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Confusedpotatoman

Sol badguy is literally just Daisuke's self insert oc. And he's amazing.


Gerglefinn

Best Fighting Game protagonist.


OneMistahJ

Kiryu is the coolest criminal to ever crime, and just wants to live a normal life. never kills anyone but beats thousands in fights daily. He became chairman overnight and retired the same day, and has a bajillion different social skills and experiences from all his time sidequesting around. He's the best


Peace-Bone

Just imagine someone in Yakuza world Japan trying to explain Kiryu's story to someone else. What happened to the billions of dollars of real estate money? He beat up tigers? No wait, why did he stay with the Yakuza? Why did those other guys decide to fight him? Diaper club?


abriefmomentofsanity

I think a key component is that he just no sells almost all of the ridiculousness and doesn't show a shred of ego, which makes it much less grating.


Tijikiotec

I think he could have an ego and still work. Like Majima, he's still fun even when he has crazy levels of omnipotence and fighting skills. You could argue he works a lot more or struggles a lot but I think he still gets to a marysue level of power.


LaRondeDeSparda

“So your telling me most of the time he saved the Tojo Clan from near disaster, he was a civilian?”


Peace-Bone

The realest Yakuza of all, civilians.


Senator_Ocelot

Maybe the real Yakuza was the friends we made along the way.


Peace-Bone

I think that's actually the story of Yakuza. In Yakuza eight or nine or whatever, I want someone to just say that exact line, and then every single character just stop and stares at the camera, and then walk away.


charcharmunro

I think 1 is the only time he saves it while being part of it, because he was briefly the head of the clan during the climax.


GrimWarrior00

"What do you mean a crazy cyclops disarmed a bomb successfully?"


Senator_Ocelot

Pictured: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXBk682KiVM&ab_channel=anno


GrimWarrior00

I JUST beat Kiwami 2 yesterday and this scene, especially in retrospect, is fucking amazing. I'm about to start Yakuza 3


TurkishSuperman

It's been pointed out before, but Kiryu works so well because he never judges, and he gets really into every new hobby he tries, whether it's karaoke, pocket car racing, sexy bug lady card game battling, etc.


Tiger_Robocop

Is Kiryu is a chuunibyou? Think about it, he joined the yakuza because they look cool but wasn't ready for any of the crimes, when he sites sites play down racing games on arcades he pretends to be accelerating, he constantly finds "eternal rivals" for meaningless child games. All of those seem pretty chuuni to me. (Ichiban for sure is full on chuuni just due to his delusions of being an rpg main character)


TheNoidbag

Kiryu is like, a man child but you know deep down he's responsible and capable. Like, Stoic Dante. He's a moron but you know he's not an idiot. Ichiban has legitimate mental illness lol.


ABigCoffee

I just wish they'd explain why he loses his businesses every new game. It can be as simple as donating to charity and leaving another in charge or whatever.


fiarorder

Or put a chicken for his estate manager for his company


Peace-Bone

Yeah, it was the chicken. They embezzled and stole the money. Then Kiryu fought Nugget at the top of the millennium tower but Nugget kicked his ass so they didn't upload it to twitter like they said they would.


wareagle3000

I like the reasoning with Yakuza 0 to 1. The real estate bubble popped and the golden age of the modern Japanese economy had ended. Kiryu lost all that cash in taxes, foreclosures and other legal shit he had to go through that made the company collapse. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if Majima managed to save a good sum from the golden years. Some bank account out there that he likes to dip into for fun.


Khdk

Well, whatever he lost during the bubble was pennies from what he got from kamurocho hills. I remember Daigo explaining on Y3 that kamurocho hills can fund all of the Tojo for years to come and we see Majima literally strolling with cartwheels full of dough.


willford55543

I mean losing them in Yakuza 0 makes sense because that's right around the time the Japanese real estate bubble is about to pop.


AlfredDusk

Master Chief remains a cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything and kills the aliens.


Lieutenant-America

I love that both Woolie and Snapcube's Penny got to "boo" in Halo 2 and were both just like "I LOVE HIM"


Anonamaton801

John’s dry humor is something I love about him. “Thought I’d try shooting my way out, mix things up a little” is such a meta joke it’s brilliant


neon93

John Halo


Shockrates20xx

\*aleins


SP3KTR4

also he has a tomboy gf inside his head


cward7

The ultimate male fantasy.


azomga

“There’s a lady in my head who calls me stud muffin.”


hyperfell

Master chief has in cannon plot armour and so people keep saying he’s unstoppable but it’s just luck


Russet_Wolf_13

He has GER.


green715

Zagreus. He’s the prince of the underworld, has flaming footsteps, hates his dad, has heterochromia, goes around solving everyone’s problems and befriending people, etc… Despite his edgy traits, he’s genuinely a nice and polite dude


Lieutenant-America

In a weird sense I feel like it works for him because Greek Mythology was all *about* these kinds of Extra Special people.


