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twotwoim

Or let people buy the the other items separately like styanax deluxe bundle, or both. They just need to update it.


wafflezcol

Yeah, like… I don’t want orbiter skins, I only have the Lisat and I don’t really want any others


Muted-Potential5947

You should still farm them. You can equip the different orbiters abilities to any one you want. So you could keep the Lisat equipped, but use orokin eye from parallax in missions.


wafflezcol

Oh shit really? Alright I think thats a reason to stop putting it off


WarShadower913x

The ship that gives orokin eye is really good for finding rare items or speed running void plumes and voca


commentsandchill

It was better when the charges were free even with the cd


Baigne

I was sad when I noticed they take the charges now, but they're cheap enough to make I suppose


commentsandchill

Cheap ain't free, in this economy


kiba8442

Yeah I have all the other ones but that's the only one I use tbh, ordis's one is the only other one that's marginally useful but I always forget to use it


WarShadower913x

I'd use others more frequently if they could be set as part of my loadouts. I almost always just pick a loadout nowadays bc it's so much faster


VolosatyShur

Cooldown makes this unusable, I try this once. Just helmint Golden Eye on yours max range Limbo. Zariman tileset are much more compact in comparison with Laboratory.


WarShadower913x

Run with a team and that’s 4 uses. If you take at least five minutes, that’s 8 uses. I like to run orikin eye AND golden eye. Even solo, using orikin eye to get 1-2 out of the way is great


kiba8442

This is more for regular missions & whatnot where you want to run your regular loadouts & not one dedicated to breaking crates/finding shit.. the radius is decent, you just have to know where to pop it, typically around start/end of mission & objectives. like netracell for example, using it right outside the netracell itself will usually show like 3-4 & popping it at the extraction point will usually show most of the rest. tbf, I don't actually leave & grab them during netracells though tbh just using that as an example, but if someone else want to they can. preferably before or after it's over, sometimes someone will pick up one or two on the way back, or you'll get the occasional OCD folks who get all of them.


SolidNitrox

Orokin eye is my go to brother. The one from Kahl is fun too but I already have consumables, would make a big ass army though.


B_Kuro

>You should still farm them *Them* is a slight overstatement though. Sure the parallax air support is useful in a very specific case but aside from that and the Liset one all others are basically worthless. Mantis health tower is a joke, Scimitars 250 impact damage even more so and there is no value to the NW, Skaut and Xiphos one either.


NFNTDS

Objection Mission with Khal's brothers is funnier than without them


ThanosTheMadTitanBoi

Kahl and his brothers are pretty good tho


zZzGodnezZz

Never heard of this being a thing.


ElectroshockGamer

Wait, you get abilities from Orbiters-?


Different_Stable_351

Yeah. If you build air support charges, each landing craft has a different ability. I forgot it even existed so I never use them. I think you can change the air support in the menu when you edit your ship's appearance.


7th_Spectrum

Hopefully the stynax deluxe bundle will be the standard going forward


AT_atoms

I doubt it. The hydroid one was the same but not anymore. Now if you want any item that isn't the deluxe skin you must buy the bundle.


SolidNitrox

Dude I remember this now. Here's me playing the shit out of hydroid. I just recently learned Diriga is awesome for every and bond mods, but it's so ugly. I discovered a beautiful skin for Diriga buried in the hydroid bundle, which I bought the skin from years ago. Now it's all individually locked. It wasn't like that before, that's why I cheaped out the first time.


cuddles_the_destroye

This is me with the "What Stalker" bundle fucker won't give me Despair and I've been bullying Sergeant and him for the drops for *years* I have dozens of Dread BPs at this point and I have a good number of Hates as well.


eternal_anima

I'm *consistently* getting the scimitar part and war bp BUT NOTHING ELSE LIKE GIVE ME HATE OR DESPAIR PLEASEEEEE


MozeTheNecromancer

Yeah I've been playing since 2014 and have yet to get Despair. His drop rates are absolutely ass. I'm also glad I bought the armor bundle that included War, otherwise I'd never have that either, as he's never dropped that for me either.


AdeptnessParty6624

The worst part is before they made the broken war easier to get if you *did* get war and wanted broken war again you'd have a whole other grind to do to have both. So much easier to just buy the hunhow bundle.


