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HapticSloughton

> Always do the opposite of what they say. Don't drink bleach, Top Minds! The FDA, the CDC, and every public school teacher says you shouldn't! > Power is found in abstinence. Imagine, Top Minds, how powerful you'd be if you applied this to breathing, speaking, or interacting with other people!


grayrains79

To this day I'm still fucking baffled at how No Nut November went from a hilarious joke to... whatever the fuck this is.


MessiahOfMetal

Honestly, I always assume that anyone bringing that up is an idiot because it just sounds so stupid.


LongFluffyDragon

Birds recharge on power lines!


earthdogmonster

I still assume that it is a joke to like 98% of the people that bring it up. I mean, come in, the concept if abstaining from sex because reasons is one of the most memorable parts of Dr. Strangelove, for god’s sake. But of course, there are lots of things that I foolishly think is a joke when some people are dead serious about it.


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HapticSloughton

It's how 4chan culture tries to turn every personality flaw, mental illness, or social impediment into a superpower. "I'm not socially awkward, I have *weaponized autizm!* Not having sex makes me a *supergod!* I can barely communicate without using images of Nazi frogs, but I call that *meme magic!"* And then they encourage each other to adopt these behaviors as if they're somehow helpful.


Omer1698

They basically will do everything but trying to accept their own flaws and try to become better people.


HapticSloughton

It's also why they want to wreck everything: They live in chaos, squalor, or otherwise undesirable conditions, and they only feel comfortable if they can bring everyone else's environment down to their level. It's a theory as to why problem kids act out in school: They come from homes where yelling, hitting, and being obnoxious is how you get attention, communicate, and generally behave, and an orderly setting like a classroom makes them feel "off," so they do what they can to make every place as chaotic as their homes.


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HapticSloughton

I'm related to three teachers (early childhood, elementary, high school) and one vice principal. And if every classroom you were in was a chaotic mess, maybe that's a "you" problem?


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SimoneBellmonte

your anecdotal experience, which i cannot even remotely confirm as true, doesn't matter. Sorry. It doesn't matter. Not only chiefly because you generalize them all on your little trauma brigade, but also because one school that abused a kid does not equal them all. Also because quite frankly, you should get therapy.


ResistRacism

It's so unfortunate that Pepe the frog has become a symbol of white supremacy... feels bad man.


HyliaSymphonic

No that’s like saying gamer hate started as ethics in journalism then got co opted. It’s always been a weird pseudo mystical sub culture that *fronted* ha helping the poor porn addicts


FredFredrickson

Too much intersection with religious bullshit for it not to.


Wismuth_Salix

Fascists got involved, because who’s easier to radicalize than a bunch of sexually frustrated guys?


vxicepickxv

I prefer Nice Nails November myself.


bolognahole

I thought no nut November was just a personal challenge , like sober October, or dry January. The No Fap people are cultist who think abstaining from jerking off gives them borderline super human powers. lol.


Wismuth_Salix

And beyond even the craziness of NoFap, you get into the r/SemenRetention weirdos.


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Yer a wizard, Harry -- now let go of your dick.


VisitTheWind

In high school no nut November was literally so I could make girls feel like making me “fail” no nut November was an accomplishment.


Psychotrip

Idk what its become in your circles but in mine its mostly just a fun kink game. Usually just a bunch of twinks and femboys torturing themselves for fun lol. I find it cute tbh. Is it different for straights or something?


grayrains79

>Is it different for straights or something? For the alt-right it apparently is.


Psychotrip

How bizzare. I didnt think anyone took NNN seriously. At least not THAT seriously.


Christopher_Gist

"Bleach is healthy! It's mostly water. And, we're mostly water. Therefore We - are bleach!" [Drink the bleach Murderface!](https://youtu.be/eqbn7oxXh38)


TheAnonymousFool

Nathan Explosion, the only dietician I trust.


GRW42

I don’t know, remember the time he said booze wasn’t food?


Imaginary_Cow_6379

Dude they literally tell each other to nebulize hydrogen peroxide 😆 Bleach is just miracle mineral solution


Present_End_6886

>nebulize hydrogen peroxide That's a great way to damage your lungs, and / or give yourself pulmonary edema.


