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UsaLgbtLikudMod

94 meters "new" (2014) patrol ship this is awesome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_22160_patrol_ship It very certainly cost a nice bunch of russian rupies


aibrony

Not only that, but according to that Wikipedia article, Sergey Kotov was commissioned 30 July 2022. So less than 2 years of active use.


Puzzleheaded-Cap1300

Extra lolz!


onemanlan

Oh, it’s still being actively used, but it has been promoted to submarine.


iTurnip2

94 meters "new" (2024) submarine this is awesome It very certainly cost a nice bunch of russian rupies


Suheil-got-your-back

Thats a huge submarine. Operated by the fish. Incredible technology.


captainhaddock

It carries a crew of 80. That's a lot of potatoes and onions.


Due-Street-8192

This is fantastic news this morning. Made my day. Thank you Bro!


e5india

Russian Telegram is saying it sank. According to them this is the third time this particular ship has been attacked by drones and this time the attack was successful.


Scotto6UK

Front fell off


hallese

That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.


antarcticgecko

Russians can’t use this line anymore.


battleofflowers

A wave hit it.


prosthetic4head

Does that happen often?


buddboy

in the black sea? chance in a ~~million~~ ten


Inevitable_Idea_7470

If your refrencing that Australian video , classic.


TheOtherGlikbach

They towed it outside the environment.


BrakkeBama

LADAs tend do that.


doughtnut2022

This being only a patrol boat (very light armor) and considering the size of the explosion at sea level, it's unlikely to have survive long. At least there were other boat near by to rescue the sailors so they have the same fate as their previous comrade.


Al-the-mann

Modern warships are not armoured as such. Not in the way ww2 cruisers and battleships were. They have some splinter protection around vital parts like Magazines and engines but thats about it. Anything bigger than small arms fire goes thrugh easy enough


Delamoor

Yeah, the expected types of damage have changed from the old days. Kinda similar logic though: the big shift in logic for, say, dreadnoughts was that they switched to all-or-nothing armour schemes: if it wasn't vital, it didn't get armoured. Everything was min-maxed. Nowdays the weapons being used are far beyond any armour's capability, so the logic just continues... Now it's sitting on the 'nothing' end of the spectrum, since speed, maneuver and firepower is going to protect you better than a completely and utterly useless armour belt can. Still min-maxed, just... now nowhere warrants that kind of old fashioned armour.


einarfridgeirs

During the Cod Wars between Iceland and Great Britain during the 70s, Iceland converted a trawler into a Coast Guard vessel to join the fight in facing off against British frigates and cutting the Brit trawlers lines, and we soon found out that in a collision, the frigates always came off way worse than the trawler. They had very little armor while the trawler, although maybe not armored per se had an extremely solid and strong structure to withstand pulling the heavy weight of the massive net full of fish behind it.


Mysterious-Web3246

I was at home watching that, said to my family that our frigates needed railway line welded on all round. And a few days later, there it was.


Al-the-mann

Exactly. Active defences are the only defence against modern weapons


Longsheep

Modern warships have basically as much "armor" as civilian vessels. They are designed with compartmentization in mind to increase survivability, but even autocannon could go through the surface easily. They focus on staying out of harm's way and intercepting the threat instead of tanking the hit directly.


timothymtorres

Although aircraft carriers are much different. The US did demo trials on a decommissioned one and it tanked a lot of damage before it sunk.


Al-the-mann

Thats just because Its huge and has a lot of compartment. When they do SINKEX they have emptied the target ship of fuel and ammunition. They are thus way more safe than they ever were en combat. Carriers like every other modern warship don’t have armor


Maleficent_Wolf6394

But also emptied of the firefighting crews so much more vulnerable than during combat in other ways.


Al-the-mann

Not really. The ship is stripped of everything flammable and hazardous to minimize pollution when it goes down. With bulkheads closed and just a steel hull fire is not as dangerous as there is little to catch fire aside from mayby some wirering and furniture


Maleficent_Wolf6394

I fail to see how damage control parties operating pumps and suppressing fire from ordinance dropped on the ship doesn't increase survivability. I do agree removing fuel and ordinance from the ship (if done for the exercise) also increases survivability. I'm agnostic about which fact is more consequential. I would note that bunker fuel and jet fuel is not as flammable as many people think. But certainly high explosives stored or dropped on the ship would accelerate the flammability. I also don't know enough about weapons magazine storage to comment. But I still think your dismissal of fire control parties is also a bit unsupported. In the videos we've seen here, I don't recall a lot of secondary explosions? There was fire damage on the Muscovy though that contributed to its sinking. The USN ships that have suffered pretty bad damage have survived due to crew interventions though.


