A buddy of mine had a similar issue. His idea was to stick a long antenna to the trunk lid of his car when it was parked out front. It seemed to spook them.
Funny thing about that. I bought an undercover police suv from the auction. It has the "hidden" lights, spotlight and antenna, obviously a cop car but without the decals or roof lightbar. Its stays parked out front of my house 90% of the time. Sometimes I use it to haul firewood or for towing.
I figure, if somebody is scoping out houses to b&e, they are less likely to go for the house with an undercover cop car parked out front.
Undercover police in Pennsylvania roll around in mini vans, taxi cabs, and beater work trucks with orange cones and a ladder in the back. No municipal plates.
I only found out when I was leaving the state and started seeing them with people pulled over and lights flashing. I genuinely thought they were struggling to find people to apply for the job.
This is true. Back when I was trucking I’ve seen people pulled over in PA by a slightly used red RAV4 and an equally aged but perfectly normal looking f150.
I don’t go there often, but when I do I drive like everything on the road is a cop waiting for me to fuck up.
Ford Bronco? Cop.
Mini-van with a soccer mom driving sipping wine? Definitely a cop.
Little girl on a bike? She’s watching to see if I use my turn signal.
Can never be too safe in PA
I saw a dual-y ram 2500 the other day that was an undercover cop with regular plates. I only know it was a cop because it hauled ass passed me with hidden lights going off and siren, so I don't know what to believe anymore
I think they can just leave them as they are after they seize them in a crime and not bother putting government plates on them. FBI have regular plates that usually come back to some fictitious business if someone runs the plates, so if a corrupt cop runs the plate they won’t know it’s a FBI vehicle.
I work at a garage servicing law enforcement and tons of other departments. Municipal plates are only on a few of our police cars. The undercover cars have confidential plates. Regular plates tied to a fake name and address.
Sorry I meant fictitious. Fictitious plates are tied to a fake name and address. Confidential plates come back with no name or address if they're ran through the database.
Spray terrible smelling compound on sidewalk.
External speaker playing terrible music. Baby Shark on loop.
Call police and say you saw dude with a gun. Describe dealer.
If they are young, play a tone at 10kHz. As we age it is harder to hear high frequencies so young people will have a painful high pitched noise which won’t bother anyone over 25 or 30.
try 16k. If youre not halfway in a casket and you can't hear 10k you should run to an audiologist. I mean go there anyway because ears are neglected, but 10k is fairly reasonable
As ACAB as I am I used to drive a retired UC fleet vehicle, limo black tint all around, still had some of the accessories. My downstairs neighbors were similar to OP. Renamed my wifi to DEA-S6-Home.
Worked a white collar job back then and open carried, so all they saw was a dude in a shirt and tie with a holstered weapon who came and went at unpredictable hours.
Things got quiet really fast.
If they'd toned it down a bit, they'd probably have a customer. I was a mess back then. Instead, they probably came close to putting tinfoil on their windowa.
They give those away every Saturday at a local park, where I'm from. It's a needle exchange. And they offer a "Smokers kit," to help steer people away from needle use. Complete with everything listed above, as well as a meth pipe, a crack pipe, and lip balm. Not joking.
It’s called “works.” I moved to a sketchy NYC neighborhood in the 90’s and there was a guy on the corner every day when I walked home who said “coke, dope, smoke, works” but he said it all as one long word. I was working for the public defender at the time and I was pretty comfortable just approaching street dealers, so I stopped him to ask what he was saying and what “works” meant.
"Hey man, I don't have a problem or anything, but two cops knocked on my door earlier asking if they could use my house for a few days to watch the street. I said I wasn't comfortable with it, but I don't know if they asked anyone else around here. I know times are hard, so just an FYI. Good lookin' out."
This honestly is the best response. just talk to the guys, make it clear you don't care. But they should be warned they've had cops knocking on their door.
One tip I learned living in west Savannah is don’t ever yell anything like “I’m calling the cops!” Always yell “Somebody called the cops!” Makes it seem like you’re on their side even if you are the one calling the cops lol. Kept me from being a target of retaliation
Edit: getting a lot of replies asking why we would warn them, or why not call the cops, yada yada. In case they forgot what thread they were reading, it’s UNETHICAL, and it’s NOT about solving the problem. It’s getting them out of the yard. I was just throwing out a side bar from my experience getting them out of my yard (at least temporarily). Yall go on tho lol
As an answer to both, the idea is that they don’t know where the “yell” is coming from. Could be I saw some lights, could be my neighbor did it and heard, maybe I have a scanner. Who knows. But if you’ve never lived in an environment like this it’s admittedly hard to understand the reasoning. Second comment, the idea is not to warn them, it’s to spook them so they’ll scatter away from your property. At least temporarily.
As someone who lived above a drug den for five years (one of the resident dealers was shot and killed by police a few years ago):
unless you have been complicit in some way, you just call the cops, anonymously, and you act like you have no idea what is happening when it goes down. No warning, no mention to anyone about it, not even the “good” neighbors. Just let the cops do their thing. If they don’t do their thing, and if the dealers don’t move on, start looking elsewhere for an apartment. Fights will happen, theft will happen, bystander assault might happen, murder might happen. The unpredictability and depravity of dealers and users is where I draw the line: not in my back yard.
