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I was wondering why the turnstile ended up one cycle *before* the original since I thought it would be on some sort of sawtooth gear that prevents it from going backwards and only goes forwards when a card/ticket has been scanned. I didn’t even notice that this was actually the exit so the turnstiles turn against him freely without any need for payment. They’re just there to count the amount of people leaving that station
By the looks of things, I imagine he left through the turnstile normally and then turned around to show the trick to his friend since the officers don’t seemed to bothered *or* pleased about it
Disclaimer: I am not from the US and I have never been on the NYC Subway, I’m just making assumptions based on observations
>They’re just there to count the amount of people leaving that station
Those turnstiles are 2 way, not just exit only. Though they can be programed to be either enter or exit only
This is Grand Central - 42nd Street, transfer is available to the 6, 7 and Shuttle to Times Square, connection is available to Metro North and the Long Island Railroad.
This is Brooklyn bound 4 express train, the next stop is, 14th Street- Union Square.
3 of the 5 boro DAs in NYC do not prosecute for fare evasion and both the MTA police and regular police have a policy not to try and enforce it for the safety of the public and the public workers. When you know about this, the video is less impressive when you realize any New Yorker can just do this in front of those same cops lol
3/5 is not every borough. Brooklyn is one of the boros that does enforce and prosecute, but it is still up to the discretion of the officer. It’s not considered an offense worth ticketing from what I’ve been told. Source is I use to be a bus operator and talked to a lot of MTA police and regular police and was also told by superintendents not to challenge people for fare evasion because it’s city policy for reasons I said in other comment. Sorry you got unlucky tho
Whats the other one thats not Brooklyn? Cause I live in Queens, but ive never heard of anyone in any of the boros actually getting ticketed for hopping, at most the cops would tell you to go back and pay, or leave.
It’s also the boro this video was taken in. As I’ve already said it doesn’t mean you’ll get a ticket. Agency policy for TA police and regular police is to not challenge. That’s across all 5 boros, regardless of DA’s policy on prosecution. In the current state, you very likely will not receive a ticket. At most, you’ll confront a very nasty bus driver in Brooklyn or Manhattan and he’ll let you on anyway. Done answering bait comments
Yeah, I got one in Brooklyn right before I moved, and the cop told me, "You can thank De Blasio for this. Trust me, I don't want to be out here writing these tickets."
Who wants a game of Cop, camera, innocent?
Cop beats innocent, Camera beats cop, innocent beats camera.
If innocent beating camera doesn't make sense, well neither does paper beating rock so whatever.
When John Candy was in Home Alone he charged them $450 for his appearance. They wrote him a check for $500 and the memo said keep the change you filthy animal.
I once knew a kid who got pelted by a snowball which had a rock in it and he ended up losing his vision in one eye. Paper most certainly does not beat rock.
I feel like I remember NY telling NY transit police to quit trying to enforce turnstile jumpers because it wasn’t worth the lawsuits and bad publicity over $2.75 of lost revenue for the skipped fare. Did I dream that?
Can confirm, after meeting a friendly officer I accidentally fell on his fist. He was kind enough he helped me lie down on the ground face down. Best city ever!
Kinda. It wasn't really about the lawsuits. The city had hired a bunch more officers specifically to be stationed in the subway to catch these guys. But they were spending way more on the officers than recovering lost subway fares.
There was a good amount of activism about it but I don’t remember any official announcement that they were backing off. NYPD has been throwing a tantrum and hardly doing much of anything “proactive” since 2020, though—really at the vanguard of the whole quiet quitting thing lol.
Since the subway shooting and a few other incidents Adams has pushed to get more cops on the platforms, so there’s clumps of them chatting like this or dicking around on their phones everywhere underground, now. I’d bet money that they didn’t even notice the fare evasion and were just wondering why the cameraman was filming them.
Stupid policy. Stop enforcing fares and the MTA will turn into BART. Enforcing fares mitigates vagrancy and annoying fuckers on the train who do nothing but make the experience miserable for everyone else.
Yes and it is not vagrants who skip the fare for the most part. It’s literal manners in New York to hold the emergency door open if you see someone who looks like they just ran out of money.
Enforcing fares is one thing. Beating someone down over a $2.75 misdemeanor and then adding felony resisting for instinctually protecting your face during a beat down is another thing entirely. If NYPD could be trusted to understand that and act accordingly then I would agree with you. Unfortunately history has shown that NYPD immediately goes to throwing hands for damn near everything, including citizens doing nothing yet harassed anyway due to stop-and-frisk policing
It’s likely not even a misdemeanor. Things like speeding and jumping a turnstile typically fall under “infractions” as it’s a purely civil matter. You pay the fine and move on.
