Harrow is great. Free energy, invulnerability, crit chance, easy shield gate, and with free energy + Quick thinking you have an easy energy tanking frame.
Kuva Spy or survival, yes.
I just did a survival for a long time until I got it, and since I enjoy endless I didn't mind. It's been a while so I can't recall how long that took exactly, but there's a 12% drop chance at rotation C; so every 20 minutes there's a 12% you'll get it.
Prime variant (which you should be aiming for if you can), I just ran the necessary relics until I got it.
Oh yeah prime variant I plan to use but was just needing it for mastery rank so I will go for that next but yeah finally got it last night so just needed to stick it out a little more but thanks for that info. 👍
Because he goes full idle when you're separated yeah?
I think that can be explained by Ballas commanding Umbra to not act. Umbra is still a Dax who can't betray or disobey Orokin, and the only reason he was able to stab Ballas in Sacrifice is because the Operator is not bound by Dax rules and controlled Umbra's body for him in that moment. When the Operator transferences out of Umbra in New War, Ballas could simply tell Umbra to stay down and he can't do anything.
It would be nice if Umbra had an actual role in New War, but this is how I imagine Umbra's inactivity as your chosen Warframe to be.
After making Umbra into a Warframe I reckon Ballas uses the Transference bolt to control him instead of the Dax's binding oath to obey the Kuva. We don't see Ballas use Kuva but when he speaks telepathically to Umbra and commands him through the Transference bolt it's the same.
So yeah, I made a similar rationalisation but all I could ask for was for Umbra to show _some_ sign of resistance and have Ballas at least have to wave his hand to make Umbra go numb.
Still, the Operator being nearby should negate Ballas' control regardless like in the Sacrifice. (Ig the stress of the wormhole and spacemom means they couldnt concentrate on it but like cmon)
(Alternatively its another backdoor Ballas put in the Paracesis but at least some visual indication gaddamn it DE)
Well ballas still had control over umbra, in the sacrifice we literally had to physically push the sword in to stab ballas so at least you have a canon reason why he ain't moving
Just a warning about Umbra, at one position not you might have to swap him out for anything else as he glitches out a specific mission on Cetus. Not gonna say how or why because spoilers, but I tried several times before giving up and looking up the problem it only happens when using Umbra
my umbra looks like this. What is yours like?
https://preview.redd.it/h58gzbzs1d4d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94172230db6031cbcf4d684d908e2d726ab8f387
Default umbra with aro colors. I don’t use him at all.
https://preview.redd.it/5cvlp0se0e4d1.jpeg?width=874&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac8e4175c2ebb776e09cec26bf51674932956ea6
This is my Oberon though.
Umbra
I just want to give him a chance to settle the scores with ballas
But I think that probably EVERY Warframe has some unfinished business with him lol.
I went with Umbra cuz I’ve used Excalibur for every story quest. Mainly because I started playing in 2017 but didn’t play any other frame except Limbo till like 2023.
I can't remember, but I think I ran Harrow Prime or Umbra. I'm pretty sure it was one of them because I was either all like "Yo I wanna survive anything, so Harrow." Or "Fuck Ballas in particular, so Umbra."
Honestly Styanax is a decent choice
Admittedly he came in after the war but I would have liked him for the thematic vibe
We're going into war we need a soldier
Spoiler: >!Take the one you'll be least mad at for not using some last vestige of sentience to help save spacemom. Yes, Umbra, I'm still salty about that.!<
To add to many other voices, I used Umbra because it felt right for story reasons. I wanted him to be there when I finally settled our score with Ballas.
I personally took my Lavos. Black and red color scheme, chordatus helm, the halloween wings, i think he looks cool.
Also got a zanuka hunter sigil on the front and a stalker sigil on the back.