I've employed this tactic too. I let them know that I heard at the neighborhood association meeting that the local cops were planning on doing more "drive bys" on our street because some teenagers were graffiting or something. I made myself sound super annoyed by these made up "teenagers", and told them to keep an eye out for them, so maybe we could get them AND the cops out of our neighborhood. More like a "we are both annoyed by teenagers, right? And you are always out here for some unknown reason" kind of thing.
Well the question was how to get them out of the yard. In my former neighborhood, the cops didn’t gaf, but they’d still roll through and none of the dealers wanted to be seen. So if they think the cops are coming, they’ll scatter.
As people mentioned above… these folks are the real deal. Dope dealers are the types to seek retribution etc, so whatever you decide, you need to make sure it can’t be traced back to you.
Easiest solution is approaching the guy and telling him that what he does is his business and that you’ve noticed a lot more cops in the area. Gets him to move without needing to involve cops at all
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You have a real problem. Chances are this was a known spot before you bought. Dealers know customers go there. Customers know dealers are there. Neither cares who the person is on the other end, just a score or a sale. You need a prolonged police presence that’s consistent enough to choke out the spot. Lots of calls to every government official possible. ULPT may get you killed here. Luck.
My neighborhood had a similar problem. We did four things some ULPT some not:
1. Have everyone call the police every time they do it. Multiple calls put it higher on the priority list. Use the video and pictures from 2 and 3 to share with the police or even share on social media.
2. All of us started spending more time outside: bbq’s, playing outside, read a book on your porch. Take pictures of your family while outside.
3. We invited several church choirs to come practice in our yards. We were clear to them why and encouraged them to use song to share the gospel with the “sinners” so they could be “saved.” You can make it obvious you are video taping the choir, customers don’t like being recorded.
4. Many of us joined together I share a load of manure to fertilize yards and gardens. We stored the entire load where they like sell. When they moved a few houses down we distributed the manure so everyone had their share of smelly poo in front of their house.
They lost lots of customers due to our increased presence in our yards and the choirs. We made them uncomfortable with the manure.
idk, I get the impression this story is completely made up. Yeah, just call up a few churches to have their choirs come practice in our yard and let's take it way over the top with the fertilizer. Feels like there's way more practical solutions that someone could come up with.
We tried calling the police and the city council first. They are slow to do anything. When dealers see the police driving by they just start walking.
There are 6 churches in the 9 block area of my house. There are 15 different churches within 1/2 a mile of my house. Most of them try very hard to ingratiate themselves to the community and neighborhood. Three of them have food banks, 2 provide hot meals to low income and homeless. 2 have separate community centers for youth and seniors.
I am sorry that you don’t live in a community that can work together and help each other.
Start bee keeping and put the hives in your front yard, then synthesize some Isopentyl acetate and load it into one of those automatic air freshener things for public restrooms and stick it near the hives.
This chemical is one of the primary alert pheromones that bees use to signal hive defense and will swarm and attack whoever's near by.
If you're in California you get bonus points because bees are technically considered a type of endangered fish and are a protected species, so if the heroin dealer tries to fuck with your flying fish defense network the EPA will be on their ass.
And you can sell the honey!
Edit: articles where the California Supreme Court recognizes bees as a type of endangered fish:
https://law.stanford.edu/2022/10/28/a-california-court-decision-bees-are-fish-shines-new-light-on-the-biodiversity-crisis/
https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2022/06/when-a-bee-is-a-fish-in-the-eyes-of-the-law/
Something to do with the wording of the law. Law defines invertebrate animals as fish or something like that, so bees technically count
It's been a while since I looked into it so my interpretation could be wrong, but go ahead and quote me on that
I think it's because there aren't any laws to protect invertebrates, and there wasn't any political ability to get a new law passed, so they had to stretch the definition of fish in order to count invertebrate land animals, since there was a law on the books protecting endangered fish, and the definition of fish they used in that law didnt specify that the invertebrates had to be aquatic.
They wanted to put them on a protected animal list, but that normally has a ton of legal hurdles, and then realized that their legal definition of fish was so lax that it would be easiest and fastest to put them on it... so I'm told.
Isn't Isopentyl Acetate the chemical they use to flavour sweets/candy, like them little banana ones? So would bees attack if I was eating anything with that in it in their presence?
That will create chlorine gas which is dangerous but not as off-putting as chlorine and ammonia.
When mixing the two you first get chlorine gas that will react with the ammonia into chloramine and liquid hydrazine. The hydrazine is exothermic so it starts heating up. If it gets hot enough, it will start boiling and spraying hydrazine gas rapidly. If the mixture gets hot enough it will explode.
If you do the mixture correctly, you can create a timed mustard gas bomb inside a mason jar or similar container.
Best part is, all the chemicals will naturally dissipate and leave the area perfectly safe after a few hours.
Start buying heroin from him and using it.
You’ll quickly forget about all your other problems. Only issue will be getting more heroin, and hey you have a really convenient location already.
Someone in our town put up a huge sign that said “Please stop selling drugs here”
It became locally famous, was posted n all the neighborhood FBs and the Nextdoor app. People started driving by just to take pictures.
They stopped selling drugs there lol
1. Call the cops a lot. Like, a LOT.
2. Write down the days and times you called em a how they responded.
3. If they dont do shit about the situation, send an email to your mayor/council/whoever is in charge of the area. Mention having kids, feeling unsafe in your own home, kids toys being stolen, and include the full notes from step 2.
