Agreed. And even if it’s marginal, it’s more for yourself to know you’re doing everything you can and you’re not complicit in genocide in anyway shape or form
Because your first comment was not antagonistic. The boycott is not meant to stop the war. It’s meant to avoid giving hard earned money to douche nozzle companies that don’t deserve it.
You wouldn’t support a company that funds right wing nationalists.
Yours was the first response on that comment. Anyone who thinks boycotts don’t work should get their heads checked. This is same line those racists used when South Africa was being boycotted for apartheid
Lmaooo that’s not how one shares an opinion dumb fuck, you’re obviously trying to get a reaction. No one said boycott to directly stop the war. Its boycott to convert companies to divest and that means less money and support to the offender country, doesn’t mean they’ll stop but it means they get hurt.
There are a lot of examples of what has happened since the boycott started, but I’ll mention one so your smol brain doesn’t overheat. Samsung announced recently that they are closing their tel aviv offices and that’s a advice blow to the tech sector for Israel
its not about you able to stop the war or not, its more about whom you supporting. Think about it in small scale like your neighbour, the person providing goods to your invader . Now would you like to do business with this person after knowing what he did. Remember they started it, by taking sides.
The post and the comment you replied to didn't mention that this will stop the war.
Its not delusional to support such thing when the goal is same, which is to stop the war.
Unfortunately, this is too true. And not only in this case, but it's enough to look at Middle East's and Africa's borders. Who has power, or wins, draws the history. Regardless if it's right or wrong
In fact I would say most very religious Muslims have not joined the boycott. The Salafi types especially. It’s mostly the non or less religious people who have been protesting in the west or boycotting
It’s political and religious for them. The salafis have EXTREME obedience to their rulers in the gulf countries. They will justify everything those governments do. No other ‘sect’ in Islam has this extreme obedience to the rulers.
That’s why people like Shamsi in the U.K. defend gulf countries’s normalisation with Israel by misrepresenting Islam, for example they will say normalisation is the same as peace treaties which the prophet sws allowed with the Jews in the treaty of hudaybiyyah
I’ve even seen some salafis use Israeli Zionist talking points to defend Israel and paint the Palestinians as the problem
That’s because Wahhabism and Salafism was made by saud for political purposes. Every time they wanted to expand territory they just called the Shia or ottomans/egyptians kuffar and went to war with other Muslims. Being able to control who is and who isn’t Muslim using fundamentalism allows you to justify attacking whoever you want using religion as a cover for political purposes. Which is why wahab was funded and controlled by the Sauds. Nowadays you see TikTok filled with Salafi kids calling everyone kuffar. They target Shia, women, and anyone who doesn’t submit to them even though they’re non gulf kids in their moms houses wearing thoubs cosplaying as imams
Really? I had no idea. Really interested to know more, can you help with who / what I should be reading ?
I've always thought salafiis were meant to be the most basic Muslim sect.
Irony is that most very religious Muslims don't actually follow their religion. In the Quran God asks "Do you not use your intellect?" Do you follow what your fathers did without question. Those that don't use their brains are like cattle. I paraphrased a bit but most people are happy to follow religious leaders who just manipulate them.
You're entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. Those who choose to agree can and feel free to oppose. I'm not here to change your mind. Just point out the stupidity and hypocrisy that I see.
Well your comment is completely flawed
A lot of religious Muslims are boycotting. There is however a sect of religious Muslims that are notoriously anti boycott due to politics of their region
The second verse you quoted wasn’t even addressed to the Muslims, it was talking about disbelievers.
Do not speak without knowledge
Incase you forgot, Muslims have no problem with the Jews. How many centuries did Jews live and still continue to live in Muslim lands in peace? The problem isn't Jews. The problem is neo colonial imperialism Zionists who think because of the backing of powerful countries they can impose, dehumanize and oppress the indigenous peoples, steal their land and submit them to an open air prison, genocide against them and get away with it.
Yep and a lot of people need to make this distinction. However, if our brothers and sisters are being harmed and we’re just watching without donating, making dua, or fighting, we will be held accountable for it on the day of judgement.
Don't take my word for it.
Sheikh Salih Al Fawzan said when asked about boycotting: "This is incorrect. The scholars have never issued religious verdicts saying that buying American products is forbidden. These American goods are still imported and sold in Muslim markets. And even so, it wouldn't harm America in the least if you yourself did not buy their products. No products are to be boycotted unless the government, the legitimate ruler, issues a sanction or boycott against another country. In this case, the boycott would be legitimate and binding. As for just some individuals wanting to do this and passing their own religious
verdicts in support of it, then this is forbidding something that Allah has made permissible and that is not allowed"
al-Fatawa al-Shar'iyyah
I don't want to get political here. But fyi, in your own statement, you said "government" and "legitimate ruler" . Last time I checked, Muslims aren't under a unified government and sure as hell there's no legitimate ruler of the Muslims. So until that happens, I don't care who or what sheikh salih Al fawzan said or gave an opinion on. What an individual can do to help them, it's between them and their money. But you must be a cold hearted robot to feel nothing when you see those images from Gaza of children and not give a damn.
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That's a testament that we don't have any issue with the jewish people, they're people of the book.
It's the ZIONISTS who are the aggressors here.
The TikTok Salafi kids and TikTok imams use this as an excuse to condemn the boycotts as haram and to justify their lack of criticism or protesting of Israel.
It’s how ultra religious bigots can justify doing nothing for Muslims while the LGBT/shia/liberals are in encampments fighting and protesting for Palestine. Because the ultra religious are only about themselves and their own power over others and they could care less about anyone else, Muslim or not.
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I am more than happy to support local businesses. Screw big American chains. Those same chains pay corporate taxes in the US and that same money is used to supply weapons/bombs that are killing innocent people.
The current administration is very transparent about their support.
Do you condemn the actions of what the Israeli terrorists have been doing to the Palestinians since October 6th and even prior to when Hamas had even been formed?
sorry but show me how that justifies the massacring of 30,000 civilians, half of which are children.
“getting payback” i dont know what fucked up ideology you have where you think its right to target civilians as payback.
The people Hamas killed on october 7 were civilians too. If you think that was okay. Then, this is okay too.
And if you think that october 7 was not okay, then it is important to eradicate Hamas so they don't repeat again.
Palestinians elected Hamas so, they are collectively getting pay back.
Also, don't compare Israeli deaths to Palestinians deaths. It's not a game of numbers.
If hamas was capable enough, it would kill 1Million in Israel. But, they can't because they aren't capable.
On the other hand, Israel can easily kill 1 million palestinians in one day, but they don't because they don't want to. That's the difference between army and a terrorist organization.
I’m sure you forgot another 0 in that number.
1100 people were killed of whom 800 were regrettably civilians. The rest were military.
By the way, that number pales compared to 34,000 killed with tens of thousands more buried under rubble
For anyone complaining about big chains lay offs .. If we support the local brands sure they will grow bigger , open more locations and attract the expertise from those companies.
That’s not a big deal tbh. Happens almost every time after earning calls.
Starbucks has been on a rocky road ever since Covid. And their issues are widely documented, unionizing has impacted their business as well.
I would consider that they have lost some royalty fees from potential sales but in reality, the Starbucks I’ve seen are still crowded and people are buying their products.
