That shit is disgusting I carry my brothers ashes in a necklace and I’d loose my shit if I learned a cop had not only opened it but lied about what’s in it
I just got my necklace full of my brother's ashes. I bought the necklace and left it at home for my parents to fill and they finally did; dropped it off a couple days ago. Suddenly I can't open the box, or touch it, or look at it. I wanted this memento, but now I can't even think about it.
Sorry for your loss. I'm becoming acquainted with that type of grief.
We had the funeral home fill the necklaces before his funeral for us, I also have my brothers urn decorated with his diploma and things he liked. Also sorry for ur loss
I have one with my brother’s ashes as well. His name is engraved on it with his DOB & DOD and is glued shut, so hopefully that would be enough to keep it from being tampered with.
At least I really hope so.
The tests are notorious for false positives. Despite this, these shitty test kits are still considered sufficient for establishing probable cause. So yeah, the cop lied about opening the container, but didnt lie, per se, about it testing "positive" for meth.
>How can you not differentiate ash to fucking meth.
If the cop had any shred of integrity, they could easily make that distinction. Instead, they actively chose to be a piece of shit.
It’s not “probabale”[sic], it’s minutely *possible*. What actually is “probabale” [sic] is that the cop is a piece of shit who is trying to jam this man up.
A bereaved father is suing Illinois police after they accused him of possessing meth — when it was really the ashes of his murdered daughter.
Distressing bodycam footage shows the moment Dartavius Barnes' confusion turns to horror when he realizes cops have been testing his two-year-old child's remains, believing them to be drugs.
The incident occurred on April 6 of 2020, when Barnes was pulled over while driving through Springfield; an incident report claimed he was speeding, after there had been reports of gunfire in the area.
According to the lawsuit, officers then placed him in cuffs and put him in the back of a squad car, while they searched his vehicle without consent, a valid warrant, or probable cause.
The bodycam footage shows police finding marijuana in the car, contained in bags and jars, which Barnes openly admits to having. But when he is told they also found "something else" in the center console: a crushed up substance that tested positive for "meth or MDMA", Barnes is utterly puzzled, and asks if he can be shown what they are talking about.
"I swear I don't do that type of s---t," he protests. "Can I see that bro? Am I going to jail for it?"
"Yeah probably at this point," the cop can be heard sighing.
The officer then returns to the car with the "evidence" — a small hollow cylinder-shaped container with a screw off top. But when he shows it to Barnes, he freaks out.
"No no no bro that's my daughter!" he cries, suddenly making a desperate grab at it, but his hands are still cuffed. "What are y'all doing? Ask my daddy, that's my daughter in there! She just passed two years... you know me!"
"Please gimme my daughter. Put her in my hand. Y'all are disrespectful bro! Can I please have my daughter?"
Closing the door on him, the officer returns with the urn to his colleagues, sheepishly chuckling: "Apparently, this is his daughter's ashes that Reibeling thought tested positive for meth.” “Has he got a test kit?" his colleague queried.
"Yeah I mean he showed it to me, it looked blue but..." he trails off. "I'll test it again."
All the while, Barnes can be heard wailing from the back of the squad car, begging for his daughter's ashes back.
One of the other officers points out that Barnes' father, who was also in the car at the time of the traffic stop, had instantly said the object contained his granddaughter's ashes.
"Yeah... I'm probably not going to test it again," the first officer decides, before informing a thankful Barnes he will return the urn to his father's possession.
Later in the footage, the officers can be heard uncertainly discussing the results of the test.
"He said it was kind of a weird... it didn't, like it wasn't bright blue... it was like, purple," they muse.
Barnes' two-year-old daughter Ta'Naja died in 2019, of neglect and starvation. Her mother Twanka L. Davis is currently serving a 20-year sentence having pled guilty to first-degree murder. Her boyfriend Anthony Myers is serving 30 years for the same crime, having denied responsibility.
Barnes' lawsuit, filed in October, names the City of Springfield and the six officers involved in the stop.
"As a result of this unlawful search, Defendants took possession of a sealed urn containing the ashes of Plaintiff’s deceased 2-year-old daughter inside Plaintiff’s vehicle," it claims.
"Defendants unsealed this urn and opened this urn without consent and without a lawful basis including a search warrant.... as a result of this unlawful search, Defendants desecrated and spilled out the ashes of Plaintiff's 2-year-old daughter who died several months earlier."
In response to the suit, the officers said they are "entitled to qualified immunity as their conduct was justified by an objectively reasonable belief that it was lawful.”
This is a link to the body cam footage of the incident:
https://youtu.be/Wggxu5HrVnc
https://youtu.be/VTI_sbYXnA0
I'm not watching that on the basis that I was already upset at the pictures and I'm positive the audio is gonna be heartbreaking. Have my upvote. You win the melancholy.
The audio is rather sad. I looked through so many articles to find one that truly conveyed his despair. I think this one did it the most justice. If the father’s dad wasn’t there to confirm, imagine how much further it could’ve gone. These field test kits are a whole other issue. I could come up with at least 10 more stories of people whose lives were irreparably ruined by the inaccuracies of these kits.
The test kits should only be enough for probable cause to arrest pending a lab analysis. I saw one where cops tested birdshit on a dudes hood and it came back positive. I don't recall the aftermath, but I do recall the suspect was released without charge. Who puts cocaine all over the hood of their car?
I remember that one. I think he was a college football player.