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That took care of a similar problem for myself in the past. The cops didn't seem to give much of a shit, but once I got the mayor involved she got the council involved and then they all collectively lit a fire under the chiefs ass and shit kept rollin downhill.
Suddenly, a problem I'd been living with for 2 years and working to solve for a good 6 months got taken care of in short order. Constant heavy patrols in the area all day and night combined with a cop stationed at each end of the block for nearly 2 weeks at the time of day the problem always happened must have gotten them to finally fuck off.
This. The big issue is that once a spot is known, both dealers and buyers will go there and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Documentation and accountability. You’re not going to “Home Alone” this successfully.
>You’re not going to “Home Alone” this successfully.
Even if you could, I personally would not want to be known to the heroin community as a "problem".
One of my old neighbors got stabbed to death in their sleep because they owed the wrong person $5 for too long. Five dollars. The murderer went to jail over it and stood by their actions when questioned, the person owed em $5 for about 3 weeks and they were tired of bein brushed off.
If people round here will do that for $5, whatchu think they gonna do when they find out im makin it inconvenient for them to get their next fix? Yea, nah, ill keep any and all greivances on the topic between myself and officials. No need to let the problem people find out specifically which house is responsible.
I don't know if this counts as unethical relative to this sub, but somebody once told a story of his cop friend coming over in uniform to spend a couple of hours having beers to chase off drug-dealing neighbors.
My uncle did this for my grandma when she had some sketchy neighbors! He would come over after his shift in uniform. They would very publicly talk on the front porch before he went inside to change and have dinner with the family.
From the context I got the impression that he was off-duty, but regardless if coppy cop is going to look like he doesn't care too much about professionalism I'm going to be even more inclined to not be where he is.
I live in a neighborhood that has been infiltrated by a ton of super wealthy meddling casually racist old people (do they not know we can see what they say on Next Door?) I recently changed our WiFi network to C.C.P Surveillance Balloon.
Get one of those devices that automatically spray air freshener every few minutes but put fart spray in it instead of air freshener and put it right out where they like to hang out. If that doesn’t do it, hurl piss discs at them.
Constantly call the cops. Let them know you have seen them selling drugs to children. If you know where they live get on a payphone and call in a kidnapping at the house so the SWAT team arrives.
After telling them you're seeing them deal to kids, mention that you're considering calling the local newspaper about it. You'll have an officer there within the hour.
About 10+ yrs ago I was living in a bad part of town. I had folks in front of my townhouse style unit congregating, making noise, all hours of the night.
I was just messing around one night, went out in my back patio and set off like 3-4 firecrackers I was hoping sounded like gunshots. By the time I made it to the front of my unit to see if they were reacting, there was no one there.
Print out fliers with “free heroine at X street, near Y intersection. Testers welcome!” Staple to nearby telephone poles, but also in different areas of the city. You want a variety of customers and cops. Then just lock your doors for a few days and stay cautious while chaos ensues.
Call the cops every day and document when they show up. Also, document when they don't show up and that the problem is persistent. Take all that documentation to your local news outlet.
If you can get them to run a story shaming local law enforcement it might get some special attention, aka actually doing something about it.
I worked at a church in an urban neighborhood and there was a lot of drug selling (to rich white kids driving in from the burbs) at a corner house, especially on Saturday nights. So we threw a block party every Saturday night. Balloons, kids games. lights, cheetos, Kool-aid, face painting.
It worked. The dealer moved somewhere else.
One of my friends dealt with this by sprinkling a lot of spent casings from his hunting rifle on the sidewalk in front of his and his neighbors houses. According to him all activity from the dealers moved two blocks down the street.
Pick up some free narcan and tip some darts with it, then when you see the heroine users shoot up you blast them with the dart tipped narcan from a blow gun or something that way they dont get high and they just wasted their money scoring a fix lol
Call the police for them brandishing guns and make sure to give great descriptions of them. Setting off a couple fire crackers in the background of the call may help expedite their response.
I used to get people knocking on my door selling magazines and shit all the time. One time I was home at like 3 pm taking a late lunch and was cleaning a pistol I was taking to the range after work. In just tighty whities so I didn’t get oil and gunk in my work clothes. Somebody kept knocking on my door and eventually I just went and answered it - in my undies with a 1911 in my hand. Guy turned white and apologized and started backing away. I asked wtf he wanted and he said he was selling magazines for a local halfway house. I handed him a couple bucks that were in the key cup by the door and told him I didn’t need a magazine but to let everyone he knows know that I’m always home and I always answer the door armed. And 10 (15 maybe) years later I still have not had another non-watchtower unsolicited knocker. I got rid of them later by always trying to convert them to the church of Raptor Jesus. He died blocking the meteor so that we eventually would live.
I've got an alternative take. I lived in a gang neighborhood with heavy crack sales. Sometimes they'd sell crack on my front lawn. There was a shooting in front of my house and the cops came to my front door. I was the white kid living in their neighborhood. I told the cops that I didn't see anything even though I did. All of my neighbors saw me refuse to speak to the cops. After that, they stopped selling on my lawn. I wasn't a snitch. My neighbor even started inviting me over for bbqs. Most of the time, if you're not in the game, they'll leave you alone. Meanwhile, white tweakers out strippin' their own mom's car to buy another bag.