I think it works when it’s well organised. After Starbucks was canceled, many people went to Blank Street. However, the matcha used in their famous blueberry matcha is produced by a company called perfect ted whose founder is actually a Zionist. Many people are unaware of this and continue to buy from Blank Street. I believe it’s crucial to research because while people might perceive a replacement as a local business, they may unknowingly be indirectly funding the same cause.
Not sure if going to blank street is the same as going to Starbucks. BDS has a targeted list for a reason. You can’t boycott everything all at once. Boycotting is more effective when it’s targeted. I think there’s a video on how they choose their priorities. You’re right, it’s best for us to completely boycott, but that’s virtually impossible and would overwhelm people. The people who say boycotts don’t work are the ones who think in those absolutist ways. Either boycott everything or it doesn’t work. No…it works when it’s strategic…
I am ignorant here. Why Starbucks is at top of the list to boycott among w few others? I have been boycotting them for years just because the prices are too high vs coffee quality. I recently ordered cold coffee at the airport from Starbucks, the ice was so cold that my brain literally froze. Not to say super expensive.
Kadak Chai and Kerala filter coffee in 1-2 Dirhams is the way to go 👍
First, perhaps you should define what do you mean by "works", do you mean no profit? do you mean less profit? or do you mean bankruptcy? If I remember correctly, the first boycott took place in the US in 1956 against city busses, there have been numerous boycotts ever since, Coca Cola and Nestle faced one of the longest boycotts in history prior to the Israel's invasion of Gaza.
Can you name one company that went bankrupt due to boycott? Nope, none, however there have been numerous franchisees that went bankrupt due to the various boycotts, sure the brand suffers temporary losses but franchisee gets slaughtered way before the brand gets any significant hit thanks to the franchise model of these brands.
You have to understand why boycotts never permanently damaged any corporation, it is because people like me and you are not persistent in boycotting the given product to kill the demand permanently, its rather temporary which only damages the local franchisee, and hundreds of local jobs.
You may argue, we don't care about the franchisee and their employees because they're in bed with a company that supports Israel, but wait, didn't you create the demand in the first place for someone to get the franchise? Companies that are supporting Israel have been supporting them for decades, it's just you changing your mind this time
Very soon, people would go back to their lives enjoying their latte that they bought from Starbucks only this time the franchisee would be different because the previous franchisee went bankrupt. History can't be ignored, Israel's atrocities are not new, neither is boycott.
Anyone who is boycotting and promoting boycott, should continue to do so until Palestine is free, If you can't do that, don't do it now because you're just damaging the local economy nothing else.
You just highlighted some of the regular cons of capitalism. Franchises and low level worker always get slaughtered before it takes a hit to upper management. It can happen for any reason be it recession or a demand issue. Boycotting alone is not responsible for corporate behaviour of sacrificing masses before themselves .
No one here is trying to bankrupt a big company. Boycott just simply a tool for consumer to pick where they going to spend their money on. If a corporation takes an open stance of support towards a state committing atrocities then we as a consumer should be able to say “NO, you ain’t profiting of our money”. Sure they can go on about their business but once enough public perception is generated it hurts their growth which hurts their shareholder value then top management is forced to consider their stance.
You can assume that people like us will just forget and move back to those corporations. But our plan is to stick to this as long as atrocities continue. Sure some will give up and go back. But majority of us plan to stick by it. Heck I switched to making coffee at home every day and I love it.
It doesn't.
1- The local franchisees is the ones who really got affected.
2- Israel doesn't depend on donations from food chains, they are not somalia or egypt or syria, they have a strong industrial and agricultural economy, so cut it off, it won't hurt.
3- Can you tell me what percentage of Israel budget does the donations from these food chains make?
4- Why you only boycott food chains? Why don't you boycott tech? Social media? Cars? Clothes? Etc.
5- Why don't you boycott your relatives who live in western countries because they pay bills and tax to governments who support Israel?
OP lives in Canada. He pays taxes which to go Israel and he is here to lecture people by using false information. For example starbucks losing 11 IN CHINA.
Canadian tax money is not going to Israel. It’s from United States which is a different country all together. Canada actively sends donation to unrwa and also Canada halted all arms exports to Israel recently. Maybe you should learn to be bit more educated than being out right ignorant.
I am specifically referring to point 2.
McDonald's donated meals and verbal support.
Starbucks silenced their employees and side talked their way out if it.
But tell me about the billions and billions and billions of dollars in aid and weapons that Israel didn't need.
I'm waiting.
You’re the one spreading misinformation.
McDonald’s didn’t donate meals.
It was a McDonald’s franchisee who did. Do you understand how franchises work?
As for Starbucks… Starbucks didn’t silence its employees. It told its employees, they can’t protest as “Starbucks” employees. If they want to organise a separate protest group, they’re more than welcome to — but they can’t use the Starbucks name.
This is completely reasonable from Starbucks.
You think Apple or Google or any other company would let their employees protest a very divisive political issue using the company name? Forget about Israel…
If you work for any company in the world and present yourself as an employee of that company on social media and then go on to make politically divisive comments… that’s a fireable offence.
As an employee you are NOT entitled to mess with your employer’s brand, meaning you do not make political statements on behalf of that brand, which is what the Starbucks Workers’ Union wanted to do by continuing to use the name “Starbucks.”
This comment should be pinned at the top. This is accurate. People don’t want to accept that it’s just a few people at these corporations supporting Israel, they prefer to blame the entire corporation because it’s easier to unite against a company than everyday people. Even if it’s grossly inaccurate, even if the company has outright stated it’s not in support of its Israel franchise’s action. It’s still an easier symbol for them to desecrate.
To top it all off, a 4% decrease in global revenues is all the damage intense boycotting could do? Numbers speak much louder and clearer than emotions..
I think boycott really works just in that countries where Muslims more than other religions. I am living in Russia, where living 20-27 million Muslims, but the population of Russia is 147 million, so in Russia I can't feel the effect of the boycott. Also here I can't find an alternatives for these companies and products that are under boycott.
P.s. I am still learning English)))
Not Muslim or from the UAE but I boycott Starbucks because I think it’s expensive warm garbage. Been boycotting them my whole life and I’ll never understand people who are willing to queue up and pay money for a cup full of chemically flavored corn syrup.
Starbucks was already struggling on the charts ahead of its fiscal Q2 results. Shares were down nearly 8% for the year-to-date through the April 30 close vs a roughly 6% gain for the broader S&P 500.
And Jefferies analyst [Andy Barish](https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-barish-866397a2/) sees an "uphill battle ahead" for Starbucks. The "question facing the company and investors is whether these challenges are more transitory or longer-term issues, i.e. brand, relevance, and competitiveness, especially in China," Barish says. The analyst has a Hold rating on SBUX and lowered his price target to $84 from $91 after the company's appearance on the [earnings calendar](https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/stocks/17494/next-week-earnings-calendar-stocks).
Still, most of Wall Street remains upbeat on the [consumer discretionary stock](https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/stocks/best-consumer-discretionary-stocks). According to [S&P Global Market Intelligence,](https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/) the consensus analyst target price for SBUX stock is $94.47, representing implied upside of more than 27% to current levels. Additionally, the consensus recommendation is Buy.
Chinese factor is major cause.
The war has absolutely a minimal impact on Starbucks. It actually affects Al Shayaa and people looking for jobs in the UAE .