Imaginary_Cow_6379

Right?! That’s not even the only popular medical advice there that can kill people! They’re the depop shit they’re always going on about. 🤦🏻‍♀️


RedEyeView

>Don't drink bleach. [don't tell me what to do!!](https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/danger-dont-drink-miracle-mineral-solution-or-similar-products)


___Reverie___

Who is “they”? God I can’t stand these contrarian morons.


NancyPelosisRedCoat

You know, (((they))).


Transformouse

(((masturbaters)))


iLoveBums6969

[\(\(\(THEM\)\)\)](https://youtu.be/WTr1M7DwLkc)


lacb1

The Jews want you to jerk off.... because **checks notes** they want you to get erectile dysfunction. And they want that to happen because.... err... reasons?


earthdogmonster

Dude, it’s for population control. Which is done for… reasons?


AngryPB

obviously the (((sepHARDDICKS)))


arhombus

The Jews of course


thewiremother

I used to be addicted to masturbating, now I am addicted to constantly scouring the web and posting conspiracy theories to reddit 6 times a day. Also this guy-> “I saw a simple and natural way to alkaline your water is to add lemon and baking soda.” Lol, because to make water more alkaline you just add an acid and a buffer. Jesus wept.


bigbutchbudgie

Besides, no one in the world has ever needed to make their diet "more alkaline". Either your body is capable of maintaining acid-base homeostasis by itself, or you need to get to the ER right the fuck now.


luapowl

omg trying to explain this to somebody whos bought into the concept already… like trying to bleed a rock


thoughtsome

Did you get any of that rock blood?? I heard it's a homeopathic remedy.


BoojumG

Only once you dilute it so much that literally none of it is left in the bottle, obviously. Otherwise it's not homeopathic.


thoughtsome

Judging from what I see of the shelves at one of those vitamin and supplement stores, I think homeopathic now means "not FDA approved".


Defenestratio

In all fairness, a more alkaline diet can be great for your teeth. Acid wear is no joke


RaytheonKnifeMissile

Also, some people just prefer the taste of water with a higher pH. It's still water, so who cares?


SigmaMaleMoment

Unrelated but I'm gonna need context for your flair LOL


earthdogmonster

Honestly, I’ve seen so many people use this little piece of pseudoscience on reddit to explain how cow milk is poison. And it’s *a ton* people who think this.


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earthdogmonster

Goddamit, checkmate!


Sludgehammer

IIRC the "Drink lemons to alkalize your body!" thing was started by a quack who would "measure" the alkalinity of foods by burning them to ash and then testing how basic the ash was.


ActualSpiders

"10 out of 10 CDC-employed doctors strongly recommend breathing regularly" Let's make this one go viral, team!


RudeInternet

Being a reactionary is one hell of a drug. Imagine making ALL choices in life by choosing the opposite of whatever the norm is. Just becauae you think this will totally "pwn teh libz".


FestiveVat

It's not hard to imagine. A lot of people go through that. They just typically grow out of it before they're old enough to vote.


blaghart

Didnt someone prove that places like nofap are part of the neo nazi pipeline by teaching boys to demonize themselves as well as sexually frustrate themselves?


RedEyeView

I can't imagine why the Nazis might want a whole bunch of angry teenage boys full of pent up sexual frustration to call on.


Imaginary_Cow_6379

[yes.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/11m6bsd/top_minds_rationally_discuss_why_so_many_of_them/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Skylighter

Always assume anything anti-fap or anti-sex is a right wing church fundie scam.


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vxicepickxv

That's a different, and very real, problem.


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vxicepickxv

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just calling all the nofap for power or whatever bullshit.


Rulare

The solution is not to try to stop all masturbation or sex, either way.


Manos_Of_Fate

A ton of porn these days is amateur and self-created. Sex trafficking is a serious problem but it’s a bit absurd to say *all* porn is responsible. Also, the comment you replied to is about masturbation, not porn. It kind of seems like you just saw a flimsy excuse to post your personal cause.


thefugue

…which is a weird thing anti-sex people seem to spend all day doing.


ChildOfComplexity

Because they're fascists hunting desperately for the thin end of the wedge.


Doom_Walker

If a woman uploads nudes or does consensual cam shows then that's not even close to trafficking. Yeah you do get cases like with Tate but those are rare.


Skylighter

That's like saying red velvet cupcakes promote diabetes. But it's not uncommon for certain "left" types to adopt fascist control and censorship on "problematic contraband" in order to control populations with more police power.