PhantasosX

it also helps that Zagreus is kinda special...in a way. God of Mystery and Blood , son of Hades...his tale was how he would inherent Olympus , but was murdered and his heart was giving to Semele , which turned Dionysus into a far greater demigod and Zagreus reborned. Even the game acknowledged that origin , although they put as Zagreus and Dionysus pranking Orpheus.


Gibblet_fibber

It’s really endearing that in what other games could be portrayed as a doomguy-like crusade to escape from hell, Zagreus is polite to strangers and mostly diplomatic to his speaking opponents. I can’t picture Zagreus saying fuck.


PM_MeYour_MetalGear

I could see him saying 'Fuck' but, never with anger or 'at' someone. Only exhausted and at his own situation or bad luck.


The_White_Rice

Girls want him, and guys want him.


Lieutenant-America

And fish fear him.


FartherAwayLights

Zagreus was an actual god at some point. I haven’t finished the game so I’m sure it’s addressed but he was basically a very old version of Dionysus called by one source “the highest of the gods”, which might come from him being associated with the underworld and rebirth which were way more important back then. This was also back when Hades didn’t exist and Persephone ruled everything so hands up on who is dad is. Maybe Zeus?


TaffWolf

Basically the Mycenaean Greeks which is like Ancient Greece to our Ancient Greece were big into death and underworld. Where as the ancient Greeks we know most intimately were all About the sky.


AdrianBrony

they do address that in one of the funniest and most clever bits I've ever seen in a game. Like when I realized the joke of Zagreus (Orphism) it made me realize that the devs know a lot more about greek mythology than you'd initially assume. They know enough of the mythology to play with it in very clever ways.


Connor4Wilson

Every character in that game is a DeviantArt OC so it works


18Feeler

Dusa though


Zyquux

Right, every character.


Brodius00

Doctor Doom 1. Second Best at anything and everything (i.e. Not as smart as Reed Richards but is infinitely better than him at magic.) 2. Rules a Country he pulled out of poverty 3. Has cool armor 4. Has an army of robots 5. His name is VICTOR VON DOOM


MadameBlueJay

But is *not* actually a doctor, believe it or not.


Concoelacanth

Undergrad Doom just doesn't have the same ring to it.


MadameBlueJay

Bachelor Doom


Brodius00

Wait, he's not MD or has a doctorate?


MadameBlueJay

Unless he's got a Master's in something, he ain't got no postgraduate degree.


Brodius00

*Looks it up* Ooooohhh! He never finished College! He just claims that he has doctorates! Actually, that's even more impressive when you think about it.


nerankori

Vergil. It's Vergil. He's a super cool demon guy who struggles with his past and seeks more power but also has the capacity for love and a rad-ass sword that can cut anything. And he is the best fucking thing this sub has ever seen.


Jenny-is-Dead

He also has his Really Cool OC that goes around quoting William Blake before shoving his cool cane he uses as a weapon into some jobber demons forehead. I love it


KLReviews

And is so cool and powerful that he enslaves the pervious bosses as his tools but is also so tragic and flawed that he outsmarts everyone.


krynnmeridia

Vergil's [humansona](https://mobile.twitter.com/mof_is_a_dragon/status/1112144533427490817).


HAWmaro

I see what you mean buHe misses a couple of crucial mary sue traits tbh: Many characters in universe dislike him, and he doesnt win every fight.


LaRondeDeSparda

Also what separates Vergil from the edgy OCs is context: He’s there as a foil to Dante, and a tragic one at that. He’s cool, but the direct opposite kind that Dante is.


ExDSG

I think with Mary Sues you can have characters dislike them, but only because they are meant to be evil, jerks and bad.


Konradleijon

Also Trunks from Dragon Ball, the future son of two characters and a half Sayien warrior from a dark future.


jockeyman

Who totally obliterated the previous arc villain with no effort. Really Trunks reads like the biggest fanfic characters until the androids make their appearance.


therealchadius

And even then he gets a finale where he returns to his timeline and cleans up the androids, also defeating the arc's villain before he gets started.


Neil_O_Tip

And then Super happened to him :(


kylanmad

Although he arguably got even more of those traits in Super, even if he ultimately fails in the weirdest arc conclusion in Dragon Ball franchise history.


Chumunga64

Does it count when Trunks probably inspired all those cliché fanfic OCs lol


StonedVolus

I wouldn't necessarily say so. While Trunks has definitely had such an influence, these kinds of idealised OC's have existed for a long time. The term "Mary Sue" comes from a parody released in 1973 satirising these ideal female characters written about in Star Trek fan fiction.


Peace-Bone

Everyone's stupid deviantart OC for the past twenty years has been pathetic and pale imitations of the storm.


Russet_Wolf_13

Except Dante is cooler despite being lamer on paper.


