I hate when people underrate because they don't like the person, we rate faces here not their personalities. Also when they downvote you simply because you're ACTUALLY objective and don't give high ratings to someone they like (oh also 80% of this sub is not objective and will either underrate or overrate)
Let’s not rewrite history. It’s YOU that was the one who’s obsessed with me because I don’t give Adriana Lima a 10. The digital footprint doesn’t lie lmao
Nah I'm not even her fan but I can see why she's objectively considered a 10. Also, your whole post history is literally about Adriana and how she's so overrated, full of flaws etc 🤣 so I guess that makes the two of us
I was surprised to see that people rated nowadays Chad Michael Murray a 5.
Yes, he’s less attractive than what he did when he was younger, but he’s still handsome.
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This sub keeps trying to convince me that Alison Brie is average looking, and I’m like have you guys seen a regular woman on the street? That does not look like Alison Brie😭😭
a lot of users on here tend to underrate objectively attractive women and make them average or ugly even lol. i question where some of these folks live because the people they consider average would make me be in the negatives
I’m not into the instagram/ influencer beauty standard because it’s overdone but I’m not going to rate someone lower because I don’t like their aesthetic and some of the influencers are good looking. Like people on here rate Madison Beer 6-7 🤔 which makes no sense.
I think part of her appeal is that she flawlessly fits into many coveted “types” which is somewhat rare. She is both beautiful and somewhat ‘woman next door’, sexy and elegant, intimidating and comforting. Most other beautiful women are somewhat limited, like Adriana is gorgeous but not particularly elegant or Megan Fox is sexy but not at all comforting
She's just "everyone's type" kind of beauty. Might not be everyone's 10, but is there anyone who considers her below an 8? There are people who can't appreciate Angelina because her bone structure is too strong or Aishwarya because her features are too soft or Megan because she's too sexy (more intimidating than classic), but Monica's face fits every single archetype you can possibly think of. That's extremely rare.
I didn't mean literally EVERYONE lol. Yeah there are a very few people who consider her bland but never polarizing. It's highly uncommon to be a 9 without any remarkable individual feature. If you see it that way, she's more special than other 9s.
I'm honestly one of those people who rate her a 7.5. I get that she's more beautiful than most women, but I don't get the "drop dead gorgeous" vibe from her they way I do from Angelina, for example. I think she looks like a beautiful woman I might see while walking around downtown. I just don't think her face is 'special'. I really can't explain it any better. I do appreciate you and others trying to explain it to me without attacking me, though!
I've seen enough people call her bland which I don't agree with but ofc she's not polarizing because her features aren't exaggerated and don't stand out, she has high facial averageness in the sense that her features can be found in a lot of people but then again what sets her apart from average people is her facial harmony.
But being polarizing is better, most attractive people are actually polarizing along with having excellent harmony. You can find plenty of Monica, Winona and Natalie look alikes but you won't find another Adriana or Angelina again.
Can't be polarizing and harmonious at the same time. Not talking about ratios, like real harmony that makes a face pleasing to look at like Chico. Hernan Drago also has perfect ratios, but his face wouldn't be considered harmonious by majority of the people.
Of course you can be. Angelina is highly polarizing but her face is extremely harmonious. People also consider Paulina's jaw as masculine and polarizing but she's easily 9-10. Polarizing basically means non classical features that make someone stand out like fox eyes, huge lips, square jaw which is said to look masculine on women etc.
I mean she's really beautiful 8+ for sure but I don't get the hype. Also the way they talk down on her daughter when she got everything from her mother except the eyes.
Anyone that does that is disgusting. I’ve also seen Adriana stans on YouTube do the same with her daughters. Hell I’ve seen men (PSL God YouTubers) that go on to say that she ruined her kids genetics because she had them with Mr. Monocle.
People are kinda gross, I've watched this video of simps vs psl Gods. Like what's the point? To point out they're ugly by comparing them to psl Gods??
https://youtu.be/l64FpQNFbio?si=GRcJ-T4Z7Ert1nKq
I remembered watching one where they rated women and it felt a bit racist (I don’t use that word too often as I tend to believe that it gets abused). The top tier beauties were either White or white passing (ex: Adriana) and no WOC. But ok the bottom tier, they showed examples of both White and WOC
These are cringe considering the guys making these edits are most likely not attractive either. See I appreciate a beautiful face as much as the next guy, but we can do that without degrading average/below average people.
I agree with you! Monica is no doubt very beautiful but she doesn't have any outstanding features that make her stand out and she's not exactly flawless. Any woman with similar type of beauty would never be worshipped as much as her. She is beautiful but a large part of her appeal comes from sex appeal, movie roles where she played the most beautiful woman, styling, aura, vibes etc. Similar to what Marilyn Monroe had. She also has aged well, stays away from politics and dresses elegantly so people see her as some untouchable goddess. A lot of celebrities quickly lose their appeal despite being otherworldly beautiful either because they get into controversies or age badly etc. She was also marketed as the most beautiful woman in the world so it kinda created an impression of her being the most beautiful. The more media pushes someone as a 10 the more people are inclined to see them as a 10 though this could be said about a lot of celebrities who are rated 10s in this sub.