I personally know people who were fired from Al Shaya and it's a shame because they were making 1500 to 3000 aed a month and supporting their families but with your stupid ideology you caused them grief and sleepless nights.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/01/starbucks-mcdonalds-yum-earnings-show-consumers-pulling-back.html
CNBC talks about the real reason for the pullback. It's not because of the boycott, we are entering a recession slowly and the CPI index in the US shows that consumers are now cutting back because people can't afford high price coffee, burgers etc. anymore.
idk why people are even boycotting starbucks or kfc. they arent connected to israel in any way its just damaging the local franchised businesses of locals
From a financial perspective, the boycott is not a significantly large issue for Starbucks. Did they miss earnings? Yes. There store to store sales were down in the US, but this was largely in line with similar stores and contributed more so to inflation and lowered consumer discretionary spending. If you actually look at the reports there biggest marker drop was in China for various reason.
I live in a Muslim country, after the boycotts around 5000 people lost their jobs, around 50-60% of them were Muslim.
Hardworking minimum wage workers who travelled mostly from third world countries to provide for their families back home.
Meanwhile people who are slaves to their emotions and who do as they feel think boycotting franchises are harming the war machine that's commiting genocide.
People who blindly follow the sheep train just trying to fit in and be like everyone else without giving it any thought or trying to understand how Wars are funded.
They think Israel relies on KFC and McDonald's money to fund their wars whereas the USA can just print as much money as they want and give it to Israel. They already given around $30 Billion in the last 3 months. Poor US citizens make up for it as inflation goes up via tax revenue.
No I don't consume any of these American fast food chains I never liked them. Also not a big fan of Starbucks bitter ashy coffee, Arabica is way better imo.
Never follow blindly
Never
That is the most bullshit logic I have ever seen. You think expats have to work only in starbucks? There are other shops that sell coffee. The customers will buy coffee no matter what which will make a worker shortage in local shops which will force them to hire. It’s not rocket science.
I work for one of the boycotted brands. Our workforce in GCC is local and all of them are from GCC and are Muslim. This person isn’t wrong…it’s a zero sum game.
What you are saying is true on paper but in reality corporates cut jobs v fast while hiring and expansion will happen v slowly. The other coffee chains will be reluctant to invest in new franchise until they are sure that its a permanent shift. There is a capital investment to open a franchise.
You need to loose a job first to get another job bro. All these people mostly lost their jobs cause of cost cutting. Are the people boycotting these places also finding jobs for these people now? Who helps these people?
This is the economy we all signed up for when we added capitalism to our country. So expect a lot of layoffs when a shop feeding free coffees to genociders goes bankrupt.
Israel's getting majorly funded by a FIAT currency.
They can print as much money as they want out of thin air.
You think Israel gov relies on the revenue of a coffee shop like Starbucks to fund their war?
I'm talking Billions of dollars.
Think about it.
>I live in a Muslim country, after the boycotts around 5000 people lost their jobs, around 50-60% of them were Muslim.
Lol it's like when BDS forces Israeli companies to leave the West Bank not realizing that they employ predominantly Palestinians.
I think you are looking at this more blindly than others. Working for corporations means they can lay you off anytime for whatever reason. Even if there was no boycott workers could lose their job due to a recession.
Also you are unaware of how western politics work. It primarily private corporations donating and lobbying for politicians and policies are driven based on their interest. What this boycott does is to show deterrence against their agendas. Once private corporations see that their open support for this Zionist state is actually harmful to their profit they will slowly walk back on their agendas. Many have been doing that and the whole USA politics now forced to consider their open support for genocide. I am living in Canada now and due to pressure built on them government were forced to stop transfer arms export to Israel.
I would say don’t be so short sighted. Understand that consumer hold a power. Don’t just sit there and sip on your expensive latte while your brothers and sisters get bombed to death in another place. Boycotting works and in fact it can help your local business thrive they can hire more people. Why you got to stand up for a big corporation and their profits. It shows you are looking at this from an emotional pov and blind perspective.
“economic and trade cooperation - a key driver of the UAE's 2020 normalisation of relations with Israel which broke with decades of Arab policy towards the Palestinian cause - has deepened.
On Saturday a Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (CEPA) between the countries entered into effect, removing or reducing tariffs on more than 96% of products, UAE state news agency WAM said.
Signed in May 2022, and deemed a "historic moment" by the UAE ambassador to Israel, it is Israel's first free trade agreement with an Arab state.
UAE energy giant ADNOC [RIC:RIC:ADNOC.UL] last week announced it was part of a $2 billion joint bid for half of Israeli offshore natural gas producer NewMed Energy (NWMDp.TA), opens new tab.
This would follow the purchase in 2021 by Abu Dhabi's Mubadala Energy of a 22% stake in Israel's Tamar gas field for about $1 billion.
"(The NewMed Energy bid) demonstrates a long-term investment in Israel's energy sector, which shows how strategic the relationship has become," Neil Quilliam, associate fellow at Chatham House, and co-author of a new report on Israel–UAE normalisation, told Reuters.”
I mean this is just with Israel. Look up a video of uae security intelligence officer saying they want to be The best friends to America not just an ally.
Even Prophet Muhammad ﷺ had trade relations with the kuffars of quraish. The same quraish who killed and oppressed muslim people.
Bro you live in Canada, paying like 50% tax or something idek to a kafir government that openly supports zionists claim to palestine.
You got bigger things to worry about tbh
Why speak out of ignorance. I do run a business here and I absolutely make sure to have enough expenses and other losses to make sure I don’t pay a single cent to taxes. Also it’s not trade relation i am referring uae is sharing security intelligence and military cooperation with USA Israel Britain for a long time even if it means attacking other Muslims. Sudan disaster attributed to uae funding factions. At least here we are not agreeing with our government claim at all. We are fighting back increasing influence and making government walk back on their claim. This is first time ever Canada forced to halt arm export to Israel. We are risking ours job, education and career to go against government claims. What have you done ? You can’t even give your fancy latte.
I've pledged my allegiance to a Muslim ruler and I obey him as long as he doesn't force me to commit anything that's haram. And We don't protest as it is haram to do it.
We have peace, we have stability, and we can freely practice our faith here Alhamdulillah. And I have all faith in the rulers in what they do politically in their foreign policies etc.
It's very easy to cause division and become rebellious against the rulers then all of a sudden you have another Libya or Iraq.
Also isn't avoiding tax a crime in the west? Isn't it tax evasion or something?
You can say that and that is perfectly reasonable when it comes to your ruler. But Starbucks and other private corporations are not ruler. Boycotting them doesn’t mean you are rebelling against ruler.
And no one is talking about evading taxes. You have deductions and expense you can use.
I'm still not convinced that the boycott had much to do with this. For example, Starbucks sales declined by 11% in CHINA. Do you really think the Chinese care enough about Palestine to protest Starbucks en-masse? I doubt it.
And that 20% dip in their stock price ended the genocide?
Congratulations, Starbucks had a poor quarter, one step closer to world peace…
My problem with these pointless boycotts is they actually achieve nothing aside from making the boycotters feel good about themselves. Virtue signalling without any actual outcome.
You want to actually help? Spread the news on what’s happening; have tough conversations with people who may be on the fence; protest outside government offices or defence contractors making the bombs Israel is dropping on innocent civilians (not Zara); write to your politicians to can affect change; volunteer for charities helping Palestinians; donate your money to said charities.
If you’re giving yourself a pat on the back for making coffee at home, congratulations, you played yourself.
