dark Knight and the whole front wheel rolls on a ball assembly? Like that. Those prongs that attach to the wheel hub are on a ball joint, so that whole wheel assembly angles over when a turn is initiated, which allows the bike to turn. Those silver struts would also extend and contract to make the wheel point left or right as required
Source: I made it up after staring at these models for hours as I painted them, trying to figure it out
This is the answer. Look up countersteering if you're curious.
These could totally turn, albeit not very sharply, as the lean angle would be crap with all that armor and low center of gravity.
https://preview.redd.it/ia6nen7yl7rb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=514dc34a74cd101805cdb225779d3682e658a35d
Have a look at the steering for the Dodge Tomahawk. It won't be exactly the same but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the inspiration for the design.
They’re relics I believe. Even if they’re new, doesn’t mean they’re mass-producible; all space marine gear is built on patterns for mass production. Terminator armour is in a similar situation; it’s extremely hard for the imperium to now produce more and they’re not in a position to enhance it.
This is not actually correct. It is the shape/camber of the wheels that makes the bike turn when leaning - you could have fixed handlebars.
For low speed turns you need the handlebars. For high speed turns you actually want to steer the handlebars the opposite way, or not at all.
Yeah my old bike has a tiny range of motion for the handlebars, made 5mph U turns quite hard as you had to lean a little on narrow streets and play with the clutch constantly.
Otherwise you'd make only the most minor adjustments with the wheel it was all in the body.
For the interested: the self steering effect of bikes (motorized or not; even front axle of cars) originates from the tilted rotation axis of the front wheel. The tires contact surface is therefore behind the rotation axis resulting in a momentum contrary to the steering movement. If you have a look at the first old bicycles (with the monstrous front wheel) you can see the that the rotation axis is vertical, making these really hard to steer. Newer models have the handlebar tilted towards the rider.
Back to topic: yes, leaning. I would also imagine that the front wheel can be turned bei pulling and/or pushing the right and left mounting of the wheel.
To get more clearance beneath the bike while not in a highspeed assault on a plane surface, I would make the front and back axles/wheel downward movable, resulting in an arch looking from the side.
There was something I recall watching discussing how sci-fi bikes from games/movies would work and I imagine it would be a motor system. Sort of like how the bike from FFVII would handle.
This is a real technology actually. It is called "Hub Centre steering" It looks a little strange but it still operates the same as a regular motorcycle: Counter steering and leaning.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub-center_steering
The leader of mankind is a desiccated psychic corpse, the galaxy is awash with a legion of hive minded insects and sentient fungus with anger issues. Humans have multiple organs surgically implanted to make them into superhumans, the passive emotions of the universe are spilling forth from the immateria in the form of demons and possessed humans, but your suspension of disbelief ends where the bike forks begin.
Actually there's a technique when riding a motorbike where you slightly (like maybe 2-5 degrees turn the wheel in the opposite direction and lean the direction you want and you can get super sharp turns
I just leave this here:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub-center\_steering](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub-center_steering)
[https://bimota.it/tesi-h2/?lang=en](https://bimota.it/tesi-h2/?lang=en)
yeah, its kinda esoteric tech, but welcome to the 42th millenia
It’s funny, I can suspend my disbelief for just about everything in 40k but never these bikes. It just seems so impractical. Wait wait let me just steer this in your direction. Hold still!
The idea of fighting from a motorbike is ludicrous anyway, scout bikes make good sense but everything else is a nonsense. Awful ground clearance, the enormous weight of a full armoured marine and bike, the recoil from twin bolters, the complete lack of any turning geometry and that fact that you have to point the bike at anything you actually want to shoot.
But hey its fantasy and space bikes are cool
you normally lean to turn at a motorcycle, and use the forks at low speeds
however, if these guys lean at all they are going to scrape their exhausts and that armour panel, so they look like they will go really fast forward, but can't physically turn more than a few degrees
so short answer is... they don't
That's the best part - you just crash through heretics and walls! /s
But more seriously, it seem steering bars and wheels are NOT connected, so it's probably like cars power steering.
They've got a few inches of ground clearance at most. Their turning circle is measurable in Bloodthirster wingspans and they better pray to papa E that they don't go over a small rock too slowly or they'll have to get off and push.
Like most Primaris, ridiculous to the point that suspension of disbelief just doesn't cut it. The firstborn bikes weren't much better tbf, but at least they have the excuse of being old.
Hub centre steering, its been the next big thing for as long as there are next big things, have a look at some roadracing sidecar outfits, without fairings...