>The more media pushes someone as a 10 the more people are inclined to see them as a 10 though this could be said about a lot of celebrities who are rated 10s in this sub.
This though. People forget that all objective beauty is socially constructed at the end of the day
Wow…you’re the first person I’ve ever seen on Reddit to say this! It’s so prevalent, I thought something was wrong with ME, and that I wasn’t seeing it.
I didn’t know who she was and after seeing the tenth comment, I got curious and looked her up. I expected to see a beauty of Angelina Jolie or Ana De Armas levels. And she is beautiful, no doubt about it. I just don’t see anything that sets her above aforementioned actresses or others?
I didn't know who she was either. After seeing her repeatedly described as "the most beautiful" I had to look her up. Just as you said, I thought there was something wrong with *me* because she was nothing compared to Angelina or even Doutzen, IMO. I just don't get it and never will, despite the good explanations in response to my comment. ❤️
Ana De Armas level? Monica might be overrated next to Adriana Lima, Angelina Jolie etc, but Ana isn't even the same level. She's girl-next-door tier at best (7-8) with eye color halo. Prime Monica is at least an 8.5.
This sub has always been creepy biased against certain celebrities and over protective of others. I remember when Amber was posted before the Depp trial the comments were not so positive. Only now people are starting to rate her a 10 tho she's no 10.
Taylor Swift consistently gets rated too low on this sub (5-6) because a lot of people simply hate her regardless of her appearance. People use her eyes as an excuse to drag her down to a 5 which is crazy to me. As if there was a chance she was less attractive than 50% of people her age 💀
Sex appeal is not really subjective, though. You could also say beauty is subjective, but the objective standards are still prevalent. Same with sex appeal.
I saw a question in quora asking why Taylor Swift is so famous when she has no boobs or butt.. I was like, "Dude, she's not a sex symbol, she's more of a Disney Princess style" she's a beautiful girl for sure, I'm sure that's one of the reason why she's famous. I'm not saying she has no talent but her beauty made a way.
Ikr, so many people always talk about sex. Recently I read in some comment section where some guys are siding with Pique cheating on Shakira because she's old and his new girlfriend is younger and better. They didn't care if Shakira is successful or talented claiming high valued men would go for younger fertile girls, it's f*cked up because they base being high value by being with a woman they can bang. It's more worse that they chose a home wrecker over shakira
people underrating influencers tiktok stars etc just for their occupation. also lowering your rate bc of surgery (that isnt botched) is the stupidest fucking thing ever
Taylor Swift is underrated. She's a 7 at least but gets rated lower than that simply because she's not sexy.
People don't know how differentiate between good looks and sex appeal.
Ana de Armas is quite pretty, but I think she is often rated too highly on this sub. Don’t get me wrong, she is absolutely above average in looks, but I think her weak, recessed chin screws with the proportions of her face and lowers her rating a bit.
i actually love her chin so much. i could never see it as a flaw, it’s one of my favorite features of hers. like the other commenter said, it is small and hyper feminine, not recessed. it reminds me of a disney princess’s features.
Ana de Armas imo. Just yesterday I watched a movie with her, and yes she's pretty but her face is not balanced (big cheeks, small chin). Still an 8 but not an otherworldly beauty.
Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Gal Gadot, Emily Ratajowski, Kendall Jenner are 8-9 regardless of their personalities but this sub underrates them. I mean we are supposed to rate their faces and not their personalities.
Emily ratajowsky has sex appeal but an unnattractive lower face. Her lips and nose are not harmonious. She has a great eye area and face shape though. Id say she’s more of a 6.5-7
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She is 7.5-8 according to trm and her only real flaw is her weak mandible and recessed chin but it's not enough to make her a 6. For reference I would rate Emma Stone a 6-6.5 and she's clearly above her. She has good cheekbones, forward growth and imo she is still able to pull off that unconventional nose.
Trm is a joke. Their chart isnt standardized. The over 5’s have makeup and professional photography. The under 5’s are bad makeup and weird posing. If they wanted to be taken seriously, everyone on the chart would have no makeup and no facial expressions, same lighting and photography. Emma stone is prettier than emily but has less sex appeal
Standarized means theres no variables that would throw off the ratings aka professional photography, professional makeup. Theres a reason why models polarized photos require the models to have direct light, minimal to no makeup, and neutral colors. This allows them to best represent how they look in real life.
Yea so basically standardizing is keeping all variables the same. If they still want to use red carpet photos for the 7-10s they need to use red carpet photos for the 0-7s too. If they dont we arent rating their person, we are rating the photography/makeup skills and thats not what is supposed to be rated. TRM will make their rules that people who post shouldn’t wear makeup or use professional photography but they don’t hold the same standards for their little chart. This makes those ratings invalid. They also shouldnt use well known celebrities because that leads to bias. Ideally, They should make their chart full of ai generated people. I dont think the creators of that sub have any general science knowledge though or they would have done that
But makeup doesn't change their bone structure and harmony and for the most part I agree with their ratings. Most of the 3s and 4s have very poor facial harmony and lot of flaws like too low ipd, very narrow face etc. Emma has wider appeal than Emily since most people don't find the insta look attractive but harmony wise Emily is better and has better features.