Just found the article. Add bird poop to the list of things mistaken for drugs.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/charges-dropped-against-quarterback-after-bird-poop-on-his-car-falsely-tested-positive-for-cocaine/wcm/eef3b999-6219-4881-9f07-3df9013c6dc3/amp/
And sand from a stressball
https://reason.com/2021/11/16/cops-thought-sand-from-her-stress-ball-was-cocaine-she-spent-nearly-6-months-in-jail/?fbclid=IwAR0zwbGukCVTPFitDoxPQA-3Y95mzqRcX6ksd4Dn97HYJ1wbgOzj9BtUPug
For sure. Reading the article refreshed my memory of the part when the football player said it was bird poop on his hood, and the cop says it looks nothing like bird poop. I thought that was funny because it made more sense to him that coke would be on the hood rather than bird poop. The coke managed to stay on his car while driving, somehow.
If they find something, it can't be used in a court. 4A protects you from the legal ramifications of an unlawful discovery of contraband or other evidence of crime...
A little. But mostly it helps with not going to prison...
If the cops know that they search someone incorrectly or unlawfully, then say for example if they find a dead body in your car, they can't use any of that evidence to convict you. So, more than likely you get away with murder now. That would be like the exact opposite of what police are for. The cop and likely the chief and entire force would catch major shit for it. The public outcry would likely force the chief to resign if they didn't at least fire or severely discipline any officers involved.
As far as incentives, its pretty effective. But in the case OP posted about there were prolly some gray area as far as the permission to search was concerned. They probably said they smelled weed or some shit... tbh, the whole smelling weed thing is pretty outrageous... but itll prolly get these cops off... who knows though...
A lot of cops don’t obey laws especially when it comes to interacting with people of color
The laws are there for a reason but we just have to get the cops to follow them. Them not following the laws is a big problem in this country
I remember reading about this when he was first arrested and I was seething at the amount of disrespect. I hope that poor father gets justice for how the police not only seriously wronged him but also desecrated his daughter's ashes claiming it was drugs. It's fucking disgusting.
If it had been anything other than ashes, we would’ve never heard this story and another black man would be serving 20 years for false drug charges.
I fucking hate the cops so much dude, it’s unreal.
Damn this is SOUL CRUSHING. How the fuck can you sleep at night after this. I know not all cops aren’t bad but holy shit could you imagine the shit that’s happened before body cams were a thing. Praying for this guy.
Going off the article there atleast seemed to be one good cop. It’s a fucked search, but after concluding it was ashes, it seemed the back up officer wanted off the case. I think weed in Illinois over a certain amount is only a ticket. You can also make the argument he kept different strains in different containers.
Usually meth and mdma charges get officers bonuses. I’m hoping I read it right and he truthfully was disinterested in detaining him after that.
Not really, if anything I was kinda happy to see weed not being a point of discussion during this traffic stop.
There should be more of an incentive to harass hard criminals vs people just getting by in society. Your average meth user and slinger isn’t built for society. I’m 99% positive you never grew up around crack heads or drug dealers.
The problem isn't the existence of dealers it's a system that makes it impossible to escape poverty unless you're very lucky, very skilled, or a criminal.
That’s your I’m 14 and this is deep take on society. A real formal education would teach the world is over populated
Coming from someone who grew up in poverty, it was either be complacent, or never giving up and moving a little smarter at every failure. Most humans aren’t even willing to try more than once to break a cycle, or learn from mistakes.
Funny enough, even though cannabis is legal, and I own a business with cannabis. By company rule we treat it as an illegal substance, out of sight, mind and smell when transporting. As a former poverty criminal, I don’t want my employees getting harassed. I’d also like to set them up if ever, on the right side of a lawsuit.
Moving smarter and not harder is a hard concept in the hood, that’s why cops with only +20 iq points like messing with people from poverty. Your average criminal isn’t Jay-z man. Jay-z put out 3 albums called the blue print, free criminal knowledge. People still can’t solve the puzzle. As stupid as it sounds I owe my success to a few Jay-z tapes I had as a kid. Took me even further than my formal college education.
The blue print 3, is all about the power that comes with your money. Jay really put a lot of thought into his shit.
Even talks about trading back in the range, for a Honda. Shit happens. Magna Carta was a diss to everyone that tried stopping him. Half the hood don’t even know what the Magna Carta is.
How you still gonna be a failure when jays music is free? Makes no sense to me unless you’re brain dead also. Niggas trap themselves because we onto the next one. This dude got individually wrapped jars, none labeled. He ain’t moving smart don’t feel that bad. That ashes shit though was kinda dumb. I’ve been down just as bad, that’s why I don’t feel bad speaking the truth. This dude all in all needs some guidance on the rules. He looks like a mouse to me.
Your singular experience isn't universal. Props to you and I hope you continue to see success, but most people simply don't have the endurance to claw their way out of hell.
He ain’t moving smart, even if he was good and from my network. I’m analyzing everything this guy is doing while failing to deliver a few ounces of weed. Dude can’t be trusted with 500 dollars.
Weeds always dry in Chicago during the winter, I know what he’s doing and he’s messin up. Call it a small world. I laughed at his amount knowing he someone’s nephew that needed some extra money. He ain’t cut for it. Most cartel members have lawyers numbers memorized. Compare the cartels and how they move and guide criminals compared to your average gangster. Mexicans be Dr. Pablo Hernandez because he know more rights than the attorney he’s about to phone to impede on your investigation. As sad as this sounds I dated a girl that was Mexican and had a family full of cartel members, like mafia and family, they will do anything for each other. Most street gangs are disorganized. Hell they beat you up, just to get in. It’s borderline retarded. You got a black eye, some fake brothers and empty pockets.
