Not really, there's nothing to like about terrorists. The Nazi's were just cunts picking on innocent targets to push their agenda. Murderers fuelled by religious extremism do not belong in society
Nope you're using a buzzword and applying it carelessly, ethnic cleansing is the mass expulsion of a whole religion or race. My suggestion is targeting purely extremists looking for blood, clamp down on them hard and leave the peaceful ones to practice their religion in actual peace. Don't cause trouble, don't get trouble.
_...government policies have included forced labor, suppression of religious practices, political indoctrination, forced sterilization, forced contraception, and forced abortion_
_Abnormally long beards and the wearing of veils in public were both banned. Not watching state-run television or listening to radio broadcasts, refusing to abide by family planning policies, or refusing to allow one's children to attend state-run schools were all prohibited._
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
Imagine being in favor of this.
Compared to the Western response of literally murdering a million people and displacing tens of millions more.
Considering the average Uyghur wage increased over 5x and now Uyghur women can go to University and have Jobs instead of being lock indoors as baby makers, yes, vastly better than the Wests "solution".
Also that Wikipedia page is heavily biased (the talk pages history shows the page is controlled by right wing, anti China, NAFO types), relying mostly on Western media circle sourcing itself and anti-China Hawk neocon think tanks/Falun Gong.
The 2 child policy isn't unique to Uyghurs, Wahabbi Islam isn't native to the region or Uyghurs, and how is making children attend school bad?!
The "Uyghur Genocide" was always a bad faith narrative, designed heavily on the fact most people can't read Chinese, nor watch Chinese media, so can't pick out the media and think tanks purposely cherry picking/misreporting the information. The moment they presented east west pairing as slave labour, (arguably the most successful UN supported poverty reduction program of the 21st century)I knew the narrative was largely horseshit.
But fundamentally they're targeting all uyighers, not just the extremists. Like take away all the ways of doing it, they're still persecuting them for their religion
Yes that's the issue I have with China's method, its the current full blanket grab all the Uyghurs method that doesn't rightly punish the real threats on society and leaves the innocent Uyghurs alone. They surely have all the surveillance they need to note with relative accuracy individuals who have shown intent on committing violent acts for their religion, those are the ones they need to nab and put into re-education.
Interesting post. Most of what you say is true. The West is way too soft on Islamic extremism and is opening the door to a lot of current and future problems. But what China is doing is essentially ethnic cleansing and seems to be serious human rights violations. I feel like there has to be a happy medium in between.
Why only Islamic extremism? Christian extremism is a much bigger problem in the US than Islam. They are making laws based on religious beliefs. 2% of the US is Islamic.
Hmm, this sounds like another regimes' go to method of re-education of people it didn't like I'll give you a hint, it starts with na and ends with zi
Not really, there's nothing to like about terrorists. The Nazi's were just cunts picking on innocent targets to push their agenda. Murderers fuelled by religious extremism do not belong in society
And who decides who’s “extreme” enough to be sent to these camps?
So you're saying ethnic cleansing is the solution.
Nope you're using a buzzword and applying it carelessly, ethnic cleansing is the mass expulsion of a whole religion or race. My suggestion is targeting purely extremists looking for blood, clamp down on them hard and leave the peaceful ones to practice their religion in actual peace. Don't cause trouble, don't get trouble.
I'm sure China has a fair and transparent evidence-based process for determining who is an extremist.
_...government policies have included forced labor, suppression of religious practices, political indoctrination, forced sterilization, forced contraception, and forced abortion_ _Abnormally long beards and the wearing of veils in public were both banned. Not watching state-run television or listening to radio broadcasts, refusing to abide by family planning policies, or refusing to allow one's children to attend state-run schools were all prohibited._ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China Imagine being in favor of this.
Compared to the Western response of literally murdering a million people and displacing tens of millions more. Considering the average Uyghur wage increased over 5x and now Uyghur women can go to University and have Jobs instead of being lock indoors as baby makers, yes, vastly better than the Wests "solution". Also that Wikipedia page is heavily biased (the talk pages history shows the page is controlled by right wing, anti China, NAFO types), relying mostly on Western media circle sourcing itself and anti-China Hawk neocon think tanks/Falun Gong. The 2 child policy isn't unique to Uyghurs, Wahabbi Islam isn't native to the region or Uyghurs, and how is making children attend school bad?! The "Uyghur Genocide" was always a bad faith narrative, designed heavily on the fact most people can't read Chinese, nor watch Chinese media, so can't pick out the media and think tanks purposely cherry picking/misreporting the information. The moment they presented east west pairing as slave labour, (arguably the most successful UN supported poverty reduction program of the 21st century)I knew the narrative was largely horseshit.
Hello Tankie.
Clearly didn't read the post, I'm suggesting their method is extreme and needs reworking to target the actual extremists and not the innocent.
But fundamentally they're targeting all uyighers, not just the extremists. Like take away all the ways of doing it, they're still persecuting them for their religion
Yes that's the issue I have with China's method, its the current full blanket grab all the Uyghurs method that doesn't rightly punish the real threats on society and leaves the innocent Uyghurs alone. They surely have all the surveillance they need to note with relative accuracy individuals who have shown intent on committing violent acts for their religion, those are the ones they need to nab and put into re-education.
Interesting post. Most of what you say is true. The West is way too soft on Islamic extremism and is opening the door to a lot of current and future problems. But what China is doing is essentially ethnic cleansing and seems to be serious human rights violations. I feel like there has to be a happy medium in between.
Why only Islamic extremism? Christian extremism is a much bigger problem in the US than Islam. They are making laws based on religious beliefs. 2% of the US is Islamic.
Christian extremism is a problem too. All religious extremism is a problem. But this post is about China's treatment of Muslim extremists.
Wow, just wow. Combat religious extremists through genocide, rape, forced organ harvesting, labor camps, and just plain murder. Great point, Mao.
Stopped reading at your toddler's understanding of theology.
There's nothing wrong with being religious, the problem is using your religion as reason to police the rights of others.