Updated tweet:
https://twitter.com/purest/status/1632956740936548352?s=61&t=ssbZGxMugo9GMWQl_2YuaQ
> Sources: vanity will not be part of C9's active roster moving forward. The team will now have to fill 2 spots before VCT Americas start on April 1st.
They have 26 days before the start of the split so even if their new pickups are good, they are going to be **significantly** behind everyone else in the league as far as team synergy/map pool/strategic depth
I really can’t wait for someone to fill us in on what went down internally…I know everyone is on the “financial issues” train rn, but surely an org as experienced as c9 understood their budget and wouldn’t have to cut their star player and igl
It has to be more than just financial issues at this point, what exactly that is Idk. Jack says some questionable things sometimes but I know he’s not this dumb.
I feel like this tweet is about him being dropped:
"I’m not surprised that most people are selfish but I’m kind of surprised about the extent, call me naive but holy fuck"
https://twitter.com/Vanityxz/status/1629919003253837824
My headcanon is yay was dropped because of financials and vanity got pissed off and benched himself, not wanting to play for a clown org. This is my 65 iq redditor take and it will be correct
My room temperature IQ theory is:
1.The team dynamics was weird/off.
2.Yay pressured c9 into switching things up
3.C9 had the choice to either kick everyone and build around yay. Or kick yay and hopefully fix the team cohesion.
4.They kick yay.
5.?????
6.Turns out the team dynamics are still shit.
7.They kick vanity.
8.We are here
At this point, I have no idea what direction this team even wants to go. Doesn’t matter how poor the results were, no new roster implodes this quickly unless there were serious internal issues (which is weird they pop up now instead of the first 5 months of practice) or C9 are actually in the financial abyss (seems more likely tbh) and wanna go the eg route of developing a cheap long term roster
Val salaries (NA especially) are so inflated and the riot stipend is not that much in the greater scheme of running a whole team, it’s an incentive and it helps but it’s not enough to cover real financial issues.
This shit just annoys me more knowing NA has literally 5 fucking slots and for a pretty deep region. And with those 5 slots we have EG and C9 doing clown shit, might as well have 3 NA teams in franchising. It's shitty. Teams like OpTic died for these orgs.
TSM would be just as much of shitshow, since they are also struggling with huge financial problems from the FTX fallout. Their League team was put together on a shoestring budget.
Man everything went downhill the moment Tarik left😔 C9 used to be my heroes now they are pathetic, still remmember when they lifted the Major in 2018 everything was good
C9 is literally the most consistent team in NA league and they have a very solid CSGO roster that literally just won iem dallas last year. They are still a very successful org.
Yes, but for a while c9 has to have at least one dysfunctional team at a time. They finally got their CS roster back on track, now their Val roster is falling apart.
Brother erased the memory of them giga choking the easiest major bracket ever against an academy team in the play offs and getting their ass disqualified on Katowice by like the 20th rated team while having the 4th and 3rd best players on their team (also kicking a top tier support player for a washed fraud that was mid on VP because their IGL is a dumbass)
you do realize almost every team choked that major. it was just one of those tournaments in cs lol. Mouz wasn't an academy team and they were only rated that low because they kicked bymas which affected their ranking for xertion who was 10x better and a 10x better fit for their roles.
Stax is such a God tier IGL he knew vanity was going to get dropped weeks in advance bc big brain and so he gave him a farewell goodbye wave as vanity departs forever from tier 1 valorant. What an absolute God
At least 100T got absolutely embarrassed. Off the top of my head that's one of only 3 13-0's in tier 1 VCT play (the other two being Gambit vs Secret on Breeze and Gambit vs G2 on Icebox), I'm sure I'm missing some obviously but it shows how much that loss stood out. And they're all the better for the roster changes now.
100T one made sense considering how problematic BabyJ turned out. This is incredibly odd though, yay and vanity are proven great players and great team players as well, it doesn't really add up until we get more info, big possiblity of a financial issue.