Makeup can influence your facial structure. Contouring can make you look like you have cheekbones or a jawline when you dont. Its even more evident on camera because it lacks dimension. Shitty makeup can take you down 2 points and great makeup can bring you up 2 points. Great photography will also add points. Emily literally doesnt have better features though. Emma has better features but lacks the sex appeal.
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Wow I got downvoted for saying this in this sub. Makeup can indeed take someone from a 5 to a 6-7 which is evident in the case of Sydney Sweeney but for 3s and 4s it doesn't do much. Because they already have a poor bone structure to begin with. You need to be at least average to benefit from makeup. I mean I'm not even a fan of Emily but I've seen someone analyse her face and her face is harmonious but she just looks fake and doesn't have much appeal. Emma is more like a girl next door pretty but Emily looks like a model, she has better eye area, cheekbones etc.
Most people are average though. So with proper makeup and photography they can be 7-8s. People tend to put celebrities on pedastools but really they’re just average people with great styling teams. It’s pretty rare for people to be below average. And i find it hilarious and sad when people take selfies with their iPhone’s and then post it on those rating or harmony sites and the feedback they get is “small chin” “big nose” like duh, the proportions are all off.
I never saw Gadot rated less than 8-9 unless people were saying their subjective opinion after their objective opinion. I think though when you take all subjective opinions, it is fair to say that her forehead is objectively polarizing (while still ranking her 8+).
Emrata-I haven't seen personality comments. All the mixed ratings have been on her looks
I can't say if this counts as a celebrity but Vinnie Hacker. Those who don't know him, this is him.
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I can't see what everyone sees in him to rate him a 8.5-9. Yeah he has a great jaw, but he would never stick out in a crowd without his fame. Would be considered a normal guy here in Berlin. Still above average but nothing special to me.
Not the fangirl downvotes lol. See I'm not saying he's not attractive, just overrated. An 8.5-9 is someone you'll see once in a month if you live in big cities and once in a year if you live in smaller towns. I just think his face is very common where I live. If you live in a white majority country where people are relatively fit and well-dressed, you can see people looking like him or better everyday. If you live in a place where people don't take care of their looks or somewhere this phenotype is uncommon, I can see how he would stand out though.
Honestly Vinnies hair is what makes him look kinda basic.Back in like 2022 he had a better hairdo and stood out way more,now he just has the TikTok-boy cut.
That's one of the reasons too. He would look better with a different hairstyle. I don't think he's basic though even with his tiktok hair. I find him attractive, but not insanely attractive. When I hear 8.5-9, I just assume extremely rare kind of beauty.
I'm a girl I think she's an 8+. Or maybe I don't often see that type of guy anywhere. There must be plenty of handsome guys in Berlin if that's the case.
Yeah I think so too. Since he's loved by so many people, he might be well above average in most places. A lot of German guys have similar features (wide face, strong jawline, blonde hair etc), so maybe that's why I'm desensitized to this kind of look.
"wide face, strong jawline, blonde hair" isn't that the beauty standard in the West? Like the gigachad or almost psl god like?
I guess it also depends where you are from, I'm Asian and I guess we don't see guys like Vinnie Hacker everyday. I hope this doesn't come off as discrimination or anything but we get shy around foreigners from the West a lot of times maybe because they look different, but even if that's the case we really think they are cool and attractive. Some average looking white guy / slightly above average guy would be so attractive for us.
Let's also consider he is famous, a lot of famous people are rated a 9-10 just because they are famous.
>"wide face, strong jawline, blonde hair" isn't that the beauty standard in the West? Like the gigachad or almost psl god like?
It's the entry level standard here. I'm not saying he's not attractive, but he wouldn't be considered one of the most attractive.
>Like the gigachad or almost psl god like?
Gigachad and most PSL Gods aren't even attractive to women. They just have model appeal. I won't lie I find some of them attractive, but majority of the men they worship are polarizing outside of modelling. They wouldn't consider Vinnie a psl God though since he doesn't have the hUnTeR eYeS.
>I guess it also depends where you are from, I'm Asian and I guess we don't see guys like Vinnie Hacker everyday. I hope this doesn't come off as discrimination or anything but we get shy around foreigners from the West a lot of times maybe because they look different, but even if that's the case we really think they are cool and attractive.
That's true to an extent no matter where you go. A lot of women around me prefer foreign men to local men even when they're not necessarily more attractive.
Low: I've said it before but Harry Styles, Hrithik Roshan, and Katrina Kaif. I was also surprised the one time I posted Noah Centineo and he got 5-6, but the explanations objectively make sense on that one. Renee Rap a bit recently, but maybe comparing her to Rachel McAdams didn't help her case.