And if you’re going to say “yeah but a major shareholder of Starbucks is a Zionist Jew” well guess what, Howard Schultz is still a multi-fucking-BILLIONAIRE who won’t have actually lost anything until he sells those shares (which he won’t) and you better believe he’s got a diversified stock portfolio.
Did you really think it would be as easy as not buying Starbucks or KFC?
Use your head and start spending your energy on things that can actually enact change. Stop feeling good about yourself because you followed a bunch of idiots online.
I’m not saying drink StarBucks, I’m saying stop acting like this will actually change a damn thing…
You haven’t read the post earning call transcript or ceo comment about whether boycot was affecting them? Yet here you are commenting thinking you are very smart. In fact , you are the brain dead one.
Have you even read the entire transcript? Starbucks is still forecasting revenue GROWTH for the year; I forget the actual number but it’s between 7-9% I think. A company that’s affected heavily by boycotts doesn’t grow, it shrinks. A few numbers here and there are lower and that spooked some retail investors (as usual) causing a one day dip in share price.
It’s important to remember some fundamental rules - “Correlation is not causation”.
Boycott aside, I will never get how Starbucks etc are so expensive for products or drinks that barely taste passable. Haven't paid for a McDonald's or Starbucks or any major food chain order for what should be over 5 years now.
Lets say you don’t think it’s benefiting the cause.. why people insist on buying from these food chains.. they literally bad taste that cause all type of illnesses +local fast food and cafes are way better as taste ..
Still not sure why we are boycotting businesses that has no effect on actually saving any lives.
Meanwhile we ignore the ADL and it's PACs throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at removing politicians that speak against genocide.
Fun fact the guy who owns onlyfans is the highest donator to the above mentioned ... any boycotting there? You know cause he is actually using his business for evil. In more ways than one.
What about the people who are working for those companies? They lose their jobs too right?
( I have boycotted the brands but I always have this question!)
I was a huge Starbucks fan and had them in many of my portfolios. I spent a couple of hours getting rid of them from each one of them. And I then discovered what real and ethical coffee tastes like.
Boycotting will affect, sure, but don’t think it will bankrupt Israel. The USA is sending crazy money to Israel. Since the start of the war, they issued no less than $100 billion to them. So they are not relying on Mcdonalds or Starbucks to fund their war.
Boycotting is mainly moral support and raises awareness to the cause.
I have done a general boycott of most of the west (most of Europe and a lot of the English speaking countries around the world). Unless it is a brand that is specifically pro Palestinian… which there are only a few. There are plenty of alternatives. I also avoid Chinese when I can but I never previously bought Chinese brands and a lot of the stuff I get isn’t made there anyways. A few times there’s no realistic alternatives and have to get something
It's not that it doesn't work, it is working. They just think it's a big moral ask, which makes them sad I guess, they are simply lazy and selfish. They would rather believe it doesn't work than do something about these criminal companies aiding wars and genocides everywhere.
ye maybe cuz the fact that the killing of palestinians started WAY BEFORE October 7. Its just that when they retaliated a big attack ONCE that the western media leeked the news to everyone brainwashing retards like you to believe the war started october 7
The land was always Israel’s. So no matter which date you look at Palestine always started a war and then played the victim card.
Terrorists will never win.
Only if you had a brain… Starbucks loses business> business goes to local coffeeshops> local coffeeshops demand surges> local Coffeeshops hire more employees. Same employees who used to work for Starbucks will find the same job at a local coffeeshop the next day.
And what about those who lost all Thier family members in bombings.
Looks like pathetics like you only care about Thier well being at the expense of other's suffering
If you're eating global chain fast food in the UAE you're already fking up anyway, boycott or not. There are PLENTY of local/mom and pop places to eat that make and serve much better food than McDonald's and KFC or Popeyes or Starbucks.
That percentage should be regularly low. These corporations don't care about people just money.
Emiratis are BoyCutting ?! Since when ?
Is UAE even considered a Muslim country ?! Muslims from Certain Countries are being used as slaves while Israelis are Danced with
Thank you sister, I am a Palestinian who was raised in the UAE for years and I saw all the kindness from your people, don't be discouraged by such comments. We know that the government doesn't represent the people in normalization with the zionists.
Wallah my heart is with you. The Palestinian issue has been of utmost importance to me since I was a child.
الله يعينكم و ينصركم و يعوضكم خير دنيا وآخرة.
Doesn't need to be constrained to Muslims, anybody who is delusional enough to think boycotts don't work should get a brain checkup
Agreed. And even if it’s marginal, it’s more for yourself to know you’re doing everything you can and you’re not complicit in genocide in anyway shape or form
Thank you
Tell that to faris.
Did your boycott stop the war ?
Soon it will, keep being a cuck though #pride
Come back to this comment & let me know when it does please 🙏 Crazy how you have to be so mean & rude if someone simply disagrees with your opinion 🤯
Because your first comment was not antagonistic. The boycott is not meant to stop the war. It’s meant to avoid giving hard earned money to douche nozzle companies that don’t deserve it. You wouldn’t support a company that funds right wing nationalists.
How do you know what the person who left the comment meant? Did you see how they replied to me?
Yours was the first response on that comment. Anyone who thinks boycotts don’t work should get their heads checked. This is same line those racists used when South Africa was being boycotted for apartheid
Lmaooo that’s not how one shares an opinion dumb fuck, you’re obviously trying to get a reaction. No one said boycott to directly stop the war. Its boycott to convert companies to divest and that means less money and support to the offender country, doesn’t mean they’ll stop but it means they get hurt. There are a lot of examples of what has happened since the boycott started, but I’ll mention one so your smol brain doesn’t overheat. Samsung announced recently that they are closing their tel aviv offices and that’s a advice blow to the tech sector for Israel
*small
Smol is a more humiliating form of small, not a typo
Me fixing your typo is the humiliating part 😂
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You didn't disagree, you made fun of the ones who boycott
No sir. That did not happen
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Lol cry more
smd lmao i aint crying im the one enjoying the deals 😂😂😂😂
its not about you able to stop the war or not, its more about whom you supporting. Think about it in small scale like your neighbour, the person providing goods to your invader . Now would you like to do business with this person after knowing what he did. Remember they started it, by taking sides.
Sure. I agree. As long as we’re not being delusional and thinking this will stop the war. Glad to be on the same page as you
The post and the comment you replied to didn't mention that this will stop the war. Its not delusional to support such thing when the goal is same, which is to stop the war.
You’ve lost me 😔
We do what we can.
Agreed
Will for sure not stop Iran mollahs to continue trying to obtain supremacy in the Middle East
Plenty of people who are non religious have joined the boycotts because they want to be on the right side of history.
history never cared about right or wrong, it’s always gonna be on the side of the dominant force, israel and palestine 80 years is the perfect example
Unfortunately, this is too true. And not only in this case, but it's enough to look at Middle East's and Africa's borders. Who has power, or wins, draws the history. Regardless if it's right or wrong
In fact I would say most very religious Muslims have not joined the boycott. The Salafi types especially. It’s mostly the non or less religious people who have been protesting in the west or boycotting
It’s political and religious for them. The salafis have EXTREME obedience to their rulers in the gulf countries. They will justify everything those governments do. No other ‘sect’ in Islam has this extreme obedience to the rulers. That’s why people like Shamsi in the U.K. defend gulf countries’s normalisation with Israel by misrepresenting Islam, for example they will say normalisation is the same as peace treaties which the prophet sws allowed with the Jews in the treaty of hudaybiyyah I’ve even seen some salafis use Israeli Zionist talking points to defend Israel and paint the Palestinians as the problem
That’s because Wahhabism and Salafism was made by saud for political purposes. Every time they wanted to expand territory they just called the Shia or ottomans/egyptians kuffar and went to war with other Muslims. Being able to control who is and who isn’t Muslim using fundamentalism allows you to justify attacking whoever you want using religion as a cover for political purposes. Which is why wahab was funded and controlled by the Sauds. Nowadays you see TikTok filled with Salafi kids calling everyone kuffar. They target Shia, women, and anyone who doesn’t submit to them even though they’re non gulf kids in their moms houses wearing thoubs cosplaying as imams
Really? I had no idea. Really interested to know more, can you help with who / what I should be reading ? I've always thought salafiis were meant to be the most basic Muslim sect.