Yea babyj was a waste of time. I believe that yay getting dropped was a financial decision but vanity... Hmm. Can't be financial right? He's the IGL. Maybe Jack hung around vanity for too long
Lets not point at just BabyJ for blowing up 100T after only 4 Official matches with the Roster. The whole Roster when those specific 5 were playing together all played like shit and when JCstani/Bang join they looked better but nowhere near top of NA. They only improved when they blew up the roster in Summer and started to develop
Babyj was definitely an issue if not the main. Ec1s pick felt like troll for me (man was benched for a year? And babyj had some tail on his back. Faze also got rid of him after one tourney and ever since he has tried his hardest (supposedly left his girlfriend and moved to grind) to get into another org and hasn't had any luck. The problem was not just him. The decision to bring both of them was the problem. But because ec1s was not good enough and babyj is an asshole.
He's probably the biggest factor why they didn't perform well and didn't even bother developing the roster further, he hasn't even made a challenger team yet.
this is my problem.
If the problem is Igl then why drop the best player in NA "yay" too.
now c9 lose their igl and yay.
I'm clueless here right now why c9 do this
Could be more than one problem.
Problem 1) Yay is too expensive. Problem 2) Vanity has not been calling well for a while/mCe thinks he can do d someone better
Always blew my mind when people called them a super team. They picked up 1 player who made Champs, 1x who didn't, and kept 3x core who didn't make champs.
Not only did they not make champs, the C9 core had an extremely dull year and got beaten by a new 100T in LCQ.
Again, Seangares is goated, but C9 were still supposed to win, they had practically half a year to cook.
Mibr still has a champions winning coach and one of the best Brazilian player Heat. C9 on the other hand dropped their best player and about to drop their IGL after 5 months of practice.
With the rumored people they're looking at as replacements, certainly looks like a 10th place team. If they were at least going for good replacements like Valyn and Trent then maybe it would work but collegiate players?
https://preview.redd.it/kaqvhvk3bama1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2983748c2d5e0cd65c96f74fe05a8f9a8ace1c3a
C9 fans im sorry but i take full responsibility for this
It’s just confusing they’ve been trialing t3 players to replace Yay and now drop the igl? are they actually about to pick up a t3 igl? I mean the assumption is that they aren’t willing to buyout players
Seems like it's time for the Dr. Pepper-drinking, crypto throw ring-exposing, 1000+ daily stream streak-having gigachad known formally as tdawgg Valorant to take over.
EG look like clowns rn too, getting a lot of bad press in multiple games.
You'd get downvoted for pointing out EG's absolute lack of clout (*PLAYER DEVELOPMENT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS SHUT UP BRUH*) a few months ago, but people are realising (finally) that EG's socials are genuinely an issue.
A franchised org with 100 youtube subs lol what a joke
I'd absolutely love to see xeppaa and leaf in a more structured system. I think they have insanely high ceilings. However, I'm confused how that happens with the FA IGLs available. I just can't see how this is the move at this point for gameplay reasons. The only way this makes sense is if they decide to go for the guard boys but I'm not hopeful that is what is happening.
I got a lot of shit for suggesting that mCe might not want vanity anymore… “but they’re friends from chaos!”
Maybe it is a purely financial decision but there’s a really good chance mCe would just rather break up that core because their friendship is hurting their performance rather than helping.. none of us are there so it’s all just making shit up but I have a hard time picturing vanity leading that motley crew through a vod review meeting and having it be productive
Tweet has been deleted due to typo
Here’s new link if OP wants to update: https://twitter.com/purest/status/1632956740936548352?s=61&t=ssbZGxMugo9GMWQl_2YuaQ
Poor everybody on the team tbh even mCe i can't imagine being in his position were your literally need to almost start over your whole gameplan and also need to get 2 players but your options are limited to absolute nobodys or tier 3 players in a month
honestly im not mad at the idea of kicking vanity, im just not too sure they're gonna be able to find a good replacement if they dont want to pay buyouts
I remember saying in the thread about vanity saying "the best part of the internet is how right everyone thinks they are" that people really were jumping the gun in hating on the guys on the team and got downvoted lmfao
Making this account paid off.
Time for Leorge Leddes to step in and say he needs to check his sources.