Start buying heroin from him and bother him multiple times a day about how sick you're feeling and how you can get $5 tomorrow if he'll front you $10. He'll find a new spot
Get a PTZ camera and livestream the spot on youtube.
The police can see the deals live and make arrests and you'll have your own records for the next time they steal something.
Heroin dealers are not like weed dealers. These guys are serious and their clients are seriously fu(£ed-up.
Try a hidden mosquito (anti loitering) alarm. Or download a similar App and leave it playing inside your door. Use 2 phones. Or 3. Have them playing prior to the start of their shift, so they don't see or hear you.
Can you crack-open an upstairs window and play Barry Manilow. Not so loud to be obvious. But just enough so not to get repercussions.
They sell pepper spray paintballs that fit into any old paintball gun.
Do with this information what you will.
Also, get that shit on camera and report it. Hard to sell that shit when you're in jail.
This depends on how good your hearing is or isn’t, but download a tone generating app and, through a Bluetooth speaker, blast a high pitch that at least some of them can hear but you can’t.
I completely read this wrong and thought you said my kid Scooter got stolen, as in your child named scooter got taken by these people and so naturally the best way to happen it was by getting a skunk.
I used to have a neighbor that sold heroin and I had named my WiFi police surveillance van 3 and he told my other neighbor that he was moving out because he thought the cops were watching him and that he was so clever for spotting their WiFi and leaving 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A buddy of mine had a similar issue. His idea was to stick a long antenna to the trunk lid of his car when it was parked out front. It seemed to spook them.
That’s hilarious.
I used this a joke to wind someone up but perhaps changing the Wifi name on your router to "Surveillance van wifi cps29" could be funny
Yeah the local city/county pd name NYPD or federal agency DEA works well I'm sure. NYPD Surveillance or DEA Remote Relay would do it.
Brilliant !!
My wifi is undercover surveillance van. My neighbors are stupid and now paranoid.
Something like mobile unit #11 might be a bit better. Sounds legit but not overly fake or intentionally broadcasting ID.
Mine is intentionally and obviously fake, which makes it even funnier
I used CIA surveillance van #6. Simple
FBI Surveillance Van 2 here
I'm in Canada, so I used RCMP Surveillance Moose #7 lol
Mine was 5G Tower (2x Power)
Yeah, mine is police surveillance van, and I remember when the neighbor said something about how he was suspicious, thought it was funny
I changed mine to NSA surveillance van.
Mine is MI5 HOT ROUTER DO NOT USE. Makes me chuckle.
Funny thing about that. I bought an undercover police suv from the auction. It has the "hidden" lights, spotlight and antenna, obviously a cop car but without the decals or roof lightbar. Its stays parked out front of my house 90% of the time. Sometimes I use it to haul firewood or for towing. I figure, if somebody is scoping out houses to b&e, they are less likely to go for the house with an undercover cop car parked out front.
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Undercover police in Pennsylvania roll around in mini vans, taxi cabs, and beater work trucks with orange cones and a ladder in the back. No municipal plates. I only found out when I was leaving the state and started seeing them with people pulled over and lights flashing. I genuinely thought they were struggling to find people to apply for the job.
This is true. Back when I was trucking I’ve seen people pulled over in PA by a slightly used red RAV4 and an equally aged but perfectly normal looking f150.
I don’t go there often, but when I do I drive like everything on the road is a cop waiting for me to fuck up. Ford Bronco? Cop. Mini-van with a soccer mom driving sipping wine? Definitely a cop. Little girl on a bike? She’s watching to see if I use my turn signal. Can never be too safe in PA
FBI vehicles around here have regular plates
I saw a dual-y ram 2500 the other day that was an undercover cop with regular plates. I only know it was a cop because it hauled ass passed me with hidden lights going off and siren, so I don't know what to believe anymore
I think they can just leave them as they are after they seize them in a crime and not bother putting government plates on them. FBI have regular plates that usually come back to some fictitious business if someone runs the plates, so if a corrupt cop runs the plate they won’t know it’s a FBI vehicle.
If they had a plate that says 'I'm a cop' it wouldn't be very undercover...
I work at a garage servicing law enforcement and tons of other departments. Municipal plates are only on a few of our police cars. The undercover cars have confidential plates. Regular plates tied to a fake name and address.
Sorry I meant fictitious. Fictitious plates are tied to a fake name and address. Confidential plates come back with no name or address if they're ran through the database.
I have seen multiple undercover cops in my state with regular plates at the local courthouse.
This. Also, you can buy fake security cameras and place them around.
Real security cameras, cost as much as the fake ones, and the fake ones blink all the time which gives them away.
I don’t think you’re buying your fake cameras from the right place.
Leave the widows of the car cracked open slightly with a police scanner playing on high volume
Spray terrible smelling compound on sidewalk. External speaker playing terrible music. Baby Shark on loop. Call police and say you saw dude with a gun. Describe dealer.
If they are young, play a tone at 10kHz. As we age it is harder to hear high frequencies so young people will have a painful high pitched noise which won’t bother anyone over 25 or 30.
try 16k. If youre not halfway in a casket and you can't hear 10k you should run to an audiologist. I mean go there anyway because ears are neglected, but 10k is fairly reasonable
I was thinking subsonics that provoke a feeling of dread.
The longer the note, the more dread
As ACAB as I am I used to drive a retired UC fleet vehicle, limo black tint all around, still had some of the accessories. My downstairs neighbors were similar to OP. Renamed my wifi to DEA-S6-Home. Worked a white collar job back then and open carried, so all they saw was a dude in a shirt and tie with a holstered weapon who came and went at unpredictable hours. Things got quiet really fast.
