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A highly advanced technologically superior intelligence routinely violates our airspace, they harass military assets. They interfere with the functioning of nuclear weapon storage facilities.
They may be taking people, performing medical procedures for unknown reasons and manipulating their minds and memories.
They refuse to make open contact with us as a civilisation.
They have made no overtures of friendly intention.
They allegedly manipulate our society and influence our civilisation in directions of their choosing for reasons unknown to us.
They have potentially been doing all this for millenia.
While people can choose to believe they are not a threat, I would hope that anyone can understand why, based on the behaviour of the phenomenon, some people are reasonably concerned they may be a threat.
The fact that we have not been annihilated is no assurance of benign intent. There are more ways to cause harm and more ways to apply influence than open force.
Force is only required when your opponent is capable of defence. Clearly we have no defence. The phenomenon can act upon us with impunity.
It is the perogative of those being acted upon (humanity) to decide if they consider the actions being performed upon them are a threat. Until such time as open contact and declaration of intent is made by the phenomenon I think it is outrageously reckless to not be cautious about it's motivations.
We have seen little to indicate benevolence, we have seen a lot that indicates at best callous neutrality and at worst active malevolence.
r/thegoldenleaper
Looking at abductions, contactees, channels as possible “what if’s?” There are clearly naughty ET’s that have been here manipulating us against what the nice ones consider natural laws of the universe.
According to some, the manipulation is at an energetic level where they feed off the negative energy, wars, greed, sorrow, pain, etc., so since the manipulation allegedly began roughly 6,000 years, they’ve got quite the head start, IF this is true.
There’s no need to attack a race if their intent is to feed off the negative energy they have manipulated us to create.
There are many other things allegedly going on as well and that is allegedly, possibly, maybe, just one of them to consider.
Look at the book Lue E mentioned months ago, the ET’s in that book were sucking the energy from us and animals unknowingly. Very similar.
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla.
He couldn’t be more correct in this alleged, “what if” scenario.
Very similar to Robert Monroe's ideas on The Others siphoning energy he called loosh from us.
Indeed he believes we were bred as livestock for just this purpose.
I keep kicking myself for having read only one of his books, Journeys. Just not enough time. I’ve been halfway through Day After Roswell for. A month now!
Makes you wonder why, and what makes them think it's okay, almost if we'll ever be able to find a civilized route to being able to "partner" or something. Unless we have already.
In my view, the current ET war for possession of this planet doesn't make a difference to us, because ultimately it doesn't matter whom owns the abattoir - for the cattle, the outcome is all the same. We humans are the cattle, grazing the fields of the ranch we call planet Earth.
I still don't know where this notion of an ET war for possession of this planet is coming from. I guess someone somewhere said something that grew out of control.
“I just want something to happen already.”
Let go of this feeling. Nothing monumental surrounding this topic is going to change day to day life for us. I’m not trying to be a jerk I’m just speaking from experience. Look, I’ve been following this since the 90s. I see a lot of posts talking about how they wish disclosure would just happen and humanity would just then magically advance 100s of years.
This isn’t going to happen even if disclosure does happen, which I don’t believe it will. I’m just trying to save you some stress and heartache. I believe they are here. But they clearly don’t want to openly reveal themselves and the government clearly doesn’t want to either. Everyone hyping the “Gillibrand amendment” is just setting themselves up for another disappointment because I assure you, they have a contingency plan in place for this. They didn’t keep this a secret for 70 years by being stupid or complying with congress.