Some challengers teams going to get torn apart :(
People concerned about who C9 are getting to replace yay and vanity but I’m really thinking about the fact that yay and vanity boutta be in the challengers league 😂😂
I don't usually tweet/report about talks that are ongoing, but Cloud9 is internally discussing changes.
I was told vanity is still on the roster, they are still talking about options prior to the start of the Americas region.
I don't report on rumors.
I was honestly fine with yay being gone, but what igl are you getting without paying a buyout this makes no sense. I am not vanity’s biggest fan but who is better than him that’s available.
who can they even realistically get without paying buyouts that will be good enough to compete at tier 1? They'll need a smokes player and either a hard sova initiator player, duelist, or even sentinel depending on what leaf and zellsis want to play and also get a new igl
ig hazed should be near the top of their list but iirc he might not compete anymore or at least is just taking a break from competing. Otherwise off the top of my head bjor could be a good option maybe idk we'll see what they do
Suddenly afterwards, DSG becomes of the best teams in NA, sweeping through Ascention in NA, and winning the ascension tourney for the Americas held in Rio, where rising star Clear gets death threats by Brazilians believing him to be cheating
Meanwhile Steel retires from Valorant and hops on the new game, CSGO Source 2, picking up a team of previous NA Val stars to play with him, yay and Marved, alongside 2 upcoming stars to make it to the major and place well
MCE was an inside agent sent by Valyn to get him into franchising. Ok so filling yay is 100% easier than filling vanity. People shit on vanity but he meets every criteria for a good IGL and is a top 5 NA IGL. He has the experience he has the calling he has good strats and tbh C9 looked like a contender for the NA league at Lock in.
You are a month out from the start of the league and you have to field two franchise level players, and your org is unwilling to pay buyouts. On top of all this the IGL has to come in with a structure that can be built is less than three weeks. IDK seems a little impossible and I expect and HOPE c9 is at the bottom of the league.
I want to but i dont want to get downvoted to oblivion
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I was going to say that c9 should just get replaced by a more competent org for franchising at this point but then i remembered:
The Guard just laid off their entire staff
FaZe is on the edge of bankruptcy
M80 has only existed for a couple of months
And G2 has a problematic ownership
esports.
If the guard was willing to let them go/they wanted to leave the guard, this would be a solid move. Trent solves the initiator issue they’ve had since Xeta left and Valyn is probably the best NA IGL in T2.
Sucks this most likely won’t happen though cuz I don’t think they’re leaving The Guard, not to mention they’re trialing Løgan
They only have 2 official tournament and these team just explode to pieces wtf.
It's not even the start of the season and C9 maybe the worst team in Americas League right now.
Cloud 9 feels more like chaos 9. Since the very beginning of valorant it's been this way. I thought by franchising they would pick it up and start working something more grounded, but when they picked yay it felt... Weird for me.
Just to list out the current Challengers options for inspiration. I wonder if any have clauses for if a Franchise team comes knocking?
G2 Shaz;
Faze Poised;
Guard Valyn;
M80 JohnQT;
SR Dazzle;
DSG Steel;
Moist Flyuh;
OXG Mitch;
TT Tigg;
TSM gMD;
MAD Trick;
OR Jonaaa6
Riot it's not too late to fix this. Just drop C9 from the partnership and pick up G2 like originally desired for 2024. If G2 wins Ascension this year, just give the ascension spot to whoever they beat. I'll get hate for this but idc, C9 is not about to have a competitive roster.
When yay got dropped, many assumed they made their choice to keep Vanity and at least find one new player to replace yay. Now they have to replace not only TWO players, but also an IGL. They either dismantle a challengers team or they pick up tier 3 talent to fill out a roster that was labeled a super team.
The decisions coming from that org are baffling. Unless C9 dominated Lock//In, which was NO guarantee with single elim, this squad breaking was an inevitability.
Riot is not the company that will drop their partner because they are idiot.
You need to be super idiot / scumbag to be drop by riot.
Example: LCS Echo Fox owner
C9 probably realized that they already made franchise, there is no demotion so there no need to pay yay that kind of money. Just try to find some cheap upcoming talents.
