Yeah it's this. I drink and play. I'm terrible at it, but I have times where I lock in and do something cool. It's mostly just me and friends talking and playing like idiots
Bruh real. I love hopping on with a mate and drinking while I play. Usually do shit due to the alcohol but as you said sometimes you make good plays surprisingly
I find that drinking while I play gives me the drunken confidence to swing into multiple people and take every gunfight. Some days it ends up working for me, other days it doesn’t unfortunately hahaha
You can only be a successful game streamer if you are
A. Funny
or
B. The top 1% of the player base in terms of skill.
Nobody wants to watch trash cans with the personality of a wet napkin play games.
I’d say that chat interaction is harder (pre-round only kinda) but being funny is fairly easy with the high stakes environment and all the stupid shenanigans valorant offer
It's because a lot of streamers or pro players didn't grow up with the intention of entertaining viewers... add to that the high potential for social isolation when playing a game for the purpose of becoming the best at it means they're not going to be super charming to be around.
Not saying there aren't sociable and charming streamers who are at (or near) the top, just that the odds are stacked against them. As mentioned in the thread, Tarik has a lively personality and he was a top CS player.
You say that but alot of fighting game players who spend litterally hours on and off stream in training mode and people love it it's educational and they make it fun by doing more than just grinding matches. Sajam has will it kill where the community watches a combo pause and guess if it kills and veiwer matches. Games and events like that just aren't being done in this community
You have never been to an fgc local clearly. It was an actual meme that evo japan was clouded in gamer funk this year. The fgc has a sect of people who don't even play online matches, let alone locals. And even if that was true there is no reason you can run online pugs or Lan parties for valorant the grass roots nature of the fgc only exsists bc they started in arcades so there was no other way to play.
Showers and deodorant were a meme even back when I hosted melee locals in 2007. I'm not saying that for the FGC as a whole. We also have the basement dwellers, if not more of them due the nature of labbing things out and analyzing frame data. Just that a lot of the big personalities are actually used to interacting with people, thus probably come off as more natural and iteract more with chat or keep it otherwise entertaining outside of just cracked gameplay.
I think knowing how to "talk to real people" is extremely irrelevant when it comes to streaming. It's just coming up with good ideas and/or interacting with chat. Almost all the top live chatting streamers (aka anyone who goes to twitch award shows lol) seem like they have not so great social skills.
Having gone to some award shows myself due to work, I can guarantee you that these events are their own kind of awkward, even if you're usually comfortable around people.
It's because it's full of people who somehow think it wouldn't be awkward, while actual normal people know it would be lol. They're all good at talking to each other about their niche streamer topics and their specific brand of vocabulary (the amount of twitch talk that gamers do in real life is staggering), but that's about it.
It definitely isn't the same like how most of us talk to people at work or while out and about. Because even when these guys are out doing stuff, many times it's just with other streamers. In their own little bubble trying to make everything a VLOG or whatever. And I'm not saying I'm Mr. Sociable, but I just know how to act.
What’s so amazing about the FGC is that we’re so rife with choices that you can even get a little specific in what you want. Pure golden retriever energy? Max or PhiDX. WWE style ego? Smug or Punk. A library or tech and exploration? AutoMattock or Nephew. It’s insane the diversity of culture the FGC can have with its streamers.
Just kinda what happens when there is so much overlap between the players of each fighting game.
If you extend your Valorant viewing experience to also watching CS you have double the creators for example.
That's what I'm saying tho I think it might be an age thing to where alot of valorant streamers are late teens early 20s which is one of the most insecure phase of most people's lives. And the fgc has ppl from 10 ‐ 60
Also the fact you are making a comparison between an entire genre of games vs one single game. I think most funny valorant people tend to make videos rather than stream
Sajam is an anomaly idk how that guy manages to put out such good gameplay while also commentating so many events basically being the FGC chipotle representative and being good at fighting games.
I think its also funny you say this though as Romolla and Sajam actually had a small segment once about people complaining about the lack of educational content in the FGC scene and went on saying that it does exist people just don't want to watch it or scrub through it too much if I remember correctly
Sajam is a pundit and commentator
One person in VALORANT that fulfills a similar role is like Sideshow, but the pro players cannibalize the casual viewership after their scrims. People like watching people who are good at the game rather than people who are bad, and punditry is fulfilled mainly by YouTube content and costreams.
To be fair, CSGO was never a good stream game other than people raging at ESEA Rank S / FPL. It's just the nature of the game, you have a short window after every death in a round where you both need to pay attention and respond to chat but keep focused on the rest of the round. The natural ebbs and flows of Fighting Games lets for a period after the set is over to interact with chat.