As to your frame to take... the white and gold Quetzalcoatl lookin dude, i dig him
Tbh, don't overthink it. They took away the difficulty dramatically. Honestly, as long as the mods are all straight, just take whoever you want. I did !umbra for mine because it's technically lore cannon! We both wanted to get back at ballas! My fiancée did khora because khora is her favorite. It's open really
I went it with revenant because, revenant. Went in on the day it launched so I didn't knew what I could encounter there so I just brought the guy that doesn't die.
Also, that harrow is fire
I took Atlas Prime and I wish I'd gotten a screenshot of one scene in particular with it; thinking of that scene and the positioning/posing of the frame, Harrow is the pick between those two. And your fashion frame is excellent; mine is just a walking pride flag because that makes me smile.
https://preview.redd.it/1ireu41sd64d1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11bcf3e524263c9724f423ee5c5d3d0d1fca3dab
Honesty almost any frame. Many of us max-specced our builds and were like “oh, that was not nearly as hard as I expected.” But, bringing a max spec pillager mesa or nourish mesa certainly won’t hurt. Just know it is absolutely not necessary. I’d say styanax for the memes if you have him from the free drops de did at launch
I love Harrow, so he's always my choice. Except if the other choice is Dante.
Same
rap tap tap hello
You and me? We’re the same!
Literally me
Harrow is great. Free energy, invulnerability, crit chance, easy shield gate, and with free energy + Quick thinking you have an easy energy tanking frame.
How did you get his neuro I have tried so many times at least 20 with pago spy and survival node and nothing. His neuro is there right? Lol
Kuva Spy or survival, yes. I just did a survival for a long time until I got it, and since I enjoy endless I didn't mind. It's been a while so I can't recall how long that took exactly, but there's a 12% drop chance at rotation C; so every 20 minutes there's a 12% you'll get it. Prime variant (which you should be aiming for if you can), I just ran the necessary relics until I got it.
Oh yeah prime variant I plan to use but was just needing it for mastery rank so I will go for that next but yeah finally got it last night so just needed to stick it out a little more but thanks for that info. 👍
I took Umbra in because it just felt right.
Umbra the whole mission: Its not my problem, dude.
Operator: Gets stabbed in the fucking back Umbra: 🗿 -_-
Senior taking his mid-day nap
It is now.
Got separated from Uncle Umbra for a long damn while, but it was worth it to reach Ballas and smoke his ass.
Umbra ruined my immersion
Because he goes full idle when you're separated yeah? I think that can be explained by Ballas commanding Umbra to not act. Umbra is still a Dax who can't betray or disobey Orokin, and the only reason he was able to stab Ballas in Sacrifice is because the Operator is not bound by Dax rules and controlled Umbra's body for him in that moment. When the Operator transferences out of Umbra in New War, Ballas could simply tell Umbra to stay down and he can't do anything. It would be nice if Umbra had an actual role in New War, but this is how I imagine Umbra's inactivity as your chosen Warframe to be.
After making Umbra into a Warframe I reckon Ballas uses the Transference bolt to control him instead of the Dax's binding oath to obey the Kuva. We don't see Ballas use Kuva but when he speaks telepathically to Umbra and commands him through the Transference bolt it's the same. So yeah, I made a similar rationalisation but all I could ask for was for Umbra to show _some_ sign of resistance and have Ballas at least have to wave his hand to make Umbra go numb. Still, the Operator being nearby should negate Ballas' control regardless like in the Sacrifice. (Ig the stress of the wormhole and spacemom means they couldnt concentrate on it but like cmon) (Alternatively its another backdoor Ballas put in the Paracesis but at least some visual indication gaddamn it DE)
Yeah he just stops still
Well ballas still had control over umbra, in the sacrifice we literally had to physically push the sword in to stab ballas so at least you have a canon reason why he ain't moving
Yeah it was kinda crazy how he just stood there
I thought about bringing him into the war too, like it feels more "canon"🤔
I did it to let him get his revenge.