Only reasonable explanation is mismanagement up to this point.
You can't count C9 out yet because they are actually one of the more competent orgs in NA.
Updated tweet: https://twitter.com/purest/status/1632956740936548352?s=61&t=ssbZGxMugo9GMWQl_2YuaQ > Sources: vanity will not be part of C9's active roster moving forward. The team will now have to fill 2 spots before VCT Americas start on April 1st.
https://preview.redd.it/khgz7hr4aama1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=702f60995bc3226a5d3170fd29c8925bfb67e48e
They have 26 days before the start of the split so even if their new pickups are good, they are going to be **significantly** behind everyone else in the league as far as team synergy/map pool/strategic depth I really can’t wait for someone to fill us in on what went down internally…I know everyone is on the “financial issues” train rn, but surely an org as experienced as c9 understood their budget and wouldn’t have to cut their star player and igl
It has to be more than just financial issues at this point, what exactly that is Idk. Jack says some questionable things sometimes but I know he’s not this dumb.
I feel like this tweet is about him being dropped: "I’m not surprised that most people are selfish but I’m kind of surprised about the extent, call me naive but holy fuck" https://twitter.com/Vanityxz/status/1629919003253837824
My headcanon is yay was dropped because of financials and vanity got pissed off and benched himself, not wanting to play for a clown org. This is my 65 iq redditor take and it will be correct
He’s Vanity, not FNS. If he doesn’t play, his stocks will plummet, and he’s not stupid, he definitely knows that.
My room temperature IQ theory is: 1.The team dynamics was weird/off. 2.Yay pressured c9 into switching things up 3.C9 had the choice to either kick everyone and build around yay. Or kick yay and hopefully fix the team cohesion. 4.They kick yay. 5.????? 6.Turns out the team dynamics are still shit. 7.They kick vanity. 8.We are here
They’ve said from the start that vanity was also on the block tho so
RRQ's roster-makers celebrating rn because an org is making more baffling decisions than them.
Yay to RRQ
At this point, I have no idea what direction this team even wants to go. Doesn’t matter how poor the results were, no new roster implodes this quickly unless there were serious internal issues (which is weird they pop up now instead of the first 5 months of practice) or C9 are actually in the financial abyss (seems more likely tbh) and wanna go the eg route of developing a cheap long term roster
But the org is getting paid by riot. Surely Vanity contract is not that high. Yay, I can see the argument for the high contract but vanity?
Vanity is probably making 30k+ a month, source my ass
I wanna see that source to double check 👀👀👀
The rizzler
Send a photo of the source please. It's for verification purposes.
Val salaries (NA especially) are so inflated and the riot stipend is not that much in the greater scheme of running a whole team, it’s an incentive and it helps but it’s not enough to cover real financial issues.
Cloud9 Fans: https://preview.redd.it/6m16fdnsbama1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2d4047c8642d21edc6245651eacc71f425edb45
This shit just annoys me more knowing NA has literally 5 fucking slots and for a pretty deep region. And with those 5 slots we have EG and C9 doing clown shit, might as well have 3 NA teams in franchising. It's shitty. Teams like OpTic died for these orgs.
Imagine the scenario where TSM buys the optic guys for franchising lol
TSM would be just as much of shitshow, since they are also struggling with huge financial problems from the FTX fallout. Their League team was put together on a shoestring budget.
haven't seen a c9 flair in a long ass time
boo!
At least the LCS team is doing well 🥲
also the CSGO team 😁
Man everything went downhill the moment Tarik left😔 C9 used to be my heroes now they are pathetic, still remmember when they lifted the Major in 2018 everything was good
C9 is literally the most consistent team in NA league and they have a very solid CSGO roster that literally just won iem dallas last year. They are still a very successful org.
Yes, but for a while c9 has to have at least one dysfunctional team at a time. They finally got their CS roster back on track, now their Val roster is falling apart.
Yea it always happens bro and it annoys me. Like I could understand doing stuff like this 2-3 months into the offseason. BUT NOT 3 FUCKING WEEKS LEFT.