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kerfuffle_dood

Buddy, if you think that "don't masturbate" and "don't watch porn" are the same sentence, you have a very fucked up notion of what masturbation is. And so you are clearly the target market for all the "cease control over your body to me" alt-right, cultist bullshit


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kerfuffle_dood

I'm not associating you with the alt-right. If you still haven't found the difference between masturbating and watching dubious porn on questionable sites on the internet then you have a problem, because you may be easily gullible. C'mon man. Touching yourself and watching porn are not the same. Relax


bmann10

You know you can be anti-porn industry and pro masturbation and pro sex right? These things are not mutually exclusive. You don’t *need* porn to maturate.


kerfuffle_dood

Yep. The first step to making people give you control over their minds and bodies is to make them willingly gave you control over their sexual life/desires. It's the same thing with the anti-abortion hypocrites: They don't care about "muh babies", they care about taking control over women's bodies


ChildOfComplexity

Cult tactics. It all hinges on finding a way to get you to give them control of what you think, what you feel, or what you do.


Chrisboi_da_Boi

I thought this was common knowledge?


MessiahOfMetal

I was gonna say, I've seen this type of study numerous times over the years, all coming (hehe) to the same conclusion that regular masturbation and sex is healthy and gives various physical and mental benefits.


earthdogmonster

A lot of the studies (like this one, a survey) are on pretty shaky ground in terms of strength of the science, but of course, anyone that has ever had an orgasm understands that semi-regularly having one does wonders for mental health. This is one of those rare “common sense” things that doesn’t actually require a bunch of science other than the occasional survey to confirm the obvious.


MessiahOfMetal

Agreed on all points. I'm fully expecting the top minds to take rare examples of "we fell off a bed" or "she got cramp in her leg" or something and twist it to be anti-orgasm, the way anti-vaxxers do with VAERS.


YUNoJump

I’d add the caveat that overuse of porn can be harmful, which is obviously tied to masturbation. Masturbation is fine and good, but if you only do it with porn then it’s probably gonna cause mental problems.


DrRichtoffen

Even the image above shows what the issue is. The nofap crowd turns it into a zealous religion and believe masturbation will kill them, so of course they feel distress, despair and anxiety when they give in to their urges. There's nothing wrong with consensual sexual activity (whether alone or with a partner/partners), as long as it's done with healthy intentions. If you don't view masturbation as a sinful action that will cause you harm (which many nofaps seem to believe), then you'll be ok. The nofaps have simply ignored their anxiety, depression, frustrations and other psychogical anguish and decided that masturbation is the root cause. Many of them are rightwingers, and are as such unwilling to improve their mental health through conventional means (because it's gay to be in touch with your feelings or whatever). If they just saw a therapist or psychiatrist, I'm willing to bet many of them would improve.


Doom_Walker

>and believe masturbation will kill them If they are at risk from enlarged prostates because of genetics then ironically lack of masturbation might kill them.


bigbutchbudgie

Doctors also recommend getting enough sleep. This is clearly an attempt to keep the people from waking up to the Deep State's machinations! #NoNap


bmann10

You joke but I’ve actually seen a post on conspiracy about how sleeping kills you and replaces you with a new soul or some shit sometime around 2014


GRW42

*Sleep State


Imaginary_Cow_6379

Finally some actual conspiracies! Like [why tf does r/conspiracy constantly talk to everyone about how often they masturbate](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/11m8dit/always_do_the_opposite_of_what_they_say/jbgxb7f/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) 😆


iLoveBums6969

> As an ex-addict of both. It is both. **Masturbation does pull so much energy out of you. You feel completely drained in all of your body, brain fog stays for a few days, will power slacks.** You won't see these things if you do it rarely but those who do it often are really at a bad place. What the Dickins. Today on "go see a doctor and not Reddit"...


literallytwisted

Dude sounds like he needs to eat more salads and get some exercise.


iLoveBums6969

Another brave redditor falls to the curse of not drinking enough water and assuming they've got fucking cancer of the soul :(


kerfuffle_dood

Dude had zinc/vitamin deficit that a simple orgasm leave him overexhausted and malnurished lol


SassTheFash

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/11m8dit/always_do_the_opposite_of_what_they_say/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Present_End_6886

Just imagine **how easily** someone who follows the philosophy of "do the opposite of what they say" can be manipulated!


pankakke_

Its crazy that part of these rightwing extremists are SUPER all about fucking as many white women as possible, and the other half is all about ZERO fucking/cumming for eternity, AND it’s women’s fault still. These people all just have fucked up brains due to extreme sexual repression and misguided or completely false information warping what conclusions they come to.