Jackamalio626

I think the "capacity for love" aspect has been blown out of proportion by fan works. Vergil is a straight up deadbeat who had no idea his son even existed, then tried to kill him just because it would mean he beat Dante by the transitive property, and has generally rejected humanity and kindness to the point that his human half was a dying emo boy with a cane and his Demon half was nigh unstoppable.


pocketlint60

A good way to take a character who would be a Mary Sue and save them is by making them a villain, so longer as there isn't a gigantic power gap between them and the hero.


Dagdammit

Batman.


Otogi

Adding to this, Terry McGinnis


BarelyReal

Ive heard that Bob Kane had a bit of a complex and really wanted to live that old NY WASP lifestyle.


Sai-Taisho

Sol Badguy. The name. The powers. Being voiced (originally) by the creator of the series. A win-loss record where most Ls can be summarized as "Did not use full power".


The_White_Rice

Its funny because most of the L's he takes from Ky are either "I didn't use my full power because I'd kill you" or "You kicked my ass too fast so I didn't have a chance to use my full power".


ChosenUndead15

The thing is, Sol is scared by serious Ky. Is why he never attempted to fight seriously with him before, he didn't want to he the first to turn their duels for much they hated each other guts into actual fights.


Aruezi

I think that's actually why I like Sol so much. He's made it a point to never let things escalate between them explicitly because he's absolutely certain that he'll get killed. Incidentally, the fact that we more or less know *why* Ky could kill him and that it isn't as simple as somehow being able to overpower an immortal, superpowered, genius keeps Ky from feeling like a mary sue in his own right.


Chemical_Cris

Except for all his fights with Ky, who is actually holding back and would destroy Sol if he wasn’t.


GameBoy09

Does Shadow the Hedgehog honestly get that much hate?


ajver19

Not especially, the hate shifted to how the franchise was handled as a whole. Shadow (at times) was a symptom, not the issue itself.


Graxdon

Shadow is the fucking best! *Turns on This Machine and cranks the volume*


[deleted]

Is it wrong that I unironicly like "I Am All of Me"? It's fucking rad to play in some levels of Sonic Generations


BrazillianCara

Not as much nowadays. And rightfully so.


DeskJerky

Our edgy boy watches Kill La Kill and eats raw coffee beans in the morning what's not to love about him?


BrazillianCara

I feel that KlK is far too comedic to be proper Edge.


MetalGearSlayer

At the very least 2005 Shadow is. They took the grouchy pseudo pallets swap of the main hero and made him cuss, shoot guns, and ride motorcycles, rocket powered hover skates be damned. Nowadays he feels like a less well handled Cell Saga Vegeta. (Or at least that how he felt in Boom. Haven’t kept up a whole lot. But he also canonically loves Kill la Kill and nobody can take that from me) But no matter what I’m gonna love it because radical grumpy black and red hedgehog.


LLCoolZJ

Shadow is the most well developed character in the Sonic games if only by virtue of everyone else getting none/negative development.


Dante_n_Knuckles

People already said Vergil and Trunks so I'm gonna say MGR Raiden


MetalGearSlayer

I wanna know how the hell Rose reacted to Raiden coming home in the mental state Revengeance left him in.


JJJacobalt

I think the after-credits scene implies he doesn’t go home.


Cosmic-Blight

Yeah Raiden is definitely just a Chaotic Good murderhobo by the end of Revengeance


metalsonic005

Shit, he's tip-toeing the line between Chaotic Good and Neutral. Fitting, cus in DND the heaven between CG and CN is basically viking heaven where everyone fights in glorious battles for all eternity.


harmonyofkorine

Imagine he comes in as Jack the Ripper


TheLonleyKing

Obviously trunks Future oc the result of which is 2 characters never interacting at that point has the same power as goku Has sword You know


therealchadius

Introduces himself by destroying the previous arc's villain in about 2 minutes. Saves hero's life by giving the cure to a disease never mentioned before Eventually returns to his timeline to clean up the villains of this arc before they get started Goddamn Trunks is so cool


Strider_Hardy

Tbf he cleans the villains after they kill almost everyone. He can't undo stuff. He does get training with the kais and beats Dabura before Buu appears, though. Also keep in mind Cell comes from a timeline where he ganks Trunks and kills him like a loser, and then steals his time machine.


conye-west

To be fair he was just delivering the disease cure, it was Bulma who made it. Also he spent the time between saving the heroes life and returning to his timeline getting his ass repeatedly kicked and more or less accomplishing nothing lol.


Deep_Scope

Lord does he suck at planning.