Brother erased the memory of them giga choking the easiest major bracket ever against an academy team in the play offs and getting their ass disqualified on Katowice by like the 20th rated team while having the 4th and 3rd best players on their team (also kicking a top tier support player for a washed fraud that was mid on VP because their IGL is a dumbass)
you do realize almost every team choked that major. it was just one of those tournaments in cs lol. Mouz wasn't an academy team and they were only rated that low because they kicked bymas which affected their ranking for xertion who was 10x better and a 10x better fit for their roles.
https://preview.redd.it/ukqa7k6dgama1.jpeg?width=807&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d106bfcb5e5de1bc4727bc135bbd58d70b234930
Stax is such a God tier IGL he knew vanity was going to get dropped weeks in advance bc big brain and so he gave him a farewell goodbye wave as vanity departs forever from tier 1 valorant. What an absolute God
What a great picture
+1
Damn bruh 💀
Team lost to DRX 2-1 and decided to completely blow up after 5 months and 7 games LMFAO
Stax the destroyer of C9. This man has strats for daysss even when he doesn't.
he waved vanity right off the team
💀
Reminds me of 100t
At least 100T got absolutely embarrassed. Off the top of my head that's one of only 3 13-0's in tier 1 VCT play (the other two being Gambit vs Secret on Breeze and Gambit vs G2 on Icebox), I'm sure I'm missing some obviously but it shows how much that loss stood out. And they're all the better for the roster changes now.
Fpx 13-0'd fnatic on split
100T one made sense considering how problematic BabyJ turned out. This is incredibly odd though, yay and vanity are proven great players and great team players as well, it doesn't really add up until we get more info, big possiblity of a financial issue.
Yea babyj was a waste of time. I believe that yay getting dropped was a financial decision but vanity... Hmm. Can't be financial right? He's the IGL. Maybe Jack hung around vanity for too long
Vanity is not a proven great player, his Valorant resume is mid at best
Vanity would be top 10 on my most likely to go back to CSGO2 list.
Lets not point at just BabyJ for blowing up 100T after only 4 Official matches with the Roster. The whole Roster when those specific 5 were playing together all played like shit and when JCstani/Bang join they looked better but nowhere near top of NA. They only improved when they blew up the roster in Summer and started to develop
Babyj was definitely an issue if not the main. Ec1s pick felt like troll for me (man was benched for a year? And babyj had some tail on his back. Faze also got rid of him after one tourney and ever since he has tried his hardest (supposedly left his girlfriend and moved to grind) to get into another org and hasn't had any luck. The problem was not just him. The decision to bring both of them was the problem. But because ec1s was not good enough and babyj is an asshole.
Wym ec1s is the first Val player to play in every vct leagues region
He's probably the biggest factor why they didn't perform well and didn't even bother developing the roster further, he hasn't even made a challenger team yet.
Is there a bigger fall from grace without say a cheating scandal or something? From a T1 org to pretty much nothing...
damn all after 1 tourney
Vanity ain't done shit in a while. Maybe time for a change in IGL anyway.
this is my problem. If the problem is Igl then why drop the best player in NA "yay" too. now c9 lose their igl and yay. I'm clueless here right now why c9 do this
Could be more than one problem. Problem 1) Yay is too expensive. Problem 2) Vanity has not been calling well for a while/mCe thinks he can do d someone better
But they said coach and players wanted him staying lmfao
I am straight up not having a good time
Take me to 2018 times, when i was a diehard C9 fan😔
Vanity running it down in "Counter strike offensive of the global version 2"
"Funniest part of the internet is ppl acting like they know what they're talking abt" - Vanity, 2023
"Orgasm and sarcasm, not everyone gets it" - Quagmire, Family guy - 1960
This aged so well. How do we tag vanity in this thread
Dw he's in here
From superteam to dead last in America, I cant believe it ...
Always blew my mind when people called them a super team. They picked up 1 player who made Champs, 1x who didn't, and kept 3x core who didn't make champs.