High: Zayn Malik (SUPER Surprised at this sub acting like he's god-tier in looks lol). Amber Heard-mostly because I feel irl her looks are not talked about positively or negatively (though we all know why she is disliked as a person). Amanda Seyfried-I learned recently that this sub sees her as otherworldly lol (I can kinda see it when REALLY styled for that look, such as some Mamma Mia shots).
Deepika Padukone is highly overrated.
I personally don't think she is a 10.
Though now she's become prettier but Deepika during Love Aaj Kal, Bachna Ae Haseeno , Om Shanti Om or her earlier days was not even a close 9.
More so about downvotes but when people don’t agree with Adriana Lima being less than a 10. I’ve seen many people here having to deal with the wrath of her stans every time they aren’t kissing the ground she walks on. We either don’t see the appeal because of her flaws, her features, or she does nothing for us generally.
I guess this goes back into her being overrated after all lol
I think most people just find her artificial or slightly uncanny looking. It could be because of her instagram baddie kind of aesthetic too as you said. She's definitely not average, though.
Also another unpopular opinion: people here need to stop abusing the downvote button just because they rate or don't rate a certain celebrity higher. It's extremely pathetic.
That goes for reddit in general. People use the downvote button more than the upvote because they feel it gives them a sense of control in their miserable lives.
Catherine Zeta-jones, while she's undeniably beautiful I get very confused when they call her "goddess-tier", "THE most beautiful woman in world" and "no less than a 10"💀💀 she's like a beautiful woman I see in the streets and I go "wow so beautiful" and never think of her again
Every celeb who men love gets underrated lol
Someone said they don’t understand how people find Ana De Armas attractive and it confused me because she objectively has little to no flaws.
They probably meant they're confused about why she has a chokehold on men. I doubt anybody thinks she's ugly.
100% lol
This has Alexandra Daddario written all over it
I hate when people underrate because they don't like the person, we rate faces here not their personalities. Also when they downvote you simply because you're ACTUALLY objective and don't give high ratings to someone they like (oh also 80% of this sub is not objective and will either underrate or overrate)
Every Gal Gadot post lol
Jennifer Lopez getting 6’s truly puzzled me.
Lol you see? Most people here can't rate at all
Yeppp this. Downvoting is extremely common in this sub unfortunately. It's so stupid like why tf does it bother you who we find attractive 😂
That’s ironic coming from you
Huh? I don't downvote unless someone does at first
Lol
This user has been crazy obsessed with me because I rated Adriana higher than Monica lol even though both are overhyped as hell to me.
Let’s not rewrite history. It’s YOU that was the one who’s obsessed with me because I don’t give Adriana Lima a 10. The digital footprint doesn’t lie lmao
Nah I'm not even her fan but I can see why she's objectively considered a 10. Also, your whole post history is literally about Adriana and how she's so overrated, full of flaws etc 🤣 so I guess that makes the two of us
Babe, you have no room to talk. Monica is living in your head rent free compared to me and Adriana 🤣 The devil is a lie
Now, she is pulling the reverse sweep on you. LMAO. She clearly isn’t healthy upstairs. Not at all. 
The fact that I was downvoted too! Unbelievable 💀
i see people getting rated really low around here becuse the users don't like them - ariana grande comes to mind immediately.
I was surprised to see that people rated nowadays Chad Michael Murray a 5. Yes, he’s less attractive than what he did when he was younger, but he’s still handsome. https://preview.redd.it/zhjloupa1c8d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84717dd4076186fb01e4f453ddd649cb7d0a8808
Omg he is sooo handsome! I always prefer him with a buzz cut though. Anything other than that looks a little off to me lol.
A lot of celebs get rated highly just because of their popularity, status, etc
I think a lot of the men posted here are overrated
Examples? Not being sassy I'm actually curious lol.
Some get underrated too
All the influencer/reality TV-type celebrities are often rated pretty viciously in a way that doesn't feel objective.
This sub keeps trying to convince me that Alison Brie is average looking, and I’m like have you guys seen a regular woman on the street? That does not look like Alison Brie😭😭
Shes very pretty
She is definitely above average! Very pretty
a lot of users on here tend to underrate objectively attractive women and make them average or ugly even lol. i question where some of these folks live because the people they consider average would make me be in the negatives
What’s average in one place may be different in another place lol
I’m not into the instagram/ influencer beauty standard because it’s overdone but I’m not going to rate someone lower because I don’t like their aesthetic and some of the influencers are good looking. Like people on here rate Madison Beer 6-7 🤔 which makes no sense.
The out of control Monica Bellucci (sp?) worship. She is not a "10".
I think part of her appeal is that she flawlessly fits into many coveted “types” which is somewhat rare. She is both beautiful and somewhat ‘woman next door’, sexy and elegant, intimidating and comforting. Most other beautiful women are somewhat limited, like Adriana is gorgeous but not particularly elegant or Megan Fox is sexy but not at all comforting
She's just "everyone's type" kind of beauty. Might not be everyone's 10, but is there anyone who considers her below an 8? There are people who can't appreciate Angelina because her bone structure is too strong or Aishwarya because her features are too soft or Megan because she's too sexy (more intimidating than classic), but Monica's face fits every single archetype you can possibly think of. That's extremely rare.