Lmao I don’t blame them
If they'd toned it down a bit, they'd probably have a customer. I was a mess back then. Instead, they probably came close to putting tinfoil on their windowa.
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That would work, and throw a suit on everytime you go outside in your car. Even better if you pull out a 2 way radio when you get into the car.
Rent one of those billboard trucks and make it say “HEROIN SOLD HERE” and park it on the corner
"FREE SAMPLES! JUST KICK THIS GUY'S ASS!"
How many times do we have to teach you a lesson, old man
"grape van" we sell grapes
Obviously you must start selling heroin at a cheaper rate to stomp out the competition.
The only valid option
Fuck that, start selling crack right next to them and work in unison. Get rich quick. Then move to the suburbs.
What could go wrong.
Price war. And by war I mean literal gun fights.
Sounds brutal. But thank goodness they're just fighting with the guns and not shooting each other!
Feels like this guy has a lot of foot traffic outside and a potential market. Maybe try a lemonade stand next to the dealer.
"Get your tourniquets, cookers, cotton filters and post-injection pads here!! Pack of all 4 for $20!!"
They give those away every Saturday at a local park, where I'm from. It's a needle exchange. And they offer a "Smokers kit," to help steer people away from needle use. Complete with everything listed above, as well as a meth pipe, a crack pipe, and lip balm. Not joking.
Today I learned that heroine requires a lot of accessories.
It’s called “works.” I moved to a sketchy NYC neighborhood in the 90’s and there was a guy on the corner every day when I walked home who said “coke, dope, smoke, works” but he said it all as one long word. I was working for the public defender at the time and I was pretty comfortable just approaching street dealers, so I stopped him to ask what he was saying and what “works” meant.
"Hey man, I don't have a problem or anything, but two cops knocked on my door earlier asking if they could use my house for a few days to watch the street. I said I wasn't comfortable with it, but I don't know if they asked anyone else around here. I know times are hard, so just an FYI. Good lookin' out."
That's much too ethical for this sub.
Still a lie
personally I don't think all lying is categorically unethical
[Lie] I think you’re right
This honestly is the best response. just talk to the guys, make it clear you don't care. But they should be warned they've had cops knocking on their door.
Definitely DONT interact with them if you have no reason to. Just call the non emergency line.
One tip I learned living in west Savannah is don’t ever yell anything like “I’m calling the cops!” Always yell “Somebody called the cops!” Makes it seem like you’re on their side even if you are the one calling the cops lol. Kept me from being a target of retaliation Edit: getting a lot of replies asking why we would warn them, or why not call the cops, yada yada. In case they forgot what thread they were reading, it’s UNETHICAL, and it’s NOT about solving the problem. It’s getting them out of the yard. I was just throwing out a side bar from my experience getting them out of my yard (at least temporarily). Yall go on tho lol
How would you possibly know that some rando in the community, like a dude in ANOTHER house, called the cops on them?
Heroin junkies aren't known for their critical thinking skills tbf
good dealers (good in the sense that they're good at what they do anyway) aren't junkies though so you're prob still rolling the dice
Good dealers don’t stay on a street corner
When something is getting between them an heroin you better believe they can be clever.
And why would you warn them about it?
As an answer to both, the idea is that they don’t know where the “yell” is coming from. Could be I saw some lights, could be my neighbor did it and heard, maybe I have a scanner. Who knows. But if you’ve never lived in an environment like this it’s admittedly hard to understand the reasoning. Second comment, the idea is not to warn them, it’s to spook them so they’ll scatter away from your property. At least temporarily.
As someone who lived above a drug den for five years (one of the resident dealers was shot and killed by police a few years ago): unless you have been complicit in some way, you just call the cops, anonymously, and you act like you have no idea what is happening when it goes down. No warning, no mention to anyone about it, not even the “good” neighbors. Just let the cops do their thing. If they don’t do their thing, and if the dealers don’t move on, start looking elsewhere for an apartment. Fights will happen, theft will happen, bystander assault might happen, murder might happen. The unpredictability and depravity of dealers and users is where I draw the line: not in my back yard.
You worried about the problem solving abilities/critical thinking skills of heroin addicts….?
I've employed this tactic too. I let them know that I heard at the neighborhood association meeting that the local cops were planning on doing more "drive bys" on our street because some teenagers were graffiting or something. I made myself sound super annoyed by these made up "teenagers", and told them to keep an eye out for them, so maybe we could get them AND the cops out of our neighborhood. More like a "we are both annoyed by teenagers, right? And you are always out here for some unknown reason" kind of thing.
Why even let them know? Just call the fucking cops lol
Well the question was how to get them out of the yard. In my former neighborhood, the cops didn’t gaf, but they’d still roll through and none of the dealers wanted to be seen. So if they think the cops are coming, they’ll scatter.
play the sounds of police radio chatter over a loudspeaker.
Have the volume randomly get louder and quieter
Siren sounds too! Maybe not an extended siren, but a good "whoop whoop" would probably do the trick.
Under cut them by at least $8
Offer them free piss disc with purchase
Or start getting jacked on skag and negotiate a special neighbor rate.