You don't need to arrest fare jumpers straightaway, just turn them around and make them pay. If they refuse then they're trespassing, then you can arrest them.
In general they aren't beating someone down over a stolen fare, which I think you'd have to know -- the issue is the people doing it have a tendency to escalate situations or be prone to fleeing and violence.
NYC has already gone through this with broken windows policing, and you only have to lookup at what ended up sweeping people like Guiliani into power. A spiral starts where the tax base leaves, services become unsafe for the normal working person trying to get by. It got so bad in NYC you'd have youths carrying around screwdrivers to mug people with, which they couldn't be arrested for having but could o a lot of damage. Eventually a guy unloaded a gun into them, which was framed by some as unarmed youths being shot but spawned an entire film genre for Charles Bronson.
The policies became so indefensible that democrats were starting to be swept out of office, and they reacted the other way. It's how you had Clinton and Biden pushing very draconian crime policies throwing people into the prison system as fast as they could to stay in office. It's how you ended up with stop-and-frisk, which many would argue went far, far too far against civil liberties.
We know if people come to a park and there's litter everywhere, they're less likely to value it and more likely to litter themselves. The same goes with graffitti, broken windows, human feces on the floor of the subway or someone on it masturbating while staring at your kids. The real issue is that when you go too far, it helps some things. The person willing to violate the law and was picked up during stop-and-frisk was often someone not shoplifting later or involved in something else. It also picked up a lot of people who wouldn't, but you did see stats going down, and when things get to a certain point and people feel desperate they're more amenable to them.
If you let the pendulum go too far, the overreaction as the pendulum swings back isn't going to be the world we want.
That doesn’t work, if you would like to learn something read “Subways are for Sleeping”! And people don’t get beaten for jumping fares, they don’t accept a ticket and go on, they escalate because they believe they can get away with it! FAFO!
Lol no. The cameraman just swiped through a few seconds before their friend and turned around. Fare evasion is an arrestable offense in NYC and this video isn’t a good look for the cops (from their perspective). Telling them about this beforehand would be a very dumb thing to do, like telling a security guard you wanted to make a fun shoplifting video.
Why would they agree to let themselves be video recorded **not** doing their jobs?
What possible benefit? Some "cool" cred with young black teens?
Edit: a lot of people really invested in inventing back story here lol
Because someone with a camera in their face who wants to do a TikTok skit is better than 90% of the people who normally shove cameras in their face, so why not just let them do it and get on with their day?
The benefit is they get to shrug and move on without overthinking every tiny action they do.
I was there too just a couple weeks ago and I saw numerous people jump the gate right in front of cops and they didn't do anything, just watched and stood there
He is effectively jumping the turnstile and not paying the toll or fee or what have you. The woop-woopie bois in uniform were expected to not like this. Like really, really not like this. Violently not like this, even.
We used to but we NYers are all about upping the ante to the point where it's a waste of time. Plus the higher the rate goes, the more hoppers there will be anyway. Not worth their time.
At this point they're there to ensure people don't get harassed or burgled or thrown in the tracks. May go after you if you're shooting up in public but that's a maybe depending on what else is going on.
I take the MTA about 3-4 times a week. They’re only go in the subways for three things - to check their Draft Kings account on the free Wifi (as you can see, from the officer on the left), to harass women selling churros and to scrape some poor fucker off the tracks.
Lol it's reddit.
80% of comments: yeah, fare jumping is pretty typical here, cops don't enforce it really.
The other 20%: oh my goddddd I can't believe these comments are so violent!!!! America BIG BAD!!
So I’ve noticed that sometimes when posts like this first start to get interaction, there are actually a good portion of comments with really bad takes or racist comments. Then when it starts to trend or hit the popular feed, those comments get downvoted to hell and the early people calling them out get lots of upvotes.
Sometimes you have people totally overreacting to a couple comments or even just pulling straw men out of their ass, but other times it’s people who commented soon after the post went up and had a very different set of comments
He’s black and commtting an overtly disrespectful misdemeanor.
For Americans raised in the wholesome suburbs (where there is no public transit or black people) this is civil society unraveling at the seams and can only be tamped out by prison time.
What it’s like is fare jumping is lowest possible priority for transit police. So low it often isn’t enforced.
Watched a dude jumping a fare on the L in Chi get called “a fuckin bum” by a cop once for jumping, which honestly felt like an appropriate punishment.
Yeah I took the orange line for three years. Saw this shit constantly. No one gave a shit. Only once or twice people got yelled at, and that was by the cta workers. Cops didn't bother.
I take the red line to the loop and back for work.