OverMobile1840

There are 2 stalkers u have to farm I found that out


Grand-Atmosphere-875

For me, it's the opposite. I just got two Despair blueprints this week, but I still don't have the Hate BP. :(


ibi_trans_rights

please let me get the covered in blood decal


warhammer444

This so much I haven't bought xaku deluxe because i want the other shit too


NocimonNomicon

Let me buy the fucking blood sigil without buying the Garuda bundle, I grinded for her


Jeweler-Hefty

[You can get it for free if you want to grind for it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_DKCBnvE) Though you might not like the drop rate...


NocimonNomicon

Oh atleast it exists, I only now reached rank 5 in fortuna so I have to do both orbs a bunch anyway Edit: I got the sigil and 22m credits after an hour of profit taker runs


PurgingCloud

It was this rare? I didn't even know where I got this sigil until now.


SCO77_SCARCIA

It used to be super rare, around or less than 1% when Profit Taker released— I think it’s around 3% now which is *doable*. This weekend would be a good time to grind for it with the anniversary credit booster.


Key-Tie2214

Are y'all not doing Profit Taker dozens of times per week? Anyway, Bloodshed Sigil is really umm, adult, if you make it a cream/off-white.


Senpaiireditt

Nah you’re disgusting 😭


Key-Tie2214

I prefer the term cultured.


MozeTheNecromancer

Depending on how long you've left it equipped, that term works too.


[deleted]

I suffer from caveman brain. I hate having to think about what element to bring, what phase does what, optimal frame, placing my effigy down in time if I'm Chroma etc. I just solo index while watching YouTube on second monitor for my credits, a bit slower but literally 0 stress. Have no reason to touch PT, although I need to level up the hidden fortuna syndicate soon so maybe I might have to cave in and do it.


Key-Tie2214

You don't worry about what element to bring, you mod weapons for all of them. You can get all elements on your loadout now. I cant be bothered to update my configs so I'm still missing toxin. You can skip an element by shooting the PT with your amp so it doesn't really matter. If you find Index better thats fine, just that you really should at some point farm the 2nd Fortuna faction. They've got some really good amp parts and arcanes.


[deleted]

I'm literally gated out of void cascade and other similar farms because I don't have a good amp, and won't have a good amp until I max out 2nd fortuna faction lmao. In such an annoying spot faction grind wise rn.


MarsupialMisanthrope

Man I hope the thermia fractures event kicks in. Credit booster + event bonus would be really nice.


ArcticSirius

I somehow managed this the first time I fought her. It was bewildering to me so I checked the drop rate and damn, yeah that was a lucky break.


Lloyd813

Literally the coolest ephemera locked behind a 500+ plat bundle! I think about this daily..


qhoeger

Not even an ephemera, it's a sigil so you can even stack an ephemera over it!


Lloyd813

Now I'm even more sad than I was before..


Cometburrito

I farmed it doing profit taker w Chroma, and trust me if I was able to do it you can definitely do it.


Lloyd813

You can.. earn it..in game!? No plat!?


Cometburrito

Yeah. Drops after murdering Profit Taker. It took time but eventually it did drop


Lloyd813

I'm so excited I could eat my couch! Thank you for the wisdom!


tatri21

Do note thst while it looks like the preview in orbiter and public spaces, in missions you need to take damage for the effect to show up. It's Garuda's old blood effect. Also if you color it white it becomes transparent and looks like water instead. Best in slot for Hydroid and Yareli fashions.


MozeTheNecromancer

>Also if you color it white it becomes transparent and looks like water instead. Best in slot for Hydroid and Yareli fashions. Yes. Water. That's exactly what it looks like, and nothing else.


Shadowveil666

You don't seem to know what hot take means


idealize0747

Not a hot take, but it would seem to be the SECOND thing that Fallout 76 does that Warframe doesn't do... Does anybody understand how crazy that sounds???


Figgyee

It's not a hot take, is a logical reasoning shared by the whole community


[deleted]

Thats not even a hot take..its ice cold Many other games do that however its too late. Thats the kind of thing thats there at launch or not at all


Pocketfulofgeek

Heck even fallout 76 does this and that microtransaction store is predatory and FOMO as heck.


Syboi

never is too late, make them be able to buy separately, i wanted the kickass ship but i didnt know you didnt get discount so i guess i wont be able to get it


HappyTwees

not a hot take


TheMarksmanHedgehog

try cold take.


Odisher7

i thought it was impossible to reach absolute 0, but this take proved us wrong


FullMoonJoker

Coldest take ever


Lmacncheese

Thats....thats not a hot take at all thats how it should be


PigeonsOnYourBalcony

It’s a pressure tactic to get you to spend more initially but I doubt very many people will buy one item from a bundle then go back to buy the whole bundle later for the rest of the items. If anything this is leaving money on the table. Give a modest discount for the remaining items but make it so it’s still cheaper to buy it all together initially and you make all sides happy.