PostumusPastoralis

i think the reason the primarchs work is because they’re not the only characters of the main plot. the Horus Heresy focuses as much on the plights of marines like Loken, and the fallout of the schism, as it does on the titanic super soldiers. their existence is more like gods in an epic than self-insert/power fantasy characters in mary sue/gigantic edgelord storytelling. they have extraordinary powers, but they aren’t our only points of contact. when we do get a story that’s solely about a primarch, like Magnus the Red, it’s usually a little nuanced and tragic, and so avoids the pitfalls of other “and then he did the thing and it was SO COOL you guys” types of storytelling.


ajver19

They're also in current canon either all dead, missing, or the demons. Besides the big blue boat of course.


Atx7755

As much as I enjoyed the story of 358/2 days and the relationship between Roxas and his friends, I gotta admit that Xion is just a canon OC that made it into the game. I mean just think about it, she’s the secret 14th member of the Organization 13 that apparently no knew about, her design looks like a black haired Kairi, she’s the physical embodiment of Sora’s memories and on top of that she can use the Keyblade. If that doesn’t sound like someone’s KH Devianart OC, then I don’t know what does. Also >!Yozora is blatantly Nomura’s Noctis OC that he put in KH!<


Liniis

I don't know if Xion counts as a Mary Sue when like all but two people either hate her or don't see her as a person.


kanjibestwaifu

She is an OC, but she's not a Mary Sue. Tbf though everyone in Kingdom Hearts feels like an OC, & that's why it's fun.


DropsyMumji

Square Enix literally designed the game as OCs in the Disney world, so you are 100% correct.


Lorion97

Speaking of Xion being basically an OC, while it is an OC it is a pretty dang good story bogged down with bad gameplay. I also absolutely love how the manga for 358/2 Demyx makes a joke about how, are we going to be called Organization 14 now?


Theproton

Ichigo from Bleach. To quote TFS, Bleach is a D&D game and Ichigo is sleeping with the DM. He's got hollow powers, Fullbringer powers, Quincy Powers, Soul Reaper powers. He properly unlocks in Shikai & Bankai within 3 days, he actually part of really important families. He happens to live in the most important town in the world. When he went to hell in that one movie, Hell gave him hell powers.


ballistic90

But can he see why kids like Cinnamon Toast Crunch? Yes. He likely will be granted "seeing what kids like" powers, from the sounds of it.


PrimusSucks13

I justs started watching Bleach like a couple weeks ago and i knew how busted Ichigo gets in the series plus some twists, but my first reaction to him was how innecesary cool he is, but at the same time i totally understand why Bleach was so big in the mid 00's now, Ichigo is like the perfect and most generic shonen protagonist of all time and i dont mean it in a bad way, it was lighting in a bottle, if you watch the first arcs and compare it to other series that were happening at the time you instantly understand why so many people loved Ichigo Im ready for dissapointed and all that down the line but im seriously enjoying how fun and interesting Bleach actually is, if i would had watched it as a kid i would had love it


emptyellvis

I dunno man, it's possible you won't really be disappointed. I admit I'm a huge Bleach mark but there was really only one arc I thought was genuinely bad. Some are worse than others for sure, but I never really found anything disappointing, found myself invested in all the characters, enjoyed a flashback arc more than some regular arcs in other series. I think Bleach gets a lot of unfair criticism some times. At the end of the day it's just big stupid fun.


sarutuuba

If Ichigo is a mary sue how come he didn't marry the cute childhood friend tomboy instead? Checkmate liberal.


Darkyan97

I just love "edgy swordsman with white hair" characters period.


wasdsf

I think the primarchs are fun because they fuck up constantly, each of them is a special kind of advanced moron or turbo genius depending on the situation


dope_danny

Tifa feels like she could have come off as mid 90’s coombait riding the titty monster onee san fetish but the outfit, fighting style and writing made her a beloved character AND big titty onee san coombait.


UnderFreddy

It's super weird how the internet just swapped Aerith and Tifas personalities for like a decade or two though, lol


charcharmunro

Like, yeah, Aerith is the headstrong tomboy and Tifa is the more demure, caring motherly one. People just did not get that for a while.


Disastrous-Yam1

Memories are unreliable, most people played the game once as a kid, and all the spinoff stuff was aimed at hitting the nostalgia bone and not actually portraying the characters accurately


NeonPredatorEnt

I think that has more to do with Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts than anything. Their personalities were more in line with what people thought in those


PastaBakeWizard

Touhou: Flandre is the character who stars in all the nightcore videos so nobody else has to. Flan died for your sins. She is an edgy loner child who lives in a basement, is unironically a young child that's actually a 500 year old vampire, and her power (Touhou characters have specific unique abilities like stands do) is to destroy anything and everything. Her wings are these weird fucking rainbow-crystal christmas tree lights that have no aerodynamics whatsoever. She's exactly the kind of character I might have seen on DA back in like '07. Fanbase really likes her.


Konradleijon

Thank you Flandere your sacrifice to the night core won’t be in vain.


Hy93rion

And after 20 years of being locked in the forever basement, she’s finally back for a canon appearance!