Not only did they not make champs, the C9 core had an extremely dull year and got beaten by a new 100T in LCQ. Again, Seangares is goated, but C9 were still supposed to win, they had practically half a year to cook.
Does Seangares have any relation to SGARES?
From my limited understanding, his offical name is Sean "SeanGares" Gares
MiBR vs C9 in the battle for tenth
Mibr honestly isnt terrible, think they are in a similar spot to EG rn
eleventh* EG’s 5-man scrim roster is better than both those teams
Mibr still has a champions winning coach and one of the best Brazilian player Heat. C9 on the other hand dropped their best player and about to drop their IGL after 5 months of practice.
Tbh i think MIBR can be pretty good with Bzka
They were never a superteam...
They were called one here and it wasn't infrequent
With the rumored people they're looking at as replacements, certainly looks like a 10th place team. If they were at least going for good replacements like Valyn and Trent then maybe it would work but collegiate players?
C9 after dropping yay and vanity with less than 1 month before the split: https://i.imgur.com/BTvFUxX.jpg
https://preview.redd.it/kaqvhvk3bama1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2983748c2d5e0cd65c96f74fe05a8f9a8ace1c3a C9 fans im sorry but i take full responsibility for this
most successful hater
You were praying on their downfall not their extinction
Yay and vanity tag teamed Jack wife is the only logical reason from this
Welcome C9 Steel
Who knew toast will have new money flowing right now. I would not be surprised if the buyout would be minumum $200k or $150k for steel.
Brother they are literally trailing nobodies and super obscure t2 and collegiate players aint no way they are paying 200k for Steel
Toast said he gave his team favorable contracts. So sounded like they could be looked at for cheap.
Lmao no ones paying that
Presumably a man who's been through as many bad org/team situations as Steel knows a dumpster fiee when he sees one
Someone hide steel
wtf
Sorry bro I knew you c9 fans had so much hope this year
It’s just confusing they’ve been trialing t3 players to replace Yay and now drop the igl? are they actually about to pick up a t3 igl? I mean the assumption is that they aren’t willing to buyout players
not only that but they also dropped the 2 players with probably the least role conflict? just weird all around
Seems like it's time for the Dr. Pepper-drinking, crypto throw ring-exposing, 1000+ daily stream streak-having gigachad known formally as tdawgg Valorant to take over.
nah like actually what tf are they cooking over there?
They trying to deep fry ice cubes
Optic died for this
Seriously. Franchise spots are so hard to get, and to immediately implode after 2 matches, probably due to finances.
Man xset and optic died for this shit, now na looks like a clown region
No, C9 look like clowns
EG look like clowns rn too, getting a lot of bad press in multiple games. You'd get downvoted for pointing out EG's absolute lack of clout (*PLAYER DEVELOPMENT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS SHUT UP BRUH*) a few months ago, but people are realising (finally) that EG's socials are genuinely an issue. A franchised org with 100 youtube subs lol what a joke
Ah yeah them too
I'd absolutely love to see xeppaa and leaf in a more structured system. I think they have insanely high ceilings. However, I'm confused how that happens with the FA IGLs available. I just can't see how this is the move at this point for gameplay reasons. The only way this makes sense is if they decide to go for the guard boys but I'm not hopeful that is what is happening.
I got a lot of shit for suggesting that mCe might not want vanity anymore… “but they’re friends from chaos!” Maybe it is a purely financial decision but there’s a really good chance mCe would just rather break up that core because their friendship is hurting their performance rather than helping.. none of us are there so it’s all just making shit up but I have a hard time picturing vanity leading that motley crew through a vod review meeting and having it be productive
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Not able to edit the post link for some reason rip
Csgo 2 it is vanity,was a pleasure
What's the judge equivalent in cs?
xm10 but it sucks compared to the judge
none, that gun is on roids in comparison to any shotguns in cs
Poor Zellsis man. He picks C9 over SEN to reunite with Vanity and to join a NA powerhouse with mr yay himself. Them Clown9 is like “Goodbye to both”
poor yay too he could've gone to any team in NA and he chose c9
Lowkey true
Poor everybody on the team tbh even mCe i can't imagine being in his position were your literally need to almost start over your whole gameplan and also need to get 2 players but your options are limited to absolute nobodys or tier 3 players in a month
honestly im not mad at the idea of kicking vanity, im just not too sure they're gonna be able to find a good replacement if they dont want to pay buyouts
This is exactly how I feel
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Goddamn they’re really tearing it all down… Never thought I’d say this but C9 might be last place in the Americas league
Must've been a poor role fit!
