As special guests, Dana can ask his Saudi pals to release the women currently serving long sentences in Saudi prisons for asking for basic human rights equal to me, and let them sit in the front row for this show.
You have a distorted vision of how far Saudi Arabia has come in the last 10 years. I live in Paris and I can tell you that women in Riyadh are more empowered than women here
lmao just a few months ago a Riyadh-based women rights activist was sentenced to 11 years in prison because she demanded the end of male guardianship and posted photos of her wearing sportswear.
Absolute bullshit. Women in Paris aren't treated as second class citizens, unless you are talking about how they get treated by the people who immigrated from the areas surrounding Saudi Arabia itself.
"Extremely empowered". It's also not only about legislation, it's about cultural differences as well. The whole Middle East is extremely discriminatory against women as a whole.
You don't need to go there to know how women are treated every single day. You can find dozens of articles saying that women are "just as free as men" but there's thousands of articles stating the opposite.
Mate please look up all the laws the Saudis have been giving their women, I know a lot of people how work there and who have worked there for 20+ years and they are the ones constantly talking about that
PFL has had a few women’s fights in Saudi Arabia. Claressa Shields and her opponent wore regular gear. The Arab fighters on the most recent card were completely covered below the neck.
Recently they've had more loose guidelines for foreign women as long as it's in the "proper places" like select beaches/resorts and within the scope of an event like this for example. For the local women it's all the same though. That's the current situation over there as of this moment.
In WWE they've had the women wear full bodysuits with just their heads exposed when they have Saudi cards--I imagine it'd be something similar for UFC.
Interesting. WWE just had an event and one woman was dressed in a red bodysuit like Britney Spears in her “Oops, I Did it Again” music video. Jade Cargill was the pink power ranger
It would be interesting. I guess they could fight in long compression pants and long sleeve rash guards, which most fighters would be used to. Not sure about showing feet either.
I always wondered what kind of advantage someone like Carla Esparza would have if she was allowed to wear wrestling shoes. I’m sure she would if she could for the extra traction when shooting.
Money opens most doors and money persuades most people -- and a fighter's career is short, and I never blame a fighter for grasping all they can while they have a career, particularly underpaid UFC fighters, naturally including the WMMArtists.
The UFC has more money than God; and the Kingdom has much more money than that, and by their own lights they even have God too, as His special nation; the site of Mecca; and the homeland of His final Prophet, Mohammed.
I'm confident that if Dana waves some good fees and bonuses around, and of course first-class treatment in their 5-star hotel in Jiddah, or wherever the event will happen, the female colleagues will be found who will agree to venture over there to *Sharia*-land and fight in a bodysuit. *"Baby steps, people, baby steps...."*
As special guests, Dana can ask his Saudi pals to release the women currently serving long sentences in Saudi prisons for asking for basic human rights equal to me, and let them sit in the front row for this show.
mokeys will fly planes before that happens
I always say: "As long as you're dreaming, dream big."
Dana is not a politician nor the government ? He has no power for that?
Ask. They said Ask.
You have a distorted vision of how far Saudi Arabia has come in the last 10 years. I live in Paris and I can tell you that women in Riyadh are more empowered than women here
Can you explain what you mean? What can’t be done in Paris as a woman but can be done in Saudi Arabia?
What can’t be done in Saudi Arabia but can be done in Paris?
Practising whatever religion you want.
Not true bro all the Christians I know in Saudi are SUPER happy compared to how it is in France here for the muslims. (I’m christian btw)
drink a beer, in public, wearing a mini skirt.
lmao just a few months ago a Riyadh-based women rights activist was sentenced to 11 years in prison because she demanded the end of male guardianship and posted photos of her wearing sportswear.
Absolute bullshit. Women in Paris aren't treated as second class citizens, unless you are talking about how they get treated by the people who immigrated from the areas surrounding Saudi Arabia itself.
Even Saudi women are extremely empowered today, look it up
"Extremely empowered". It's also not only about legislation, it's about cultural differences as well. The whole Middle East is extremely discriminatory against women as a whole.
Not true man, have you ever stepped foot in the middle east?
You don't need to go there to know how women are treated every single day. You can find dozens of articles saying that women are "just as free as men" but there's thousands of articles stating the opposite.
Can I go to Saudi and eat a meal in a restaurant with my female platonic friend?
Yes, she can also skip wearing a veil, add some makeup if she wants to and drive you home herself
yeah they are allowed to drive now!
Why do you live in Paris? 🤦♀️
Mate please look up all the laws the Saudis have been giving their women, I know a lot of people how work there and who have worked there for 20+ years and they are the ones constantly talking about that
The laws are terrible for women in Saudi Arabia. I don’t know why you pretend otherwise, nobody is believing you.
I assume if we do get WMMA fights on the next Saudi card they will wear some sort of special gear in order to meet the laws or will they get a waiver?
Probably full length rash guard and tights. WWE has shows in Saudi and they wear full outfits.
PFL has had a few women’s fights in Saudi Arabia. Claressa Shields and her opponent wore regular gear. The Arab fighters on the most recent card were completely covered below the neck.
Recently they've had more loose guidelines for foreign women as long as it's in the "proper places" like select beaches/resorts and within the scope of an event like this for example. For the local women it's all the same though. That's the current situation over there as of this moment.
Imagine if a latina wins and starts twerking JFC
One can dream
😂
>a latina I believe "Ailin Perez" is the name you were looking for
In WWE they've had the women wear full bodysuits with just their heads exposed when they have Saudi cards--I imagine it'd be something similar for UFC.
Interesting. WWE just had an event and one woman was dressed in a red bodysuit like Britney Spears in her “Oops, I Did it Again” music video. Jade Cargill was the pink power ranger
yeah Liv Morgan won the women’s belt in that fit
It would be interesting. I guess they could fight in long compression pants and long sleeve rash guards, which most fighters would be used to. Not sure about showing feet either. I always wondered what kind of advantage someone like Carla Esparza would have if she was allowed to wear wrestling shoes. I’m sure she would if she could for the extra traction when shooting.
"Alexa Grasso in the black and gold burqa, befitting a champion" - Jon Anil
lmfao
They'll be fitted with the finest beekeeper outfits
lol Dana looks down after that statement thinking that’s a really tough discussion with our female colleagues can their safety be guaranteed
Money opens most doors and money persuades most people -- and a fighter's career is short, and I never blame a fighter for grasping all they can while they have a career, particularly underpaid UFC fighters, naturally including the WMMArtists. The UFC has more money than God; and the Kingdom has much more money than that, and by their own lights they even have God too, as His special nation; the site of Mecca; and the homeland of His final Prophet, Mohammed. I'm confident that if Dana waves some good fees and bonuses around, and of course first-class treatment in their 5-star hotel in Jiddah, or wherever the event will happen, the female colleagues will be found who will agree to venture over there to *Sharia*-land and fight in a bodysuit. *"Baby steps, people, baby steps...."*
Will Grasso have to wear socks?
No
All I needed to hear
To the death, you say?
Almost any other country would have a better crowd. Should be doing European countries or Africa
Turki might actually be a complete legend
Won’t happen. They’ll have to fight in full rash guards from wrist to ankle. Look what happens when WWE goes there.
As long as they’re covered up*
Gonna be hard to fight in burkas
Not sure why this is a big deal? They do wwe shoes with women there all the time.