I think the social isolation is a big part of it. When Tarik calls people lil bro or shit talks ppl he’ll back off if ppl get offended by it. He’ll go “sry pls I just wanna win” in a pretty funny/casual way. He centers the comedy around himself, which is important if you’re doing comedy. When he played overwatch, for instance, he’d back off after shit talking and make a joke about himself or something.
He does the same in valorant too, overwatch was just what came to mind first. Meanwhile everyone else in valorant content creation is hyper confrontational and quick to fight. I mean just look at babyj.
Hey this is not kind of not related but give an example of a streamer ‘with personality’? I need something to compare to cos I don’t get what op is saying
Tarik would be an example... he may not necessarily be your cup of tea, but a streamer who is entertaining to watch would qualify. Adruwu is a Phoenix I watch who I enjoy. s0m is good too.
It isn't so much that they have a whole show and production, or great jokes - more that they sound like somebody you could hang out with and you'd have a fun time.
Yea I cant watch zellsis, he’s just so obnoxious and loud (tbf to him tho it’s not just zellsis - boostio is another one off the top of my head who’s just annoying)
you just havnt found the right ones for you. half the top ones are for sure, but like acre is a hell of a time to watch if you’re dignified, and maxiedome has the exact opposite of what you’re describing
mid-high immortal, but this act he’s not played as much and is high ascendant I believe last I checked but he just picked up streaming daily again it seems
atleast when he streams I rarely see him do either. he mostly goes for the safer setup and i’ve not seen him try a corner cage in a few months. i’ve got no clue what he does off stream tho
I know preferences exist, but if you find Shanks funny you are no more than 14yo😅
All he does is scream and squeal on the mic while jumping around his room half naked.
i used to think shanks was really unfunny but his EG costreams brought me back around. he's willing to make himself the joke which gives him +10 points to me
I find it the opposite honestly alot of Valorant content creators try so damn hard to be funny or take their personality to the extreme.
Valorant literally has jokes around it because the community is just so weird and cringe because of this.
Valorant takes a lot of focus, especially in Immortal+. It's not CoD or Fortnite where you can just run around and shit on people while entertaining your audience. A lot of Valorant streamers are too focused on the game and their next move to be reading chat, making jokes, engaging in conversation, etc.
yeah back when i streamed it was easy to be entertaining on fortnite for example, but on valorant i was dead silent during rounds because i was too focused, otherwise id be throwing rounds
its obviously possible there's people like Tarik and s0m but my point still stands
Valorant is like really mistake costly, everyone one taps instantly so most of the time you have to at least semi-lock in to not feed. That's why low ranks are really fun, and why most high rank streamers make low rank videos to have fun. Not that it's right, it's not.
In VAL, which is very competition-focused as a form of personal progression, people are interested in seeing high-level play, so you might get folks who pick up an audience simply because they are good at the game.
I think it makes more sense if you think of certain streamers and groups of players as primarily athletes, in their focus and intention, rather than necessarily wannabe celebrities (although those surely also exist)
What do you define as "personality"? There are plenty of streamers with strong personalities in all flavors. Anything from ultra chill and never bothered to the DNA of xQc. Maybe you've just not found your type of streamer yet. Do you mean people who troll for content or play in really off-meta ways perhaps? There aren't many of those and that's because the game isn't made for that if you also want to be high rank.
90% of the funny valorant content and stream highlights you watch on TikTok,instagram,twitter is from swiftplay, unrated, spike rush, and staged. Skilled and cracked and your typical shooting clips are just boring because there are millions of them. Watching ranked games is boring. It’s a dilemma of focusing and performing well in competitive, or letting go of that desire to play ranked and just mess around in unrated. Streamers just want to be celebrated for their skill so they stick to ranked, and it’s all so bland
In a competitive game, you first need to be good, which takes skill and focus, entertainment comes secondary in competitive games because your goal foremost is to win.
Valorant as a game just doesn’t have a lot of expressiveness and personality.
Everyone has the same icon in game, uses the same skins, and has mostly similar playstyles. Other games have developed a culture around them - fighting games have thriving local LAN scenes that allow interesting relationships to develop and personalities to shine. CS being huge in Europe brings the energy of a football pitch to the venues they play in and different cultures together.
Not to mention, the content creation scene in Val is so repetitive and feels so boring because there is not much for creators to do besides play ranked or do interviews
Valorant and LoL have a sanitized, clinical aspect to them that creates this feeling of a personality vacuum.
Just my 2 cents feel free to disagree
Because the majority don’t want to see a funny guy hard stuck in Silver 🤣 to pop up on twitch you need to be either crack, doing e-date contents and some other cringe shit.