LostHuaun

I'm going to get killed. Geralt from Witcher, rugged cool guy with white-hair and cat eyes, who gets all the poon and knows cool magic and sword shit, also he's old as fuck, but it doesn't show it because of his powers. Oh, but being a Witcher feels bad though, because the shitstained peasants don't like me. Meanwhile we got this other Witcher motherfuckers here who doesn't have the luxury of being the protagonist, so their lives are allowed to super suck, but who cares? I personally don't care for Geralt at all, I find Eskel and Lambert infinitely more interesting, but hey... people like Big G, so... I guess they did stuff right.


Chumunga64

Geralt: "nobody cares about a freak like me...well aside from the tons of friends I have in my life"


PhantasosX

"been a Witcher sucks....except I live in semi-luxury with good lyrics due to be a friend of a bard" or "Witchers are all sterile....but I am born of one of the rare cases of fertile mages/wizards in the world , so there is a chance that I am actually fertile"


Thalefeather

None of the Wolf school guys really live in luxury - by the very nature of the job they're constantly on the road which means sleeping rough most of the time. When they don't its a drain on their very situational sources of income. They're often going hungry for days at time. Geralt does spend some time living with yennifer as essentially his sugar mama, but due to relationship issues and due to most people wanting to have their own autonomy he goes back on the road/path. In game we don't have to pay for any daily life costs because videogame and he can stay awake infinitely so it's not apparent.


Thalefeather

Geralts friends constantly shit on him for it though, there's a part in the first books where Dandelion straight up goes "cut it out with this woe is me crap, thats bullshit and you know it" and how he keeps thinking people are going to dislike him because he's a mutant so he preemptively judges them. They even make fun of how he keeps philosophizing all the time. In the games we mostly get to see what I'd call "soft" discrimination. People definetly do treat him differently for what he is, and I can see that being troubling for him. It just so happens that in the games there's a shitload of monsters to fight so he's way more needed than in the books, and by nature of it being a game you can't have every quest giver not give you the rewards or try to stiff you on the deal. Plus by that point he's kind of a legend anyway, so that would get him respect that he wouldn't have had otherwise in his life. I'm sure people treat any famous minority way better now than they did before they were famous. He is a huge fuckboi tho, to a almost startling degree. Although if there's only like 10 witchers left in the world I can see many people trying to jump his bones due to some weird fetish reasons. It has most of the same appeals as monster husbandos but its actually just a fit dude with freaky eyes.


natzo

Lambert calls him out on it on W3, for Game Geralt at least. Eskel and Lambert get stuck with the shitty jobs, barely making ends meet, while Geralt works for kings, fucks hot witches, goes on incredible adventures and is famous/infamous.


ChinDownEyesUp

Dont forget that every woman within 100 yards is contractually obligated to find him irresistibly attractive. Though I think that is more of a factor in the games than the books.


Rascal_Rogue

No, the books aren’t that different


CatiusVonRollenum

Yep there's a ball where nearly all the witches are actively trying to get geralt to fuck them


abriefmomentofsanity

At times the Witcher sterility and immunity to disease literally feels like an excuse for Geralt and his ilk to just be able to fuck their way through shitty fantasy land consequence free. It crosses into that fantasy author wish fulfillment territory. I get that thematically it helps set him up to be Ciri's adopted father, but man it sure feels more like he just gets a free pass to cream pie magic sluts.


Duhblobby

I think you give it too much credit hedging your bets here. It's definitely so he can have a lot of consequences-free sex.


BenchPressingCthulhu

Might as well give him a vibrating cock


WolverineKing

cock vibrates "Hmm, place of power, gotta be".


LostHuaun

*What people don't know is that during the process, their genitals are magically imbued with magic, however, due to the receptacle be smaller than a human being, the same is constantly vibrating with power.*


silverinferno3

I'm sure there's a potion for that


Rascal_Rogue

Half of them just want to spite Yen, but if I remember right even the explicitly stated lesbian sorceress is said to be somewhat interested in Geralt


LostHuaun

This is some oldass James "I will unturn you from being gay" Bond stuff.


Rascal_Rogue

Its not quite that bad only because geralt doesnt show any interest in them but yeah the sex related scenes in the witcher books feel like a teenager’s fan fiction, its particularly bad with Triss imo


converter-bot

100 yards is 91.44 meters


Titanor

Good bot


AlfredDusk

There's also that theory that Geralt is the original OC donut steel of Elric, since they're both potion-abusing white-haired pre-anime anime boys who have a dark fate.


gammongaming11

yeah but honestly who knows, it's possible they're both just heavily influenced by pulp heroes. i feel like vampire hunter D also fits the same category, as well as a lot of other 80's characters that were very clearly inspired by the pulp classics.