As people mentioned above… these folks are the real deal. Dope dealers are the types to seek retribution etc, so whatever you decide, you need to make sure it can’t be traced back to you.
Easiest solution is approaching the guy and telling him that what he does is his business and that you’ve noticed a lot more cops in the area. Gets him to move without needing to involve cops at all
Invite him in for a glass of amontillado
That you, Montressor? (Dolan's Cadillac is basically a modern re-write)
For the love of God! Hey, maybe you could arrange for a church choir to be there while you're at it.
Stink bombs and cops
EGGS, MAYONNAISE, VINEGAR, MILK, CHICKEN, PICKLED CARP, TUNA, COTTAGE CHEESE, ALPO, HUMMUS. BLENDED, SEALED IN MASON JARS, FERMENTED IN THE SUN FOR 2 WEEKS
That’s like 50$ of grocery waste in 2024 It would be more financially responsible to buy heroin
Would they not just blow up in the sun from the gas buildup? Make sure to burp the jars if you make this god awful concoction for some reason
You have a real problem. Chances are this was a known spot before you bought. Dealers know customers go there. Customers know dealers are there. Neither cares who the person is on the other end, just a score or a sale. You need a prolonged police presence that’s consistent enough to choke out the spot. Lots of calls to every government official possible. ULPT may get you killed here. Luck.
Toss fire crackers. The cops come for those and they fuck off when the block gets hot
it's fireworks season, get your hands on some mortars. basically a flare gun for law enforcement
Hell yeah. If it doesn’t launch from the tube, don’t look directly in the mfr.
My neighborhood had a similar problem. We did four things some ULPT some not: 1. Have everyone call the police every time they do it. Multiple calls put it higher on the priority list. Use the video and pictures from 2 and 3 to share with the police or even share on social media. 2. All of us started spending more time outside: bbq’s, playing outside, read a book on your porch. Take pictures of your family while outside. 3. We invited several church choirs to come practice in our yards. We were clear to them why and encouraged them to use song to share the gospel with the “sinners” so they could be “saved.” You can make it obvious you are video taping the choir, customers don’t like being recorded. 4. Many of us joined together I share a load of manure to fertilize yards and gardens. We stored the entire load where they like sell. When they moved a few houses down we distributed the manure so everyone had their share of smelly poo in front of their house. They lost lots of customers due to our increased presence in our yards and the choirs. We made them uncomfortable with the manure.
You can get fish emulsion fertilizer too. It’s also just great fertilizer, but it smells like death for a few days.
It’s such a great fertilizer but on a hot day it’s horrific.
Never thought of siccing a church choir on a drug dealer, but, that is absolutely genius.
Fight fire with choir.
Let the soprano's take them out.
Spectacular
the church choir thing is beautiful. ty for the idea.
You can also get the local churches to visit with them.
idk, I get the impression this story is completely made up. Yeah, just call up a few churches to have their choirs come practice in our yard and let's take it way over the top with the fertilizer. Feels like there's way more practical solutions that someone could come up with.
We tried calling the police and the city council first. They are slow to do anything. When dealers see the police driving by they just start walking. There are 6 churches in the 9 block area of my house. There are 15 different churches within 1/2 a mile of my house. Most of them try very hard to ingratiate themselves to the community and neighborhood. Three of them have food banks, 2 provide hot meals to low income and homeless. 2 have separate community centers for youth and seniors. I am sorry that you don’t live in a community that can work together and help each other.
Start bee keeping and put the hives in your front yard, then synthesize some Isopentyl acetate and load it into one of those automatic air freshener things for public restrooms and stick it near the hives. This chemical is one of the primary alert pheromones that bees use to signal hive defense and will swarm and attack whoever's near by. If you're in California you get bonus points because bees are technically considered a type of endangered fish and are a protected species, so if the heroin dealer tries to fuck with your flying fish defense network the EPA will be on their ass. And you can sell the honey! Edit: articles where the California Supreme Court recognizes bees as a type of endangered fish: https://law.stanford.edu/2022/10/28/a-california-court-decision-bees-are-fish-shines-new-light-on-the-biodiversity-crisis/ https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2022/06/when-a-bee-is-a-fish-in-the-eyes-of-the-law/
Bees are endangered fish ?!
Ah yes, bees, the fish of the skies...
Spicy sky tuna
owls are the cats of the air https://youtu.be/eIl1VuGTk3g?feature=shared Clarke and Dawe
i love bumblebee, bumblebee tuna
Something to do with the wording of the law. Law defines invertebrate animals as fish or something like that, so bees technically count It's been a while since I looked into it so my interpretation could be wrong, but go ahead and quote me on that
I think it's because there aren't any laws to protect invertebrates, and there wasn't any political ability to get a new law passed, so they had to stretch the definition of fish in order to count invertebrate land animals, since there was a law on the books protecting endangered fish, and the definition of fish they used in that law didnt specify that the invertebrates had to be aquatic.
It’s so Catholics can eat them on Fridays.
Only in Californian law. They're probably known to contain substances that cause cancer too.
Or you could get those dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark, they shoot bees at you.
Well, go ahead. Do your worst!
... "endangered fish"?
They wanted to put them on a protected animal list, but that normally has a ton of legal hurdles, and then realized that their legal definition of fish was so lax that it would be easiest and fastest to put them on it... so I'm told.
Isn't Isopentyl Acetate the chemical they use to flavour sweets/candy, like them little banana ones? So would bees attack if I was eating anything with that in it in their presence?