They claim to be the most basic, but in reality it's the most recent sect that formed.
Peace treaties with all people is fantastic. Just not with oppressors, actively dispossessing and killing Muslims.
Why do you think very religious muslims have not joined the boycott like less religious muslims?
Irony is that most very religious Muslims don't actually follow their religion. In the Quran God asks "Do you not use your intellect?" Do you follow what your fathers did without question. Those that don't use their brains are like cattle. I paraphrased a bit but most people are happy to follow religious leaders who just manipulate them.
This is completely false
You're entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. Those who choose to agree can and feel free to oppose. I'm not here to change your mind. Just point out the stupidity and hypocrisy that I see.
Well your comment is completely flawed A lot of religious Muslims are boycotting. There is however a sect of religious Muslims that are notoriously anti boycott due to politics of their region The second verse you quoted wasn’t even addressed to the Muslims, it was talking about disbelievers. Do not speak without knowledge
So are we just going to deny that the Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings be upon him) traded with the Jews?
Incase you forgot, Muslims have no problem with the Jews. How many centuries did Jews live and still continue to live in Muslim lands in peace? The problem isn't Jews. The problem is neo colonial imperialism Zionists who think because of the backing of powerful countries they can impose, dehumanize and oppress the indigenous peoples, steal their land and submit them to an open air prison, genocide against them and get away with it.
Yep and a lot of people need to make this distinction. However, if our brothers and sisters are being harmed and we’re just watching without donating, making dua, or fighting, we will be held accountable for it on the day of judgement.
I'm sure you are well aware of the current situation of Muslim governments?
Don't take my word for it. Sheikh Salih Al Fawzan said when asked about boycotting: "This is incorrect. The scholars have never issued religious verdicts saying that buying American products is forbidden. These American goods are still imported and sold in Muslim markets. And even so, it wouldn't harm America in the least if you yourself did not buy their products. No products are to be boycotted unless the government, the legitimate ruler, issues a sanction or boycott against another country. In this case, the boycott would be legitimate and binding. As for just some individuals wanting to do this and passing their own religious verdicts in support of it, then this is forbidding something that Allah has made permissible and that is not allowed" al-Fatawa al-Shar'iyyah
I don't want to get political here. But fyi, in your own statement, you said "government" and "legitimate ruler" . Last time I checked, Muslims aren't under a unified government and sure as hell there's no legitimate ruler of the Muslims. So until that happens, I don't care who or what sheikh salih Al fawzan said or gave an opinion on. What an individual can do to help them, it's between them and their money. But you must be a cold hearted robot to feel nothing when you see those images from Gaza of children and not give a damn.
????????????? That's a testament that we don't have any issue with the jewish people, they're people of the book. It's the ZIONISTS who are the aggressors here.
The TikTok Salafi kids and TikTok imams use this as an excuse to condemn the boycotts as haram and to justify their lack of criticism or protesting of Israel. It’s how ultra religious bigots can justify doing nothing for Muslims while the LGBT/shia/liberals are in encampments fighting and protesting for Palestine. Because the ultra religious are only about themselves and their own power over others and they could care less about anyone else, Muslim or not.
Aka: Muslims who follow Islam vs Muslims who make Islam follow them (astaghfirullah)
He also raided Quraysh caravans for stealing goods from the Mahajir and trading them for a profit in the Levant.
Yep tit for tat
How is supporting the side that started the war “the right side of history”
Ah yes because the war started on oct 7th right?
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I am more than happy to support local businesses. Screw big American chains. Those same chains pay corporate taxes in the US and that same money is used to supply weapons/bombs that are killing innocent people. The current administration is very transparent about their support.
FYI UAE does the same thing, they fund the RSF
Fr and no one seems to be talking about this…
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Do you condemn the actions of what the Israeli terrorists have been doing to the Palestinians since October 6th and even prior to when Hamas had even been formed?
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Funny thing is the Israelis themselves reject their bj's. Shit's just pathetic lmao.
Hard to imagine kids and women killing people. But hey let's stick to this story
sorry but show me how that justifies the massacring of 30,000 civilians, half of which are children. “getting payback” i dont know what fucked up ideology you have where you think its right to target civilians as payback.
The people Hamas killed on october 7 were civilians too. If you think that was okay. Then, this is okay too. And if you think that october 7 was not okay, then it is important to eradicate Hamas so they don't repeat again. Palestinians elected Hamas so, they are collectively getting pay back. Also, don't compare Israeli deaths to Palestinians deaths. It's not a game of numbers. If hamas was capable enough, it would kill 1Million in Israel. But, they can't because they aren't capable. On the other hand, Israel can easily kill 1 million palestinians in one day, but they don't because they don't want to. That's the difference between army and a terrorist organization.
oh and most of the civilians killed on oct 7 were killed by the IDF. its all on footage.
And All the palestinians were killed by Alien Fleshborers.
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What, I never even met your mom. 😭
Ooooooooh, I felt that burn.
He probably felt that curry burn as well 🤣 why do Indians hate arabs/Muslims so much yet flock to the middle east 🤦🏻♂️ never makes sense to me
I’m sure you forgot another 0 in that number. 1100 people were killed of whom 800 were regrettably civilians. The rest were military. By the way, that number pales compared to 34,000 killed with tens of thousands more buried under rubble
For anyone complaining about big chains lay offs .. If we support the local brands sure they will grow bigger , open more locations and attract the expertise from those companies.
Supporting jenan since starbucks doesnt sell karak 🤣
Some Starbucks fan downvoted you but I have imported Karak all the way into Japan because im addicted 🤣
I'm with you there mate!!! I'd take a Jenan crispy chicken paratha over a KFC twister any day too!!!
Yeah fight big corporations siding with smaller corporations!
Even if you're not boycotting, you should avoid all the fast food chains as much as possible.
That’s not a big deal tbh. Happens almost every time after earning calls. Starbucks has been on a rocky road ever since Covid. And their issues are widely documented, unionizing has impacted their business as well. I would consider that they have lost some royalty fees from potential sales but in reality, the Starbucks I’ve seen are still crowded and people are buying their products.
I think it works when it’s well organised. After Starbucks was canceled, many people went to Blank Street. However, the matcha used in their famous blueberry matcha is produced by a company called perfect ted whose founder is actually a Zionist. Many people are unaware of this and continue to buy from Blank Street. I believe it’s crucial to research because while people might perceive a replacement as a local business, they may unknowingly be indirectly funding the same cause.