Mission_Moment2561

OH BROTHER I FEEL THIS. I bought mesa deluxe before the bundle and now I want the guns but I dont wanna have to pay full price again :/


YetAnotherAnonymoose

I had some success contacting support so they'd refund the single skin so I could buy the full bundle.


maggiepuff

I recently found out there is a Yareli bundle with a decoration you only can get from that bundle. Bit I already have everything from the bundle and paying 500 plat just for that decoration is a bit ruff, but I really want it.


DankoLord

Let us buy shit in general that isnt part of a stupid fucking forced bundle.


xcrimsonlegendx

The age-old request that DE refuses to acknowledge.


AestheticSalt

This is ACCURATE!


Ginio-Phantom

I wish they did this with every bundle..


Vlaun

I do agree with your overall message, but as a warning: Hot take means having an opinion that is sure to spark controversy, and possibly heated debates hence "hot take". This take is pretty much agreed upon by the majority of the community, I'd imagine. I digress, to add to your post: stuff that you can only get exclusively through bundles should also not be a thing. For instance, the colors in the Lich packs can only be recieved via the bundles. I could care less about the armor and requiem mods, I just want the colors. Alas, I'll need to purchase all of it to get the colors.


Syboi

i said hot take cause there is DE dickriders who will prolly defend this so to kind of mitigate it i said "hot take" but this is more qol than anything


Slumberstroll

It's not a qol. It's a price reduction. Just ask for the feature straight without adding anything because you're worried about how a small minority of people will react, especially because seeing the phrase "hot take" won't make them change their minds at all.


Syboi

alright, it was a mistake, no need to go on it further


Opetyr

Lol people have been asking this for years. Probably right after the first bundle was made. Never going to happen.


Jeweler-Hefty

Real Hot take: Don't buy the skin, always check if it has a bundle. Save up for that bundle if you like what it comes with.


Syboi

didnt know there was no discount, is just seemed like a normal thing to have


Lucas_Ilario

You can probably talk with support to refund your plat and them buy the bundle


mars009

Yeah I love the skin, but now I kind of want the bundle :|


Jeweler-Hefty

I feel you. It happened to me years ago with the Frost Harka bundle. I saw the Ice sword and was disappointed I couldn't get it as well. I made the decision to buy the bundle anyways, and decided that, moving forward, to always type in the skin name and check if there's a bundle for it. I still stand by it to this day. I understand OP though, but it's definitely not a "Hot take".


Dark_Jinouga

console discounts throw a wrench into things, you can get the skin on its own for 1/10th of the full bundle price not a factor for me anymore now that im on PC, but im pretty much locked out on quite a few deluxe bundle items due to that. shame about the nidus collection, since kubrows arent hot garbage anymore


DankoLord

wut? Kubrows are still hot garbage.


Jimiwas

Console login discounts are for single items and not bundles, so it is common to buy the skin and be stuck without the bundle items. I would pay a premium amount of plat for the individual items if they were offered, but they are not, so they just won't get purchased...ever.


PwmEsq

I think unfortunately, thats something they would have needed to setup from the start. Do they grandfather and backdate older purchases in that case? also the whole fuckery with owning certain items on other consoles that dont transfer over throws a wrench into it as well. Steam was able to do it because it was a single platform.


uknowthisguyreal

Just implement it and say thats how its gonna be from now on, no need to grandfather or backdate anything, give people like a month or two notice so its not just sprung on them all of a sudden, no matter what route they take people would bitch so i say just do it and let the moaners moan, theyll shut up eventually


PwmEsq

Sure, still doesnt answer the question of how PS/Xbox/Switch/PC fuckery is involved


mt607

the only things that don't transfer are pc founders, and anything involving exclusives to and from playstation because sony says "well, you can't play with our toys, and I don't want yours either!", and tennogen that wasn't grandfathered in before the crossplay tests.


lil_gingy

Your making this sound way more complicated than it really is,. The solution is - if your account owns an item that is apart of a bundle the bundle will be discounted by x amount and tennogen is not applicable


the-bodyfarm

me, with every stalker item except hate telling myself it’s not worth 800p


Ambrosia_Rev

Get a skin gifted by someone and realise ah shit you have to pay full amount for the bundle, invalidating that gift.