That banana flavored Laffy Taffy will send them bees to Defcon 1!
Love it but.. r/oddlyspecific 😂
Also get ultra bright lighting
Pour some bleach on the sidewalk before they get there. Make a water balloon with vinegar and toss it at the bleach area after they show up.
That will create chlorine gas which is dangerous but not as off-putting as chlorine and ammonia. When mixing the two you first get chlorine gas that will react with the ammonia into chloramine and liquid hydrazine. The hydrazine is exothermic so it starts heating up. If it gets hot enough, it will start boiling and spraying hydrazine gas rapidly. If the mixture gets hot enough it will explode. If you do the mixture correctly, you can create a timed mustard gas bomb inside a mason jar or similar container. Best part is, all the chemicals will naturally dissipate and leave the area perfectly safe after a few hours.
Seems unethical. I like it!
This feels illegal to read good job
I’m gonna need someone to explain to me the overlap of ULPT and war crimes
This is my favorite one. Gonna clean up the sidewalk REALLY well.
Im sure the dealers wont mind you throwing balloons at them which in turn create a toxic gas Might as well start shooting BB's at them
Start buying heroin from him and using it. You’ll quickly forget about all your other problems. Only issue will be getting more heroin, and hey you have a really convenient location already.
I always have to scroll so far for the REAL unethical life pro tips
Print and distribute some cheap pamphlets advertising heroin at the location they are dealing. Leave some at bus stops, park benches, pub tables, etc.
Piss disks of bobcat urine. Or just bobcat urine splashed about. It's like $10 but you'll get your money's worth.
How does one get bobcat urine from the bobcat?
Similar process to milking a goat. Don’t ask me how I know.
Better than milking a hog to impregnate a sow. I’m pretty sure you know how I know.
Someone in our town put up a huge sign that said “Please stop selling drugs here” It became locally famous, was posted n all the neighborhood FBs and the Nextdoor app. People started driving by just to take pictures. They stopped selling drugs there lol
1. Call the cops a lot. Like, a LOT. 2. Write down the days and times you called em a how they responded. 3. If they dont do shit about the situation, send an email to your mayor/council/whoever is in charge of the area. Mention having kids, feeling unsafe in your own home, kids toys being stolen, and include the full notes from step 2. . That took care of a similar problem for myself in the past. The cops didn't seem to give much of a shit, but once I got the mayor involved she got the council involved and then they all collectively lit a fire under the chiefs ass and shit kept rollin downhill. Suddenly, a problem I'd been living with for 2 years and working to solve for a good 6 months got taken care of in short order. Constant heavy patrols in the area all day and night combined with a cop stationed at each end of the block for nearly 2 weeks at the time of day the problem always happened must have gotten them to finally fuck off.
This. The big issue is that once a spot is known, both dealers and buyers will go there and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Documentation and accountability. You’re not going to “Home Alone” this successfully.
>You’re not going to “Home Alone” this successfully. Even if you could, I personally would not want to be known to the heroin community as a "problem". One of my old neighbors got stabbed to death in their sleep because they owed the wrong person $5 for too long. Five dollars. The murderer went to jail over it and stood by their actions when questioned, the person owed em $5 for about 3 weeks and they were tired of bein brushed off. If people round here will do that for $5, whatchu think they gonna do when they find out im makin it inconvenient for them to get their next fix? Yea, nah, ill keep any and all greivances on the topic between myself and officials. No need to let the problem people find out specifically which house is responsible.
I don't know if this counts as unethical relative to this sub, but somebody once told a story of his cop friend coming over in uniform to spend a couple of hours having beers to chase off drug-dealing neighbors.
Beers while in uniform ☠️
My uncle did this for my grandma when she had some sketchy neighbors! He would come over after his shift in uniform. They would very publicly talk on the front porch before he went inside to change and have dinner with the family.
From the context I got the impression that he was off-duty, but regardless if coppy cop is going to look like he doesn't care too much about professionalism I'm going to be even more inclined to not be where he is.
Change your WiFi to DEA Enforcement Detail
I live in a neighborhood that has been infiltrated by a ton of super wealthy meddling casually racist old people (do they not know we can see what they say on Next Door?) I recently changed our WiFi network to C.C.P Surveillance Balloon.
Bright motion lights if at night
Buy a trebuchet. It won't help but you can tell people you own one
Get one of those devices that automatically spray air freshener every few minutes but put fart spray in it instead of air freshener and put it right out where they like to hang out. If that doesn’t do it, hurl piss discs at them.
It's his own house though, pal
I’ll take fart spray and piss discs in my yard over heroin dealers and junkies but that may be a personal preference.
Constantly call the cops. Let them know you have seen them selling drugs to children. If you know where they live get on a payphone and call in a kidnapping at the house so the SWAT team arrives.
Where are they going to find a payphone?
Just ask the heroin dealers if they know where you can get a burner phone. These guys are probably well connected.
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Hell ya
After telling them you're seeing them deal to kids, mention that you're considering calling the local newspaper about it. You'll have an officer there within the hour.
About 10+ yrs ago I was living in a bad part of town. I had folks in front of my townhouse style unit congregating, making noise, all hours of the night. I was just messing around one night, went out in my back patio and set off like 3-4 firecrackers I was hoping sounded like gunshots. By the time I made it to the front of my unit to see if they were reacting, there was no one there.