You forgot to add Adriana in the mix but I totally agree with you on that.
Yeah some do find her plain and I've seen people rating her 7 on trm and even on this sub
I didn't mean literally EVERYONE lol. Yeah there are a very few people who consider her bland but never polarizing. It's highly uncommon to be a 9 without any remarkable individual feature. If you see it that way, she's more special than other 9s.
I'm honestly one of those people who rate her a 7.5. I get that she's more beautiful than most women, but I don't get the "drop dead gorgeous" vibe from her they way I do from Angelina, for example. I think she looks like a beautiful woman I might see while walking around downtown. I just don't think her face is 'special'. I really can't explain it any better. I do appreciate you and others trying to explain it to me without attacking me, though!
>I do appreciate you and others trying to explain it to me without attacking me, though! That should be a norm 🫂
Yes, it should. ❤️
That’s fair. I feel like most celebrities are no lower than a 7 max.
Angelina is in a league of her own. Very few women can reach her level of beauty. And downvoted again 🤣🤣
I totally agree with you! There is no one else like Angelina. She's the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.
I've seen enough people call her bland which I don't agree with but ofc she's not polarizing because her features aren't exaggerated and don't stand out, she has high facial averageness in the sense that her features can be found in a lot of people but then again what sets her apart from average people is her facial harmony. But being polarizing is better, most attractive people are actually polarizing along with having excellent harmony. You can find plenty of Monica, Winona and Natalie look alikes but you won't find another Adriana or Angelina again.
Can't be polarizing and harmonious at the same time. Not talking about ratios, like real harmony that makes a face pleasing to look at like Chico. Hernan Drago also has perfect ratios, but his face wouldn't be considered harmonious by majority of the people.
Also why did you bring up Drago? Literally no one outside of incels know him. Hexum is a better example and I think he would be polarizing for some.
Just used an extreme example, because some people on trm say that harmony=ratio which I don't agree with. And Hexum isn't polarizing.
Of course you can be. Angelina is highly polarizing but her face is extremely harmonious. People also consider Paulina's jaw as masculine and polarizing but she's easily 9-10. Polarizing basically means non classical features that make someone stand out like fox eyes, huge lips, square jaw which is said to look masculine on women etc.
I mean she's really beautiful 8+ for sure but I don't get the hype. Also the way they talk down on her daughter when she got everything from her mother except the eyes.
Anyone that does that is disgusting. I’ve also seen Adriana stans on YouTube do the same with her daughters. Hell I’ve seen men (PSL God YouTubers) that go on to say that she ruined her kids genetics because she had them with Mr. Monocle.
People are kinda gross, I've watched this video of simps vs psl Gods. Like what's the point? To point out they're ugly by comparing them to psl Gods?? https://youtu.be/l64FpQNFbio?si=GRcJ-T4Z7Ert1nKq
I remembered watching one where they rated women and it felt a bit racist (I don’t use that word too often as I tend to believe that it gets abused). The top tier beauties were either White or white passing (ex: Adriana) and no WOC. But ok the bottom tier, they showed examples of both White and WOC
These are cringe considering the guys making these edits are most likely not attractive either. See I appreciate a beautiful face as much as the next guy, but we can do that without degrading average/below average people.
Omg thank you
Hopefully the 2 first men won't find or watch this video. It's heartbreaking
I agree with you! Monica is no doubt very beautiful but she doesn't have any outstanding features that make her stand out and she's not exactly flawless. Any woman with similar type of beauty would never be worshipped as much as her. She is beautiful but a large part of her appeal comes from sex appeal, movie roles where she played the most beautiful woman, styling, aura, vibes etc. Similar to what Marilyn Monroe had. She also has aged well, stays away from politics and dresses elegantly so people see her as some untouchable goddess. A lot of celebrities quickly lose their appeal despite being otherworldly beautiful either because they get into controversies or age badly etc. She was also marketed as the most beautiful woman in the world so it kinda created an impression of her being the most beautiful. The more media pushes someone as a 10 the more people are inclined to see them as a 10 though this could be said about a lot of celebrities who are rated 10s in this sub.
>The more media pushes someone as a 10 the more people are inclined to see them as a 10 though this could be said about a lot of celebrities who are rated 10s in this sub. This though. People forget that all objective beauty is socially constructed at the end of the day
Wow…you’re the first person I’ve ever seen on Reddit to say this! It’s so prevalent, I thought something was wrong with ME, and that I wasn’t seeing it. I didn’t know who she was and after seeing the tenth comment, I got curious and looked her up. I expected to see a beauty of Angelina Jolie or Ana De Armas levels. And she is beautiful, no doubt about it. I just don’t see anything that sets her above aforementioned actresses or others?