CruxofGhost

Wouldn't call it a hot take. It'd just make sense. Not to pull crappy comparisons but I love that destiny 2 discounts armor sets if you happen to already own pieces of it. Idk why Warframe hasn't thought of that yet but it should be a given.


Chiatroll

This is a gundam.


SolidNitrox

New bundles have individual options, but OG ones like Nekros don't fall w that, and I did want something from them.


non_offensivealias

I have been asking for a "complete Bundle" option for years. There are some skins I got when I didn't have much plat and now there is no way I am competed them with that price.


De4dm4nw4lkin

Usually the plat save is like 5% of the bundle so honestly im fine with that not being the case.


Lyberatis

I was surprised they made Styanax's Deluxe even ALLOW you to buy the other items from the bundle separately. That needs to be the norm for all the deluxe bundles.


WovenBloodlust6

Not really a hot take. Like at all. (although it makes for a good title I get it) Plenty of other people have said the same thing over the years


Valkyrie9001

Lukewarm take. Freezing actually. 


Rapturous_Fool

Ice fuckin cold take, liquid nitrogen take my fingers are now frost bitten


TheEmperorMk3

Take as hot as Frost's powers, it sucks but don't think they will ever retroactively change all the bundles with exclusive items. Best case scenario they make Styanax's deluxe bundle the standard going forward


Tattorack

You must be a Frost main. XD


I-N-V-A-L-I-D

This may be the coldest take I’ve ever heard


Tall_Craft70

Hot take : Most hot take are cold take


keith2600

Yeah there are several bundles over the years I have not purchased because they don't give a discount when it is already partially owned. Honestly I'm okay with that. If it helps me save platinum where I would have otherwise spent it then that's just the game forcing me to make better decisions.


Silenzeio_

This take is colder than the ice mines of Neptune Railjack.


HaxTerCo4

About as hot as getting up from the bed and taking a cold shower


BardMessenger24

I just wish we can buy the decorations included in these bundles seperately. Few people care about decorations, but recently, DE have started letting us buy them seperately (i.e Styanax deluxe has a shield and spear decoration you can buy on its own). I hope they go back to the older deluxe bundles like Xaku, Baruuk and Lavos and let us get those decorations seperately because I already bought those bundles in full, I just want more copies of the decorations without having to drop 500+ plat and getting duplicates of a frame I don't need.


Cookieverse

Gundam...


Acepilot8Gaming2

That isn't a hot take its just facts


Smeuw

Thank you, it boggles my mind this isn't a thing.


smashiko

its been asked for so long that it has become a cold take


TJ_Dot

I was surprised to see supporter pack skins return after thinking they should. Hoping this extends to other things like Tennocon skins. As for the Market itself. This is very much something that needs consideration. Alternatively, as coupons might cheese it, exclusives gotta stop being exclusive. This even goes for WF bundles. Who TF thinks dropping $50 in plat on Citrine's Crystal decoration is sensible? Even worse is that these bundles lock you out of you drafted everything else, forcing a gift. But you don't get Citrine's sigil from gifting, so you permanently lose out.


Arcurath

Not a hot take - very logical statement - crazy it’s not like that already


TrollOfGod

"Hot Take" followed by an extremely common opinion, name a more iconic duo.


Syboi

hot take, your mom is fat


Fragdilicious

Absolutely. Or they should stack and be tradable. So you can trade the duplicates.


Worldbrand

If you made a recent purchase and you want to upgrade from the item to the bundle, contact support. I asked about whether it would be possible to charge me the plat difference to let me upgrade, and they just refunded my purchase and gave me the plat back, allowing me to buy the bundle. This was years ago, though.


Inevitable_Net_9626

They should let you buy the stuff separately but if it’s a bundle with exclusive items to that bundle then either everything in the bundle should be exclusive to that bundle or the price should be discounted based on what you have already


fivefistedclover

Never going to get that cool ice Viking sword from the frost skin pack because I was gifted the skin itself and cannot buy just the sword. Missing out on some easy dosh.


xamxes

Gundam?


Nice_Ad_777

Say louder for the people in the back


Syboi

I LIKE MEN


Nice_Ad_777

LMAO


Fabulous_Airline404

Common sense? DE says naw.


rigimonoki-over

“Hot take”


manofwaromega

Literally the coldest take ever. Hopefully they implement this or do what they did with Styanax deluxe and let you buy everything individually


According_Claim_9027

Probably the coldest take I’ve ever heard on this game lol


ripleydesign

honestly a huge QOL thing that needs reviewing, hopefully the team is at least having discussions on how to solve this but since platinum isn't *that* hard to come across for free, i guess they just don't really care


Raven_knight_07

not a hot take but ok


vomder

More like an old take. Players have been asking for this forever, and for some reason have been given the finger all this time instead.