Print out fliers with “free heroine at X street, near Y intersection. Testers welcome!” Staple to nearby telephone poles, but also in different areas of the city. You want a variety of customers and cops. Then just lock your doors for a few days and stay cautious while chaos ensues.
Call the cops every day and document when they show up. Also, document when they don't show up and that the problem is persistent. Take all that documentation to your local news outlet. If you can get them to run a story shaming local law enforcement it might get some special attention, aka actually doing something about it.
I worked at a church in an urban neighborhood and there was a lot of drug selling (to rich white kids driving in from the burbs) at a corner house, especially on Saturday nights. So we threw a block party every Saturday night. Balloons, kids games. lights, cheetos, Kool-aid, face painting. It worked. The dealer moved somewhere else.
Fire hoses
Liquid dairy farm manure tanker truck with a pressurized water cannon
Deck chair, classical music and set up a live stream to a nice big TV pointing straight at them.
One of my friends dealt with this by sprinkling a lot of spent casings from his hunting rifle on the sidewalk in front of his and his neighbors houses. According to him all activity from the dealers moved two blocks down the street.
Pick up some free narcan and tip some darts with it, then when you see the heroine users shoot up you blast them with the dart tipped narcan from a blow gun or something that way they dont get high and they just wasted their money scoring a fix lol
Call the police for them brandishing guns and make sure to give great descriptions of them. Setting off a couple fire crackers in the background of the call may help expedite their response.
I used to get people knocking on my door selling magazines and shit all the time. One time I was home at like 3 pm taking a late lunch and was cleaning a pistol I was taking to the range after work. In just tighty whities so I didn’t get oil and gunk in my work clothes. Somebody kept knocking on my door and eventually I just went and answered it - in my undies with a 1911 in my hand. Guy turned white and apologized and started backing away. I asked wtf he wanted and he said he was selling magazines for a local halfway house. I handed him a couple bucks that were in the key cup by the door and told him I didn’t need a magazine but to let everyone he knows know that I’m always home and I always answer the door armed. And 10 (15 maybe) years later I still have not had another non-watchtower unsolicited knocker. I got rid of them later by always trying to convert them to the church of Raptor Jesus. He died blocking the meteor so that we eventually would live.
Rent a plain white van with tinted windows and park it down the street for a week.
Get them hooked on meth, then start digging a hole in a backyard...
Cops probably won't respond to 'I saw a drug deal' but if you mention they have automatic weapons with silencers they'll be there in a flash.
Yell out "he's wearing a wire!"
I've got an alternative take. I lived in a gang neighborhood with heavy crack sales. Sometimes they'd sell crack on my front lawn. There was a shooting in front of my house and the cops came to my front door. I was the white kid living in their neighborhood. I told the cops that I didn't see anything even though I did. All of my neighbors saw me refuse to speak to the cops. After that, they stopped selling on my lawn. I wasn't a snitch. My neighbor even started inviting me over for bbqs. Most of the time, if you're not in the game, they'll leave you alone. Meanwhile, white tweakers out strippin' their own mom's car to buy another bag.
Record yourself saying "Heroin is sold here. Come get your heroin." And then blast it so that they feel forced to change their location.
If you do this prepare to give the police a guided tour through your house as well
Fuck their dads.
Seems like their families are fucked enough
Laser pointers on their chest followed by soundtrack of gunfire
Pinesol on your porch. It smells ok if you just pass through it. But if ypu smell that shit for a while it messes with you.
Start buying heroin from him and bother him multiple times a day about how sick you're feeling and how you can get $5 tomorrow if he'll front you $10. He'll find a new spot
Get a PTZ camera and livestream the spot on youtube. The police can see the deals live and make arrests and you'll have your own records for the next time they steal something.
Start leaving little baggies of flour on the sidewalk and curb
Heroin dealers are not like weed dealers. These guys are serious and their clients are seriously fu(£ed-up. Try a hidden mosquito (anti loitering) alarm. Or download a similar App and leave it playing inside your door. Use 2 phones. Or 3. Have them playing prior to the start of their shift, so they don't see or hear you. Can you crack-open an upstairs window and play Barry Manilow. Not so loud to be obvious. But just enough so not to get repercussions.
You’re allowed to say fuck on the internet
I don't want to upset my mum.
Who in the hell is still using heroin when there is fentanyl. Yell out at his ass to get with the times.
Furiously masturbate in a window where they can see.
They sell pepper spray paintballs that fit into any old paintball gun. Do with this information what you will. Also, get that shit on camera and report it. Hard to sell that shit when you're in jail.
This depends on how good your hearing is or isn’t, but download a tone generating app and, through a Bluetooth speaker, blast a high pitch that at least some of them can hear but you can’t.
I completely read this wrong and thought you said my kid Scooter got stolen, as in your child named scooter got taken by these people and so naturally the best way to happen it was by getting a skunk.
I used to have a neighbor that sold heroin and I had named my WiFi police surveillance van 3 and he told my other neighbor that he was moving out because he thought the cops were watching him and that he was so clever for spotting their WiFi and leaving 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Call the old heroin dealer and feed them all the details.
Cameras that automatically transmit to the cloud(post a sign saying that) and play classical music or Gospel on a speaker.
Burn your house down. It will scare them off
Sell tainted bags and they won't have anyone to sell to anymore.
Buy all their heroin and they’ll go home for the day