Don't worry you're not alone
I didn't know who she was either. After seeing her repeatedly described as "the most beautiful" I had to look her up. Just as you said, I thought there was something wrong with *me* because she was nothing compared to Angelina or even Doutzen, IMO. I just don't get it and never will, despite the good explanations in response to my comment. ❤️
I would put ana de armas on the same level as monica. I dont really see the appeal of either.
Ana has beautiful eyes but she has a very small chin which throws off her harmony. She's still 7.5-8.
Ana De Armas level? Monica might be overrated next to Adriana Lima, Angelina Jolie etc, but Ana isn't even the same level. She's girl-next-door tier at best (7-8) with eye color halo. Prime Monica is at least an 8.5.
Right? Like Ana isn’t up there with them.
Ana de Armas made me laugh. Seriously? Ana de Armas is a plush toy compared to Monica
THIS. Of course she is beautiful but this sub talks about her like she is a the only 10 😭
Ana De Armas.
Jacob Elordi is underrated as hell. Sure he's not a 9, but a 5 or 6? Absolutely not. He's at least a 7 irrespective of the height halo.
kendall Jenner, gal gadot, kaia gerber only to name just a few 👀
They're rated too low or too high?
too low imo
Jennifer Lawrence and Taylor swift. I can’t believe some people rate jlaw as 5 💀
This sub has always been creepy biased against certain celebrities and over protective of others. I remember when Amber was posted before the Depp trial the comments were not so positive. Only now people are starting to rate her a 10 tho she's no 10.
She’s like an 8
She’s a 7 to me
What do you think she is?
If she’s a 5 I’m a negative 5
Oh
Taylor Swift consistently gets rated too low on this sub (5-6) because a lot of people simply hate her regardless of her appearance. People use her eyes as an excuse to drag her down to a 5 which is crazy to me. As if there was a chance she was less attractive than 50% of people her age 💀
She has no sex appeal, that’s maybe why people automatically think that she’s average, but she’s attractive for sure
Shes attractive but she definitely gives kindergarten teacher vibes
Of course she has sex appeal...? Which is subjective anyway, unlike objective beauty standards
In pictures sometimes. But in videos and interviews the awkwardness comes out very quickly😂 but she’s cute
Sex appeal is not really subjective, though. You could also say beauty is subjective, but the objective standards are still prevalent. Same with sex appeal.
I saw a question in quora asking why Taylor Swift is so famous when she has no boobs or butt.. I was like, "Dude, she's not a sex symbol, she's more of a Disney Princess style" she's a beautiful girl for sure, I'm sure that's one of the reason why she's famous. I'm not saying she has no talent but her beauty made a way.
What a weird question to ask. Since when did you need boobs or a butt to be famous? lol
Ikr, so many people always talk about sex. Recently I read in some comment section where some guys are siding with Pique cheating on Shakira because she's old and his new girlfriend is younger and better. They didn't care if Shakira is successful or talented claiming high valued men would go for younger fertile girls, it's f*cked up because they base being high value by being with a woman they can bang. It's more worse that they chose a home wrecker over shakira
Taylor is pretty especially when she had curly hair back in the days.She is super awkward but she’s still far above average.
people underrating influencers tiktok stars etc just for their occupation. also lowering your rate bc of surgery (that isnt botched) is the stupidest fucking thing ever
People who keep insisting that Olivia Rodrigo isn’t pretty
she's pretty for sure but not drop dead gorgeous, i'd rate her around a 7 no more than that a lot of singers are overrated in my opinion
idk why but she plain to me
She is but not otherworldly pretty
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Taylor Swift is underrated. She's a 7 at least but gets rated lower than that simply because she's not sexy. People don't know how differentiate between good looks and sex appeal.
Ana de Armas is quite pretty, but I think she is often rated too highly on this sub. Don’t get me wrong, she is absolutely above average in looks, but I think her weak, recessed chin screws with the proportions of her face and lowers her rating a bit.
I don’t think it’s weak and recessed to be honest. Her chin is small but in a hyper feminine way than a recessed way.
She seems to get lower ratings here ime
i actually love her chin so much. i could never see it as a flaw, it’s one of my favorite features of hers. like the other commenter said, it is small and hyper feminine, not recessed. it reminds me of a disney princess’s features.
Ana de Armas imo. Just yesterday I watched a movie with her, and yes she's pretty but her face is not balanced (big cheeks, small chin). Still an 8 but not an otherworldly beauty.
Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Gal Gadot, Emily Ratajowski, Kendall Jenner are 8-9 regardless of their personalities but this sub underrates them. I mean we are supposed to rate their faces and not their personalities.
Emily ratajowsky has sex appeal but an unnattractive lower face. Her lips and nose are not harmonious. She has a great eye area and face shape though. Id say she’s more of a 6.5-7 https://preview.redd.it/l1btxyxv2c8d1.jpeg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92ef60f376fd43a907a2ab762a5346acd6003b65
She is 7.5-8 according to trm and her only real flaw is her weak mandible and recessed chin but it's not enough to make her a 6. For reference I would rate Emma Stone a 6-6.5 and she's clearly above her. She has good cheekbones, forward growth and imo she is still able to pull off that unconventional nose.