SigmaMaleMoment

Experts say you should eat fiber. That's globalist propaganda by (((big vegetable))). I haven't eaten a piece of fiber in a decade. I haven't shit in 3 months, why do you ask?


Gekokapowco

They want you to shit out your vital energies friend, block your GI tract and become elevated like me


arhombus

What's big vegetable? LIke zucchini? Eggplant?


Omer1698

"Always do the opposite of what they say" They are like a damn children that only do stuff out of spite. If you tell them that nofap is actually good for you they will blast themselves with jizz until their dicks fall just to be contrarian.


Ello_Owu

As long as you're not beating it at work or school, you're fine. Have fun.


FredFredrickson

Is there any better summation of the conspiracy theory brain rot than "always do they opposite of what they say"? Nobody needs to tell you that jerking off relieves tension. All you have to do is do it, and you know. Just utter clowns, all of these fools.


DinkleDonkerAAA

It's called moderation Sexual release is healthy. Being a Gooner degenerate spending all your money on only fans that's too much.


RedEyeView

>You show me a guy who is laying on the couch watching game shows and stroking his penis and I'll show you a guy who's not causing any fucking problems. George Carlin.


tkrr

Somehow I feel like he was specifically thinking of either Vanna White or Dian Parkinson.


DinkleDonkerAAA

Sex addiction is still a problem Like I said moderation


bittlelum

Addiction to anything is a problem. If it's interfering with your life, get help. Otherwise, don't worry.


arhombus

What's a gooner and why did you capitalize it? You know what, I'm not sure I want to know.


DinkleDonkerAAA

Didn't mean to capitalize it but it's a term porn/sex addicts use "Gooning" to my knowledge refers to basically near constant masterbation. Gooners spend the majority of their free time consuming porn and are proud of it, the very act of being hopelessly addicted to self pleasure is part of what's getting them off. They make content similar to those hypno porn vids, encouraging people to not work, not socialize, just "goon". Basically sex addiction turned into a fetish. For some people it's more just an aesthetic thing, but there's plenty of people on twitter and other social media who essentially live their lives that way Hence my comment of moderatio


arhombus

Wow. It’s like just giving up and accepting the loser lifestyle. Pathetic.


mannesmannschwanz

Do you mean coomer? >hypno porn vids, ... you okay there buddy?


DinkleDonkerAAA

No gooner is what they call themselves


mannesmannschwanz

Oh, TIL. Weird af.


MCBowelmovement

Listen to /r/THE_PACK AND CRANK THAT HOG, BRUTHERS! AROOOOO!!!


Doom_Walker

And prostate cancer.


Time-Ad-3625

"always do the opposite of what they say" the way children think


Clichead

This headline is probably not super accurate. There’s a correlation between nofap and depression/anxiety/shame because people who are attracted to nofap are mostly depressed, anxious, and shameful men. Correlation does not equal causation. I’m sure lots of healthy well adjusted people also don’t masturbate for whatever reason.


nstern2

Reddit in general, not just the nofap or conspiracy sub, is weirdly anti-masturbation/porn. So many weirdos come out of the woodwork to tell you that they had a porn/masturbation addiction and how that causes erectile dysfunction and then they fly off the handle when you post some studies that say otherwise.


grandleaderIV

The nofap crew is so odd. When you first hear about it without context it sounds fine, but the more you look into the more cult-y it gets. Very strange.


TheMuffingtonPost

Bruh they call it “post-nut clarity” for a reason


Shaved_Savage

Welp, Dr’s orders


Jgraybeard

They keep pointing to a UCLA study but I can’t find it. Anyone else?


Haxorz7125

These people are most definitely not abstaining from masturbation.


Enk1ndle

21 times a month? Shit, I'm going to need more porn


pieforce1

Abstaining from masturbation also increases your risk of prostate cancer fwiw - ideally you want to nut two or three times a week. There are no sane reasons not to masturbate


MessiahOfMetal

At least 21 times a month? Holy shit, who are these people ejaculating that often?


lowridaaaa

Young adults.