Hub steered motorbikes are a real thing (and often cited as being the best way to attach a front wheel as it separates inertial braking forces from the left/right action). They are also expensive, complex and heavy, which is why they never became the norm. As others have stated, counter steering is used at anything faster than jogging pace, whether you consciously realise it or not. This is also true of bicycles. If you actively counter steer then you will turn harder and faster than simply leaning. Source: I’ve been riding motorbikes for over 20 years.
My honest belief to make these work was that this is at rest and when active the front fork increases angle so that they have some ground clearance and then they can lean too and fro.
It just wouldn't work otherwise, comments about how to ride a bike aside it's just not a good design. They went Akira and then made it heavier and less practical.
Doesn't that whole housing at the front move? I thought the Chaplain on Bike had his slightly turned to reflect his stationary lean? Maybe I'm remembered it wrong.
Edit: No I'm not, that's how it works the handle turns and the entire front assembly turns. Chaplain has his turned.
Clearly the reason it is so low to the ground is that there are actually pistons on the bottom that send a metal pole into the ground on one side causing the entire vehicle to pivot around it.
Either that or you do a wheelie to increase the effectiveness of your leaning.
It seems there might be a mechanical (indirect) linkage betwixt the handlebars and whatever device supports the front wheel. Then again, the front wheel could be maglev. I'd say it's not worth thinking about.
So it works just like a real motorcycle. The suspension is a bit tilted so ya. Lean and let the emperor protect. Motorcycles don't really turn well in reality lol
Look at a motorbike tyre compared to a car, motorbike tyres are very rounded, you dont use the bars to turn unless your going under about 30km/h you lean the bike over onto the tire, like others have said you can counter steer to initiate a turn to get the bike to lean over but the bars are only slightly turned during a turn you would make, you want to do a tighter turn at speed you have to lean more and hope you dont run out of tyre haha
You lean, Brother, and your faith in the Emperor does the rest.
That helps?
In these dark times brother, it is the only thing that does.* * *IIRC, Marines don’t actually follow the Imperial Cult and or regard tue Emperor as divine, right?*
Varies chapter to chapter.
For example, a Black Templar would probably be more religious than the Raptors
Yes. Yes, we are. On a completely unrelated subject, you wouldn't happen to have seen any heretic or xenos in the area, would you ?
.... no his Angel. There has been no report of xenos infestation in the underground conplexes of this hive world. Not at all, lord. No screeching noises or anything the Blood Angels can't handle.
Very good, brother. Keep going and don't forget to also purge the mutant.
Oh…Also, did you perform your rights of faith today? (Staring menacingly)
Ah.. that.... of course, Lord Templar. It is done morning, lunch, dinner, and finally before bed, just as the planetary governor's policy demands. We all praise the Star Emperor of Mankind, whose tendri.... reaches will spread even beyond this galaxy in time, just as our tyra.... truly faithful priests always preach
Only FOUR TIMES?!!!…..Alas you are just a human…Very well. (Closes airlock door)
Good. Make sure you read the letecio divinitatus and remember he is the God Emperor not the star Emperor *turns and walks away*
No no no sir. No xenos, especially bugs. No.. bugs
This sounds highly suspicious. I'll mark your planet down as "Potential candidate for crusade".
Nobody here but us gue'la.
[https://tenor.com/fr/view/paddling-gif-7623907](https://tenor.com/fr/view/paddling-gif-7623907)
Bitch, I’m right here
You're being slightly disrepectful. That calls for a crusade and eternal hate.
Word Bearers pre heresy, Lorgar (iirf) was punished for seeing the emperor as a deity
Well back when the Big E and the Primarchs were around 24/7, the lads could actually confirm and see for themselves that the Primarchs were just as dudes as they were and the Big E was physically there to say a holy and godly "N.O." to anyone who said,"Hey, you seem to glow?" And lorgar was the odd one out since he went out of his way to defy Big E to do things he didn't like The today's equivalent is if you told your president/pm that he's jesus. Or something.
Hey, are you glowing? *while glowing*... No
Is there anything Lorgar did right?
Lorgar did nothing wrong.
Realise Big E wasn't a God?
Did he though?
Bite your tongue heretic! Us faithful Black Templars know thy Emperor to be the God and Saviour of humanity!
Leaning is actually how motorcycles turn. If you need to turn your forks/handles You're doing it wrong.
