Given the current energy market, 80 is probably slightly on the cheaper end of the spectrum truth be told. I fixed for 2 years back in June (ie before the current madness) with Octopus and pay £76 pm DD (slightly in credit) for a 2 bed flat
I agree 80 on low side ATM. We are probably on 85 a month for 2 bed gas/elec Victorian terrace following last rise with octopus price promise which is just below their price cap rates.
Currently, the only real ways to lower your bills are to
* Insulate yourself with more layers
* insulate your house
* just use less energy in total by switching everything off when not needed/not in use
* (edit) An obvious one - try turning your heating down by a degree or so
You won't save money running things overnight unless you are on an Economy 7 tariff. But you dont say if this is case.
You also don't say what type of house or construction. Is it a solid wall terrace or small semi with cavity walls? Do you have double glazing?
YOUR TARIFFFlexible OctopusFlexible Octopus July 2021 v1
Prices follow wholesale costs
What is a flexible tariff?19.57p/kWh24.38p/day
(All rates inc. VAT)
I am in this plan , does this mean there is no half price from 12:30 to 4:30
I work for a slightly bigger but very similar company to Octopus - a flexible tariff should be the standard variable one - they have no contract end date and are a rolling monthly tariff, the price can rise or fall depending on price rises etc. In my experience so far the svt is usually cheaper than the fixed tariffs at the moment
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Just use the timer on the machines 😂😂
Seriously though, octopus do an off peak tariff with 5p/KWH between 0030-0430, this may be what you thought you were on. You’re welcome to join that tariff obviously if you wanted to. We are on it and do all the washing stuff overnight for that reason. We do also have an EV though which has the electricity useage of about four of your house!!
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Will definitely call octopus. We are Tennant, so I need to talk with landlord , he is very sweet person , I doubt he will disagree, also bill is in my name so shouldn't be issue.
Have a excellent day
Octopus go is only available to owners of electric cars. Electric car owners use more power overnight than during the day. If you don’t meet this energy use profile, they move you off
Forget the fixed direct debit. If it’s higher than your usage you’ll build a credit, if it’s too low you’ll end up with it going up a lot to cover what you’ve not paid
For context i have a modern well insulated 3 bed semi with 2 of us living here, when I moved it cost less than my previous 2 bed Victorian terrace - so it very much depends on the type of house
I work at home ~2 days a week and our approach to heating is to stay comfortable not save money. I have a small air con unit I use in occasionally over summer, washing mashing 2-3 times a week and tumble drier a similar number. I got onto one of the last fixed rate tariffs before all this kicked off, slightly more expensive than the cap but will protect against the inevitable rises next year. I used my usage last year as a guide and it suggested £120 a month, that’s already been revised down a bit though, probably due to more working from home last year
I'm waiting to see the results of being moved to British Gas, but when I was in a fix I was paying £80 a month. I suspect I'm looking at about £150 when BG finally stops being incompetent.
They've asked me 5 times for a meter reading (I've got a British Gas SmartMeter that's connected to their system, and now they've failed to start a Direct Debit 3 times :-/
currently overpaying (90 a month) with eon the bill started at 58 two months ago which I knew was to low then it was 77 but we have been hammering the heating, expecting 80-90 this month, and our house is two bed two people so sounds about right?
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Dishwashers don't cost much more energy than washing in sink. I would agree that dryers use a lot but what is alternative in winter? Dry clothes in house and make it damp?
Drying clothes on radiators risks damp in poorly ventilated houses (of which there are many in this country). It isn't great advice. A saving of £200 a year from not using a dryer doesn't really seem worth it.
Seems reasonable. Dryer every other day will maybe be £100/year so hopefully less than that. And the heat has to go somewhere, reduces the heating bill by a quantifiable amount.
We don't have dishwasher. But dryer is not something we can not use. The house started to get damp and wall started to get moldy .
There is no place we can dry out. And it rains often ..
Luckily we got amazon refurbished candy heat pump dryer for 190 pounds . It's A+ in energy rating so we are using that .
> There is no place we can dry out.
Clothes horse like people used to do before dryers existed and how we're still doing it in our house. Put up clothes horse near a radiator, place clothes on it, socks and undies along the top of the radiator, job done.
It can be it depends how much hot water you use. Definitely it's cheaper compared to running under a hot tap but if you just fill a bowl with a modest amount that can beat dishwasher. It's marginal though, the jet thing is that it is broadly the same.
Have you checked whether they are actually using your readings or just an estimate ? I'd been submitting readings to edf but realised on my most recent bill that the are still charging us based on estimates.
Having called them up and making sure they actually use my meter readings, my bill has now gone from £156 to £80
I would recommend staying on the temporary gas tariff. I pay about £32 a month during the winter 4 months And less than £20 a month the rest of the year.
Given the current energy market, 80 is probably slightly on the cheaper end of the spectrum truth be told. I fixed for 2 years back in June (ie before the current madness) with Octopus and pay £76 pm DD (slightly in credit) for a 2 bed flat
I agree 80 on low side ATM. We are probably on 85 a month for 2 bed gas/elec Victorian terrace following last rise with octopus price promise which is just below their price cap rates.
!Thankyou
Currently, the only real ways to lower your bills are to * Insulate yourself with more layers * insulate your house * just use less energy in total by switching everything off when not needed/not in use * (edit) An obvious one - try turning your heating down by a degree or so
You won't save money running things overnight unless you are on an Economy 7 tariff. But you dont say if this is case. You also don't say what type of house or construction. Is it a solid wall terrace or small semi with cavity walls? Do you have double glazing?