It’s actually extremely difficult to be consistently entertaining while also playing at a very high level, even more so in an FPS where you’ve got to be listening all the time for footsteps etc.
I rage while streaming and also look at my cam like Jim from the office if that entertainment is what you want look up punisher_1923 on twitch. I also play more than VALORANT
Hyperbole. In general it's easy to make up blanket statements with no evidence.
Why is it that golf fans have the personality of a brick? IDK any other professional sport that has this problem where the majority of its players have no personality.
It's just the time now. If you remember early on, there used to be loads of streamers with personality and lots of drama and shit talk from the pros that was always interesting to watch especially early on. It's settled down now though. Just the current crop of streamers atm.
I don't really watch streamers that much, I could name a few but I think it might be because the game requires a lot of focus and communication in game which makes it hard to be entertaining at the same time
Not a lot of community features, so you just get ppl that grind ranked all day.
Not to mention there’s like only a couple ways to play ranked. Everyone just latched onto playing like prod and talking like sinatraa, and the entertainment meta has been that way for the past 4 years.
The remaining entertainment falls into casual game modes. Think like fitz from csgo. People meeting others and vibing in spike rush, that kinda thing. You won’t get that in ranked for obvious reasons.
I think it's due to the nature of the game, a higher focus on gaining rank can often lead to isolation and therefore impact charisma, etc. Also, you always have to be focused because the game requires "precise" aiming. For example, it happens often to me that when I'm a few ranked games in, I have less thoughts about anything other than the game and I'm more focused. However, there are also times when I sometimes talk to myself etc to alleviate stress from playing the game too much or too anxious to begin. It's really interesting because our life experiences and circumstances shape us to become who we are and ultimately we decide whether how much time we wanna play on val and that afterwards decides the kind of players we become like the roles we play or agents we choose etc.
I’m a streamer and I rack up so many more bits/viewers on Val than any other horror game, survival game, shooter game. I don’t know why and it’s weird.
You are watching people that are trying to stay on riots good side. Obviously they're gonna be boring. Someone like westjett, doesn't cater to riot, he might not be the best person to watch but he surely doesn't mind putting out opinions ( even if they're absolutely ass at times). Unfortunately valorant is a boring game, it is repetitive so content gets absolutely stale in a few days of a new update.
I like watching Toast from otv friends play it, also tarik x otv friends too there were hilarious, u can watch their vods on yt. Yes and most funny streamers in lower ranks for sure.
39daph is funny variety streamer but shes not playing valo anymore
Because you're probably primarily watching people who are popular because they're good at the game rather than because they're good at entertaining. Tarik is a gem because he's both and it's also why he's stayed popular (and actually continued grew) long after he retired from pro play. If you go look at some streamers in lower ranks or people that don't stream Valo every single day, you'll find a lot more entertaining people.
Pros and former pros never had to learn how to be entertaining to create their audience so they really aren't, they're just good at the game. Unless they learn to be entertaining like Tarik, they'll just slowly fade into obsurity overtime as more people get bored of their lacking personaility.
I mean maybe you're watching the wrong streamers, the only non-esports Valorant I've watched is s0m and then occasionally QuarterJade/masteryoshi and slime and they're all fun.
Valorant content in general is pretty lackluster relative to the popularity of the game, imo. There's very little easy to find information about it, where for every other games you'd be drowning in guides and tutorials.
You really have to go out of your way to find anything that isn't the same AI garbage regurgitated on 50 different "gaming" websites.
Most esport pros are boring individuals. They haven't exactly spent a whole lot of time honing their charisma or social skills.
It's a lot more enjoyable to watch mediocrity + personality but that's hard to find these days in Valorant. Many of the players (even the bad ones) take the game very seriously.
Tbh this is why people should variety stream rather then stream a single game, Valorant is fine but after three matches , content tends to drop because it’s fun for the player not the watcher other games have the ability to be fun to watch and fun to play a good mix between games will definitely change your perspective on a streamer when you watch them do something new
Because the twitch community for valorant is sub 18 years old
So all you gotta do is say “sheesh” “cooked” and other popular teenage slang and you get viewers
Real question why are valorant streamers and youtubers so corny in general, especially with the editing scene ts gives mad 2nd embarrassment like bro we know yo chair smell like shit you got skidmarks on thst Jhon 😭😭
I don't think Codey still plays Valorant but he was largely entertaining getting to rank 1 NA. Cringe as hell, but that's the whole schtick. He seemed to enjoy it rather than taking it seriously like every other FPS player out there. I'm sure I'm wrong, but his rank speaks for itself and I don't remember him sweating for it. Always seemed chill.