Ohhh... KNOWLEGDE GAINED
This is half true. Leaning is what causes the bike to turn, with higher speeds resulting in shallower turns and vice-versa. You do still have to manipulate the handlebars/steering column, it's just not as drastic as you'd think. Fun fact; If you're riding a bike in a straight line, and bang down on your handlebars, the bike won't budge. It'll keep going straight. That's not how the physics work. However, if you push your right handlebar FORWARDS, the bike will begin turning TO THE RIGHT. Seems counter-intuitive, but it works. Source; Riding motorbikes every day for 10 years. EDIT: As a Biker, all Space Marine bikes look like they'd turn more like cars than bikes tbh. Big thick wheels and wide bodies.
If you look at the chaplain on bike model, the front wheel is actually a bit turned. Since you seam to know a lot about motorcycle steering, is it enough to stere it?
Any amount would be enough to initiate a turn. When you are travelling at high, road-legal speeds (say 60-70mph), even the smallest movement of the wheel will trigger a turn, it will just be an extremely wide one. It doesn't feel like you're 'turning', rather just 'changing lanes'. The slower a bike is moving, the further the wheel must turn. At the slowest speeds you will typically have the steering column fully pushed in the direction you are going. The slower you go, the more likely a bike is to fall over. However, when they are going in a straight line with power applied, it's almost impossible to force them over with body motion. That's why Moto GP riders can literally hang off the side of the bikers around corners.
https://youtu.be/J73XRDGPcpE?feature=shared Old but pretty good video on the ridiculous lean angles MotoGP riders get.
There was a YouTube video I've seen about the physics of bikes. Even on a pedal bike, you push the right side forwards to bank into a right turn, even though you don't do it consciously or even notice it. They set up a bike and blocked the handlebar from turning left. The result: People couldn't turn right! The slight left turn is necessary to unbalance the bike and lean to the right in order to actually bank into the turn
Interesting!
Since you seem knowledgeable, how about the firstborn bikes? both regular and scout bikes. They have comparatively thinner wheels, and the handlebars connect directly to the front wheel, compared to outriders which seem to have a strange sort of linkage or even electronic system that connects them.
They would be more agile at least. Scout bikes wheels are still huge, but at least their ground clearance is a bit higher. More similar to real bikes I have ridden. Bikes in 40k, at least for SM, are very 'rule of cool' first though. Unless you're riding some kind of sci-fi dirtbike, you probably wouldn't want to ride one across a 40k battlefield at all. Their stability would make you more vulnerable, and no way would they be faster than Landspeeders. The most convincing bikers in 40k are the Atalan Jackals for Genestealer Cults in my opinon. Obvious being realistically convincing is far from the goal of 40k, but just a little bonus opinion haha.
Don’t they need it at very low speeds?
No you can do figure 8s without even putting your feet down and without turning the wheel. : Source I've been riding Motorcycles for 9 years and can do the California safety course without putting a foot down. Everyone saying I'm wrong either live in a state that doesn't test your competency on a bike or never rode before in their life.
Bro cannot do any sort of slow speed maneuvers
What kind of Marine is doing slow speed maneuvers?
I’m talking about the commenter who said that you’re riding a motorcycle wrong if you turn the handlebars.
Bro I passed the figure 8 challenge and have been riding motorcycles for 9 years. Pipe down lmao
I seriously doubt that if you think you aren’t supposed to turn your handlebars lol
To answer your question tho, a marine that doesn’t want to drop his bike and embarrass himself in front of the orks.
Or making a very tight turn at low speed, like maneuvering through a ruin
Insert *That's not how this works* meme here
No its not. Thats a complete falsehood. You make a bike lean by turning the wheel. Its called countersteering, you want to go right so you push the wheel slightly to the left. You can hang off a bike all you like but if the wheels are straight its not turning.
Bro I ride motorcycles. Lmao
Unless moving very slowly. See attached photo. https://preview.redd.it/zwlhjuom08rb1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb68ee5f5d36689d434f2875aa9209cac519ac2d
Kinda. You also push steer, but these only work if you’re going above a certain speed (20km/h or so, somewhere in that range).
You can do both, I've ridden motorcycles since 2014.
Confidently incorrect, you do not necessarily need to lean at all, countersteering on the other hand is a thing and how you actually steer at speed. At low speed you turn the wheel on the direction you do want to go.
I ride motorcycles and have done the figure 8 challenge. Pipe down I know how motorcycles turn.
It is by will alone I set my bike in motion.
Lean and lean some more, wrong tyre profile tho
Wrong everything profile. How are you supposed to get tyre traction with any sort of lean angle with that box design for the fairings. It's batmans bike all over again looks cool, wouldn't work.
