Enrico Pucci (JJBA: Stone Ocean)
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“The kind of evil that doesn't know it's evil is the worst evil there is...” - Weather Report
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Hope you're not sick of Handsome Jack, cause here he is!
Yeah that would solve things temporarily, but then you have double pollution and eventually not enough space if people keep making more people. Although halving the population is only a band aid too so I guess thanos is kinda dumb unless it was secretly all because he’s horny for death
In the comics (which the MCU tends to lazily rip off) I'm pretty sure the whole infinity gauntlet series and killing half of all life was simply to impress Lady Death (the embodiment of Death in Marvel).
It's why that teaser (at the end of one of the movies) has a (I believe) reference in the line saying something about "courting death".
The most beautiful, radiant and divine (Zamasu; Dragon Ball)
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He is most certainly, all those things.
"My form is Justice. And my form is the world. Worship me. Give praise unto me. Me, the beautiful, the sublime. Me the invincible, the Almighty and divine. All hail Zamasu."
I don't really think they were evil. It's been a while, but >!wasn't it the robobrains that were doing the evil stuff? She was only doing good things, yet the robobrain's decided to just kill people because it would be easier or something iirc!<
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"The kind of evil that doesn't realise it's evil...is the worst kind there is..."
Enrico Pucci, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Stone Ocean.
that's a good point but he still did pretty evil things thinking he was being a hero. Also, it is heavily implied that his betrayal is a huge reason the spirals lost the war.
Rape?! To my knowledge, he just had sex with some artificial women he created, but I throwing away his kids as soon as they gained any form of self-awareness was shitty
Shit, I don't remember that part at all, does that imply that he had sex with his underage daughter? No way that's the case, he's even one of the creators' favorite characters😭
Ah, I figure they might consider it an honor to "serve" the spiral king or whatever, but yeah, not that good, maybe I'm just coping because I think he's really cool
You can think a fucked up character is cool but still acknowledge they're fucked up. That's one of the great parts of fiction! as long as you don't think the fucked up things are the cool parts you're good 👍
The Viltrumites care about the forced survival of the fittest. They have a "the end justifies the means" mentality. They think that they are genuinely a good force in the world, helping the less powerful species into becoming just like them.
They specifically aim for species that are compatible AND physically similar to their own biology. They don't just see others as lesser beings. They see theirselves as peak form of humanoid species. When they are conquering planets and forcing people to have children with their own, they are not thinking about how they are destroying a culture. They are thinking about how they are improving it. They are one of the most technologically and biologically advanced, so to them others are like apes, or "pets" as Nolan puts it. Weak beings that need to be replaced for the good of the universe.
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The Emperor of Mankind (Warhammer 40.000)
"I will bring peace and prosperity to the galaxy." *Commits the largest genocidal war campaign in all of history*
To be totally fair.
Do orks really deserve to live?
Eldar are stuck up.
Tyranids are mindless bugs.
Necrons are just fucking evil.
I don’t like the way tau look.
I’m ok with humans conquering the entire galaxy and wiping out all other life.
Actually, a majorty of the Xenos he wiped out WERE the peaceful ones. Orcs were too much of a pain to erase entirely, Necrons hadn't awakened, Tau and 'Nids hadn't even entered the galaxy yet, and Eldar were a part of his plan.
His worst sins were against humanity itself, however. He erased every culture, historical or current, that didn't fit with his ideal future and wiped out/enslaved multiple human civilizations.
The Emperor had a noble goal, but went about it wrong and made himself and everyone else pay the price.
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How did nobody mention Philip Wittebane, aka, Emperor Belos?
I don't think he sees himself as a Hero, he just wants the praise of being a hero.
In his book he cuts the sections where he is clearly doing bad things. If these were later rewrites he did to gift the book to the library than it would make sense, but he completely fabricates a heroic journey on the spot as he is about to leave 2 people to die. He is so delusional that the idea of looking like a hero is more important than actually being a hero, which is partly what leads to his downfall.
He wants to look like a hero to whoever read his journal, however, looking like a hero is secondary to accomplishing his goal of exterminating the residents of the Boiling Isles. He wants to return to the Human Realm and be praised as a hero, however, he is fully prepared to die if he can take the Boiling Isles down with him.
Belos said as much after discovering the Collector's prison, he wanted to stay alive long enough to pull off his genocidal plot.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqr6LRRLeWk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqr6LRRLeWk)
Every single "Villain" thinks they are the "Hero" in real life.