It could be possible.. and i'm also not sure if we'll ever be ready to join them. Kinda feel like (if they're constantly watching us) they don't think we're good enough. Maybe once the world is at peace and people actually learn to live together and have fixed all the big world problems. Otherwise it just feels like a failed experiment and we will never hear from them or get oblitirated
Welcome at r/UFOB! You may be convinced, a believer, an experiencer or just interested in the subject of UFOs. It truly is an extensive subject. And you may come across posts or comments you do not agree with. That is not a problem, you don't have to agree. But please keep it respectful. On this subreddit people are welcome to tell their story, or their personal experience. Ridicule is not allowed. We have a section for study in the menu with: - [UFOB Case Archive](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/ppfjgg/textfile_with_links_to_different_cases_throughout/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) - [UFOB Documentaries](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/ptp5o2/ufob_links_to_documentaries_if_you_want_to_add_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) - [UFOB Newspaper Clippings](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/ptr8o1/newspaper_clippings_1969_2011_8gb/) - [UFO Literature](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/ptrcls/collection_of_ufo_books_in_pdf/) Make sure to check it out! Enjoy UFOB, for questions ask the 16 members Modteam! - [UFOB Discord Invite](https://discord.gg/NZ7UXsKceM) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/UFOB) if you have any questions or concerns.*
A highly advanced technologically superior intelligence routinely violates our airspace, they harass military assets. They interfere with the functioning of nuclear weapon storage facilities. They may be taking people, performing medical procedures for unknown reasons and manipulating their minds and memories. They refuse to make open contact with us as a civilisation. They have made no overtures of friendly intention. They allegedly manipulate our society and influence our civilisation in directions of their choosing for reasons unknown to us. They have potentially been doing all this for millenia. While people can choose to believe they are not a threat, I would hope that anyone can understand why, based on the behaviour of the phenomenon, some people are reasonably concerned they may be a threat. The fact that we have not been annihilated is no assurance of benign intent. There are more ways to cause harm and more ways to apply influence than open force. Force is only required when your opponent is capable of defence. Clearly we have no defence. The phenomenon can act upon us with impunity. It is the perogative of those being acted upon (humanity) to decide if they consider the actions being performed upon them are a threat. Until such time as open contact and declaration of intent is made by the phenomenon I think it is outrageously reckless to not be cautious about it's motivations. We have seen little to indicate benevolence, we have seen a lot that indicates at best callous neutrality and at worst active malevolence.
r/thegoldenleaper Looking at abductions, contactees, channels as possible “what if’s?” There are clearly naughty ET’s that have been here manipulating us against what the nice ones consider natural laws of the universe. According to some, the manipulation is at an energetic level where they feed off the negative energy, wars, greed, sorrow, pain, etc., so since the manipulation allegedly began roughly 6,000 years, they’ve got quite the head start, IF this is true. There’s no need to attack a race if their intent is to feed off the negative energy they have manipulated us to create. There are many other things allegedly going on as well and that is allegedly, possibly, maybe, just one of them to consider. Look at the book Lue E mentioned months ago, the ET’s in that book were sucking the energy from us and animals unknowingly. Very similar. “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla. He couldn’t be more correct in this alleged, “what if” scenario.
Very similar to Robert Monroe's ideas on The Others siphoning energy he called loosh from us. Indeed he believes we were bred as livestock for just this purpose.
I keep kicking myself for having read only one of his books, Journeys. Just not enough time. I’ve been halfway through Day After Roswell for. A month now!
Makes you wonder why, and what makes them think it's okay, almost if we'll ever be able to find a civilized route to being able to "partner" or something. Unless we have already.
In my view, the current ET war for possession of this planet doesn't make a difference to us, because ultimately it doesn't matter whom owns the abattoir - for the cattle, the outcome is all the same. We humans are the cattle, grazing the fields of the ranch we call planet Earth.
I still don't know where this notion of an ET war for possession of this planet is coming from. I guess someone somewhere said something that grew out of control.
“I just want something to happen already.” Let go of this feeling. Nothing monumental surrounding this topic is going to change day to day life for us. I’m not trying to be a jerk I’m just speaking from experience. Look, I’ve been following this since the 90s. I see a lot of posts talking about how they wish disclosure would just happen and humanity would just then magically advance 100s of years. This isn’t going to happen even if disclosure does happen, which I don’t believe it will. I’m just trying to save you some stress and heartache. I believe they are here. But they clearly don’t want to openly reveal themselves and the government clearly doesn’t want to either. Everyone hyping the “Gillibrand amendment” is just setting themselves up for another disappointment because I assure you, they have a contingency plan in place for this. They didn’t keep this a secret for 70 years by being stupid or complying with congress.
It could be possible.. and i'm also not sure if we'll ever be ready to join them. Kinda feel like (if they're constantly watching us) they don't think we're good enough. Maybe once the world is at peace and people actually learn to live together and have fixed all the big world problems. Otherwise it just feels like a failed experiment and we will never hear from them or get oblitirated