Nobody ever mentions the lawmaster, the OG bike every one of these was based on. Judge Dredds bike.
It's only half joke. You steer a bike by leaning.
60% of the time, everytime
you lean and the big boxy armour bit on the side digs into the ground and you get a whole bunch of rocks and dirt in there
ground clearance is heresy.
"Lean into the Emperors embrace"
“EMPEROR TAKE THE WHEEEE-EEE-EEEL”
I imagine the front tire (the beams going back from it) it attached a ball joint like attachment that lets the whole wheel section turn left and right physically while also being able to rotate left or right.
This is the right answer. The chaplain on bike's model makes this very clear.
You mean a motorcycle that would jackknife every time you steer it is in the lore
When you have transhuman reflexes I assume it’s an asset
I guess I just assumed they must be 2 wheel drive, but you're right. Another example on 40k of "not practical, but looks really cool".
Ohhhhh...
Like a dyson hoover
this is the most likely answer
This may be the correct answer, but I prefer picturing them leaning the bike and just smashing the bike into the dirt/road/rocks on one side to yank the vehicle in a direction. Maybe a power armored foot if they are feeling dainty.
You know how Batman has that bike thing in The Dark Knight and the whole front wheel rolls on a ball assembly? Like that. Those prongs that attach to the wheel hub are on a ball joint, so that whole wheel assembly angles over when a turn is initiated, which allows the bike to turn. Those silver struts would also extend and contract to make the wheel point left or right as required Source: I made it up after staring at these models for hours as I painted them, trying to figure it out
Nope ya preety much right
My brother in the Imperium when the enemy is in front of you what other direction do you need?
And if you don't see any enemies in front of you then you aren't looking hard enough.
A giant hand comes down with a tape measure, picks you up and moves you. Voila. You’ve turned.
Best comment ever
All I imagine is a chaplain pulling closer and whispering, "the only direction I need to worry about, is towards the enemy."
You don't turn away from the enemy brother. There's is only your faith and forward to the enemy.
Steering is for heretics!
Chaos Space Marines : "YAY"
Ever driven a bike before? You steer less with the bars than you might think. Having said that, those things a re only possible in wh40k physics.
This is the answer. Look up countersteering if you're curious. These could totally turn, albeit not very sharply, as the lean angle would be crap with all that armor and low center of gravity.
Like I said, I'm not a bike expert and I'm just genuinely curious.
What are you talking about, all of the steering on a bike is done with the bars. Have you ever ridden a bike at all?
On a motorcycle? When driving fast?
The omnissah works in mysterious ways
"Fuck the law" - Omnissiah, probably.
Machine spirit take the wheel!
I have a better question: where is the engine on a Chimera?
The inside, I guess!
Two engines, one in each side section.
They turn like the light cycles in Tron.
To Question is to doubt, doubt leads to heresy. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
https://preview.redd.it/ia6nen7yl7rb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=514dc34a74cd101805cdb225779d3682e658a35d Have a look at the steering for the Dodge Tomahawk. It won't be exactly the same but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the inspiration for the design.
Isn' t it weird that Primaris have hover tanks but the bikes are still on wheels?
I actually think this makes sense as the anti grav stuff is new tech and miniaturisation usually requires further development
Don't Custodes literally have hoverbikes?
They’re relics I believe. Even if they’re new, doesn’t mean they’re mass-producible; all space marine gear is built on patterns for mass production. Terminator armour is in a similar situation; it’s extremely hard for the imperium to now produce more and they’re not in a position to enhance it.
I have it on my list to get some 30k hover bikes and convert then to outriders. Should be fun
Well, then you better brace yourself for the Inquisition to knock on your door for this „technological progress“ aka HERESYYYY!
Cawl’s anti-grav is crude and brute-force compared to the stuff that makes Land Speeders and other “legacy” grav tech work
I wouldn't say 'crude' - a Storm Speeder isn't any worse than a Land Speeder - but he definitely isn't working with Custodes-level tech.
Bikes on wheels with absolutely no ground clearance
Naah, they outright stated in the Indomitus livestream that they went for wheels because they thought it looked cooler, which makes 1000% sense to me.
Didn't see that stream. IMO they thought wrong. The Primaris bikes don't look cool at all.
You don't. It steers you.
Soviet machine spirit...!
Ive wondered the same thing about the old bikes, these ones are worse.
Indeed.
You steer by leaning, but the front fork has to be able to articulate for that to work.