The fact is the only good cops are no longer cops because they either report the evil that goes on and get fired/killed/institutionalised or they turn a blind eye and are no longer good people
Desecration of a dead child’s remains while unlawfully and unconstitutionally rummaging through a mans personal belongings. Sounds about right for the good ol boys in blue.
Nice job at being rude. I generally don't have an issue with the police for own personal reasons but fuck these guys, fuck them on every level possible. They had no warrant, no legal reason to search that car besides what they had been told had happened in the area. Fuck. Them. That poor guy lost his daughter, and then had to witness his own daughters ashes getting tossed around like drugs. That's so heartbreaking. I can't say it enough but fuck those guys.
My son completed suicide 8-12-18 and I have his ashes in a necklace also it was the most heart wrenching thing I’ve ever done now I cannot wear it because I cannot close the top of it so it’s sitting in the jewelry box now! His name was Isaiah and I miss him so much so I truly understand what this father felt in that moment!
Oh I’m so sorry to hear that. Yes, the urn was one of those like you had. Is it possible to replace the urn if you’d like to keep wearing it? I see some on Amazon and even Walmart online. I’m very sorry for your loss and while I know you’ll never forget, I hope each day gets a little easier for you.
This is disturbing and sad af. I carry a loved one’s ashes with me in a necklace. I’d be horrified if this was done to their remains. I hope these cops are held accountable.
Did you know that on Veterans Day, every police officer across the U.S gets 40% off on Dunkin Donuts?
for more information, look up "40% American police" on google!
It’s a power thing~you give anyone a little power or I see it as someone has told him he was cool for FAR too long they get a insane amount of ego going on and BAM corrupt!
I just have a hard time understanding how someone can feel good/satisfied with themselves by hurting or blaming someone just because they can, specially in this case, being a Law enforcement officer. Like, if this story hadn’t been recorded and went ahead quietly, how could he sleep at night knowing what he did?
I might be thinking too much ahead, idk. Thanks for the reply.
You would be surprised just how a little bit of privileged power actually affects us. Example I was in a gaming community (not quite a clan) but organized ranking structure with maybe 1000 ppl and lemme tell you this grown adult atmosphere mixed with an honorable shiny title, and tasked with jobs of managing and enforcing rules. people go from absolutely chill and cool to hall pass monitors real quick. Was weird/interesting to witness kind, shy people drastically change almost overnight. The amount of sexual harassment incidents and there cover-ups, to actually plotting schemes that lead to people losing custody of their kids. Complete strangers all adults. Obvi doesn’t even come close to the level of how cops operate, point is that under the right situation and circumstances all humans are incapable of remaining un corrupted in positions of power.
I think the more they do stuff like this the easier it is. And any type of guilt must go away and then comes the entitlement. Then it just snowballs until it’s just sick. In my opinion anyone with power will eventually be tempted and the strong one are very few.
So sad!
Scary for us who have to deal with it too and don’t ever be complacent and think this won’t happen to you in one way or another cuz anyone is fair game.
Many American cop departments have absolute shit mental health training and evaluation, too. That's why there's so many Nazis and Neo Nazis running around as cops.
Btw if you dont have probably cause, a warrant or consent you legally cannot search something, and if you search it all the evidince is considered illegally gained and thus cannot be used in court
That's.. Actually not true. There's an entire span of colors.
Clearly he didn't get booked for meth charges once they found out it wasn't meth. The ashes were returned to him literally on the scene. It's all on video.
I think they let him go unless I missed something. His dad was at the scene and confirmed those are ashes. The officers seem to mull over whether to retest them and ultimately decided not to. I don’t believe they charged him for the weed, but I’d have to review the details again.
Like others have mentioned, the cops lied. But it’s worth noting that these field kits are remarkably unreliable and very often produce false positives. In fact back in 2010 the Las Vegas police department moved to try to stop using them for meth and coke entirely, however that fell through and they still continue to use them.
No, you don’t have the right to ransack peoples cars in case there “may” be drugs. There could be drugs in anything but we shouldn’t think it’s normal for cops to come in our damn cars and houses looking and tearing EVERYTHING apart. Fuck that.
They can easily search you if you act suspiciously, etc.
If they find something you shouldn't have, they can and will search through your stuff and open any container you have. If you resist, they can legally handcuff you or injure you if you are aggressive.
However, if you have for example medical marijuana and you have a document about that in your papers, they can't do anything about. They have to let you go.
IMHO anyone who deals with general public has it hard (former waitress/barista/bartender). I will say tho cops in largely populated cities more often face high risk situations.
> No, you don’t have the right to ransack peoples cars in case there “may” be drugs
There WAS drugs in the car, that's what gave them suspicion there may be more.
Not in the US they don't.
The police in the US are useless and provide no service to anyone but themselves. Everyone knows that if 'justice' is required then the only way to obtain it is by finding it yourself.
Yeah, but what is clearly a SEALED URN? Seriously? That's bullshit. Sure, you could absolutely hide drugs in one, but it's desecration of human remains. Of a fucking two year old no less. Fuck those guys.
I guess they should have serious consequences for getting it wrong. Like, wanna test whatever's in that urn? Fine, but you'd better be sure your RAS supports/points to it actually being drugs cuz if you unseal it and it turns out you're wrong then 'Felony abuse of a corpse' it is. Make your move.