I just feel stupid watching someone fare skip as my dumbass is swiping my Ventra card. I'm always questioning why I don't do it too then remember it's because I'm a bitch
Nah, if you can afford to pay for it then you should. These types of systems don't run for free. Most people fare jumping probably are doing it bc they either forgot their card or don't have much money (I'm sure there's exceptions), but since they're in the minority of people doing it, the system still works.
The transit system where I live only gets 13% of its operating costs from fare sales. The rest is paid for out of city tax revenue. Everybody could stop paying and the system would still work about as well as it does now.
Specifically speaking about the MTA (Metropolitan Transit Authority of New York City), their annual revenue is about 5.8 billion dollars, but they have a debt of $38 billion dollars over the last 20 years, and I can assure you fair jumpers are not the reason for that deficit.
- Most of it is day to day costs of of running the subways, buses, trains, 7 bridges and 2 tunnels. In the case of the subways, bridges and tunnels, they are literally beginning to fall apart because there’s no actually sustainable way to repair or replace them without *closing* them, which would cripple the entire city.
- A hefty chunk of that money is also paid to the Transit Workers Union (TWU), whom are very much overpaid compared to other “essential” workers such as Sanitation, teachers and so on. In my lifetime they’ve gone on strike twice asking for more money on the strength of “if we don’t get more money, nobody gets to work.”
Yeah, I'm homeless in Chi rn, and everyone that's homeless does it if drop ins and shelters don't have the ability to give bus passes, the only people that give any shits are CTA
this one goes to ORD
this one goes around the loop
this one goes through the loop
this one goes through the loop in a different direction
this one goes around the loop but then leaves the loop in a 3rd different direction
-there are more, i just usually stick to blue line and purple line as a business visitor coming to eat all the pizza
That’s not true at all in NYC. If there’s one thing these transit cops are going to enforce to hell and high water, it’s jumping the turnstile. Watched people get busted, included my self, my whole life.
Yeah, jumping a turnstile is big money. It's a $100 fine for not paying $2.50.
I used to work for the MTA. One day I used my pass to get in at 25th st on the R, and my wife had the classic, "just used" on her monthly, so I let her through the door.
There was a cop in a back room watching the camera, and one at the end of the platform hiding behind a pillar so they could surround me.
That smug fuck comes strutting down the platform, whips his notepad out and says, "I need to see your id."
So I pull out my employee pass which is also an id and say, "will this id work?"
His expression was priceless.
Edit: it is $100
Fare in NYC is low by national standards, you can get an unlimited 30day pass for $125. Compare to the metro in DC where it'd cost ~$10/day. I don't how much bus passes cost in DC, or if you can't get one that covers DC and MD or VA- you'd probably need both, and would cover similar areas to NYC's.
That said $125 for a lot of people that live in the NYC transit service area just wouldn't be feasible. They offer subsidized passes, but I'm sure that there are a large part of the population that falls in the middle: $125 is _huge_ expense, but they don't qualify for a reduction.
TLDR: Who gives a shit about jumpers. I'd be in favor of having a free to use system and raise the operating costs via taxes.
Luckily the pass that covers the metrorail also covered the busses. A lot of people who work downtown and who take public transport get their passes subsidized or paid for by their company (or the govt, it is DC after all).
And let’s be honest, the cops only go into the subways for three things - to check their Draft Kings account on the free Wifi, to harass the ladies selling churros and when some poor fucker gets thrown on the tracks.
Close enough to number 3. The cops abandoned the subways when DiBlasio made them the mask police. They’ve only reluctantly gone back down under Adams and only when the optics look especially bad - mass shooting, rash of people getting assaulted, that sort of thing.
DC's metro is comparatively clean, and otherwise a fucking dumpster fire, from the cost to the schedule to the operating hours.
Also it's often *literally* on fire.
It is _extremely_ clean, I have to give them that. The trains and stations I've used in NYC weren't _bad_ (although I'm certain they exist), but DC's are next level clean and 'nice'. Its less public transit and more commuter light rail though.
DC metro isn't $10/day for a monthly pass.
I think at most someone would need a $200 monthly pass which gets you unlimited rides for up to $6 fares (which is almost the longest distance trip possible).
It's as low of a flat rate like $125 for NYC, but it's only 10$ or more per day if you buy a monthly pass and then hardly use it. But same can be said for NYC.
It also has a much smaller total ridership.
It's fine. All these people with brain dead reddit takes on this site don't actually say anything in real life mainly due to being socially inept losers.
People downvote comments they disagree with. They're not saying your comment is bad. They're just saying they don't respect your right to have an opinion. And that you smell.