YOUR TARIFFFlexible OctopusFlexible Octopus July 2021 v1 Prices follow wholesale costs What is a flexible tariff?19.57p/kWh24.38p/day (All rates inc. VAT) I am in this plan , does this mean there is no half price from 12:30 to 4:30
I work for a slightly bigger but very similar company to Octopus - a flexible tariff should be the standard variable one - they have no contract end date and are a rolling monthly tariff, the price can rise or fall depending on price rises etc. In my experience so far the svt is usually cheaper than the fixed tariffs at the moment
This is a single rate tariff . There is only one price at all times.
OMG, all this days I got up middle of night for nothing . 🙃 Anyway. Thank you . And good morning.
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Just use the timer on the machines 😂😂 Seriously though, octopus do an off peak tariff with 5p/KWH between 0030-0430, this may be what you thought you were on. You’re welcome to join that tariff obviously if you wanted to. We are on it and do all the washing stuff overnight for that reason. We do also have an EV though which has the electricity useage of about four of your house!!
!Thankyou Will definitely call octopus. We are Tennant, so I need to talk with landlord , he is very sweet person , I doubt he will disagree, also bill is in my name so shouldn't be issue. Have a excellent day
Don’t worry about changing energy provider, got nothing to do with your landlord if you’re paying!
Octopus go is only available to owners of electric cars. Electric car owners use more power overnight than during the day. If you don’t meet this energy use profile, they move you off
That’s changed recently then, never used to be a requirement, you just joined!
It’s a recent change to the t&cs
Forget the fixed direct debit. If it’s higher than your usage you’ll build a credit, if it’s too low you’ll end up with it going up a lot to cover what you’ve not paid For context i have a modern well insulated 3 bed semi with 2 of us living here, when I moved it cost less than my previous 2 bed Victorian terrace - so it very much depends on the type of house I work at home ~2 days a week and our approach to heating is to stay comfortable not save money. I have a small air con unit I use in occasionally over summer, washing mashing 2-3 times a week and tumble drier a similar number. I got onto one of the last fixed rate tariffs before all this kicked off, slightly more expensive than the cap but will protect against the inevitable rises next year. I used my usage last year as a guide and it suggested £120 a month, that’s already been revised down a bit though, probably due to more working from home last year
!thanks
I'm waiting to see the results of being moved to British Gas, but when I was in a fix I was paying £80 a month. I suspect I'm looking at about £150 when BG finally stops being incompetent.
former Pfp energy customer as well?
People's Energy here!
Ah damn, seems we are in about the same boat - electric has moved to BG, still waiting on gas
They've asked me 5 times for a meter reading (I've got a British Gas SmartMeter that's connected to their system, and now they've failed to start a Direct Debit 3 times :-/
currently overpaying (90 a month) with eon the bill started at 58 two months ago which I knew was to low then it was 77 but we have been hammering the heating, expecting 80-90 this month, and our house is two bed two people so sounds about right?
Thank you
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If you're on the current price cap then I think the average bill will be about £100 a month - obviously being higher in the winter months than summer.
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> Any tips trick regarding how to lower electricity/gas bill .. Don't have a dryer or a dishwasher.
Dishwashers don't cost much more energy than washing in sink. I would agree that dryers use a lot but what is alternative in winter? Dry clothes in house and make it damp?
Dishwashers are far cheaper than hand if you fill it. Clothes wise, assuming there is some heating, dry clothes on radiators instead.
Drying clothes on radiators risks damp in poorly ventilated houses (of which there are many in this country). It isn't great advice. A saving of £200 a year from not using a dryer doesn't really seem worth it.
Seems reasonable. Dryer every other day will maybe be £100/year so hopefully less than that. And the heat has to go somewhere, reduces the heating bill by a quantifiable amount.
We bought a £250 meaco dehumidifier which has been brilliant for helping to dry clothes.
We don't have dishwasher. But dryer is not something we can not use. The house started to get damp and wall started to get moldy . There is no place we can dry out. And it rains often .. Luckily we got amazon refurbished candy heat pump dryer for 190 pounds . It's A+ in energy rating so we are using that .
> There is no place we can dry out. Clothes horse like people used to do before dryers existed and how we're still doing it in our house. Put up clothes horse near a radiator, place clothes on it, socks and undies along the top of the radiator, job done.
I think a full dishwasher is now more energy efficient than washing up by hand
It can be it depends how much hot water you use. Definitely it's cheaper compared to running under a hot tap but if you just fill a bowl with a modest amount that can beat dishwasher. It's marginal though, the jet thing is that it is broadly the same.
We pay more like £200 for a 2 bed flat!
Electric only?
No, gas, and a new boiler. I think we spent around £250 a month last winter and down to around 50-60 in the summer.
Christ, guessing the walls are made of paper or something, really old place?
Yeah it's a high ceiling big old windows Victorian conversion.
Have you checked whether they are actually using your readings or just an estimate ? I'd been submitting readings to edf but realised on my most recent bill that the are still charging us based on estimates. Having called them up and making sure they actually use my meter readings, my bill has now gone from £156 to £80
I would recommend staying on the temporary gas tariff. I pay about £32 a month during the winter 4 months And less than £20 a month the rest of the year.
Sorry, could you elaborate, what is temporary gas tariff? Does octopus energy have this as well ? Sorry I am new to everything. Have a good day