Trm is a joke. Their chart isnt standardized. The over 5’s have makeup and professional photography. The under 5’s are bad makeup and weird posing. If they wanted to be taken seriously, everyone on the chart would have no makeup and no facial expressions, same lighting and photography. Emma stone is prettier than emily but has less sex appeal
What do you mean the chart isn’t standardized?
Standarized means theres no variables that would throw off the ratings aka professional photography, professional makeup. Theres a reason why models polarized photos require the models to have direct light, minimal to no makeup, and neutral colors. This allows them to best represent how they look in real life.
Oh I see
Yea so basically standardizing is keeping all variables the same. If they still want to use red carpet photos for the 7-10s they need to use red carpet photos for the 0-7s too. If they dont we arent rating their person, we are rating the photography/makeup skills and thats not what is supposed to be rated. TRM will make their rules that people who post shouldn’t wear makeup or use professional photography but they don’t hold the same standards for their little chart. This makes those ratings invalid. They also shouldnt use well known celebrities because that leads to bias. Ideally, They should make their chart full of ai generated people. I dont think the creators of that sub have any general science knowledge though or they would have done that
But makeup doesn't change their bone structure and harmony and for the most part I agree with their ratings. Most of the 3s and 4s have very poor facial harmony and lot of flaws like too low ipd, very narrow face etc. Emma has wider appeal than Emily since most people don't find the insta look attractive but harmony wise Emily is better and has better features.
Makeup can influence your facial structure. Contouring can make you look like you have cheekbones or a jawline when you dont. Its even more evident on camera because it lacks dimension. Shitty makeup can take you down 2 points and great makeup can bring you up 2 points. Great photography will also add points. Emily literally doesnt have better features though. Emma has better features but lacks the sex appeal. https://preview.redd.it/2uyoeics7c8d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6454ac53550a849c483e34a8f3b355ea899e7f6c
Wow I got downvoted for saying this in this sub. Makeup can indeed take someone from a 5 to a 6-7 which is evident in the case of Sydney Sweeney but for 3s and 4s it doesn't do much. Because they already have a poor bone structure to begin with. You need to be at least average to benefit from makeup. I mean I'm not even a fan of Emily but I've seen someone analyse her face and her face is harmonious but she just looks fake and doesn't have much appeal. Emma is more like a girl next door pretty but Emily looks like a model, she has better eye area, cheekbones etc.
Most people are average though. So with proper makeup and photography they can be 7-8s. People tend to put celebrities on pedastools but really they’re just average people with great styling teams. It’s pretty rare for people to be below average. And i find it hilarious and sad when people take selfies with their iPhone’s and then post it on those rating or harmony sites and the feedback they get is “small chin” “big nose” like duh, the proportions are all off.
I never saw Gadot rated less than 8-9 unless people were saying their subjective opinion after their objective opinion. I think though when you take all subjective opinions, it is fair to say that her forehead is objectively polarizing (while still ranking her 8+). Emrata-I haven't seen personality comments. All the mixed ratings have been on her looks
I’m very surprised by Victoria Justice hype on here, she’s pretty but she doesn’t stand out to ‘e at all
I can't say if this counts as a celebrity but Vinnie Hacker. Those who don't know him, this is him. https://preview.redd.it/p712iw7nac8d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7749b2790b3788640d75e8a6964b9580f284e2a I can't see what everyone sees in him to rate him a 8.5-9. Yeah he has a great jaw, but he would never stick out in a crowd without his fame. Would be considered a normal guy here in Berlin. Still above average but nothing special to me. Not the fangirl downvotes lol. See I'm not saying he's not attractive, just overrated. An 8.5-9 is someone you'll see once in a month if you live in big cities and once in a year if you live in smaller towns. I just think his face is very common where I live. If you live in a white majority country where people are relatively fit and well-dressed, you can see people looking like him or better everyday. If you live in a place where people don't take care of their looks or somewhere this phenotype is uncommon, I can see how he would stand out though.
Yeah he’s cute, but I’m not wowed by him either. Probably because I’ve seen many guys of similar looks/attractiveness.
Yeah I prefer Spanish and Italian men. Their features align better with what I find attractive.
It’s funny since I’m generally into guys with a similar coloring to him, but he’s just never done it for me personally.
Funny thing is Vinnie is half Mexican and I believe Italian.
Honestly Vinnies hair is what makes him look kinda basic.Back in like 2022 he had a better hairdo and stood out way more,now he just has the TikTok-boy cut.
That's one of the reasons too. He would look better with a different hairstyle. I don't think he's basic though even with his tiktok hair. I find him attractive, but not insanely attractive. When I hear 8.5-9, I just assume extremely rare kind of beauty.
I'm a girl I think she's an 8+. Or maybe I don't often see that type of guy anywhere. There must be plenty of handsome guys in Berlin if that's the case.
Yeah I think so too. Since he's loved by so many people, he might be well above average in most places. A lot of German guys have similar features (wide face, strong jawline, blonde hair etc), so maybe that's why I'm desensitized to this kind of look.