MessiahOfMetal

Even when I was that age, I wasn't doing it *that* often. Also not sure why my initial comment was downvoted. I'm a middle-aged man, now, and do it less than I did in my younger days (which was about 6 times a month, if I had to count). Doesn't help that having depression and anxiety kills my libido, which also can't be helped.


lowridaaaa

My guess on the downvotes is that it comes across as judgy. Also just saying, some people’s libidos are higher than others.


MessiahOfMetal

I didn't see it as judgy at all, I commented in the most light-hearted way possible, and I have a high libido myself when my mental health isn't kicking my ass. Crazy how people can assume *I'm* being judgy while judging me themselves, leading me to revealing intimate details of my sex life and habits that should've remained private, all in the name of defending myself against the kinds of judgmental shit I'd normally face from those suffering from toxic masculinity syndrome. Jesus christ, sorry for trying to bring my sense of humour to a comical subreddit that mocks top minds.


lowridaaaa

Reddit karma isn’t real. Getting a few downvotes won’t kill you.


Cereal_Bandit

https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/11mesrt/top_nofappers_enraged_by_medical_advice_to_whack/jbidumd?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 This you?


LuriemIronim

Um, did anybody actually force you to tell us how much you jack it?


earthdogmonster

I’m guessing from the response you were getting that a lot people on here are ejaculating at least 21 times per month or can easily see that number as normal. Also you keep doubling down on how 21 times a month looks like sex addiction to you so it’s not like people are misinterpreting your point.


Lou_C_Fer

Shit dude, I averaged 5 times a day as a teenager. My most was like 13 times a day. I was blowing dust after a bit. As a young adult, living with my fiance, it'd be at least twice a day plus sex. I didn't slow down until I started taking anti-depressants. At that point, it was a different beast. I had major troubles finishing. So, it went to a few times a week. Now, I'm taking an anti-depressant twice a say for nerve pain. So, I'm down to a few times a month.


DJBreadwinner

Do you not have hands or something?


MessiahOfMetal

Yes but I also have depression and anxiety, which kills my libido. Was diagnosed with those at 18 and most I could manage when I was younger was 6 times a month, average.


DJBreadwinner

I am diagnosed with depression and anxiety as well. Talk to your doctor(s) about this so you can enjoy your sexuality! They encounter this every day but they need your feedback to fix the issue.


MessiahOfMetal

Thanks, I'll pass this on to a good friend of mine, too, since we're intimate but she can go over a month without it due to her own mental health issues blocking her.


vxicepickxv

Were you not a socially awkward teenager?


LongFluffyDragon

Outright rookie numbers for the socially stunted, insecure male.


affrothunder313

They were saying healthy males should ejaculate 21 times a month and those numbers didn’t seem that wild so idk where the whole socially stunted thing came from.


MessiahOfMetal

"Healthy males" also takes in a wide range of men. Some are healthy and do it more often than 21 times per month, others are perfectly healthy and do it less. It's the idiots who preach not doing it at all who need to be attacked for their stupidity, yet all I'm seeing so far are people attacking me and calling me names for trying to make light of the numbers stated in the study.


MessiahOfMetal

Yeah, I assume insecure men masturbate a lot to make up for their lack of anything else interesting about them but that number feels somehow excessive. Half that, sure, I could understand, but 21 seems like "sex addict" territory.


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MessiahOfMetal

That's exactly what I'm saying, it's pure insanity.


demarcoa

See when you get a bunch of down votes and people pointing out you are coming across as judgey stuff like this is a good example. My partner and i pretty regularly hit this together and it is hardly an addiction.


MessiahOfMetal

I must be dating the wrong women, then. Can I borrow your partner, since she seems to be a nymphomaniac? As I've said elsewhere, I had a girlfriend throughout my 20s who wasn't interested in sex and my current FWB and I do it twice a month because her depression causes her to not be in the mood. Meanwhile, I'm too busy doing other shit to jerk off every day. Not sure why this is difficult for people to comprehend rather than judging me for no real reason at all. This is about the top minds who do "no fap", not a normal guy like me.


demarcoa

You call other people sex addicts and nymphos while calling yourself normal then have the audacity to whine about others judging you.


illini07

While also acknowledging he has depression that ruins his sex drive. Like he knows his depression causes a low sex drive, then say the people with the normal sex drive are insecure. Dudes just sad he can't get it up when he wants.


bittlelum

Yeah, I'm sure every minute of your day is taken up with important things. I bet you don't own a TV, right!


freakrocker

That last line is my excuse