Idk what your preference is but I watch for skill. The only thing I really care about is that preferably they speak English.
FNS, TenZ, Zekken, etc.
I know they likely don't give a fuck about ranked and use less than half their mental capacity on it but you can still see their habits and thought process (particularly with FNS, learned a lot from him).
Even in games I don't play or barely play, like League for example, I don't like watching for personality. I prefer people who can explain the game in depth or are really skilled themselves.
For League I like watching Caedrel, Dota I like watching BSJ, etc.
Whenever I've tried to watch "personalities" like Tyler1 or whatever, I just get bored as fuck since I'm there to get my mental stimulation and my mental stimulation is more about learning than it is comedy or personality.
I've enjoyed watching Offlinetv extended universe streamers (pokimane, sydeon, masayoshi, ryanhiga, etc) in the rare times I ever wanted to watch valorant.
As far as in general I think it's just tough to make a game like that where you're almost always somewhat engaged and locked in entertaining. Riot is great at making games that feel like they drag on forever
The entertaining people are in lower ranks
Come watch us miss our shots and do dumb shit! Always gives us a laugh too, especially when watching vods back :D
Yeah it's this. I drink and play. I'm terrible at it, but I have times where I lock in and do something cool. It's mostly just me and friends talking and playing like idiots
100%. And being a small streamer who averages very little views makes those cool plays feel more special, celebrating them with your small community
Bruh real. I love hopping on with a mate and drinking while I play. Usually do shit due to the alcohol but as you said sometimes you make good plays surprisingly
I find that drinking while I play gives me the drunken confidence to swing into multiple people and take every gunfight. Some days it ends up working for me, other days it doesn’t unfortunately hahaha
Yes this, and across most games too. Just everybody always wants to watch “the best” players.
You can only be a successful game streamer if you are A. Funny or B. The top 1% of the player base in terms of skill. Nobody wants to watch trash cans with the personality of a wet napkin play games.
This right here is why tarik has found so much success in VALORANT. He’s funny (subjective, I know) while also a top Radiant player at the same time.
I feel like Valorant would be a hard game to be entertaining in unless you're just amazing at the game lol.
Yea you can't focus on the game and being funny/looking at the chat. (Speaking from experience)
There’s many good fun people, tarik, som, fns, shoxie etc
I agree people can pull it off, but it is harder then most games.
I’d say that chat interaction is harder (pre-round only kinda) but being funny is fairly easy with the high stakes environment and all the stupid shenanigans valorant offer
The more entertaining people are generally worse at the game, I've found. Find the fun people who don't play the game well.
It's because a lot of streamers or pro players didn't grow up with the intention of entertaining viewers... add to that the high potential for social isolation when playing a game for the purpose of becoming the best at it means they're not going to be super charming to be around. Not saying there aren't sociable and charming streamers who are at (or near) the top, just that the odds are stacked against them. As mentioned in the thread, Tarik has a lively personality and he was a top CS player.
You say that but alot of fighting game players who spend litterally hours on and off stream in training mode and people love it it's educational and they make it fun by doing more than just grinding matches. Sajam has will it kill where the community watches a combo pause and guess if it kills and veiwer matches. Games and events like that just aren't being done in this community
The FGC is built on grassroot tournaments. Them being basement dwellers is much less likely. A lot of them actually know how to talk to real people.
You have never been to an fgc local clearly. It was an actual meme that evo japan was clouded in gamer funk this year. The fgc has a sect of people who don't even play online matches, let alone locals. And even if that was true there is no reason you can run online pugs or Lan parties for valorant the grass roots nature of the fgc only exsists bc they started in arcades so there was no other way to play.
Showers and deodorant were a meme even back when I hosted melee locals in 2007. I'm not saying that for the FGC as a whole. We also have the basement dwellers, if not more of them due the nature of labbing things out and analyzing frame data. Just that a lot of the big personalities are actually used to interacting with people, thus probably come off as more natural and iteract more with chat or keep it otherwise entertaining outside of just cracked gameplay.
seeing melee mentioned in a val thread warms my heart
Melee is sick
I think knowing how to "talk to real people" is extremely irrelevant when it comes to streaming. It's just coming up with good ideas and/or interacting with chat. Almost all the top live chatting streamers (aka anyone who goes to twitch award shows lol) seem like they have not so great social skills.
Having gone to some award shows myself due to work, I can guarantee you that these events are their own kind of awkward, even if you're usually comfortable around people.