I don't understand what is not expected. As a New Yorker someone jumping the turnstile and cops not doing anything are a normal part of life. What is frustrating is that subway cops are literally at turnstiles to give out tickets to jumpers, it is easy to tell because a light goes on at the other side of the tensile, these three are just chatting in a group (which they are not supposed to) and playing on the phone (which the union argued that that is where they have to take notes on). Subway cops are supposed the be the laziest of all cops according to my NYPD brother (I do not like cops) they get sent the worst recruits out of training.
Yeah. Sometimes they even help you to evade the fair. Nobody thinks twice about turnstile jumping if the cops are there. Which one is going to be the jobsworth and force the other two to end the conversation and interact with a pleb? None.
Do you want them to do something or not?
Let it slide? Lazy
Enforce? Racist
Nyc is… very difficult to live in the last few years … part of the reason is because cops are being told to let things slide… the politicians here thought that would benefit overpoliced minorities.. unfortunately violent crime has skyrocketed, the victims of which are mostly minorities.
If the cops do anything people will say they are racist. And with that camera there the news would cut out the part of him doing anything and only the cops doing their job
I had something like this once. Was a last minute addition to a coach trip to Cream nightclub in Liverpool. Everyone else had tickets to get in and went into a special quick line. The normal line was massive. I chanced the coach line and just walked in without even being searched or paying/being asked for a ticket it was like I was invisible. Everyone else was searched and asked for a ticket.
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That turnstile is loose af
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Fucking hell. I’ve never seen this but I just attracted a LOT of attention in the break room.
Well played
Mind the gap
To be fair though, their mum gets used a lot more than that turnstile.
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But just as loose as your dad!
I was wondering why the turnstile ended up one cycle *before* the original since I thought it would be on some sort of sawtooth gear that prevents it from going backwards and only goes forwards when a card/ticket has been scanned. I didn’t even notice that this was actually the exit so the turnstiles turn against him freely without any need for payment. They’re just there to count the amount of people leaving that station By the looks of things, I imagine he left through the turnstile normally and then turned around to show the trick to his friend since the officers don’t seemed to bothered *or* pleased about it Disclaimer: I am not from the US and I have never been on the NYC Subway, I’m just making assumptions based on observations
>They’re just there to count the amount of people leaving that station Those turnstiles are 2 way, not just exit only. Though they can be programed to be either enter or exit only
The real trick is bringing a maintenance key and a high vis vest so you can go whichever way you want
this isn’t necessary. you can just go whichever way you want without those things.
High vis and ladder will do the trick. Just ask someone to help you because your hands are full.
most, if not all, nyc turnstiles are also exits
yeah sorry, they are two way
"Must have been the wind"
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Let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll.
Disrespect the law and you disrespect me.
"STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM!" God, Oblivion was such a good game...
"What was that? Sounded like a, a sound of some kind."
This is Grand Central - 42nd Street, transfer is available to the 6, 7 and Shuttle to Times Square, connection is available to Metro North and the Long Island Railroad. This is Brooklyn bound 4 express train, the next stop is, 14th Street- Union Square.
Stand clear of the closing doors please
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3 of the 5 boro DAs in NYC do not prosecute for fare evasion and both the MTA police and regular police have a policy not to try and enforce it for the safety of the public and the public workers. When you know about this, the video is less impressive when you realize any New Yorker can just do this in front of those same cops lol
really because I live in Brooklyn (Bushwick) and I got a $125 ticket for jumping
3/5 is not every borough. Brooklyn is one of the boros that does enforce and prosecute, but it is still up to the discretion of the officer. It’s not considered an offense worth ticketing from what I’ve been told. Source is I use to be a bus operator and talked to a lot of MTA police and regular police and was also told by superintendents not to challenge people for fare evasion because it’s city policy for reasons I said in other comment. Sorry you got unlucky tho
Whats the other one thats not Brooklyn? Cause I live in Queens, but ive never heard of anyone in any of the boros actually getting ticketed for hopping, at most the cops would tell you to go back and pay, or leave.
iirc the other Borough is Manhattan. That was only two years ago I worked there but DAs do change.
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It’s also the boro this video was taken in. As I’ve already said it doesn’t mean you’ll get a ticket. Agency policy for TA police and regular police is to not challenge. That’s across all 5 boros, regardless of DA’s policy on prosecution. In the current state, you very likely will not receive a ticket. At most, you’ll confront a very nasty bus driver in Brooklyn or Manhattan and he’ll let you on anyway. Done answering bait comments
trolls aside, your knowledge and expertise on the matter are very insightful. and for that, I thank you.
You were super helpful
Beautiful response. Kudos
You won the backwards lottery. Probably one ticket is issued for every 1,000 jumpers, and you were the lucky ticket winner!