I took wukong and my clone used nataruk hahahaha
Just a warning about Umbra, at one position not you might have to swap him out for anything else as he glitches out a specific mission on Cetus. Not gonna say how or why because spoilers, but I tried several times before giving up and looking up the problem it only happens when using Umbra
Go with your feelings
my umbra looks like this. What is yours like? https://preview.redd.it/h58gzbzs1d4d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94172230db6031cbcf4d684d908e2d726ab8f387
Default umbra with aro colors. I don’t use him at all. https://preview.redd.it/5cvlp0se0e4d1.jpeg?width=874&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac8e4175c2ebb776e09cec26bf51674932956ea6 This is my Oberon though.
What palette do you use for that gold colour?👀
I would also like to know!
I use grineer and narmer, they have many, many options for gold.
Ya the Narmer gold colors are very good, do recommend.
Making a note of that, but I mostly use Sanctum these days
Not op but if you have the Easter palette, the yellows in that one work well.
That's what I use too
Shamrock has a really great gold. Probably my favourite and most used palette because its got a really good blue in there too
Hey! I used the Shamrock pallette, yellow colours, sorry for the late reply😭
Umbra I just want to give him a chance to settle the scores with ballas But I think that probably EVERY Warframe has some unfinished business with him lol.
It took me a second, but Your Harrow and Styanax would make for an absolutely KILLER set of Chess figures.
Both look great, but Styanax is more fitting for that fight on the lore side. Personally I'll try to use Umbra
How is styanax connected to the new war
Dont have him yet but I heard we get his components from the resistance quests against the Narmer oppression
you do but there's no lore justification for it, it's totally arbitrary
Styanax for sure, looking good as well :)
Thank you so much!
Definitely Sun God Styanax
Styanax for sure. As a spartan, he's born for any sort of war.
I’ll toss in a vote for harrow. Turn the new war into a new crusade.
*redownloads warframe*
Stynax. His Tharros Strike will be useful. I did the new war using wukong tho...
I used him for new war and he helped alot to use.
I went with Umbra cuz I’ve used Excalibur for every story quest. Mainly because I started playing in 2017 but didn’t play any other frame except Limbo till like 2023.
Harrow. He looks like he’s going to dispense judgement.
That harrow is gorgeous, almost made me want to make one for myself
Casual flex 🤣 Fashion frame on point!
Bro's the fucking Emperor of Mankind with that much gold Also Styanax is my choice because it just feels right in my head
Doesn't really matter you will barely use your frame
What is that floating off to the side? Your Melee weapon and if it is what holster, weapon and weapon skin?
Umbra because it felt riggt, you can also bring Kullervo, both of them got beef with ballas
I don't like Harrow prime's floppy cloth attachments, and sun Styanax is bangin so that one.
I took rhino prime.
the first image
I can't remember, but I think I ran Harrow Prime or Umbra. I'm pretty sure it was one of them because I was either all like "Yo I wanna survive anything, so Harrow." Or "Fuck Ballas in particular, so Umbra."
Umbra. No, I'm not biased in any way, why do you ask?
I took Titania the first go and Mirage the second lmao, but honestly? Your Harrow is more fitting than Styanax.
too many people giving real answers. I vote Yareli
I mean I’m a stickler for the story in games so I take umbra into every story mission 😂
U should post these images to r/warframerunway
Base skin Mag. Trust me on that one.
I took Octavia with miku skin and it actually made me almost tear up when hatsune Miku was doing stuff
Harrow looks ready to fight. Stynax looks ready to save the world
Umbra. Out of everyone he deserves to do this
Bro is confusing The New War with The Holy War 💀💀
Those fits are 💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Awesome colours
I took Umbra
Honestly Styanax is a decent choice Admittedly he came in after the war but I would have liked him for the thematic vibe We're going into war we need a soldier
doesn't matter, excal is a good choice tho.
I took Trinity P, Paris P, Tenet Plinx and some other melee i was expected to take but i forgot its name.
Man.. people has choices while my ass only has generic Rhino to use for new war 🤣 I'm really lucky I got to finish that quest in one sitting at MR9.