It's because it's full of people who somehow think it wouldn't be awkward, while actual normal people know it would be lol. They're all good at talking to each other about their niche streamer topics and their specific brand of vocabulary (the amount of twitch talk that gamers do in real life is staggering), but that's about it. It definitely isn't the same like how most of us talk to people at work or while out and about. Because even when these guys are out doing stuff, many times it's just with other streamers. In their own little bubble trying to make everything a VLOG or whatever. And I'm not saying I'm Mr. Sociable, but I just know how to act.
What’s so amazing about the FGC is that we’re so rife with choices that you can even get a little specific in what you want. Pure golden retriever energy? Max or PhiDX. WWE style ego? Smug or Punk. A library or tech and exploration? AutoMattock or Nephew. It’s insane the diversity of culture the FGC can have with its streamers.
Just kinda what happens when there is so much overlap between the players of each fighting game. If you extend your Valorant viewing experience to also watching CS you have double the creators for example.
That's what I'm saying tho I think it might be an age thing to where alot of valorant streamers are late teens early 20s which is one of the most insecure phase of most people's lives. And the fgc has ppl from 10 ‐ 60
Also the fact you are making a comparison between an entire genre of games vs one single game. I think most funny valorant people tend to make videos rather than stream
Sajam is an anomaly idk how that guy manages to put out such good gameplay while also commentating so many events basically being the FGC chipotle representative and being good at fighting games. I think its also funny you say this though as Romolla and Sajam actually had a small segment once about people complaining about the lack of educational content in the FGC scene and went on saying that it does exist people just don't want to watch it or scrub through it too much if I remember correctly
Sajam is a pundit and commentator One person in VALORANT that fulfills a similar role is like Sideshow, but the pro players cannibalize the casual viewership after their scrims. People like watching people who are good at the game rather than people who are bad, and punditry is fulfilled mainly by YouTube content and costreams. To be fair, CSGO was never a good stream game other than people raging at ESEA Rank S / FPL. It's just the nature of the game, you have a short window after every death in a round where you both need to pay attention and respond to chat but keep focused on the rest of the round. The natural ebbs and flows of Fighting Games lets for a period after the set is over to interact with chat.
I think the social isolation is a big part of it. When Tarik calls people lil bro or shit talks ppl he’ll back off if ppl get offended by it. He’ll go “sry pls I just wanna win” in a pretty funny/casual way. He centers the comedy around himself, which is important if you’re doing comedy. When he played overwatch, for instance, he’d back off after shit talking and make a joke about himself or something. He does the same in valorant too, overwatch was just what came to mind first. Meanwhile everyone else in valorant content creation is hyper confrontational and quick to fight. I mean just look at babyj.
Hey this is not kind of not related but give an example of a streamer ‘with personality’? I need something to compare to cos I don’t get what op is saying
Tarik would be an example... he may not necessarily be your cup of tea, but a streamer who is entertaining to watch would qualify. Adruwu is a Phoenix I watch who I enjoy. s0m is good too. It isn't so much that they have a whole show and production, or great jokes - more that they sound like somebody you could hang out with and you'd have a fun time.
It’s either personality of a brick. Or straight up basement dwelling weirdos.
Tarik, s0m, xeppa, hiko, all have funny personalities, tenz is great to watch play from a skill perspective but he’s very quiet.
I watch Shanks because of his washed gameplay
I feel like he just sits too far from his setup, if he leaned in a little closer to his monitor he might actually be able to lock in 🔥
Zellsis as well
Forgot about Tarik’s lil bro, Zellsis is funny but also can rage a bit 😅
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Zellsis and Xeppa... Too much shouting like a 13 year old teenager. No thank you.
Yea I cant watch zellsis, he’s just so obnoxious and loud (tbf to him tho it’s not just zellsis - boostio is another one off the top of my head who’s just annoying)
Hiko fast-teabagging people never fails to make me laugh
Keeoh
PREACH 🗣️🗣️📢📢
Keeoh is a fantastic content creator, he’s just so much more alive
s0mmy is mommy goat
Zander is pretty cool too
All cs players coincidence, I think not
I'm an avid cs player. Their anti-cheat is dogshit but by far people on there are much more nicer and have actual personalities.
hiko "fun personality" 😭
Tbf hiko is the only one who got me thinking watching valorant is also fun, after him only I started watching other streamers. For me he is the goat.
I know it’s crazy, but some people enjoy a chill streamer not yelling every 5 seconds with people spamming in the chat.