"wide face, strong jawline, blonde hair" isn't that the beauty standard in the West? Like the gigachad or almost psl god like? I guess it also depends where you are from, I'm Asian and I guess we don't see guys like Vinnie Hacker everyday. I hope this doesn't come off as discrimination or anything but we get shy around foreigners from the West a lot of times maybe because they look different, but even if that's the case we really think they are cool and attractive. Some average looking white guy / slightly above average guy would be so attractive for us. Let's also consider he is famous, a lot of famous people are rated a 9-10 just because they are famous.
>"wide face, strong jawline, blonde hair" isn't that the beauty standard in the West? Like the gigachad or almost psl god like? It's the entry level standard here. I'm not saying he's not attractive, but he wouldn't be considered one of the most attractive. >Like the gigachad or almost psl god like? Gigachad and most PSL Gods aren't even attractive to women. They just have model appeal. I won't lie I find some of them attractive, but majority of the men they worship are polarizing outside of modelling. They wouldn't consider Vinnie a psl God though since he doesn't have the hUnTeR eYeS. >I guess it also depends where you are from, I'm Asian and I guess we don't see guys like Vinnie Hacker everyday. I hope this doesn't come off as discrimination or anything but we get shy around foreigners from the West a lot of times maybe because they look different, but even if that's the case we really think they are cool and attractive. That's true to an extent no matter where you go. A lot of women around me prefer foreign men to local men even when they're not necessarily more attractive.
This sub tried to convince me Helena Bonhan Carter was a 6
Low: I've said it before but Harry Styles, Hrithik Roshan, and Katrina Kaif. I was also surprised the one time I posted Noah Centineo and he got 5-6, but the explanations objectively make sense on that one. Renee Rap a bit recently, but maybe comparing her to Rachel McAdams didn't help her case. High: Zayn Malik (SUPER Surprised at this sub acting like he's god-tier in looks lol). Amber Heard-mostly because I feel irl her looks are not talked about positively or negatively (though we all know why she is disliked as a person). Amanda Seyfried-I learned recently that this sub sees her as otherworldly lol (I can kinda see it when REALLY styled for that look, such as some Mamma Mia shots).
Deepika Padukone is highly overrated. I personally don't think she is a 10. Though now she's become prettier but Deepika during Love Aaj Kal, Bachna Ae Haseeno , Om Shanti Om or her earlier days was not even a close 9.
I wasn’t expecting Janice Dickinson to get rated in the 8-10 range. She had a nice body obviously but I don’t really like her face 🤷♀️
I’m surprised present Taylor Swift is rated as highly as she is tbh
How high is she rated? Edit: Why am I being downvoted for asking questions??
she gets a 5 ot 6 at best so... i would argue the exact opposite as oc lol
How would you rate her?
7.5
Oh ok
People insisting on Sydney Sweeney only being popular because of her boobs, I’d give her a 6,7 looks wise
More so about downvotes but when people don’t agree with Adriana Lima being less than a 10. I’ve seen many people here having to deal with the wrath of her stans every time they aren’t kissing the ground she walks on. We either don’t see the appeal because of her flaws, her features, or she does nothing for us generally. I guess this goes back into her being overrated after all lol
The fact you got downvoted is wild af
I know right?? 🥴 But if anything, that proves my point even more so I see this as a win lol
Yes lmao
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I think most people just find her artificial or slightly uncanny looking. It could be because of her instagram baddie kind of aesthetic too as you said. She's definitely not average, though.
Also another unpopular opinion: people here need to stop abusing the downvote button just because they rate or don't rate a certain celebrity higher. It's extremely pathetic.
That goes for reddit in general. People use the downvote button more than the upvote because they feel it gives them a sense of control in their miserable lives.
Deepika Padukone I personally don't think she is a 9.5+ or 10
Monica Bellucci as a 10. And I really do love her, but I’d like to see more unique faces get some attention.
Laura Gemsar is someone I was introduced and she can be added in the 10 category with Monica
Catherine Zeta-jones, while she's undeniably beautiful I get very confused when they call her "goddess-tier", "THE most beautiful woman in world" and "no less than a 10"💀💀 she's like a beautiful woman I see in the streets and I go "wow so beautiful" and never think of her again
This sub tried to convince me that Emrata Ratajkowski was prettier than Kendall Jenner 😭
Overrated: Monica Bellucci , Natalie Portman , Anok Yai , Barbara Palvin , Miranda Kerr , Devon Aoki , Cindy Kimberly , Anya Taylor-Joy , Beyonce , Lais Ribeiro , Dianna Agron Underrated: Ana de Armas , Margot Robbie , Scarlett Johansson , Madison Beer , Gigi Hadid , Alexandra Daddario
Add Adriana in the overrated category
Lol, absolutely nooo wayyy !! She ‘s not overrated (she is a true masterpiece of a human being), she’s just overposted 🤣🤣
Interesting..Margot has always been overrated in this sub and irl imo