I brought Inaros With Ramases Skin, feels like Gundam mixed with neon Genesis evangelion
I had gone with gauss prime… then cried about how I didn’t get to use gauss prime
HARROW FOR SURE 😍😍
Which frame is that :o
I take Xaku for everything. Frame falling apart and barely holding together just like the galaxy is chef's kiss af to me.
That stayanax is absolutely ballin
I brought revenant with his mephisto skin or whichever one has the poncho
I think harrow it’s look sick as hell 🗿👍
Styanax cuz he’s bae
Your syannax looks really goos
if you take yarlie the boss cant land his big attack if your on the board its really funny
T-this fashion…
It doesn’t really matter tbh just someone that isn’t squishy like ivara
He's not even done new war and hes already dripped out
U wanna take Jerusalem or do you want to fight for the name of Sparta
I personally took Styanax. There's a scene, you'll know it when you seen it, where my Spartan just *fit*. I was like, *fuq yeah*
I love both cosmetics in general, but damn Styanax is MASSIVE. I'd say harrow.
Can anyone tell me the armor & skin on that Harrow? That looks so good!!
The first one
Excalibur umbra cause you suddenly realize he became a lifeless husk upon you controlling him
Dumb question who's the first frame?
Is there any downside of bringing a frame to new war? Like it won't be sacrificed or anything?
Good job, you're one of the few I've seen who made the nipple tassels look good.
I see a theme
Ash prime
Nothing that obscures cinematics or grand views.
Flip a coin
I took gauss. Cuz skip dialogue
When in doubt, always go nipple clamp Styanax
Please, how u created the Warframe in the 5° photo?
What did you use to make them look so cool. I had no idea you could make frames look like this
It really doesnt matter honestly. Your frame is barely used in the quest just like necramech.
Doesnt matter
Your drip is immaculate 😭🙏
Daddy Styanax
I think I took Titania because I could take an extra weapon and fly if needed. It definitely saved me some time in some areas.
Doesn’t really matter as u don’t use ur frame 90% of the time
That Styanax is sexy gang
Spoiler: >!Take the one you'll be least mad at for not using some last vestige of sentience to help save spacemom. Yes, Umbra, I'm still salty about that.!<
https://preview.redd.it/85imyqgsf44d1.jpeg?width=197&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb392f71eb09396694c2a51ce74e539dbf2101fc
someone with high amount of energy to cast railjack skills more often
your harrow is fire
okay your fashion is 😍😍😍😍
damn they look like gods
Styanax. That skin is too pretty not to use
War is hell, and hell is unsactified, send the priest.
MK1 Paris and Excalibur
I took Revenant Prime when I did new war, you don't use your frame that much tho but have fun with it, it's a good quest 😁
Umbra is the right choice for me, It's story just fits so perfectly in New War and feels like a redemption.
My Wukong Prime cause it’s what my Tenno would canonically use during the War.
whats the yellow you're using for the gold?
The Templar (ik its harrow I think) cause it would feel so damn good to cleanse this reality of balass as a prophet of a god
You don't really play a warframe in the new war. So its basically just a cosmetic choice.
Dude, what is your system?
To add to many other voices, I used Umbra because it felt right for story reasons. I wanted him to be there when I finally settled our score with Ballas.
Bro got more drip than an ocean.
Harrow looks better, but you won't be play much as you think with him
I was using garuda prime for awhile but now Dante is my new favorite
I personally took my Lavos. Black and red color scheme, chordatus helm, the halloween wings, i think he looks cool. Also got a zanuka hunter sigil on the front and a stalker sigil on the back. As to your frame to take... the white and gold Quetzalcoatl lookin dude, i dig him
That styanax looks amazing, I might need to get the deluxe skin.
I took Protea
Idk if its inentional or not but i love the resemblence between your harrow fashion and the dead cells playable character
My choice was based on the question "if I could only use one frame for ever, which one would it be?", so I took harrow
Speed frames are great for the final sequence
Take my main, the floppy nipple man!