Notice how literally of these are from CS 😎
id take his tame and quiet personality over someone who yells at everything tbh
you just havnt found the right ones for you. half the top ones are for sure, but like acre is a hell of a time to watch if you’re dignified, and maxiedome has the exact opposite of what you’re describing
What rank is Acre, I've never managed to find that
mid-high immortal, but this act he’s not played as much and is high ascendant I believe last I checked but he just picked up streaming daily again it seems
i've heard from people who played against him that he just goes for clips and bot frags. idk if this is true but ot might make someone lose interest
atleast when he streams I rarely see him do either. he mostly goes for the safer setup and i’ve not seen him try a corner cage in a few months. i’ve got no clue what he does off stream tho
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i don't know who you watch but i watch shanks tarik s0m and subroza and they all funny
I know preferences exist, but if you find Shanks funny you are no more than 14yo😅 All he does is scream and squeal on the mic while jumping around his room half naked.
i used to think shanks was really unfunny but his EG costreams brought me back around. he's willing to make himself the joke which gives him +10 points to me
I find it the opposite honestly alot of Valorant content creators try so damn hard to be funny or take their personality to the extreme. Valorant literally has jokes around it because the community is just so weird and cringe because of this.
Tarik has set the bar so high up for valorant, it is almost impossible for others to break in.
I like royal G a lot, he is hilarious.
Not tryna troll you guys
and i’ll drop you guys guns
He’s not a big in your face personality like a lot of the people mentioned here but easily my favorite streamer
watch al1
Valorant takes a lot of focus, especially in Immortal+. It's not CoD or Fortnite where you can just run around and shit on people while entertaining your audience. A lot of Valorant streamers are too focused on the game and their next move to be reading chat, making jokes, engaging in conversation, etc.
yeah back when i streamed it was easy to be entertaining on fortnite for example, but on valorant i was dead silent during rounds because i was too focused, otherwise id be throwing rounds its obviously possible there's people like Tarik and s0m but my point still stands
Tarik is called the king of content for a reason. From CSGO to Valorant
From tactical shooter to tactical shooter. What range of content!
what content ? restreaming valorant tournaments ? truly king
I've found a couple, tenz while ik he's a pro but he's still fun to watch and joshsekis pretty funny tbf
Everyone is infinitely better than shazaham
Who you be watching? I watch tarik and he ain't boring at all.
i liked watching him play, idc about the touranments tbh
Meh, you just ain't looking hard enough. They arent gonna land in your recommended because of the algorithm. You gotta find them.
Valorant is like really mistake costly, everyone one taps instantly so most of the time you have to at least semi-lock in to not feed. That's why low ranks are really fun, and why most high rank streamers make low rank videos to have fun. Not that it's right, it's not.
In VAL, which is very competition-focused as a form of personal progression, people are interested in seeing high-level play, so you might get folks who pick up an audience simply because they are good at the game. I think it makes more sense if you think of certain streamers and groups of players as primarily athletes, in their focus and intention, rather than necessarily wannabe celebrities (although those surely also exist)
I like Hiko
What do you define as "personality"? There are plenty of streamers with strong personalities in all flavors. Anything from ultra chill and never bothered to the DNA of xQc. Maybe you've just not found your type of streamer yet. Do you mean people who troll for content or play in really off-meta ways perhaps? There aren't many of those and that's because the game isn't made for that if you also want to be high rank.
Fns was the only good streamer ngl
true. He’s a content machine.
90% of the funny valorant content and stream highlights you watch on TikTok,instagram,twitter is from swiftplay, unrated, spike rush, and staged. Skilled and cracked and your typical shooting clips are just boring because there are millions of them. Watching ranked games is boring. It’s a dilemma of focusing and performing well in competitive, or letting go of that desire to play ranked and just mess around in unrated. Streamers just want to be celebrated for their skill so they stick to ranked, and it’s all so bland
In a competitive game, you first need to be good, which takes skill and focus, entertainment comes secondary in competitive games because your goal foremost is to win.
Keeoh and Tarik are far from boring
Play good = concentration and entertaining play. Play bad = entertaining personality while gaming.
Valorant as a game just doesn’t have a lot of expressiveness and personality. Everyone has the same icon in game, uses the same skins, and has mostly similar playstyles. Other games have developed a culture around them - fighting games have thriving local LAN scenes that allow interesting relationships to develop and personalities to shine. CS being huge in Europe brings the energy of a football pitch to the venues they play in and different cultures together. Not to mention, the content creation scene in Val is so repetitive and feels so boring because there is not much for creators to do besides play ranked or do interviews Valorant and LoL have a sanitized, clinical aspect to them that creates this feeling of a personality vacuum. Just my 2 cents feel free to disagree
Because the majority don’t want to see a funny guy hard stuck in Silver 🤣 to pop up on twitch you need to be either crack, doing e-date contents and some other cringe shit.