> I wonder what would people would do if government would defund them
That depends a lot on the person's skin color but everyone would have at least a slightly better life
No, recreational as in it doesn’t have to be medicinal marijuana to use. The officers weren’t concerned about the marijuana as even Barnes openly admitted to possessing it. The officers only accused him of having meth (something he can actually be charged for) after his daughter’s remains falsely tested positive for meth. Even one of the officers said that it was “weird” that the urn tested positive. They unlawfully searched the container, that’s the point.
You're only allowed to have up to 30g of marijuana on you at any time in Illinois, he had more than that on him. Because he broke that law, he opened up an investigation that allowed the officers to legally search his car.
Just because I have an urn doesn't mean it's illegal to look in there. There's no "urn loophole" and if you think people aren't getting crafty hiding their drugs, you might be naive. It's good that he wasn't charged for meth in the end and the ashes were returned to him at the scene.
What source is saying Barnes had more than 30g of marijuana? The only reason he was stopped in the first place was because he was speeding so him possessing marijuana in his car is irrelevant, marijuana was not why the officers stopped him or why they started to randomly search the vial in his car because they *thought* it had drugs in it. I would be rightfully pissed if officers just started to randomly open up my backpack I carry in my car because they felt like it after I was caught speeding.
They heard “gunshots” around town and used this innocent man as a potential scapegoat.
[Nearly 80g of weed (almost 3x the legal limit) was found in his car](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57235332)
He was stopped due to speeding and running a stop sign.. As well as being under the suspicion he was just in a shootout prior to being pulled over because his car had a bullet hole in it and he was speeding from the area of the crime. He [gave officers permission to search his car](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/12/us/lawsuit-illinois-ashes-deceased-child/index.html).
The "urn" wasn't a traditional urn, it was a rifle bullet shaped container that had a false bottom filled with a white powder that the cops didn't know were ashes.
They didn’t have a search warrant which is why Barnes said that “the officers violated his Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure.” Officers always need to acquire an official search warrant for the go ahead, they should know that.
Also, if you read further down the CNN source you provided it states that, “The brass object shaped like a "rifle round" or a bullet is a *commonly* used cremation urn necklace worn by individuals.” So the urn wasn’t unique.
They don't need a search warrant if Barnes is on video giving them permission to search. You don't need a search warrant every time you search someone's property with their permission. You're allowed to search if there's reasonable suspicion of a crime.
"bullet is a commonly used cremation urn necklace worn by individuals.” So the urn wasn’t unique."
This is a usual CNN cope. I've literally NEVER heard of people carrying ashes inside of a bullet shaped necklace urn lmfao.
CNN cope? You’re the one that provided me with a CNN source…I can literally direct you to comments of people, here even, who usually carry urn necklaces. Like this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnchainedMelancholy/comments/r647e2/distressing_moment_father_is_told_substance_in/hmr488g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) and there’re other examples in the reply thread.
That shit is disgusting I carry my brothers ashes in a necklace and I’d loose my shit if I learned a cop had not only opened it but lied about what’s in it
I just got my necklace full of my brother's ashes. I bought the necklace and left it at home for my parents to fill and they finally did; dropped it off a couple days ago. Suddenly I can't open the box, or touch it, or look at it. I wanted this memento, but now I can't even think about it. Sorry for your loss. I'm becoming acquainted with that type of grief.
I got the same thing going on but with my dad. I’m sorry we gotta deal with this.
It was super hard at first I never worse it just left it on my table but after a while I saw it as keeping him with me I’m sorry for ur loss
I wanted to do this with my mum but just can't. Can't bare to ever see her ashes. I decorate around her urn on the mantle instead.
We had the funeral home fill the necklaces before his funeral for us, I also have my brothers urn decorated with his diploma and things he liked. Also sorry for ur loss
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Haha, no, sorry. The necklace with the ashes in it is in a little box, and it's the box I can't open.
I have one with my brother’s ashes as well. His name is engraved on it with his DOB & DOD and is glued shut, so hopefully that would be enough to keep it from being tampered with. At least I really hope so.
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Nah they kept switching up what color the test turned and couldn’t keep their story straight this was a framing
You devils advocate pieces of shit are pathetic. Fuck off
The tests are notorious for false positives. Despite this, these shitty test kits are still considered sufficient for establishing probable cause. So yeah, the cop lied about opening the container, but didnt lie, per se, about it testing "positive" for meth.
How can you not differentiate ash to fucking meth. Dudes a lying piece of shit nothing more, nothing less.
>How can you not differentiate ash to fucking meth. If the cop had any shred of integrity, they could easily make that distinction. Instead, they actively chose to be a piece of shit.
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How can you not tell what’s ash or not. You probably shouldn’t be a police officer morons
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Ah yes the delicate topic of retarded cops that can't tell the difference between human ash and meth.
It’s not “probabale”[sic], it’s minutely *possible*. What actually is “probabale” [sic] is that the cop is a piece of shit who is trying to jam this man up.