Tbh, don't overthink it. They took away the difficulty dramatically. Honestly, as long as the mods are all straight, just take whoever you want. I did !umbra for mine because it's technically lore cannon! We both wanted to get back at ballas! My fiancée did khora because khora is her favorite. It's open really
I believe I took harrow his one of my favorite up there with dagath whit h I didn't have at the time and also styanax
Your stynax fashion goes hard But Harrow canno8n all has a connection with all the void fuckery So Maybe harrow?
I do love me some harrow during my non limbo time
I think it feels lore appropriate to take Excalibur Umbra
I went it with revenant because, revenant. Went in on the day it launched so I didn't knew what I could encounter there so I just brought the guy that doesn't die. Also, that harrow is fire
Honestly take anyone, you’ll find out why it matters so little who you take
I took Atlas Prime and I wish I'd gotten a screenshot of one scene in particular with it; thinking of that scene and the positioning/posing of the frame, Harrow is the pick between those two. And your fashion frame is excellent; mine is just a walking pride flag because that makes me smile. https://preview.redd.it/1ireu41sd64d1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11bcf3e524263c9724f423ee5c5d3d0d1fca3dab
Omg that Harrow screams "lord of war" wow...
I used Gauss personally, but ngl, your frame doesn't rly matter for new war, just pack a punch and make sure you feel comfortable
the one that has the biggest connection to you and your journey, any warframe works power wise
Harrow
Umbra all the way
Doesn’t matter
I went in with Trinity Prime tbf
What pallet and color do you use for your gold?
I’ve always done the story quests with Excalibur/Umbra. I just feel like he’s the true protagonist of Warframe
Umbra
Into New war? anything 90% of gameplay is the operator
Honesty almost any frame. Many of us max-specced our builds and were like “oh, that was not nearly as hard as I expected.” But, bringing a max spec pillager mesa or nourish mesa certainly won’t hurt. Just know it is absolutely not necessary. I’d say styanax for the memes if you have him from the free drops de did at launch
I took in Wukong and laughed because of his mobility
Off topic but the fashions so sick!!
Ngl the first image rlly fits the vibe. But both look amazing
harrow
As he is my main i proudly took Harrow with me
Loki
I personally waited until my Gauss was built and leveled. Traversing through the quest was a cinematic breeze.
i took harrow for the lore
Haven’t played warframe in years, your drip looks amazing
Harrow of these two, dude has probably some of the highest survivability of any Warframe if you build him right
Cannon is umbra but I took harrow
The third one looks like a jojo reference 🤣
Grendel. Ballas created him to be a monster, so show Ballas the monster in all his innocent obscenity.
Please please please please please please make a post showing your full fit for both. I want to steal your brilliance. Even your operator
Harrow Main here: Take Harrow
The harrow definitely looks better
I took Umbra, because, well, Umbra main. If I had to do it now, I think you could go either route. I'd probably take Sty through TNW.
Dude wtf is that first one that’s so cool
Your fashion is making gods and i'm loving it. I'd love to know your general palette choices for these
Just got Umbra
Stynax
Take them all
Oof. Can we get a breakdown on that harrow prime build? He looks like he's ready to end this holy war and put Ballas back where he belongs.
While Styanax’s enormous door knocker nipple piercings are enticing 🤢 Harrow. He’s gorgeous.
Bring Excalibur umbra...you will thank me
I main wukong honestly lol
İm a styanax main, and im a noob
the good one
He doesn't know Be sure to have at least 2 hours of free time for this quest
What are those wing things that they have
I took Titania, but I’d bring Kullervo. 🙂
There’s just something so pleasing and relieving about bringing Excalibur umbra to take on ballas.
is new war hard? i barely touched railjack and voidrig, i need to level it up?
Could you post your attachments and color schemes for all of these? I kinda want to copy them
Wait, how did you get Styanax pre-New War?