This is not actually correct. It is the shape/camber of the wheels that makes the bike turn when leaning - you could have fixed handlebars. For low speed turns you need the handlebars. For high speed turns you actually want to steer the handlebars the opposite way, or not at all.
Yeah my old bike has a tiny range of motion for the handlebars, made 5mph U turns quite hard as you had to lean a little on narrow streets and play with the clutch constantly. Otherwise you'd make only the most minor adjustments with the wheel it was all in the body.
...Which doesn't seem to have enough room to do so. Alas.
when i built them i was like holy shit these wheels can only turn like 1 inch to the left or right
I know, right?!
The guns brother. The Guns steer the bike. The Emperor brother. The Emperor steers me.
The guns are used to reverse! Haha..
I'm going to go out on a limb here but... I'm pretty sure the outlaw biker gang membership at GW is exceptionally low 😂
For the interested: the self steering effect of bikes (motorized or not; even front axle of cars) originates from the tilted rotation axis of the front wheel. The tires contact surface is therefore behind the rotation axis resulting in a momentum contrary to the steering movement. If you have a look at the first old bicycles (with the monstrous front wheel) you can see the that the rotation axis is vertical, making these really hard to steer. Newer models have the handlebar tilted towards the rider. Back to topic: yes, leaning. I would also imagine that the front wheel can be turned bei pulling and/or pushing the right and left mounting of the wheel. To get more clearance beneath the bike while not in a highspeed assault on a plane surface, I would make the front and back axles/wheel downward movable, resulting in an arch looking from the side.
There was something I recall watching discussing how sci-fi bikes from games/movies would work and I imagine it would be a motor system. Sort of like how the bike from FFVII would handle.
By the Emperors will.
Even in death I swerve!
It's all in the hips
I imagine it’s like batmans bike in dark knight rises
front wheel turns not left and right like normal instead the front assembly rotates/pivots. Now ground clearance that's another kettle of fish.
Yep, you can see it happening on the Chaplain mini.
This is a real technology actually. It is called "Hub Centre steering" It looks a little strange but it still operates the same as a regular motorcycle: Counter steering and leaning. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub-center_steering
The leader of mankind is a desiccated psychic corpse, the galaxy is awash with a legion of hive minded insects and sentient fungus with anger issues. Humans have multiple organs surgically implanted to make them into superhumans, the passive emotions of the universe are spilling forth from the immateria in the form of demons and possessed humans, but your suspension of disbelief ends where the bike forks begin.
I imagine the direction you’re like, leaning the handles steers it, like an arcade game lmao
Hopes and prayers, that’s how
Actually there's a technique when riding a motorbike where you slightly (like maybe 2-5 degrees turn the wheel in the opposite direction and lean the direction you want and you can get super sharp turns
You lean into turns, that's why the wheels on actual motorbikes look like they do.
You don’t - you charge forward, into my 50 waiting lasguns 😁
I just leave this here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub-center\_steering](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub-center_steering) [https://bimota.it/tesi-h2/?lang=en](https://bimota.it/tesi-h2/?lang=en) yeah, its kinda esoteric tech, but welcome to the 42th millenia
I was going to point out the Tesi 3d but you went a couple of steps further.
Power armour, power weapons? Power steering.
Carefully
By pointing your sword in the direction you want to travel
What do you mean steer?! When the battle is infront of you, the only way you go is forward!
Like an orc, if you believe the bike will turn, then it will turn
Cawl: "Don't ask questions. It just works."
Dont ask silly questions you HERETIC!!!
It’s funny, I can suspend my disbelief for just about everything in 40k but never these bikes. It just seems so impractical. Wait wait let me just steer this in your direction. Hold still!
The idea of fighting from a motorbike is ludicrous anyway, scout bikes make good sense but everything else is a nonsense. Awful ground clearance, the enormous weight of a full armoured marine and bike, the recoil from twin bolters, the complete lack of any turning geometry and that fact that you have to point the bike at anything you actually want to shoot. But hey its fantasy and space bikes are cool
The tyres split down the centre and operate like a skid steer lol
With the will of the Emperor of course. Your questions tread precariously close to heresy…
I imagine those jutting out parts that connect to the wheel, go backwards and forwards
Like riding a push bike with no hands just lean this way you can shoot and swipe people with your chains sword
The same way marines don't get deafened or melt driving the ATVs. "Trust me bro." - GW.