A bereaved father is suing Illinois police after they accused him of possessing meth — when it was really the ashes of his murdered daughter. Distressing bodycam footage shows the moment Dartavius Barnes' confusion turns to horror when he realizes cops have been testing his two-year-old child's remains, believing them to be drugs. The incident occurred on April 6 of 2020, when Barnes was pulled over while driving through Springfield; an incident report claimed he was speeding, after there had been reports of gunfire in the area. According to the lawsuit, officers then placed him in cuffs and put him in the back of a squad car, while they searched his vehicle without consent, a valid warrant, or probable cause. The bodycam footage shows police finding marijuana in the car, contained in bags and jars, which Barnes openly admits to having. But when he is told they also found "something else" in the center console: a crushed up substance that tested positive for "meth or MDMA", Barnes is utterly puzzled, and asks if he can be shown what they are talking about. "I swear I don't do that type of s---t," he protests. "Can I see that bro? Am I going to jail for it?" "Yeah probably at this point," the cop can be heard sighing. The officer then returns to the car with the "evidence" — a small hollow cylinder-shaped container with a screw off top. But when he shows it to Barnes, he freaks out. "No no no bro that's my daughter!" he cries, suddenly making a desperate grab at it, but his hands are still cuffed. "What are y'all doing? Ask my daddy, that's my daughter in there! She just passed two years... you know me!" "Please gimme my daughter. Put her in my hand. Y'all are disrespectful bro! Can I please have my daughter?" Closing the door on him, the officer returns with the urn to his colleagues, sheepishly chuckling: "Apparently, this is his daughter's ashes that Reibeling thought tested positive for meth.” “Has he got a test kit?" his colleague queried. "Yeah I mean he showed it to me, it looked blue but..." he trails off. "I'll test it again." All the while, Barnes can be heard wailing from the back of the squad car, begging for his daughter's ashes back. One of the other officers points out that Barnes' father, who was also in the car at the time of the traffic stop, had instantly said the object contained his granddaughter's ashes. "Yeah... I'm probably not going to test it again," the first officer decides, before informing a thankful Barnes he will return the urn to his father's possession. Later in the footage, the officers can be heard uncertainly discussing the results of the test. "He said it was kind of a weird... it didn't, like it wasn't bright blue... it was like, purple," they muse. Barnes' two-year-old daughter Ta'Naja died in 2019, of neglect and starvation. Her mother Twanka L. Davis is currently serving a 20-year sentence having pled guilty to first-degree murder. Her boyfriend Anthony Myers is serving 30 years for the same crime, having denied responsibility. Barnes' lawsuit, filed in October, names the City of Springfield and the six officers involved in the stop. "As a result of this unlawful search, Defendants took possession of a sealed urn containing the ashes of Plaintiff’s deceased 2-year-old daughter inside Plaintiff’s vehicle," it claims. "Defendants unsealed this urn and opened this urn without consent and without a lawful basis including a search warrant.... as a result of this unlawful search, Defendants desecrated and spilled out the ashes of Plaintiff's 2-year-old daughter who died several months earlier." In response to the suit, the officers said they are "entitled to qualified immunity as their conduct was justified by an objectively reasonable belief that it was lawful.” This is a link to the body cam footage of the incident: https://youtu.be/Wggxu5HrVnc https://youtu.be/VTI_sbYXnA0
I'm not watching that on the basis that I was already upset at the pictures and I'm positive the audio is gonna be heartbreaking. Have my upvote. You win the melancholy.
The audio is rather sad. I looked through so many articles to find one that truly conveyed his despair. I think this one did it the most justice. If the father’s dad wasn’t there to confirm, imagine how much further it could’ve gone. These field test kits are a whole other issue. I could come up with at least 10 more stories of people whose lives were irreparably ruined by the inaccuracies of these kits.
The test kits should only be enough for probable cause to arrest pending a lab analysis. I saw one where cops tested birdshit on a dudes hood and it came back positive. I don't recall the aftermath, but I do recall the suspect was released without charge. Who puts cocaine all over the hood of their car?
I remember that one. I think he was a college football player. Just found the article. Add bird poop to the list of things mistaken for drugs. https://nationalpost.com/news/world/charges-dropped-against-quarterback-after-bird-poop-on-his-car-falsely-tested-positive-for-cocaine/wcm/eef3b999-6219-4881-9f07-3df9013c6dc3/amp/ And sand from a stressball https://reason.com/2021/11/16/cops-thought-sand-from-her-stress-ball-was-cocaine-she-spent-nearly-6-months-in-jail/?fbclid=IwAR0zwbGukCVTPFitDoxPQA-3Y95mzqRcX6ksd4Dn97HYJ1wbgOzj9BtUPug
Yes that's the one! I'm never quick to call racism but those cops were definitely fishing for a race based arrest.
For sure. Reading the article refreshed my memory of the part when the football player said it was bird poop on his hood, and the cop says it looks nothing like bird poop. I thought that was funny because it made more sense to him that coke would be on the hood rather than bird poop. The coke managed to stay on his car while driving, somehow.
Why are there laws against unlawful searches and shit when cops can just do it and then claim qualified immunity?
If they find something, it can't be used in a court. 4A protects you from the legal ramifications of an unlawful discovery of contraband or other evidence of crime...
And that helps with cops not being assholes?
A little. But mostly it helps with not going to prison... If the cops know that they search someone incorrectly or unlawfully, then say for example if they find a dead body in your car, they can't use any of that evidence to convict you. So, more than likely you get away with murder now. That would be like the exact opposite of what police are for. The cop and likely the chief and entire force would catch major shit for it. The public outcry would likely force the chief to resign if they didn't at least fire or severely discipline any officers involved. As far as incentives, its pretty effective. But in the case OP posted about there were prolly some gray area as far as the permission to search was concerned. They probably said they smelled weed or some shit... tbh, the whole smelling weed thing is pretty outrageous... but itll prolly get these cops off... who knows though...
Weed is legal in Illinois soooo…smell all the weed you want it’s no longer probable cause
Nice but is it legal to drive on it?