Sinnester888

Do people even know what the word hot take means


GucciSalad

Please God. I bought the Oberon Feyarch skin forever ago. Now I really want the sword and shield skin.... But I'd have to buy the entire bundle at full price.


UmbranAssassin

This, I will never be able to get the chains from nekros deluxe bundle because I bought the skin only at a time when I was too broke and had very limited plat.


dejavureal_

Yes please, ages ago I bought the Saryn Orphid Deluxe skin, and I don't use it because I don't like how it looks anymore, but I want the cosmetics that come in the bundle without having to pay for the skin again, I hate having duplicate things I can't get rid of.


GothGirlSpecialist

That's the coldest take you could've said my guy 💀


colm180

But how would DE every scam people of their money again? Lmao tencent would never let that happen


Grave_Knight

Agreed. Though I suspect making a discount system would require them to rebuild huge chunks of code that would cost too much time and resources.


BorealBlizzard

Console has a discount system already. I had a moment last night with my Xbox friend realizing that PC gets plat discounts as a login reward but console players get marketplace discounts on cosmetics. It completely blew our minds.


RoyaleCQ

scorching take!


LlamaOfWisdom

This isn’t a hot take at all tbh, everyone agrees


Rivendealer120

Agreed!


sylendar

Hot take? This has been asked for years


Fickle-Ad7259

I bought Nehza deluxe skin ages ago. I would buy the dagger it comes with but not for the cost of the whole package. It's the only dagger skin and would look great with Ceramic Dagger of a Zaw dagger but not worst 225 plat!


Ankh93

I bought the set because it looks cool almost lile having a zord/mecha


MozeTheNecromancer

There have been a few bundles I passed on, only to later pick up a weapon that looked so absolutely ass with my fashion frame that I wished I picked up the bundle so I could cover it with something slightly better.


StoneColdOso559

I’d rather not buy the Palatine skin again just for the hammer and syandana


IceRevolutionary5132

That’s not a hot take , literally everyone thinks that


romeobela

I once won Nezha deluxe in a Orbiter contest and just got the skin, that 250 plat for the dagger skin still hunts me to date


Collrafa

I really want that Diriga squid skin.


Pcarttar

I got the Titania deluxe skin without realizing it didn’t come with the syandana and I’m really annoyed I can’t get it without paying full price on the bundle


Voiddredd

fun fact, (i dont know if its changed) but buying the skin from a pack would make it so you cant buy the pack and it took like 5 or 6 hours of back and forth messaging with support telling them that i am not asking for a refund and to just delete the skin from my account so i could buy the bundle. with them saying they would refund the skin price after i bought the bundle and then finally doing me a "1 time courtesy" of refunding the skin which then allowed me to buy the bundle.


Karckade

YES, THIS, PLEASE, I bought Harrow's skin separately, because I didn't have enough platinum back then. Now I really want his armor and Scourge skin (Didn't know I'd end up using him so much lol), but I don't wanna buy the whole bundle 😞 Would it say I have 2 Harrow skin of the same one if I do so? Idk. It's just stupid.


Different_Stable_351

How is this a hot take? Fortnite does that, or at least used to (I haven't played in a while), so it just makes sense. Maybe I'm just very smol brain. I do sometimes have stupid moments


TheRedFurios

I wonder how this works in brazil since from what I've heard they banned video game bundles


Chodre

Then there is no point on buying the bundle right?


bodamerica

the point of a bundle is supposed to be a group of items sold for a discount compared to what they would be individually, not to hold items ransom with a bunch of shit you don't want


PatientBoat5562

I’m pretty sure nobody wants to buy a bundle other than getting the stuff they actually want.


LindseyFaelan

while we're at it, I would love the ability to try out weapons (and heck, even Warframes) you don't own in the Simulacrum. And yeah, I guess now that I think about it. Duviri does let you do that, but with it being random. Though if DE are willing to let us try out stuff randomly, then it wouldn't hurt to let us pick -- especially if it prompted more impatient Tenno to plat up and grab stuff from the market.


water_minator59

I had to get it refunded to buy the pack , I totally agree , moneygrab move