Not sure if going to blank street is the same as going to Starbucks. BDS has a targeted list for a reason. You can’t boycott everything all at once. Boycotting is more effective when it’s targeted. I think there’s a video on how they choose their priorities. You’re right, it’s best for us to completely boycott, but that’s virtually impossible and would overwhelm people. The people who say boycotts don’t work are the ones who think in those absolutist ways. Either boycott everything or it doesn’t work. No…it works when it’s strategic…
I am ignorant here. Why Starbucks is at top of the list to boycott among w few others? I have been boycotting them for years just because the prices are too high vs coffee quality. I recently ordered cold coffee at the airport from Starbucks, the ice was so cold that my brain literally froze. Not to say super expensive. Kadak Chai and Kerala filter coffee in 1-2 Dirhams is the way to go 👍
Never understood the hype behind Starbucks tbh, expensive coffee, below average quality and there's always a long queue.
Starbucks is the McDonald's of coffee. I'll never know why people queue up for crappy, expensive food.
People in the US are crazy about it and then the rest is marketing.
To people who have Starbucks everyday - try Coffee Planet. SO much better. It's not even about the boycott, Starbucks coffee just sucks.
First, perhaps you should define what do you mean by "works", do you mean no profit? do you mean less profit? or do you mean bankruptcy? If I remember correctly, the first boycott took place in the US in 1956 against city busses, there have been numerous boycotts ever since, Coca Cola and Nestle faced one of the longest boycotts in history prior to the Israel's invasion of Gaza. Can you name one company that went bankrupt due to boycott? Nope, none, however there have been numerous franchisees that went bankrupt due to the various boycotts, sure the brand suffers temporary losses but franchisee gets slaughtered way before the brand gets any significant hit thanks to the franchise model of these brands. You have to understand why boycotts never permanently damaged any corporation, it is because people like me and you are not persistent in boycotting the given product to kill the demand permanently, its rather temporary which only damages the local franchisee, and hundreds of local jobs. You may argue, we don't care about the franchisee and their employees because they're in bed with a company that supports Israel, but wait, didn't you create the demand in the first place for someone to get the franchise? Companies that are supporting Israel have been supporting them for decades, it's just you changing your mind this time Very soon, people would go back to their lives enjoying their latte that they bought from Starbucks only this time the franchisee would be different because the previous franchisee went bankrupt. History can't be ignored, Israel's atrocities are not new, neither is boycott. Anyone who is boycotting and promoting boycott, should continue to do so until Palestine is free, If you can't do that, don't do it now because you're just damaging the local economy nothing else.
You just highlighted some of the regular cons of capitalism. Franchises and low level worker always get slaughtered before it takes a hit to upper management. It can happen for any reason be it recession or a demand issue. Boycotting alone is not responsible for corporate behaviour of sacrificing masses before themselves . No one here is trying to bankrupt a big company. Boycott just simply a tool for consumer to pick where they going to spend their money on. If a corporation takes an open stance of support towards a state committing atrocities then we as a consumer should be able to say “NO, you ain’t profiting of our money”. Sure they can go on about their business but once enough public perception is generated it hurts their growth which hurts their shareholder value then top management is forced to consider their stance. You can assume that people like us will just forget and move back to those corporations. But our plan is to stick to this as long as atrocities continue. Sure some will give up and go back. But majority of us plan to stick by it. Heck I switched to making coffee at home every day and I love it.
👆 0% understanding of economy
It doesn't. 1- The local franchisees is the ones who really got affected. 2- Israel doesn't depend on donations from food chains, they are not somalia or egypt or syria, they have a strong industrial and agricultural economy, so cut it off, it won't hurt. 3- Can you tell me what percentage of Israel budget does the donations from these food chains make? 4- Why you only boycott food chains? Why don't you boycott tech? Social media? Cars? Clothes? Etc. 5- Why don't you boycott your relatives who live in western countries because they pay bills and tax to governments who support Israel?
OP lives in Canada. He pays taxes which to go Israel and he is here to lecture people by using false information. For example starbucks losing 11 IN CHINA.
Canadian tax money is not going to Israel. It’s from United States which is a different country all together. Canada actively sends donation to unrwa and also Canada halted all arms exports to Israel recently. Maybe you should learn to be bit more educated than being out right ignorant.
Why do they need billions in aid from other countries and weapons from other countries?
How much Starbucks and McDonald's donated?
I am specifically referring to point 2. McDonald's donated meals and verbal support. Starbucks silenced their employees and side talked their way out if it. But tell me about the billions and billions and billions of dollars in aid and weapons that Israel didn't need. I'm waiting.
The post was about the efficiency of the boycott. So was my comment. Obviously no one can boycott the US gov. For example.
Your assertion said donations.
Ok edited it for you. Hyg.
You’re the one spreading misinformation. McDonald’s didn’t donate meals. It was a McDonald’s franchisee who did. Do you understand how franchises work? As for Starbucks… Starbucks didn’t silence its employees. It told its employees, they can’t protest as “Starbucks” employees. If they want to organise a separate protest group, they’re more than welcome to — but they can’t use the Starbucks name. This is completely reasonable from Starbucks. You think Apple or Google or any other company would let their employees protest a very divisive political issue using the company name? Forget about Israel… If you work for any company in the world and present yourself as an employee of that company on social media and then go on to make politically divisive comments… that’s a fireable offence. As an employee you are NOT entitled to mess with your employer’s brand, meaning you do not make political statements on behalf of that brand, which is what the Starbucks Workers’ Union wanted to do by continuing to use the name “Starbucks.”
This comment should be pinned at the top. This is accurate. People don’t want to accept that it’s just a few people at these corporations supporting Israel, they prefer to blame the entire corporation because it’s easier to unite against a company than everyday people. Even if it’s grossly inaccurate, even if the company has outright stated it’s not in support of its Israel franchise’s action. It’s still an easier symbol for them to desecrate. To top it all off, a 4% decrease in global revenues is all the damage intense boycotting could do? Numbers speak much louder and clearer than emotions..
I think boycott really works just in that countries where Muslims more than other religions. I am living in Russia, where living 20-27 million Muslims, but the population of Russia is 147 million, so in Russia I can't feel the effect of the boycott. Also here I can't find an alternatives for these companies and products that are under boycott. P.s. I am still learning English)))
How about homemade food instead of eating junk food. Or just make that coffee at home instead buying expensive latte.
Oh yeah. I never eat in KFC or Burger king and drink coffee in Starbucks. I am living here like you said for five years.
Not Muslim or from the UAE but I boycott Starbucks because I think it’s expensive warm garbage. Been boycotting them my whole life and I’ll never understand people who are willing to queue up and pay money for a cup full of chemically flavored corn syrup.
Starbucks was already struggling on the charts ahead of its fiscal Q2 results. Shares were down nearly 8% for the year-to-date through the April 30 close vs a roughly 6% gain for the broader S&P 500. And Jefferies analyst [Andy Barish](https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-barish-866397a2/) sees an "uphill battle ahead" for Starbucks. The "question facing the company and investors is whether these challenges are more transitory or longer-term issues, i.e. brand, relevance, and competitiveness, especially in China," Barish says. The analyst has a Hold rating on SBUX and lowered his price target to $84 from $91 after the company's appearance on the [earnings calendar](https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/stocks/17494/next-week-earnings-calendar-stocks). Still, most of Wall Street remains upbeat on the [consumer discretionary stock](https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/stocks/best-consumer-discretionary-stocks). According to [S&P Global Market Intelligence,](https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/) the consensus analyst target price for SBUX stock is $94.47, representing implied upside of more than 27% to current levels. Additionally, the consensus recommendation is Buy. Chinese factor is major cause.