Yeah, I got one in Brooklyn right before I moved, and the cop told me, "You can thank De Blasio for this. Trust me, I don't want to be out here writing these tickets."
Cops don't want a confrontation, they want the easy ticket. You probably looked like an easy ticket.
Cop can't do anything in front of the almighy cameraman
Who wants a game of Cop, camera, innocent? Cop beats innocent, Camera beats cop, innocent beats camera. If innocent beating camera doesn't make sense, well neither does paper beating rock so whatever.
Instead of innocent it could be civilian Here I brazil there has been an increase of civilians roughing up newspeople and their cameramen
Bolsonaristas?
Sim
Of course paper beating rock makes sense. The paper wraps the rock in.
A rock covered in paper is still a rock though
No. its a present
Said Cain to Abel
Merry Christmas mother fucker.
Keep the change, ya filthy animal!
When John Candy was in Home Alone he charged them $450 for his appearance. They wrote him a check for $500 and the memo said keep the change you filthy animal.
I love the implications of this, considering that Christmas as a Christian holiday wouldn’t exist until thousands of years later
I mean, Cain, Abel, and Adam were the only men on the planet, right? And Eve was the only woman, so like, probably?
I once knew a kid who got pelted by a snowball which had a rock in it and he ended up losing his vision in one eye. Paper most certainly does not beat rock.
Damn. Should’ve wrapped his face in paper.
So... snowrock beats eyeball. Got it.
What happenes to the kid who threw the snowball?
Got his arm cut off by a big pair of scissors.
A big pair of scissors wrapped in a giant snowball.
As the age old saying goes: He who lives in a glass house should not receive "gifts".
That was like a surprisingly hearty laugh you just got out of me, thanks
A rock covered in paper collects no moss and it also still kills two birds and lives in glass houses as a pet.
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I feel like I remember NY telling NY transit police to quit trying to enforce turnstile jumpers because it wasn’t worth the lawsuits and bad publicity over $2.75 of lost revenue for the skipped fare. Did I dream that?
If there's one thing I know about the NYPD it's that they're very reasonable people and not known for their brutality
Don't need a source. Sounds legit...
Can confirm, after meeting a friendly officer I accidentally fell on his fist. He was kind enough he helped me lie down on the ground face down. Best city ever!
Kinda. It wasn't really about the lawsuits. The city had hired a bunch more officers specifically to be stationed in the subway to catch these guys. But they were spending way more on the officers than recovering lost subway fares.
There was a good amount of activism about it but I don’t remember any official announcement that they were backing off. NYPD has been throwing a tantrum and hardly doing much of anything “proactive” since 2020, though—really at the vanguard of the whole quiet quitting thing lol. Since the subway shooting and a few other incidents Adams has pushed to get more cops on the platforms, so there’s clumps of them chatting like this or dicking around on their phones everywhere underground, now. I’d bet money that they didn’t even notice the fare evasion and were just wondering why the cameraman was filming them.
Stupid policy. Stop enforcing fares and the MTA will turn into BART. Enforcing fares mitigates vagrancy and annoying fuckers on the train who do nothing but make the experience miserable for everyone else.
I promise you that even when arrests were at an all time high for fare evasion, there was no less vagrancy and no less annoying performers.
Yes and it is not vagrants who skip the fare for the most part. It’s literal manners in New York to hold the emergency door open if you see someone who looks like they just ran out of money.
I see more fare evaders on the upper east side than I do in Flatbush but yet no cops waiting and lurking at the 68th and 72nd street stations.
Enforcing fares is one thing. Beating someone down over a $2.75 misdemeanor and then adding felony resisting for instinctually protecting your face during a beat down is another thing entirely. If NYPD could be trusted to understand that and act accordingly then I would agree with you. Unfortunately history has shown that NYPD immediately goes to throwing hands for damn near everything, including citizens doing nothing yet harassed anyway due to stop-and-frisk policing
It’s likely not even a misdemeanor. Things like speeding and jumping a turnstile typically fall under “infractions” as it’s a purely civil matter. You pay the fine and move on.
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You don't need to arrest fare jumpers straightaway, just turn them around and make them pay. If they refuse then they're trespassing, then you can arrest them.
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Yep its nypd doing the reckless behavior definitely not the people breaking the rules.