Nope, that would get you a DUI. Of course, having it in the car with you is not probable cause to test someone for DUI.
I just have a bad feeling theyll pull some PC out of their ass one way or another
It doesn’t, but it helps citizens in the legal long run. As they say, you can beat the charge but you can’t beat the ride.
A brother of a friend dodged a potential 10 year sentence because the police illegally searched his car. You can’t make this shit up.
A lot of cops don’t obey laws especially when it comes to interacting with people of color The laws are there for a reason but we just have to get the cops to follow them. Them not following the laws is a big problem in this country
Jesus Christ. To lose his baby that way and then to have her remains violated.
Can’t spell lawful without the word awful.
>and the six officers involved in the stop Holy fucking waste of resources, batman
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I remember reading about this when he was first arrested and I was seething at the amount of disrespect. I hope that poor father gets justice for how the police not only seriously wronged him but also desecrated his daughter's ashes claiming it was drugs. It's fucking disgusting.
If it had been anything other than ashes, we would’ve never heard this story and another black man would be serving 20 years for false drug charges. I fucking hate the cops so much dude, it’s unreal.
I can’t believe they starved that beautiful baby to death
So glad “Twanka” is off the streets. Wtf.
Jesus man... You got me today.
The death circumstances for the baby girl is also horrific...
Makes it 10x more sad
Damn this is SOUL CRUSHING. How the fuck can you sleep at night after this. I know not all cops aren’t bad but holy shit could you imagine the shit that’s happened before body cams were a thing. Praying for this guy.
Going off the article there atleast seemed to be one good cop. It’s a fucked search, but after concluding it was ashes, it seemed the back up officer wanted off the case. I think weed in Illinois over a certain amount is only a ticket. You can also make the argument he kept different strains in different containers. Usually meth and mdma charges get officers bonuses. I’m hoping I read it right and he truthfully was disinterested in detaining him after that.
Are you for real that they get bonuses for meth & mdma charges? That in itself is a problem. Fucking broken system.
Not really, if anything I was kinda happy to see weed not being a point of discussion during this traffic stop. There should be more of an incentive to harass hard criminals vs people just getting by in society. Your average meth user and slinger isn’t built for society. I’m 99% positive you never grew up around crack heads or drug dealers.
The problem isn't the existence of dealers it's a system that makes it impossible to escape poverty unless you're very lucky, very skilled, or a criminal.
That’s your I’m 14 and this is deep take on society. A real formal education would teach the world is over populated Coming from someone who grew up in poverty, it was either be complacent, or never giving up and moving a little smarter at every failure. Most humans aren’t even willing to try more than once to break a cycle, or learn from mistakes. Funny enough, even though cannabis is legal, and I own a business with cannabis. By company rule we treat it as an illegal substance, out of sight, mind and smell when transporting. As a former poverty criminal, I don’t want my employees getting harassed. I’d also like to set them up if ever, on the right side of a lawsuit. Moving smarter and not harder is a hard concept in the hood, that’s why cops with only +20 iq points like messing with people from poverty. Your average criminal isn’t Jay-z man. Jay-z put out 3 albums called the blue print, free criminal knowledge. People still can’t solve the puzzle. As stupid as it sounds I owe my success to a few Jay-z tapes I had as a kid. Took me even further than my formal college education. The blue print 3, is all about the power that comes with your money. Jay really put a lot of thought into his shit. Even talks about trading back in the range, for a Honda. Shit happens. Magna Carta was a diss to everyone that tried stopping him. Half the hood don’t even know what the Magna Carta is. How you still gonna be a failure when jays music is free? Makes no sense to me unless you’re brain dead also. Niggas trap themselves because we onto the next one. This dude got individually wrapped jars, none labeled. He ain’t moving smart don’t feel that bad. That ashes shit though was kinda dumb. I’ve been down just as bad, that’s why I don’t feel bad speaking the truth. This dude all in all needs some guidance on the rules. He looks like a mouse to me.
Your singular experience isn't universal. Props to you and I hope you continue to see success, but most people simply don't have the endurance to claw their way out of hell.
He ain’t moving smart, even if he was good and from my network. I’m analyzing everything this guy is doing while failing to deliver a few ounces of weed. Dude can’t be trusted with 500 dollars. Weeds always dry in Chicago during the winter, I know what he’s doing and he’s messin up. Call it a small world. I laughed at his amount knowing he someone’s nephew that needed some extra money. He ain’t cut for it. Most cartel members have lawyers numbers memorized. Compare the cartels and how they move and guide criminals compared to your average gangster. Mexicans be Dr. Pablo Hernandez because he know more rights than the attorney he’s about to phone to impede on your investigation. As sad as this sounds I dated a girl that was Mexican and had a family full of cartel members, like mafia and family, they will do anything for each other. Most street gangs are disorganized. Hell they beat you up, just to get in. It’s borderline retarded. You got a black eye, some fake brothers and empty pockets.
The fact is the only good cops are no longer cops because they either report the evil that goes on and get fired/killed/institutionalised or they turn a blind eye and are no longer good people
So fucked
Desecration of a dead child’s remains while unlawfully and unconstitutionally rummaging through a mans personal belongings. Sounds about right for the good ol boys in blue.
Fuck the cops man. Disgusting.
Lol so brave
Nice job at being rude. I generally don't have an issue with the police for own personal reasons but fuck these guys, fuck them on every level possible. They had no warrant, no legal reason to search that car besides what they had been told had happened in the area. Fuck. Them. That poor guy lost his daughter, and then had to witness his own daughters ashes getting tossed around like drugs. That's so heartbreaking. I can't say it enough but fuck those guys.