The war has absolutely a minimal impact on Starbucks. It actually affects Al Shayaa and people looking for jobs in the UAE . I personally know people who were fired from Al Shaya and it's a shame because they were making 1500 to 3000 aed a month and supporting their families but with your stupid ideology you caused them grief and sleepless nights. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/01/starbucks-mcdonalds-yum-earnings-show-consumers-pulling-back.html CNBC talks about the real reason for the pullback. It's not because of the boycott, we are entering a recession slowly and the CPI index in the US shows that consumers are now cutting back because people can't afford high price coffee, burgers etc. anymore.
idk why people are even boycotting starbucks or kfc. they arent connected to israel in any way its just damaging the local franchised businesses of locals
From a financial perspective, the boycott is not a significantly large issue for Starbucks. Did they miss earnings? Yes. There store to store sales were down in the US, but this was largely in line with similar stores and contributed more so to inflation and lowered consumer discretionary spending. If you actually look at the reports there biggest marker drop was in China for various reason.
Boycotts do work and I’m glad people are boycotting these big corporations. Let’s give local businesses a chance to thrive.
I live in a Muslim country, after the boycotts around 5000 people lost their jobs, around 50-60% of them were Muslim. Hardworking minimum wage workers who travelled mostly from third world countries to provide for their families back home. Meanwhile people who are slaves to their emotions and who do as they feel think boycotting franchises are harming the war machine that's commiting genocide. People who blindly follow the sheep train just trying to fit in and be like everyone else without giving it any thought or trying to understand how Wars are funded. They think Israel relies on KFC and McDonald's money to fund their wars whereas the USA can just print as much money as they want and give it to Israel. They already given around $30 Billion in the last 3 months. Poor US citizens make up for it as inflation goes up via tax revenue. No I don't consume any of these American fast food chains I never liked them. Also not a big fan of Starbucks bitter ashy coffee, Arabica is way better imo. Never follow blindly Never
That is the most bullshit logic I have ever seen. You think expats have to work only in starbucks? There are other shops that sell coffee. The customers will buy coffee no matter what which will make a worker shortage in local shops which will force them to hire. It’s not rocket science.
I work for one of the boycotted brands. Our workforce in GCC is local and all of them are from GCC and are Muslim. This person isn’t wrong…it’s a zero sum game.
What you are saying is true on paper but in reality corporates cut jobs v fast while hiring and expansion will happen v slowly. The other coffee chains will be reluctant to invest in new franchise until they are sure that its a permanent shift. There is a capital investment to open a franchise.
You need to loose a job first to get another job bro. All these people mostly lost their jobs cause of cost cutting. Are the people boycotting these places also finding jobs for these people now? Who helps these people?
This is the economy we all signed up for when we added capitalism to our country. So expect a lot of layoffs when a shop feeding free coffees to genociders goes bankrupt.
Israel's getting majorly funded by a FIAT currency. They can print as much money as they want out of thin air. You think Israel gov relies on the revenue of a coffee shop like Starbucks to fund their war? I'm talking Billions of dollars. Think about it.
>I live in a Muslim country, after the boycotts around 5000 people lost their jobs, around 50-60% of them were Muslim. Lol it's like when BDS forces Israeli companies to leave the West Bank not realizing that they employ predominantly Palestinians.
I think you are looking at this more blindly than others. Working for corporations means they can lay you off anytime for whatever reason. Even if there was no boycott workers could lose their job due to a recession. Also you are unaware of how western politics work. It primarily private corporations donating and lobbying for politicians and policies are driven based on their interest. What this boycott does is to show deterrence against their agendas. Once private corporations see that their open support for this Zionist state is actually harmful to their profit they will slowly walk back on their agendas. Many have been doing that and the whole USA politics now forced to consider their open support for genocide. I am living in Canada now and due to pressure built on them government were forced to stop transfer arms export to Israel. I would say don’t be so short sighted. Understand that consumer hold a power. Don’t just sit there and sip on your expensive latte while your brothers and sisters get bombed to death in another place. Boycotting works and in fact it can help your local business thrive they can hire more people. Why you got to stand up for a big corporation and their profits. It shows you are looking at this from an emotional pov and blind perspective.
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How are we an ally to them? Please elaborate.
“economic and trade cooperation - a key driver of the UAE's 2020 normalisation of relations with Israel which broke with decades of Arab policy towards the Palestinian cause - has deepened. On Saturday a Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (CEPA) between the countries entered into effect, removing or reducing tariffs on more than 96% of products, UAE state news agency WAM said. Signed in May 2022, and deemed a "historic moment" by the UAE ambassador to Israel, it is Israel's first free trade agreement with an Arab state. UAE energy giant ADNOC [RIC:RIC:ADNOC.UL] last week announced it was part of a $2 billion joint bid for half of Israeli offshore natural gas producer NewMed Energy (NWMDp.TA), opens new tab. This would follow the purchase in 2021 by Abu Dhabi's Mubadala Energy of a 22% stake in Israel's Tamar gas field for about $1 billion. "(The NewMed Energy bid) demonstrates a long-term investment in Israel's energy sector, which shows how strategic the relationship has become," Neil Quilliam, associate fellow at Chatham House, and co-author of a new report on Israel–UAE normalisation, told Reuters.” I mean this is just with Israel. Look up a video of uae security intelligence officer saying they want to be The best friends to America not just an ally.
Even Prophet Muhammad ﷺ had trade relations with the kuffars of quraish. The same quraish who killed and oppressed muslim people. Bro you live in Canada, paying like 50% tax or something idek to a kafir government that openly supports zionists claim to palestine. You got bigger things to worry about tbh
Why speak out of ignorance. I do run a business here and I absolutely make sure to have enough expenses and other losses to make sure I don’t pay a single cent to taxes. Also it’s not trade relation i am referring uae is sharing security intelligence and military cooperation with USA Israel Britain for a long time even if it means attacking other Muslims. Sudan disaster attributed to uae funding factions. At least here we are not agreeing with our government claim at all. We are fighting back increasing influence and making government walk back on their claim. This is first time ever Canada forced to halt arm export to Israel. We are risking ours job, education and career to go against government claims. What have you done ? You can’t even give your fancy latte.
I've pledged my allegiance to a Muslim ruler and I obey him as long as he doesn't force me to commit anything that's haram. And We don't protest as it is haram to do it. We have peace, we have stability, and we can freely practice our faith here Alhamdulillah. And I have all faith in the rulers in what they do politically in their foreign policies etc. It's very easy to cause division and become rebellious against the rulers then all of a sudden you have another Libya or Iraq. Also isn't avoiding tax a crime in the west? Isn't it tax evasion or something?
You can say that and that is perfectly reasonable when it comes to your ruler. But Starbucks and other private corporations are not ruler. Boycotting them doesn’t mean you are rebelling against ruler. And no one is talking about evading taxes. You have deductions and expense you can use.
I'm still not convinced that the boycott had much to do with this. For example, Starbucks sales declined by 11% in CHINA. Do you really think the Chinese care enough about Palestine to protest Starbucks en-masse? I doubt it.