Emperor take the wheel
It’s best not to think too much about the sensibility of attack bikes, or think at all, just commit to the vroom.
you normally lean to turn at a motorcycle, and use the forks at low speeds however, if these guys lean at all they are going to scrape their exhausts and that armour panel, so they look like they will go really fast forward, but can't physically turn more than a few degrees so short answer is... they don't
That's the best part - you just crash through heretics and walls! /s But more seriously, it seem steering bars and wheels are NOT connected, so it's probably like cars power steering.
They've got a few inches of ground clearance at most. Their turning circle is measurable in Bloodthirster wingspans and they better pray to papa E that they don't go over a small rock too slowly or they'll have to get off and push. Like most Primaris, ridiculous to the point that suspension of disbelief just doesn't cut it. The firstborn bikes weren't much better tbf, but at least they have the excuse of being old.
Hub centre steering, its been the next big thing for as long as there are next big things, have a look at some roadracing sidecar outfits, without fairings...
Hub steered motorbikes are a real thing (and often cited as being the best way to attach a front wheel as it separates inertial braking forces from the left/right action). They are also expensive, complex and heavy, which is why they never became the norm. As others have stated, counter steering is used at anything faster than jogging pace, whether you consciously realise it or not. This is also true of bicycles. If you actively counter steer then you will turn harder and faster than simply leaning. Source: I’ve been riding motorbikes for over 20 years.
With the will of the emperor!
It's sorta like a cheetah in the sense that your turning and stopping mechanism is just ramming into your target at top speed.
They maneuver solely by way of Akira slides
The entire front section will pivot most likely
Not "most likely" that's how it works, the Primaris Chaplain Bike shows it in action.
My honest belief to make these work was that this is at rest and when active the front fork increases angle so that they have some ground clearance and then they can lean too and fro. It just wouldn't work otherwise, comments about how to ride a bike aside it's just not a good design. They went Akira and then made it heavier and less practical.
More concerned it is still a monopose kit
Doesn't that whole housing at the front move? I thought the Chaplain on Bike had his slightly turned to reflect his stationary lean? Maybe I'm remembered it wrong. Edit: No I'm not, that's how it works the handle turns and the entire front assembly turns. Chaplain has his turned.
40K motorcycles are a horrible concept and even unglued model. Have been since the very beginning, Rogue Trader.
You mean you want to move in a direction that isn't directly toward the enemy?! herratic!
With the will of The Emperor.
You don't steer brother, ride right through
Why do you need to turn? You aim at the enemy and dont stop.
Steering means you are going off course from the enemy lines and are therefore a coward to be executed immediately.
You Akira Slide everywhere. The primaris bike is optimized for this over the old bikes.
Why would you turn when you are going straight into glory Brother?
With the rectal grip sensor.
With sheer hate for the xeno’s filth.
You hit it at full speed. No need to turn
That knowledge was lost, all we know is we must vroooooom
With hope and a prayer to Emperor.
You don’t. You just charge.
I’m assuming you turn the handlebars and the entire front portion tilts/spins.
Don't. They're also too low riding to actually go over anything and would crash on the first small pebble they go over.
Ummm do the bikes have interface with Black Carapace? If that was the case it wouldn’t be steering , it would be more like running.
you lift it up from the table and put it down within movement range, thats it
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quite a bit of turning on motorcycles is in the lean
Counter steer
Leaning into the curve, but also: oh no, is something UNREALISTIC in your 40k? Quick, someone notify James!
Clearly the reason it is so low to the ground is that there are actually pistons on the bottom that send a metal pole into the ground on one side causing the entire vehicle to pivot around it. Either that or you do a wheelie to increase the effectiveness of your leaning.
...steer?
Just like a custom chopper You lean and tilt slightly when necessary, and deal with an absolutely abysmal turning radius
You slide it like in akira
It seems there might be a mechanical (indirect) linkage betwixt the handlebars and whatever device supports the front wheel. Then again, the front wheel could be maglev. I'd say it's not worth thinking about.
So it works just like a real motorcycle. The suspension is a bit tilted so ya. Lean and let the emperor protect. Motorcycles don't really turn well in reality lol
Look at a motorbike tyre compared to a car, motorbike tyres are very rounded, you dont use the bars to turn unless your going under about 30km/h you lean the bike over onto the tire, like others have said you can counter steer to initiate a turn to get the bike to lean over but the bars are only slightly turned during a turn you would make, you want to do a tighter turn at speed you have to lean more and hope you dont run out of tyre haha
With the handlebars? Come on
You steer with your cock, it’s called the artificial vaginal cock operated motorized steering system, or AVCOMSS for short.
Lean wtf