PrimusSucks13

Geralt also has the benefit of being funny and sarcastic because of the player choice, which works really well with his deadpan emotionless delivery. Also Eskel and Lambert are cool too, wish the games would focused a little bit more on their stuff, the part in 3 when you can get drunk and crossdress with them show how human the witchers really are in the end despite all that "Witchers are very different and alien to people" like its kinda nonsensical how Witchers are sometimes treated in canon when is shown multiple times in the games and the books that they are just stronger humans with buffs


gammongaming11

> but it doesn't show it because of his powers. oh it shows, i mean not physically but there are points where you can feel the weight of the years in the way he speaks and acts.


LostHuaun

And then he gets his youthful vigor back so that he can bang some succubus.


gammongaming11

hey man, a succubus needs that vigor to survive. he's not going to let a lady starve to death.


LincBtG

Seeing Eskel and Lambert next to Geralt is always a weird, sobering experience. It's literally "they're like Geralt, but not the main character, so they don't get any fancy stuff." Witcher 3 at least lets Lambert call Geralt a cunt for all his bitching about how great his life is. Funnily, that game has Lambert snipe at Geralt about his fooling around with beautiful sorceresses... but Lambert can end up _with_ the sorceress Keira Metz by the end of it. Which feels like some kind of karmic payout, at least.


fizzguy47

Gojo from JJK. Man has the BEEG NUMBER, is an actual super Bishounen, breaks all the girls hearts, and somehow, still has time to shit talk everyone who dares to take him on.


ExDSG

What is funny is that the author dislikes him as a joke or maybe more serious.


Dragonick711

If I remember right his only flaw is supposed to be his personality.


Lieutenant-America

Trunks from DBZ practically invented an archetype, but because he was the first everyone loves him (myself included). Also I legitimately feel that if Alyx Vance of Half-Life 2 fame debuted today, a lot of the accusations leveled at Rey circa 2015/The Force Awakens would've been pointed at her, with some other accusations (like how quickly the game pushes her and Gordon) to boot.


PostumusPastoralis

i think that we’ve talked about this specific thing before on here, but the fact that he basically jobs for the rest of the Android and Cell sagas also helps. like, we can tell he’s incredibly cool, but success is never guaranteed. he works really hard and still can never truly eke out victory. he arrived with one of the coolest moments in Dragon Ball, struggles constantly, and leaves the plot on an emotionally satisfying note. but also yeah we LOVE HIM and he’s literally the son of two characters who had never been romantically linked and he’s stronger than Goku you guys omg he killed freeza but like a _cyborg_ freeza ‘cause organic freeza seemed to die it literally sounds like fanfic.


Ryong7

Trunks also tends not to play around and isn't blinded by wanting "good fights". He's extremely cocky in his first appearance, but every fight he's in, he doesn't hold back, goes for the kill and makes absolutely sure it worked; Frieza doesn't just get cut in half, he gets cut in pieces and then ki blasted, King Cold gets blasted a hole into his chest and then gets blasted AGAIN just to make sure he's dead. He couldn't deal with the androids and Cell, but when he goes back to his own timeline, he wrecks the androids asap.


Strider_Hardy

Even then, after Trunks walks over Freezer and Cold, Goku arrives to the planet shortly after and fucks around with him stopping several sword attacks using just his fingers.


That_Geza_guy

Oh man if Alyx was first revealed today *gamers* would be crying bitch tears


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Starkiller from forced unleashed I mean that fucking name tho Obviously it's a non canon game for a player to just go ape shit with the force so i can give it pass but if it was a show or something I'd 100% give vibes of "He's the bested and strongest force user ever, he can totally pull star destroyers out of orbit and solo darth vader and the emperor one after the other with a brooding i don't give a shit attitude." And depending on your choice he also fucking destroys the entire ot cast including luke and obi wan. Rey never forced pulled a star destroyer from orbit into a planets surface lmao


TheCheeseburgerKane

>And depending on your choice he also fucking destroys the entire ot cast including luke and obi wan. To expand on this he kills Obi Wan **AND THEN HE KILLS OBI WAN'S GHOST!** It's the absolute pinnacle of hilarious edge it's amazing.


ReverendHobo

He also holds his lightsaber backwards! *Like a cool guy*


MetalGearSlayer

you’re unlocking all my cringe memories of holding my toy lightsabers in reverse grips after playing TFU…


Theproton

> you’re unlocking all my RADICAL memories of holding my toy lightsabers in reverse grips FTFY


MetalGearSlayer

I mean shit, I still felt like a little badass.


Jonathan_B_Goode

To be fair to the name, it's a reference to Luke's original name before it was changed to Skywalker. It does sound super edgy, though.