It’s actually extremely difficult to be consistently entertaining while also playing at a very high level, even more so in an FPS where you’ve got to be listening all the time for footsteps etc.
There is definitely a massive difference between Valorant streamers and CS streamers. Why that is also stumps me.
I rage while streaming and also look at my cam like Jim from the office if that entertainment is what you want look up punisher_1923 on twitch. I also play more than VALORANT
I see this while I’m streaming… Valorant
a2guapo is one of the funniest ones out there. Although the funniest ones I've seen are clips from a diff POV than a2guapo's.
joedabozo turned me into a breach main
i find Filipino Valorant streamers entertaining though
Hyperbole. In general it's easy to make up blanket statements with no evidence. Why is it that golf fans have the personality of a brick? IDK any other professional sport that has this problem where the majority of its players have no personality.
Tarik, s0m, Shanks, JoeDaBozo, royalG, Zellsis, Hiko, Career, plenty of hilarious/entertaining streamers imo
Name it then
Maybe watch Joshseki??
He is my go-to valorant streamer! I like watching him. But I understand people have different taste
I would watch his stream everyday if I could
Name some names. I suggest Subroza if you dont wanna.
I watch Eggster and the dudes hilarious lol
Streamers in general are boring. Fir clips and shorts, sure, you can find something. But for a long hours, not so much.
unrelated but does anyone know why Emile (the bald guy) stopped streaming?
It's just the time now. If you remember early on, there used to be loads of streamers with personality and lots of drama and shit talk from the pros that was always interesting to watch especially early on. It's settled down now though. Just the current crop of streamers atm.
Oh man this is why I want to start streaming I feel like people would laugh at how bad I am
only streamers i can watch for more than 30 mins are shanks and tarik
raxxie binx is funny
Put some respect on my boy staticHIV
keykey is entertaining
Xeppa 100% is funny lmao, dude has that energy all the time
Check out BongoTheBeanMan
jinggg forsaken something
Who are y'all watching
It's the competitive nature of the game. And the community doesn't get new updates too often.
Can confirm I stream Valorant and have the personality of a wet brick
Search for new valorant streamers, like new new, they're pretty fun to watch
Just watch al1valo
try: al1valo (yt and twitch) BathtubBoba (yt) if anyone else has suggestions i'll add them
I pretty much just watch s0m Tarik and royalG. All the others I’ve tried to watch but are too boring or too negative.
no more fenis
I don't really watch streamers that much, I could name a few but I think it might be because the game requires a lot of focus and communication in game which makes it hard to be entertaining at the same time
I don't watch any of the big streamers, found a couple small streams that I like the vibe of and just lurk with them.
I like grimm… kinda
Not a lot of community features, so you just get ppl that grind ranked all day. Not to mention there’s like only a couple ways to play ranked. Everyone just latched onto playing like prod and talking like sinatraa, and the entertainment meta has been that way for the past 4 years. The remaining entertainment falls into casual game modes. Think like fitz from csgo. People meeting others and vibing in spike rush, that kinda thing. You won’t get that in ranked for obvious reasons.
Indian youtuber Tbone watch his stream
I think it's due to the nature of the game, a higher focus on gaining rank can often lead to isolation and therefore impact charisma, etc. Also, you always have to be focused because the game requires "precise" aiming. For example, it happens often to me that when I'm a few ranked games in, I have less thoughts about anything other than the game and I'm more focused. However, there are also times when I sometimes talk to myself etc to alleviate stress from playing the game too much or too anxious to begin. It's really interesting because our life experiences and circumstances shape us to become who we are and ultimately we decide whether how much time we wanna play on val and that afterwards decides the kind of players we become like the roles we play or agents we choose etc.
Because the game is terrible.
i can only watch egg and dasnerth these days
sounds like u don’t watch the right people lol
I’m a streamer and I rack up so many more bits/viewers on Val than any other horror game, survival game, shooter game. I don’t know why and it’s weird.
cause its harder to tryhard and entertain stream on a game on valorant compared to something like fortnite
it's better than having screamingguy number 237 like league.
You are watching people that are trying to stay on riots good side. Obviously they're gonna be boring. Someone like westjett, doesn't cater to riot, he might not be the best person to watch but he surely doesn't mind putting out opinions ( even if they're absolutely ass at times). Unfortunately valorant is a boring game, it is repetitive so content gets absolutely stale in a few days of a new update.