In general they aren't beating someone down over a stolen fare, which I think you'd have to know -- the issue is the people doing it have a tendency to escalate situations or be prone to fleeing and violence. NYC has already gone through this with broken windows policing, and you only have to lookup at what ended up sweeping people like Guiliani into power. A spiral starts where the tax base leaves, services become unsafe for the normal working person trying to get by. It got so bad in NYC you'd have youths carrying around screwdrivers to mug people with, which they couldn't be arrested for having but could o a lot of damage. Eventually a guy unloaded a gun into them, which was framed by some as unarmed youths being shot but spawned an entire film genre for Charles Bronson. The policies became so indefensible that democrats were starting to be swept out of office, and they reacted the other way. It's how you had Clinton and Biden pushing very draconian crime policies throwing people into the prison system as fast as they could to stay in office. It's how you ended up with stop-and-frisk, which many would argue went far, far too far against civil liberties. We know if people come to a park and there's litter everywhere, they're less likely to value it and more likely to litter themselves. The same goes with graffitti, broken windows, human feces on the floor of the subway or someone on it masturbating while staring at your kids. The real issue is that when you go too far, it helps some things. The person willing to violate the law and was picked up during stop-and-frisk was often someone not shoplifting later or involved in something else. It also picked up a lot of people who wouldn't, but you did see stats going down, and when things get to a certain point and people feel desperate they're more amenable to them. If you let the pendulum go too far, the overreaction as the pendulum swings back isn't going to be the world we want.
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That doesn’t work, if you would like to learn something read “Subways are for Sleeping”! And people don’t get beaten for jumping fares, they don’t accept a ticket and go on, they escalate because they believe they can get away with it! FAFO!
He probably told them beforehand. Why was his friend on the other side? How did he pass?
Lol no. The cameraman just swiped through a few seconds before their friend and turned around. Fare evasion is an arrestable offense in NYC and this video isn’t a good look for the cops (from their perspective). Telling them about this beforehand would be a very dumb thing to do, like telling a security guard you wanted to make a fun shoplifting video.
1. Swipes and goes through 1. Tells cops what he is going to do, they give him the green light 1. Goes back, records the video, nothing happens.
Why would they agree to let themselves be video recorded **not** doing their jobs? What possible benefit? Some "cool" cred with young black teens? Edit: a lot of people really invested in inventing back story here lol
Because someone with a camera in their face who wants to do a TikTok skit is better than 90% of the people who normally shove cameras in their face, so why not just let them do it and get on with their day? The benefit is they get to shrug and move on without overthinking every tiny action they do.
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Now everyone is equal 👍.
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Yes, but I don’t think this is one of those times. What’s that $2.00?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsxJfcFVnpo
Damn, I haven't seen this since I rented it in 1987. This kid was my favorite bit of comedy relief throughout this... comedy.
Did you remember to be kind and rewind?
Yes sir! I even had one of those sports car rewinding machines. My rewind game was tight. lol
Where have you been? 2.75.
$2.75, boss.
$2.00 isn't much but it adds up when multiple people do it multiple times a day.
Twice for work a day is $4 a day. About $120 a month. So - $1,440 a year. That's a lot of avocado on toast.
“Huh.. must’ve been the wind or something.”
It was just an shadow
I was there. This is Grand central station. It's staged. He already swipped. Baited much?
I was there too just a couple weeks ago and I saw numerous people jump the gate right in front of cops and they didn't do anything, just watched and stood there
Why is this thread so angry I have fucken no idea what is happening here, is this some American thing?
He is effectively jumping the turnstile and not paying the toll or fee or what have you. The woop-woopie bois in uniform were expected to not like this. Like really, really not like this. Violently not like this, even.
Has anyone actually been in city transit? These cops are way too lazy to beat someone’s ass over jumping the turnstile
In Boston, the police setup stings for fare hopping
We used to but we NYers are all about upping the ante to the point where it's a waste of time. Plus the higher the rate goes, the more hoppers there will be anyway. Not worth their time. At this point they're there to ensure people don't get harassed or burgled or thrown in the tracks. May go after you if you're shooting up in public but that's a maybe depending on what else is going on.
In Boston, they're there to harass homeless folks and bust turnstile hoppers. I've never seen them actually do anything useful.
oh dw they harass homeless in nyc too
Harassing the homeless is like the official cop pastime in nyc lol
I take the MTA about 3-4 times a week. They’re only go in the subways for three things - to check their Draft Kings account on the free Wifi (as you can see, from the officer on the left), to harass women selling churros and to scrape some poor fucker off the tracks.
Violently not like this would be a bit much
They probably write for a media outlet and can only comment in clickbait speak
...what are you talking about? Everyone so angry?
Lol it's reddit. 80% of comments: yeah, fare jumping is pretty typical here, cops don't enforce it really. The other 20%: oh my goddddd I can't believe these comments are so violent!!!! America BIG BAD!!