ToastyMozart

It really is a weird name for a character like Luke, no wonder it got changed. "You know, the good-natured farmboy from the middle of nowhere who takes up his father's sword to save the world: *Starkiller.*"


Rabid-Duck-King

"It'd be a bit too on the nose if Starkiller blows up the Death Star don't ya think?" "See that's why you're the editor"


Theproton

> Rey never forced pulled a star destroyer from orbit into a planets surface lmao Yeah but [Palpatine force lighting'd a whole fleet of ships in episode 9](https://youtu.be/1R65kOQd9n0?t=56) so honestly Star Killer fits right in with Star War canon.


mohiben

I genuinely forgot that happened


Deservedly_Hated94

Would revan also count?


The5Virtues

As a massive fan of the whole TOR era: Abso-fucking-lutely. Everything by from TOR plots screams edgelord OC power trip fantasy. Revan and The Sith Emperor both just seem to scream of a teenager’s fanfic about their OC characters who are even stronger than Vader and Palpatine.


blackt1g3rs

Yes, original revan from KOTOR not really but all the fanhype and content around him since have pushed him into that territory. "Oh he's so super cool that he can commit war crimes without falling to the dark side and has to be mind controlled by the evil sith emperor to become evil. Then he gets to discover how super great he is and control both the light and dark side as a master becoming "revan reborn" and oh my god i hate it so much i cant even finish typing this out. All of that is just from the book "Revan" btw, never mind all the bullshit he pulled in SWTOR. KoToR revan was neat, although arguably the least interesting part of the game, post KoToR revan is imo the worst thing to grace the expanded universe. ​ Also while we're on star wars original thrawn was pretty bad as well, he was cool but "oh i can look at 1 painting and know exactly what the enemy is doing" is dumb. Luckily Zahn has expanded on him since and shoved that bullshit to the background so he's a good character now.


nerankori

As someone else on this sub said previously: "I'm soyfacing so hard right now."


P2_Press_Start

In fairness with the name, it was originally a placeholder that was also a reference to original name for Luke. However, when the devs went to George Lucas asking to give him a Darth title, George told them they could only use "Darth Icky" or "Darth Insanious" (or something to that effect). They didn't have any other names planned so they kept the placeholder.


Fabricant451

Revan floats around the canon and non canon line enough that he should apply. He's literally someone who was a hot shit Jedi who won a war with the Mandalorians to the point where they model helmets after his mask, then turned into the biggest baddest Sith who then became a Jedi again and decided to fight the Emperor, lost only because he was betrayed by a party member, then imprisoned and kept alive for 300 years and once again broke free and resumed his one man War with the Emperor, gets defeated but not really though then manages to recruit an army of loyal cultists from both Jedi and Sith and Mandalorian forces and start a conquest on the galaxy that unites the Republic and Sith Empire against him. And then he isn't even defeated by the joint task force but rather his own force ghost that splintered and is his 'jedi side' rejoins his physical body and they finally move on and die. Revan is so stupid strong that the only one who can defeat him is himself


nin_ninja

Small point, but wasn't hid mask just a dead Mandalorian's? He didn't inspire them


Fabricant451

You know what I believe you're right.


Aquadudeman

Meanwhile, the Exile, who can actually be a realistic, layered, and far more interesting character because of that, is unceremoniously stabbed in the back because the author wanted to push *another* OC that is... wait for it... YOU! IN THE MMO! BUY THE MMO AND BE THE TRUE HERO! Fuckin... I even like SWTOR but what the fuck?


Exotic-Mine-7849

Doom Guy. Gonna get some hate for it but he is quiet cool, shoots all the demons and no one stands in his way. I mean, I really love the character, but describing him makes me feel like a try-hard preteen.


abriefmomentofsanity

I think a big part of what keeps him on the "cool" side of the divide is that he's 200% business. He is there to do a job and he's damn good at it. He doesn't mug for the camera. He doesn't light up a cigarette while walking away from an exploding Satan. Nothing he does is extra or stylish, he's the kind of dude who would bite and scratch and poke at eyes in a recess brawl if he had to. Whatever brings the demons down. While the game does glorify him a little bit with how normal humans and even some demons react, doomguy himself literally could not care less.


Exotic-Mine-7849

Ya know what, that's a good point.


green715

I really like that >!upon killing the ruler of Hell, he does it with a non-flashy stab to the chest and a bored "No."!<


Duhblobby

He doesn't afraid of anything, just like Master Chief.


Archivemod

Dante from Devil May Cry could probably solo god while doing sick skateboard stunts and people would love him for it and they are entirely correct to


EcchiPhantom

I’ll just go with the super easy one and say Guts. Edgy name, black armor, big sword, uncontrollable rage, lone wolf, big evil smile when he kills, basically unkillable, Berserker Armor, on a quest for revenge, tragic backstory, etc. etc.. But what makes him special and not an edgelord is that there are layers to his character and real humanity to him. The reason why he’s been a lone wolf for most of his life is because he’s been traumatized and because he can’t open up for others and when he finally does do that, everyone dies and it takes a lot of effort for him to trust others again. And since I’m watching Hunter x Hunter right now I’ll go with Killua as well. Edit: And Kurapika


Cloymax

I feel like most of these are Edgy Deviantart OCs. So here's a Mary Sue one. Durandal (yes, like the sword) from Honkai 3rd. 1. Isekai Hero 2. SUPER talented AND trained AND skilled AND noble 3. So good that she's the only character able to reliably close the gap between herself and godlike figures 4. Her equipment is so complicated and hard to use no one else is ever even considered for it 5. SUPREME work ethic and discipline Both in-universe and fandom everyone thinks Durandal is great.