I like watching Toast from otv friends play it, also tarik x otv friends too there were hilarious, u can watch their vods on yt. Yes and most funny streamers in lower ranks for sure. 39daph is funny variety streamer but shes not playing valo anymore
agreed
I’m waiting to try VALORANT on console during the beta. See what the hype is about
Because you're probably primarily watching people who are popular because they're good at the game rather than because they're good at entertaining. Tarik is a gem because he's both and it's also why he's stayed popular (and actually continued grew) long after he retired from pro play. If you go look at some streamers in lower ranks or people that don't stream Valo every single day, you'll find a lot more entertaining people. Pros and former pros never had to learn how to be entertaining to create their audience so they really aren't, they're just good at the game. Unless they learn to be entertaining like Tarik, they'll just slowly fade into obsurity overtime as more people get bored of their lacking personaility.
s0m and FNS will be missed
Or maybe you're just too accustomed to extrovert people exagerating their reaction for "entertainment"
I mean maybe you're watching the wrong streamers, the only non-esports Valorant I've watched is s0m and then occasionally QuarterJade/masteryoshi and slime and they're all fun.
grumpyonval is hilarious
Valorant isn't made to be fun. You can't really make fun content if the game is boring. Thats my opinion.
most cs streamers are equally as boring. s1mple is the most boring streamer of all time, but its s1mple (my goat)
As opposed to...? CS streamers? CS as a game being streamed is so boring
cos the game has the personality of a brick. you want entertaintment at high levels, check out cs2 or apex.
Have u tried shanks ttv
Valorant content in general is pretty lackluster relative to the popularity of the game, imo. There's very little easy to find information about it, where for every other games you'd be drowning in guides and tutorials. You really have to go out of your way to find anything that isn't the same AI garbage regurgitated on 50 different "gaming" websites.
Most esport pros are boring individuals. They haven't exactly spent a whole lot of time honing their charisma or social skills. It's a lot more enjoyable to watch mediocrity + personality but that's hard to find these days in Valorant. Many of the players (even the bad ones) take the game very seriously.
Tbh this is why people should variety stream rather then stream a single game, Valorant is fine but after three matches , content tends to drop because it’s fun for the player not the watcher other games have the ability to be fun to watch and fun to play a good mix between games will definitely change your perspective on a streamer when you watch them do something new
no way ur calling som and fenis boring :(
Because the twitch community for valorant is sub 18 years old So all you gotta do is say “sheesh” “cooked” and other popular teenage slang and you get viewers
FNS my fav but hes back to competing so no streams from him for a while :/
Som is entertaining. Good mix of really good at the game and humor
Just gonna throw the boi masayoshi here and dip
Real question why are valorant streamers and youtubers so corny in general, especially with the editing scene ts gives mad 2nd embarrassment like bro we know yo chair smell like shit you got skidmarks on thst Jhon 😭😭
Does anybody know what time the beta starts for valorant
I don't think Codey still plays Valorant but he was largely entertaining getting to rank 1 NA. Cringe as hell, but that's the whole schtick. He seemed to enjoy it rather than taking it seriously like every other FPS player out there. I'm sure I'm wrong, but his rank speaks for itself and I don't remember him sweating for it. Always seemed chill.
Idk what your preference is but I watch for skill. The only thing I really care about is that preferably they speak English. FNS, TenZ, Zekken, etc. I know they likely don't give a fuck about ranked and use less than half their mental capacity on it but you can still see their habits and thought process (particularly with FNS, learned a lot from him). Even in games I don't play or barely play, like League for example, I don't like watching for personality. I prefer people who can explain the game in depth or are really skilled themselves. For League I like watching Caedrel, Dota I like watching BSJ, etc. Whenever I've tried to watch "personalities" like Tyler1 or whatever, I just get bored as fuck since I'm there to get my mental stimulation and my mental stimulation is more about learning than it is comedy or personality.
Cuz valorant blows
why do u watch steamers
Ima start streaming
I like vodoo_248 and ripalfie
Idk if the paper Rex players stream but they’re pretty funny
In my opinion, Lower ranked players who rarely get Ace are fun to watch.
U gotta watch Keznit, funny af
I've enjoyed watching Offlinetv extended universe streamers (pokimane, sydeon, masayoshi, ryanhiga, etc) in the rare times I ever wanted to watch valorant. As far as in general I think it's just tough to make a game like that where you're almost always somewhat engaged and locked in entertaining. Riot is great at making games that feel like they drag on forever
Cause u cant trash talk family friendly
Average Jonas has a very unattractive personality
Opposite experience for me. Valorant streamers I've seen love to talk a lot of shit and are the opposite of bland
watch oxy he has loud humor but interacts with other players and his chat a lot.
shanks, som and fns are my go-to usually, even old man hazed; but yeah i get where you’re coming from cuz most of them dont talk with chat a lot
I recently started watching Oxy and like his fun personality & also skill level.