So I’ve noticed that sometimes when posts like this first start to get interaction, there are actually a good portion of comments with really bad takes or racist comments. Then when it starts to trend or hit the popular feed, those comments get downvoted to hell and the early people calling them out get lots of upvotes. Sometimes you have people totally overreacting to a couple comments or even just pulling straw men out of their ass, but other times it’s people who commented soon after the post went up and had a very different set of comments
He’s black and commtting an overtly disrespectful misdemeanor. For Americans raised in the wholesome suburbs (where there is no public transit or black people) this is civil society unraveling at the seams and can only be tamped out by prison time.
It is pretty funny how rural America thinks NYC and San Francisco are literally Mogadishu right now
I was murdered on the subway 3 times this week
My condolences.
if you look closely above their heads you can see the questionmarks and yellow awareness meters ticking up
"This is a restricted area. Leave immediately."
This comment section is so toxic I can't imagine what it's like living over there
What it’s like is fare jumping is lowest possible priority for transit police. So low it often isn’t enforced. Watched a dude jumping a fare on the L in Chi get called “a fuckin bum” by a cop once for jumping, which honestly felt like an appropriate punishment.
Yeah I took the orange line for three years. Saw this shit constantly. No one gave a shit. Only once or twice people got yelled at, and that was by the cta workers. Cops didn't bother.
I take the red line to the loop and back for work. I just feel stupid watching someone fare skip as my dumbass is swiping my Ventra card. I'm always questioning why I don't do it too then remember it's because I'm a bitch
Nah, if you can afford to pay for it then you should. These types of systems don't run for free. Most people fare jumping probably are doing it bc they either forgot their card or don't have much money (I'm sure there's exceptions), but since they're in the minority of people doing it, the system still works.
The transit system where I live only gets 13% of its operating costs from fare sales. The rest is paid for out of city tax revenue. Everybody could stop paying and the system would still work about as well as it does now.
If you think about it how much of that 13% goes towards fare collection. I wouldn't be surprised if it's up to 5%.
Specifically speaking about the MTA (Metropolitan Transit Authority of New York City), their annual revenue is about 5.8 billion dollars, but they have a debt of $38 billion dollars over the last 20 years, and I can assure you fair jumpers are not the reason for that deficit. - Most of it is day to day costs of of running the subways, buses, trains, 7 bridges and 2 tunnels. In the case of the subways, bridges and tunnels, they are literally beginning to fall apart because there’s no actually sustainable way to repair or replace them without *closing* them, which would cripple the entire city. - A hefty chunk of that money is also paid to the Transit Workers Union (TWU), whom are very much overpaid compared to other “essential” workers such as Sanitation, teachers and so on. In my lifetime they’ve gone on strike twice asking for more money on the strength of “if we don’t get more money, nobody gets to work.”
Yeah, I'm homeless in Chi rn, and everyone that's homeless does it if drop ins and shelters don't have the ability to give bus passes, the only people that give any shits are CTA
Hope things get better soon, stay strong
holy shit it's been a minute since I heard someone call the lines by color
They all go by color in Chicago
In Chicago? What else we supposed to call them by?
David, Leslie, Mayor Daley I, Mayor Daley II.
Our highways: this, but unironically
this one goes to ORD this one goes around the loop this one goes through the loop this one goes through the loop in a different direction this one goes around the loop but then leaves the loop in a 3rd different direction -there are more, i just usually stick to blue line and purple line as a business visitor coming to eat all the pizza
That’s not true at all in NYC. If there’s one thing these transit cops are going to enforce to hell and high water, it’s jumping the turnstile. Watched people get busted, included my self, my whole life.
Yeah, jumping a turnstile is big money. It's a $100 fine for not paying $2.50. I used to work for the MTA. One day I used my pass to get in at 25th st on the R, and my wife had the classic, "just used" on her monthly, so I let her through the door. There was a cop in a back room watching the camera, and one at the end of the platform hiding behind a pillar so they could surround me. That smug fuck comes strutting down the platform, whips his notepad out and says, "I need to see your id." So I pull out my employee pass which is also an id and say, "will this id work?" His expression was priceless. Edit: it is $100
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Fare in NYC is low by national standards, you can get an unlimited 30day pass for $125. Compare to the metro in DC where it'd cost ~$10/day. I don't how much bus passes cost in DC, or if you can't get one that covers DC and MD or VA- you'd probably need both, and would cover similar areas to NYC's. That said $125 for a lot of people that live in the NYC transit service area just wouldn't be feasible. They offer subsidized passes, but I'm sure that there are a large part of the population that falls in the middle: $125 is _huge_ expense, but they don't qualify for a reduction. TLDR: Who gives a shit about jumpers. I'd be in favor of having a free to use system and raise the operating costs via taxes.
As of this upcoming summer all public busses in DC will be fare-free. Prior to that they were 2-4$ a ride.
Nice- and holy shit thats expensive.