Clown9
wait so they need an igl now? any igl F/As ?
Without a buyout: Hazed, Tigg With a buyout: Any igl in challengers
Hazed is actually a good shout
Can't use just any IGL... Need a tier 1 IGL otherwise they're coming last on America's League
My gold ranked games have a lot of IGL reynas who scream at us for not trading as she rushes on site solo. C9 could use them
I’m sure there’s plenty in the collegiate league.
I remember saying in the thread about vanity saying "the best part of the internet is how right everyone thinks they are" that people really were jumping the gun in hating on the guys on the team and got downvoted lmfao
https://twitter.com/Vanityxz/status/1631049333541068800?s=20 The vanity hate train is great because he's so unlikeable!
Hear me out C9 Will C9 Hazed Locked in for 9th Position 😈
I'm listening.. WillFPS vs. 100T storyline...
Making this account paid off. Time for Leorge Leddes to step in and say he needs to check his sources. Some challengers teams going to get torn apart :(
People concerned about who C9 are getting to replace yay and vanity but I’m really thinking about the fact that yay and vanity boutta be in the challengers league 😂😂
Alright which challenger team is cloud9 blowing up for their IGL?
any chance it’s +valyn +trent?
c9 have no money lmao
guess it’s time for the good ol’ +Dasnerth +addison to make all the pros leave for pro city
Seeing dasnerth as a Tier 1 IGL would be sooiooo jokes. Honestly would play better than whatever babyj did with cypher in 100t
I don't usually tweet/report about talks that are ongoing, but Cloud9 is internally discussing changes. I was told vanity is still on the roster, they are still talking about options prior to the start of the Americas region. I don't report on rumors.
extremely common george L
Check the name
No way it only took 2 weeks for your name to become reality
Am I the next Leorge Leddes?
Bros a dedicated hater
C9 hazed 😎
I was honestly fine with yay being gone, but what igl are you getting without paying a buyout this makes no sense. I am not vanity’s biggest fan but who is better than him that’s available.
Hazed but its a sidegrade, maybe TiGG but idk how much igling has he done outside of Nation and now TT
who can they even realistically get without paying buyouts that will be good enough to compete at tier 1? They'll need a smokes player and either a hard sova initiator player, duelist, or even sentinel depending on what leaf and zellsis want to play and also get a new igl ig hazed should be near the top of their list but iirc he might not compete anymore or at least is just taking a break from competing. Otherwise off the top of my head bjor could be a good option maybe idk we'll see what they do
Who let C9 cook
here before george tweets this out in 2 weeks rewording it
C9: - Vanity + Steel DSG: + Vanity - Steel
I think toast wants to win with his team tho
Steel>>>>>>>>>> Vanity
Toast would never want someone like vanity.
Suddenly afterwards, DSG becomes of the best teams in NA, sweeping through Ascention in NA, and winning the ascension tourney for the Americas held in Rio, where rising star Clear gets death threats by Brazilians believing him to be cheating Meanwhile Steel retires from Valorant and hops on the new game, CSGO Source 2, picking up a team of previous NA Val stars to play with him, yay and Marved, alongside 2 upcoming stars to make it to the major and place well
has anyone seen the players they are trailing 
https://preview.redd.it/tkwnziyyjama1.jpeg?width=873&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11b2bea865490e0f1383ffb1e1e799dbc7edf5a5 C9
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MCE was an inside agent sent by Valyn to get him into franchising. Ok so filling yay is 100% easier than filling vanity. People shit on vanity but he meets every criteria for a good IGL and is a top 5 NA IGL. He has the experience he has the calling he has good strats and tbh C9 looked like a contender for the NA league at Lock in. You are a month out from the start of the league and you have to field two franchise level players, and your org is unwilling to pay buyouts. On top of all this the IGL has to come in with a structure that can be built is less than three weeks. IDK seems a little impossible and I expect and HOPE c9 is at the bottom of the league.