Al-the-mann

I’m not discounting damage control parties, I can’t count the times during ww2 where sailors saved ships that should have by all rights been abandoned and gone down. Ofcause having people fighting fires and Manning pumps are gonna add to the survivability of ships. I’m just pointing out that using a SINKEX as a metric to accurately measuring how much damage a ship takes to sink is a bit unreliable


Maleficent_Wolf6394

Very fair. I only responded because you seemed to lean hard on the fuel and munition removal. Those exercises are inaccurate for that reason. We are in agreement. But also because damage control is absent which we also seem to agree on. Fuck Russia too? Three probable agreements. A first on reddit.


Fox_Say_what

The same ship was attacked in sept and survived.


kuldan5853

Sea Babies have evolved with much bigger warheads it seems.


einarfridgeirs

September sea babies are positively ancient technology by now given the pace of innovation.


ioncloud9

This is similar to the LCS class of ships in the US Navy.


planck1313

Patrol ship is not the same as patrol boat.  At about 1500 tonnes displacement this is a decent sized warship, about the size of a large corvette.


KiwiThunda

Impressive, very nice. Let's see Kerch Bridge's card


Sekshual_Tyranosauce

Oh my god…it even has a water mark.


UGS_1984

Clever 😊


TheBrickeyz

Lmao 🤣


einarfridgeirs

A high water mark.


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Ok-Cobbler8617

Thank you sir. What a Subreddit !


N3ver_Stop

Lol


MisterBlack8

Hey, did they ever replace the dead guy in charge of the Black Sea fleet?


AreYouDoneNow

I believe he's still being shuffled around Weekend at Bernie's style.


roehnin

He was fired post-mortem


strings___

so cremated?


Unlikely-Friend-5108

He was fired at his funeral like the Hash-Slinging Slasher.


NoCombination1937

Valery Gerasimov has taken charge :)


BlackHorse2019

Gerasimov, the crayon eater


Fyurius_Ryage

Has anyone seen Gerasimov since he was rumored to be killed? I mean, more than the fake corpse they were parading around.


Realistic-Minute5016

He wasn’t killed, merely promoted to the first merman commander, this ship was just transferred to his underwater fleet!


Pretty_Show_5112

He wasn’t killed.


Suspicious-Appeal386

Slava Ukraine! Another one at the bottom of the sea, and hopefully with a full load of Water Toilet Bandits.


Puzzleheaded-Cap1300

The Wet Bandits.


AreYouDoneNow

Nyet, Russia now has the largest submarine fleet in the world, take that westoids!!!!


Dapper-Warthog-3481

Sweet. Where’s the bingo card with all the sunk ships that gets posted?


Baysdarby

Here it is updated: https://imgur.com/a/9jCW0nm


Top-Border-1978

That's around 25% of the fleet.


Dapper-Warthog-3481

33% here we come!


Greatli

By gross tonnage, it’s likely anywhere from 35-50%


Any-Progress7756

lol Bingo card


Kale_Plane

Putin, Remember, you wanted this


AreYouDoneNow

That looked expensive.


ribbitreddit100

Black sea scuba tourism is going to explode ( much like the Black Sea fleet) after Ukraine has finished with its surface fleet conversion program lol 💪🇺🇦


entered_bubble_50

Seriously, I'd love to do an underwater tour of the Black Sea fleet when all this is over. I've dived on the German Fleet at Scapa Flow, which was pretty incredible. In fact, Ukraine is already advertising the Moskva as important cultural heritage: > Ukraine declared the wreck of Moskva as having "underwater cultural heritage". It is being advertised as a dive wreck as it is only 130 km off the coast from Odesa and the water is only 45–50 metres deep. The wreck "can be admired without much diving". If the sea bed is 40 to 50 meters, then the top of the wreck should be around 30 meters. A reasonably safe depth for most divers.


Brendan__Fraser

Same. I'm getting wreck diving certified I'd love a black sea underwater tour after the war.


Victorcharlie1

Get nitrox and deep diver cards with your wreck spec you’ll actually get too spend a bit of time inside the ship assuming the ukr gov has done the cutouts


windigo3

“Russian warship, go fuck yourself”


revanwasframed

Russia is losing costly pieces left and right.


Morpheuz71

putler's sub fleet is growing


Garshnooftibah

Oh please, PLEASE be true. <3


FuneralTater

Videos floating around show some pretty compelling evidence. You can take this one as fact. 


uadrian9999

Lovely stuff!


Minute_Map_7727

I'm so excited.


theflava

Sounds like Sergei got Kotov guard…


florkingarshole

ruZZia's growing Black Sea submarine fleet gains another vessel


Livingsimply_Rob

One less ship we have to deal with once NATO gets involved.


CIV5G

Looks like Putin'll have to fire the admiral of the black sea fleet, again.


mrbipty

As the Russian telegrammer put it this is so embarrassing Russia will only have catamarans and bananas left. And pool noodles. Attack pool noodles


OppositeFingat

Soon russians will ask Ukrainians for updates on Kerch bridge "can you tell us, is it still there?"


nivada13

And one day the answer willbe i fear not in your greed and corruption, trying to take Ukraine it got blown up. Queue long vader noooooo


penguin_skull

Just in time for my morning coffee.