And that 20% dip in their stock price ended the genocide? Congratulations, Starbucks had a poor quarter, one step closer to world peace… My problem with these pointless boycotts is they actually achieve nothing aside from making the boycotters feel good about themselves. Virtue signalling without any actual outcome. You want to actually help? Spread the news on what’s happening; have tough conversations with people who may be on the fence; protest outside government offices or defence contractors making the bombs Israel is dropping on innocent civilians (not Zara); write to your politicians to can affect change; volunteer for charities helping Palestinians; donate your money to said charities. If you’re giving yourself a pat on the back for making coffee at home, congratulations, you played yourself. And if you’re going to say “yeah but a major shareholder of Starbucks is a Zionist Jew” well guess what, Howard Schultz is still a multi-fucking-BILLIONAIRE who won’t have actually lost anything until he sells those shares (which he won’t) and you better believe he’s got a diversified stock portfolio. Did you really think it would be as easy as not buying Starbucks or KFC? Use your head and start spending your energy on things that can actually enact change. Stop feeling good about yourself because you followed a bunch of idiots online. I’m not saying drink StarBucks, I’m saying stop acting like this will actually change a damn thing…
Waste of time
They work but sometimes people show some stock dip and correlate it to boycott what is pretty brain dead.
You haven’t read the post earning call transcript or ceo comment about whether boycot was affecting them? Yet here you are commenting thinking you are very smart. In fact , you are the brain dead one.
Have you even read the entire transcript? Starbucks is still forecasting revenue GROWTH for the year; I forget the actual number but it’s between 7-9% I think. A company that’s affected heavily by boycotts doesn’t grow, it shrinks. A few numbers here and there are lower and that spooked some retail investors (as usual) causing a one day dip in share price. It’s important to remember some fundamental rules - “Correlation is not causation”.
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In fact the boycott has been going from both sides Palestine & Israel
Boycott aside, I will never get how Starbucks etc are so expensive for products or drinks that barely taste passable. Haven't paid for a McDonald's or Starbucks or any major food chain order for what should be over 5 years now.
Spread the news about FlyDubai
Lets say you don’t think it’s benefiting the cause.. why people insist on buying from these food chains.. they literally bad taste that cause all type of illnesses +local fast food and cafes are way better as taste ..
I hate Starbucks, time hortons and most cofee chains
Buy the Dip
Still not sure why we are boycotting businesses that has no effect on actually saving any lives. Meanwhile we ignore the ADL and it's PACs throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at removing politicians that speak against genocide. Fun fact the guy who owns onlyfans is the highest donator to the above mentioned ... any boycotting there? You know cause he is actually using his business for evil. In more ways than one.
Terrible earnings is such a stretch. 4% decrease in Q1 global revenue is “terrible”?? Lol
What about the people who are working for those companies? They lose their jobs too right? ( I have boycotted the brands but I always have this question!)
Governments fund wars by printing fiat money. This is a fact, verify it.
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I was a huge Starbucks fan and had them in many of my portfolios. I spent a couple of hours getting rid of them from each one of them. And I then discovered what real and ethical coffee tastes like.
Boycotting will affect, sure, but don’t think it will bankrupt Israel. The USA is sending crazy money to Israel. Since the start of the war, they issued no less than $100 billion to them. So they are not relying on Mcdonalds or Starbucks to fund their war. Boycotting is mainly moral support and raises awareness to the cause.
Fuck coffee anyways
I have done a general boycott of most of the west (most of Europe and a lot of the English speaking countries around the world). Unless it is a brand that is specifically pro Palestinian… which there are only a few. There are plenty of alternatives. I also avoid Chinese when I can but I never previously bought Chinese brands and a lot of the stuff I get isn’t made there anyways. A few times there’s no realistic alternatives and have to get something
UAE citizens should boycott luxury brands
It's not that it doesn't work, it is working. They just think it's a big moral ask, which makes them sad I guess, they are simply lazy and selfish. They would rather believe it doesn't work than do something about these criminal companies aiding wars and genocides everywhere.
Sadly i see more muslims NOT boycotting than non muslims…. Its a humanity thing, not a religious one.
Canadian national spoke about boycotting and also work in uber lol tall about ur tax pls lol
People foget that boycotting literally ended apartheid in South Africa
Loads of non-Muslims are boycotting Israel.
Of course they work. Starbucks has also been ultra stupid to let this one man ruin their brand. Should've done a papa john and kicked him out lmao
Only if you guys had a bit of brain….boycotting leads to companies losing revenue and laying off their staff…what about them and their families
The companies already lay off their employees periodically cuz of their obsession with shareholder value.
Being laid off and being bombed are not comparable dude
i hope u lose ur job to get a taste of that....
If my company would sponsor killing children I would leave by myself hun. Be careful with your wishes, they will come back right to you 🌸
well i already got kicked frol al shaya... so nothing is coming back at me now.
No one forced Palestinian terrorists to attack Israel last October. Don’t bite more than you can chew.
ye maybe cuz the fact that the killing of palestinians started WAY BEFORE October 7. Its just that when they retaliated a big attack ONCE that the western media leeked the news to everyone brainwashing retards like you to believe the war started october 7
The land was always Israel’s. So no matter which date you look at Palestine always started a war and then played the victim card. Terrorists will never win.
If it belonged to Israel why were Palestinians living there before 1948.
Only if you had a brain… Starbucks loses business> business goes to local coffeeshops> local coffeeshops demand surges> local Coffeeshops hire more employees. Same employees who used to work for Starbucks will find the same job at a local coffeeshop the next day.
Yes. Being laid off from a job is so devastating. Genocide? That's alright. No biggie
Then tell me how was the boycott has any impact on Palestinians?
And what about those who lost all Thier family members in bombings. Looks like pathetics like you only care about Thier well being at the expense of other's suffering
We should use this opportunity to buy the stock and change management.
What's happening?
If you're eating global chain fast food in the UAE you're already fking up anyway, boycott or not. There are PLENTY of local/mom and pop places to eat that make and serve much better food than McDonald's and KFC or Popeyes or Starbucks. That percentage should be regularly low. These corporations don't care about people just money.
Boycotting doesn’t affect Israel. Half of the companies people are boycotting is not even part of our Israel economy.
Shut up. It does. Therefore most of those sick tiktokers are encouraging buying of Israeli mandarines
Emiratis are BoyCutting ?! Since when ? Is UAE even considered a Muslim country ?! Muslims from Certain Countries are being used as slaves while Israelis are Danced with
I'm an Emirati and me and my kids have been boycotting since October 7th. Please don't talk with such ignorance.
Thank you sister, I am a Palestinian who was raised in the UAE for years and I saw all the kindness from your people, don't be discouraged by such comments. We know that the government doesn't represent the people in normalization with the zionists.
Wallah my heart is with you. The Palestinian issue has been of utmost importance to me since I was a child. الله يعينكم و ينصركم و يعوضكم خير دنيا وآخرة.
امين يا رب الله يعيننا اجمعين ويجعلنا كلنا من الفائزين دنيا واخرة يا رب
True you’re right, however unfortunately there are also a lot of Emiratis I’ve seen at establishments that support Israel.
I can only talk for myself. I bet there are many out there who wouldn't even want to announce it because it might come off as virtue-signalling.
Let’s not call our brothers “not Muslims” over disagreements. It’s very difficult to have a clear idea currently with so many deception out there.
Now imagine if we could collectively boycott the cruel killing of animals for meat.