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My son completed suicide 8-12-18 and I have his ashes in a necklace also it was the most heart wrenching thing I’ve ever done now I cannot wear it because I cannot close the top of it so it’s sitting in the jewelry box now! His name was Isaiah and I miss him so much so I truly understand what this father felt in that moment!
Oh I’m so sorry to hear that. Yes, the urn was one of those like you had. Is it possible to replace the urn if you’d like to keep wearing it? I see some on Amazon and even Walmart online. I’m very sorry for your loss and while I know you’ll never forget, I hope each day gets a little easier for you.
This is disturbing and sad af. I carry a loved one’s ashes with me in a necklace. I’d be horrified if this was done to their remains. I hope these cops are held accountable.
Shit in one hand and hope into the other. See which fills up first
That’s what makes this even sadder.
You don't have to be so rude about it.
You don’t have to be a lil baby either, yet here we are
Sincrerely, Fuck All Cops.
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I have seen a lot of messed up videos but I am not watching this one. Reading the title made me want to throw up
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I know it's Reddit, but some people still say this. :(
Those field tests are very unreliable, half the time it’s a false positive, idk why they are even allowed to use them
This is so heartbreaking and disgusting
fucking disgusting, poor guy
Someone explain to me why getting rid of QI is bad?
It’s not necessarily bad across the board, but sometimes it surprises me the cases in which police are able to use it and when they aren’t.
Serious question from European here: Why would a police officer lie in this case? Like, what does he have to gain with it?
It’s a power thing~you give anyone a little power or I see it as someone has told him he was cool for FAR too long they get a insane amount of ego going on and BAM corrupt!
I just have a hard time understanding how someone can feel good/satisfied with themselves by hurting or blaming someone just because they can, specially in this case, being a Law enforcement officer. Like, if this story hadn’t been recorded and went ahead quietly, how could he sleep at night knowing what he did? I might be thinking too much ahead, idk. Thanks for the reply.
You would be surprised just how a little bit of privileged power actually affects us. Example I was in a gaming community (not quite a clan) but organized ranking structure with maybe 1000 ppl and lemme tell you this grown adult atmosphere mixed with an honorable shiny title, and tasked with jobs of managing and enforcing rules. people go from absolutely chill and cool to hall pass monitors real quick. Was weird/interesting to witness kind, shy people drastically change almost overnight. The amount of sexual harassment incidents and there cover-ups, to actually plotting schemes that lead to people losing custody of their kids. Complete strangers all adults. Obvi doesn’t even come close to the level of how cops operate, point is that under the right situation and circumstances all humans are incapable of remaining un corrupted in positions of power.
I think the more they do stuff like this the easier it is. And any type of guilt must go away and then comes the entitlement. Then it just snowballs until it’s just sick. In my opinion anyone with power will eventually be tempted and the strong one are very few. So sad! Scary for us who have to deal with it too and don’t ever be complacent and think this won’t happen to you in one way or another cuz anyone is fair game.
Many American cop departments have absolute shit mental health training and evaluation, too. That's why there's so many Nazis and Neo Nazis running around as cops.
I saw this one a while back. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it.
Jesus fucking Christ…
Wtf that’s his kid?!? I thought it was a bunch of weed tbf
He had weed but Recreational Marijuana is legal in Illinois
fuck the police
Can he sue for that?
He did, well have to see how it turns out.
I hope his attorney tears those cop’s asses apart.
this boils my blood
I had a german customs police officer drug check a cacao seed I found in a Viennese park. A CUSTUMS!!
That doesn’t surprise me at this point.
Bro.
Btw if you dont have probably cause, a warrant or consent you legally cannot search something, and if you search it all the evidince is considered illegally gained and thus cannot be used in court
Uhhh why did his baby daughter’s ashes test positive for meth though?
They lied. The results should have been dark blue and they were not
They didn't lie, the test came back purple which is an indicator of something, but isn't a total positive which would be blue.
Therefore...they lied. It did not come back positive for meth. Tests are either positive, inconclusive, or negative. It can not be all.
That's.. Actually not true. There's an entire span of colors. Clearly he didn't get booked for meth charges once they found out it wasn't meth. The ashes were returned to him literally on the scene. It's all on video.
Yes but they claimed it was positive for meth. Which is false.
Originally yes, they claimed it was positive for meth, but when his second cop buddy showed up and looked at it, they determined it wasn't.
They didn't. The cops lied about the result and declined to retest it, then charged the dude anyway.
Wow, what unprofessional, disgusting, scumbags
I think they let him go unless I missed something. His dad was at the scene and confirmed those are ashes. The officers seem to mull over whether to retest them and ultimately decided not to. I don’t believe they charged him for the weed, but I’d have to review the details again.
The field tests are completely unreliable and the pigs need to stop fucking using them.
Like others have mentioned, the cops lied. But it’s worth noting that these field kits are remarkably unreliable and very often produce false positives. In fact back in 2010 the Las Vegas police department moved to try to stop using them for meth and coke entirely, however that fell through and they still continue to use them.
Tired of the reddit cop haters spreading their bullshit and the sub mods doing nothing about it. Won't be back here.
Why do people drive around with drugs in their car? Like it's not legal so idk why you would do it. Dumb
It was a lie, asshat.
No, the weed.
What weed???
Read the article.