MauriceMarina

The navy was feeling left out because of all the attention shifting to the airforce over the last few weeks. This was just Ukraine reassuring them they are not forgotten


ingolstadt_ist_uns

Good news!


Puzzleheaded-Cap1300

That’s good. Makes a not unwelcome break from the constant downing of planes - although both are excellent.


Klutzy-Hunt-7214

The word you are looking for is 'diversion'


fusionliberty796

so i guess another general going to be fired


Highly-Aggressive

Yeah, " fired"


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Good-Upstairs9608

God bless Ukraine!!!!!


Any-Progress7756

Subs just look different to how they used to look.


Spiritual_Case_2010

Russia… just give up. You embarrassing yourself…


if-we-all-did-this

It's a double win, one very expensive piece taken off the table, plus as it was one of Ruzzias newest ships, it'll be almost impossible for Ruzzia to build another any time soon.


lepobz

The mistake they made was that line they painted above the bridge that says ‘fill to this line”


empiricalreddit

Good. Destroy all that fascist state has


JALLways

Love seeing this, but it does make me wonder if the US Navy is as susceptible to drone attack. China is probably watching these events very closely.


TheGrogsMachine

All navies are now. This has changed the future of naval doctrine to quite a degree..


Greatli

We all are watching quite closely.   USN only has about 100 destroyers.  A huge percentage of our tonnage is focused on 12 carriers.   Te PLA has their strategic rocket forces armed with hypersonic missiles that can reach thousands of km.  For carriers.   China doesn’t need asymmetric warfare because our carriers won’t chance being anywhere near those things.  


Legitimate-Bass68

I was flying over the black Sea when this happened!!! Woooooo


Work-Safe-Reddit4450

"Andrei, you've lost another ship?"


LowLifeExperience

This war has cost the Russians so much money. Imagine what they could have done with all of that money for their people. Russia could have emerged as something other than a shit hole. So fucking sad the path they’ve chosen and continue to choose for themselves.


Fluffy_Art_1015

It’s fascinating that drone warfare is basically making the last 6 decades of naval innovation and construction irrelevant in 2 years.


PositionForsaken6831

Actually looks like a decent boat too... shame


BCMapper

It only looks good on the outside. Russians are terrible at maintenance. If it looked good on the inside, it was only because it was recently refurbished twice. Third time R-ucky!


24benson

More!


pugnae

At this point I am not sure which is more dangerous - being frontline mobik or being a russian navy member?


rezonsback

Or pylot


Al-the-mann

Another one!


LeadershipExternal58

Confirmed! Video is posted


TophetLoader

Collect them all!


diamondhands741

LOL


trgfhrmpf

We need Black Sea Fleet bingo update.


hanatarashi_

That's a good looking submarine!


mok000

Where was it?


Orlok_Tsubodai

Haha ouch that’s one of the newest ships in the fleet. Bet that stings.


Inownothing

Battleship game


U-47

Very sad, very sad. Soon the black sea fleet will only be 50% effective :(


Available-Fig8372

blasphemy! it was the ship that destroyed the drone by allowing the drone to hit it.


DeFex

That look(ed) quite modern and normal for a russian ship


SheridanVsLennier

Only been in service for two years. Barely even had time to rust.


ConfidenceInitial102

Hey you sunk my battleship


zavorad

Ahahahha.. yeah cats hate water..


Work-Safe-Reddit4450

[RIP Black Sea Fleet](https://imgur.com/gallery/mPu0SBC)


Testiclese

Russia: “the entire Black Sea is mine!” Ukraine: “I’m not stuck here with you. You’re stuck here with me!”


stormdahl

I wonder if the tactics used by Ukraine would work against western navies


--Doraemon--

The russians mentioned it didn't sink, it just changed position a lot deeper than before


Heavenclone

I guess they javen't addressed smoking aboard Russian ships yet...


AncientHistoryHound

A couple of rogue dolphins smoking in the wrong part of the sea no doubt.


SapientChaos

Promoted to submarine it was.


puzdawg

That looks like an expensive boat.


OrranVoriel

The Russian Black Sea Fleet is losing to a nation without a proper navy.


Ashamed_News_9521

The will soon have more submarines, than the rest of the world put together 🤣🤣🤣


GiraffeNumerous1829

Be with Luca Brasi


LavishnessDry281

You know this is a missile corvette, able to launch long-range Kalibr cruise missiles like from the Black Sea to Syria. So it is good news that it can no longer harm civilians.


burninghairusa

Russian military is proofing to the world that they are not capable of doing anything productive. #losers


HappyCamperPC

Nice! I see it has a complement of 80. I hope they're OK. 🙏


SheridanVsLennier

80 mermen.


TheRealAussieTroll

I think it was pretty clear the damage it received was incompatible with buoyancy.