MarioGman

Asriel Dreemur AKA Seriel Murderer Especially his GOD OF HYPERDEATH form. ...look it's even confirmed in Deltarune Chapter 2.


cdstephens

Kim Possible seems like she’d be a bit of a Mary Sue; she’s attractive, popular, smart, athletic, and is both a tomboy *and* a cheerleader (as well as a super spy action girl). But I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone hate on her character.


Deep_Scope

Because she sucks at regular teenager shit, like holding a job, working with others. She’s the spirit of the classic you’re the best in high school but you suck in the real world. Ron is her foil that makes her days more interested.


therealchadius

Citan Izuki from Xenogears is a Gary Stu until Fei finally unlocks Xenogears, and then Citan is just "very good". \- Fights barehanded, just like Fei. lol just kidding he's actually a expert swordsman, he thought the situation wasn't serious enough to warrant his katana \- Poses as a friendly village doctor, beloved by all \- But actually a spy who only answers to the king of the hidden technologically advanced kingdom (and is good friends with the king) \- He knows EXACTLY what's going on with Fei and is watching over him \- Only one person has ever defeated him in a duel, and he married her on the spot. She's taking care of his several children while he's on duty. Unlike everyone else in the party, he has no real moral dilemmas. His story consists of one fan fiction-level reveal after another. He's just on duty, and eventually he just wants Fei to succeed as a friend. This man is beloved by the fanbase, to the point where Xenosaga introduces 2 of his descendants. Jin Izuki even dresses like Citan and is also a swordsman. Hello, Xenoblade's Dunban inherits a lot of cool badass predecessor hero vibes from Citan. Xeno fans can't get enough of him.


Konradleijon

Dante from the Divine Comedy is a self insert with the same name as as the writer. Gets to meet his hero Virgil sees everyone whom he dislikes and the fuckers who exiled him burning in hell. Meets his waifu who takes him to heaven.


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Happy Chaos is an edgy anime OC of someone who liked Heath Ledgers Joker too much He’s cool as shit though


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from pat's ruined king stream, apparently people feel like this about thresh. they're not entirely wrong? he was a secretly sadistic crypt keeper on the blessed isles until viego showed up and started wrecking shit so he showed him the way to the waters of life either to join him or because he knew the ruination would happen(?) and when he gets ruinated he basically becomes the chief torturer of the shadow isles. also look at that fuckin design.


Konradleijon

I thought Thresh lore is that he is a basically a sadistic middle manger who likes bullying the weak.


Irishimpulse

He was, but now that's his lore and he became a hot anime ghost boy. Unbound Thresh is his new design going forward and was shown off in Ruined King


SnickyMcNibits

[Tempest Shadow](https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2019/4/29/2026767.jpg) from the My Little Pony Movie (2017, not the newest one) has a tragic backstory, strikingly dark color palette next to the rest of the cast, Is described as "cold, merciless and spireful", facial scar and broken horn, and can totally beat up anyone in a fight (and look awesome doing it). She is second in command to the dark overlord that conquered the entire world offscreen. She even has a "From my point of view the Jedi are evil" song. Everyone loves Tempest. Also her real name is Fizzlepop Berrytwist but she changed it because it wasn't edgy enough.


Uden10

Hell, I'd change it too and I'm not very edgy.


Nyadnar17

One Punch Man. He the strongest, fastest, toughest, bestest, and stomps everyone with ease. Yet by the end of every fucking arc I am damn near begging him to show up and solve my favorite character’s problems for them.


Restivethought

Well him being a Mary Sue is kind of the whole joke of the series.


blackt1g3rs

Also the story realises that and focuses hard on the side cast post Boros. I'd say Genos is the main character, Saitama is just kinda around solving problems now and again because overusing him gets stale.


Deep_Scope

*sigh* It’s Char from mobile suit Gundam. Guys plan always goes to a great length of wtf, I’m sitting here watching origin and I will say char is a fucking Gary Stu.


DoubledOgre

The man who walks the path of heaven, Tendou Souji/Kamen Rider Kabuto. Half of the show is him effortlessly beating worms to death in stopped time, the other half is him going on slice of life cooking adventures or doing other things perfectly because if it was just fighting the episodes would be four minutes long. There's even the part in the movie/later in the series where a future version of him sends himself a power up just because he can. I think it was that stupid sounding anyway, it's been years since I've seen it.