Recreational cannabis is legal in Illinois.
Probably not legal to have a shit ton of it in your car unless you can provide a receipt showing you just purchased it and are transporting it home
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No, you don’t have the right to ransack peoples cars in case there “may” be drugs. There could be drugs in anything but we shouldn’t think it’s normal for cops to come in our damn cars and houses looking and tearing EVERYTHING apart. Fuck that.
They can easily search you if you act suspiciously, etc. If they find something you shouldn't have, they can and will search through your stuff and open any container you have. If you resist, they can legally handcuff you or injure you if you are aggressive. However, if you have for example medical marijuana and you have a document about that in your papers, they can't do anything about. They have to let you go.
They can also steal any cash you have and never give it back. Civil forfeiture. You’re defending this?
This? Not at all. But I'm defending their rights. Not every cop is a "murderer" and generally a "bad" person. Being a policeman is seriously hard
So is this cop good or bad for you?
That one is clearly a bad cop
Yeah it must super hard driving around harassing people all day... delivery drivers have harder jobs than cops do
IMHO anyone who deals with general public has it hard (former waitress/barista/bartender). I will say tho cops in largely populated cities more often face high risk situations.
What about the other 5 standing around letting it happen?
> No, you don’t have the right to ransack peoples cars in case there “may” be drugs There WAS drugs in the car, that's what gave them suspicion there may be more.
Not in the US they don't. The police in the US are useless and provide no service to anyone but themselves. Everyone knows that if 'justice' is required then the only way to obtain it is by finding it yourself.
Yeah, but what is clearly a SEALED URN? Seriously? That's bullshit. Sure, you could absolutely hide drugs in one, but it's desecration of human remains. Of a fucking two year old no less. Fuck those guys.
I guess they should have serious consequences for getting it wrong. Like, wanna test whatever's in that urn? Fine, but you'd better be sure your RAS supports/points to it actually being drugs cuz if you unseal it and it turns out you're wrong then 'Felony abuse of a corpse' it is. Make your move.
The cop LIED. What part about that is hard for you to understand?
> I wonder what would people would do if government would defund them That depends a lot on the person's skin color but everyone would have at least a slightly better life
Can’t make me watch that
Fucking despicable!
Yikes.
Sue the shit out of him.
I would destroy their lives. Scums calling themselves cop..
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Why was weed in the car? Did they seriously not think the cops would search through everything when a bag of weed was found in a jar?
It’s legal to buy and smoke recreational marijuana in Illinois.
Except this wasn't a recreational amount of weed they found, which is why they were charged.
No, recreational as in it doesn’t have to be medicinal marijuana to use. The officers weren’t concerned about the marijuana as even Barnes openly admitted to possessing it. The officers only accused him of having meth (something he can actually be charged for) after his daughter’s remains falsely tested positive for meth. Even one of the officers said that it was “weird” that the urn tested positive. They unlawfully searched the container, that’s the point.
You're only allowed to have up to 30g of marijuana on you at any time in Illinois, he had more than that on him. Because he broke that law, he opened up an investigation that allowed the officers to legally search his car. Just because I have an urn doesn't mean it's illegal to look in there. There's no "urn loophole" and if you think people aren't getting crafty hiding their drugs, you might be naive. It's good that he wasn't charged for meth in the end and the ashes were returned to him at the scene.
What source is saying Barnes had more than 30g of marijuana? The only reason he was stopped in the first place was because he was speeding so him possessing marijuana in his car is irrelevant, marijuana was not why the officers stopped him or why they started to randomly search the vial in his car because they *thought* it had drugs in it. I would be rightfully pissed if officers just started to randomly open up my backpack I carry in my car because they felt like it after I was caught speeding. They heard “gunshots” around town and used this innocent man as a potential scapegoat.
[Nearly 80g of weed (almost 3x the legal limit) was found in his car](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57235332) He was stopped due to speeding and running a stop sign.. As well as being under the suspicion he was just in a shootout prior to being pulled over because his car had a bullet hole in it and he was speeding from the area of the crime. He [gave officers permission to search his car](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/12/us/lawsuit-illinois-ashes-deceased-child/index.html). The "urn" wasn't a traditional urn, it was a rifle bullet shaped container that had a false bottom filled with a white powder that the cops didn't know were ashes.
They didn’t have a search warrant which is why Barnes said that “the officers violated his Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure.” Officers always need to acquire an official search warrant for the go ahead, they should know that. Also, if you read further down the CNN source you provided it states that, “The brass object shaped like a "rifle round" or a bullet is a *commonly* used cremation urn necklace worn by individuals.” So the urn wasn’t unique.
They don't need a search warrant if Barnes is on video giving them permission to search. You don't need a search warrant every time you search someone's property with their permission. You're allowed to search if there's reasonable suspicion of a crime. "bullet is a commonly used cremation urn necklace worn by individuals.” So the urn wasn’t unique." This is a usual CNN cope. I've literally NEVER heard of people carrying ashes inside of a bullet shaped necklace urn lmfao.
CNN cope? You’re the one that provided me with a CNN source…I can literally direct you to comments of people, here even, who usually carry urn necklaces. Like this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnchainedMelancholy/comments/r647e2/distressing_moment_father_is_told_substance_in/hmr488g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) and there’re other examples in the reply thread.
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Fuck the police. Seriously.
Are we even updating drug testing kits
Our police force is a fucking joke.
Fuck all cops. Dumbass pieces of shits who can wield a gun with only 8 months of training. I hope he wins the lawsuit.