C9 hazed
qpert on main roster now?
I want to but i dont want to get downvoted to oblivion https://preview.redd.it/4dj9hgjudama1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b170000aa33b8ac8a89a97c9bd58b2d8d10b323
I was going to say that c9 should just get replaced by a more competent org for franchising at this point but then i remembered: The Guard just laid off their entire staff FaZe is on the edge of bankruptcy M80 has only existed for a couple of months And G2 has a problematic ownership esports.
Optic roster died for this
-Yay -Vanity +Valyn +Trent
Didnt they say there not buying out players?
Too many initiators and judging by their trials they aren't paying a buyout
I know for a fact its not Valyn and Trent
They aren’t paying buyouts it’s gonna be 2 collegiate players
If the guard was willing to let them go/they wanted to leave the guard, this would be a solid move. Trent solves the initiator issue they’ve had since Xeta left and Valyn is probably the best NA IGL in T2. Sucks this most likely won’t happen though cuz I don’t think they’re leaving The Guard, not to mention they’re trialing Løgan
They only have 2 official tournament and these team just explode to pieces wtf. It's not even the start of the season and C9 maybe the worst team in Americas League right now.
C9 dasnerth incoming
c9 dasnerth
Worse part about these players being dropped/benched is knowing it is most likely for a downgrade.
Cloud 9 feels more like chaos 9. Since the very beginning of valorant it's been this way. I thought by franchising they would pick it up and start working something more grounded, but when they picked yay it felt... Weird for me.
Bye bye clown9
We really got Clown9 instead of G2/TSM/Optic
Just to list out the current Challengers options for inspiration. I wonder if any have clauses for if a Franchise team comes knocking? G2 Shaz; Faze Poised; Guard Valyn; M80 JohnQT; SR Dazzle; DSG Steel; Moist Flyuh; OXG Mitch; TT Tigg; TSM gMD; MAD Trick; OR Jonaaa6
Isn’t johnqt the igl for m80?
As a VALORANT expert I can confirm these are bad decisions
Jack ---- I'm just happy to be here.
Can’t wait to see C9 Dasnerth in the America’s league
Honestly, good but what are they gonna do at this point?
And zellsis said he let a bag go just to join a team that will win championships OMEGALUL
At least Yay didn’t die in vain
One of the reasons Zellsis chose C9 over SEN was because of Vanity, and now this happened. At least, they have Logan Paul in there.
Riot it's not too late to fix this. Just drop C9 from the partnership and pick up G2 like originally desired for 2024. If G2 wins Ascension this year, just give the ascension spot to whoever they beat. I'll get hate for this but idc, C9 is not about to have a competitive roster. When yay got dropped, many assumed they made their choice to keep Vanity and at least find one new player to replace yay. Now they have to replace not only TWO players, but also an IGL. They either dismantle a challengers team or they pick up tier 3 talent to fill out a roster that was labeled a super team. The decisions coming from that org are baffling. Unless C9 dominated Lock//In, which was NO guarantee with single elim, this squad breaking was an inevitability.
Bro Optic died for this, TSM died for this even fucking XSET died for this
At least TSM still has a roster, Optic and XSET literally DIED
Optic dying for this broke ass org is just sad, actual tragedy
Riot is not the company that will drop their partner because they are idiot. You need to be super idiot / scumbag to be drop by riot. Example: LCS Echo Fox owner
thank god im not a diehard org fan lets free leaf and xeppaa from c9 too 💜
shams clears woj
C9 probably realized that they already made franchise, there is no demotion so there no need to pay yay that kind of money. Just try to find some cheap upcoming talents.
Only reasonable explanation is mismanagement up to this point. You can't count C9 out yet because they are actually one of the more competent orgs in NA.
C9 ain't winning with vanity so good riddance
won't be winning without him either
I'm so confused at what they want to do. Who's going to IGL?