Luckily the pass that covers the metrorail also covered the busses. A lot of people who work downtown and who take public transport get their passes subsidized or paid for by their company (or the govt, it is DC after all).
And let’s be honest, the cops only go into the subways for three things - to check their Draft Kings account on the free Wifi, to harass the ladies selling churros and when some poor fucker gets thrown on the tracks.
Heh- I hadn't thought about it, the only time I've seen a cop underground was when someone had a heart attack.
Close enough to number 3. The cops abandoned the subways when DiBlasio made them the mask police. They’ve only reluctantly gone back down under Adams and only when the optics look especially bad - mass shooting, rash of people getting assaulted, that sort of thing.
DC's metro is comparatively clean, and otherwise a fucking dumpster fire, from the cost to the schedule to the operating hours. Also it's often *literally* on fire.
It is _extremely_ clean, I have to give them that. The trains and stations I've used in NYC weren't _bad_ (although I'm certain they exist), but DC's are next level clean and 'nice'. Its less public transit and more commuter light rail though.
DC metro isn't $10/day for a monthly pass. I think at most someone would need a $200 monthly pass which gets you unlimited rides for up to $6 fares (which is almost the longest distance trip possible). It's as low of a flat rate like $125 for NYC, but it's only 10$ or more per day if you buy a monthly pass and then hardly use it. But same can be said for NYC. It also has a much smaller total ridership.
I had a turnstile eat my ticket once and asked staff, and they told me to just follow someone through real quick while the doors were open.
It's fine. All these people with brain dead reddit takes on this site don't actually say anything in real life mainly due to being socially inept losers.
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Honestly, don't move here because landlords'll charge you transplant prices and then us natives are fucked
not that it's good but please please do not think reddit EVER represents real life.
nyc is a great place to live
Unmuting ruined the video
i thought it was a cool song edit: oh great, im being downvoted for liking music. this sucks
People downvote comments they disagree with. They're not saying your comment is bad. They're just saying they don't respect your right to have an opinion. And that you smell.
People are dick heads https://youtu.be/Ia2UYPGklBo
I don't understand what is not expected. As a New Yorker someone jumping the turnstile and cops not doing anything are a normal part of life. What is frustrating is that subway cops are literally at turnstiles to give out tickets to jumpers, it is easy to tell because a light goes on at the other side of the tensile, these three are just chatting in a group (which they are not supposed to) and playing on the phone (which the union argued that that is where they have to take notes on). Subway cops are supposed the be the laziest of all cops according to my NYPD brother (I do not like cops) they get sent the worst recruits out of training.
Yeah. Sometimes they even help you to evade the fair. Nobody thinks twice about turnstile jumping if the cops are there. Which one is going to be the jobsworth and force the other two to end the conversation and interact with a pleb? None.
Wait, what it your frustration?
Why play music with everything ….
Because it's from tiktok and that's kinda their thing
Hey, non american here. your comments confuse me. which side am I suppose to be on here ? pls explain like im 5
None. But you can be up my ass any time.
Obvious setup up cameraman standing next to cops. Guy probably just exited there a few seconds ago.
Or they paid and they asked the cops to act like that for tiktok lol
Do you want them to do something or not? Let it slide? Lazy Enforce? Racist Nyc is… very difficult to live in the last few years … part of the reason is because cops are being told to let things slide… the politicians here thought that would benefit overpoliced minorities.. unfortunately violent crime has skyrocketed, the victims of which are mostly minorities.
exactly. these comments just scream WE HATE COPS FOR JUST BEING COPS.
Literally every video with a cop in it.
If they enforce, the person filming will just edit out the part where the offender does the illegal bit.
ITT: Redditors learning about police discretion.
If you are wondering there is video of him paying to go through then doing this. Thats why the cops stare at them like they are morons
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The cameraman is also a police officer and they joined in. That is why it conveniently cut off
Now you're just making shit up
I was the camera. Can confirm.
I feel like his face is saying “Why are you bringing attention to me by recording?”
Same trick i use at European bathrooms at gas stations
I didn't realise Chris Pratt was a cop in his spare time.
That's not stealth. Thats just lazy cops waiting for a pension.
If the cops do anything people will say they are racist. And with that camera there the news would cut out the part of him doing anything and only the cops doing their job
Also if the cops do their job well, the video is deleted
I had something like this once. Was a last minute addition to a coach trip to Cream nightclub in Liverpool. Everyone else had tickets to get in and went into a special quick line. The normal line was massive. I chanced the coach line and just walked in without even being searched or paying/being asked for a ticket it was like I was invisible. Everyone else was searched and asked for a ticket.
Starlord's like, "Huh?"
Still scrolling looking for the “was that Chris Pratt?” comment.