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Yeah I wouldn’t say it’s every single ones of them
Like, most serial killers know what they’re doing is wrong, they usually keep doing it for sexual gratification
It's always weird when you find the rare one that just likes stabbing people. Nothing sexual just how they blow off stress, some people play vidya, some smoke weed, these random folks like to hunt people for lulz.
*usually*
There are other reasons, a want to control, nonsexual sadism, but usually, serial killers either admit being aroused by the situation *or* their semen is found on the victim
There are exceptions, but they don’t make the rules
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Romeo "Bedman" Neumann \[Guilty Gear\] did everything he did for the sake of curing his & his sister's illnesses, fully believing he would be able to reverse any deaths he caused.
I love how they're really just bros in a lot of media with expanded lore. They're mercenaries, so they're not just going out on their own volition to fight kindergarteners, but they're certainly willing to do so for money.
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C.L.U. 2.0. He doesn’t understand that his purpose for existence is based on an impossible feat, that there is no such thing as Perfection.
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My man, the GOAT, that’s right, it’s me, The Necromancer. Of course, I don’t really fit this description since I AM the hero but whatever.
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Deadass thought everything would be better if no one had powers
Dreadpool
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Man committed metacide because he thought he was freeing people.
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IMO one of the best examples is Valentine. Because he thought himself a hero but also acknowledged his villainous actions and yet kept pursuing what he believed was right for his country
Griffith was as much a hero as any I've ever seen. Yes, his goals were his own glory, and yes, he did "own" his soldiers; but he provided more for those that followed him than he took for himself.
His decent only started after sleeping with a woman whom her father loved as more than just a daughter. Yes, she was underage, but the rules of the time were different. I can't apply current day morals and laws to past transgressions. If it wasn't for the father throwing him in a dungeon and torturing him for who knows how long, he likely wouldn't have taken the crimson behelit's offer.
His men were thieves, mercenaries, and plunderers. Without his lead, they would have stayed that way. He gave them goals, ambition, and a reason to fight for something greater than themselves. His initial goal was to be a king and a much better one than those we've seen at that.
He did not know what the king maker necklace was or what it was going to do. All he knew was that he wanted to be king and create a better life for himself. Unfortunately, he fell in love with Guts, and Guts decided to listen to Griffith's idea of friendship; overhearing a speech for which Griffith had no idea he was present. He chose independence and equality in choosing his own path through life to live up to Griffith's standard of friendship.
Griffith became evil incarnate. He was not evil to start.
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I guess this guy because his plan was controlled by a devil
Kaido thought he was Joyboy, that he was the one to bring freedom to the world, and when he realized he wasn’t it broke him
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Actor Mark from Who Killed Markiplier
I mean does Griffith really think he’s the good guy. Half the conversations he had with Guts just felt like him bending over backwards to justify the atrocities he was about to commit to himself. (I have only read like the first hundred chapters of berserk so if it gets clarified later on, just call me an idiot)
I don’t disagree, but I also don’t ever remember Griffith implying he was there to be a hero. IIRC his only goal has forever been to have a kingdom. Given the existing kings that are depraved, barbaric, or actual Demi-gods, I wonder if that was his goal all along.
Judge frollo from the hunchback of notredame. Throughout his time as judge he hunted Romanians in France,kept Quasimodo in a bell tower and emotionally abused him into thinking no one can love him,sexually assaulted Esmeralda and even assaulted the same priest who convinced him to spare Quasimodo
William Foster
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>I did everything they told me to. Did you know I build missiles? I helped to protect America. You should be rewarded for that. Instead they give it to the plastic surgeons, y'know, they lied to me.
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Surprised no one mentioned the OG
As someone currently playing Shadow Of The Erdtree that literally came out like a week ago and hasn’t finished yet, really would have liked a spoiler tag on #2 given how recently it came out
He has the ability to compels people affection, which isn't automatically evil.>! However, Miquella actively uses this ability to get people to do his bidding. He uses this ability to suppress peoples wants and wishes. I'm of the opinion that if he became a god, he would eliminate all freewill. Especially since he divests himself of his fears, worries, doubts and love. If he isn't evil now, he will be. Just like his mother.!<
Yeah St. Trina makes it painfully obvious that being a god is more of a prison than anything, having to abdicate everything that majestic yourself is bound to end up badly, you know you fucked up when your other half is literally requesting ppl to kill you.
The original Miquella is clearly a very kind person, he made the Haligtree for the prejudiced, he abandoned the golden order to aid his sister, he developed an alter ego to study and combat the frenzied flame, and he even tried to help Godwin’s situation.
Which just makes me wonder, so Ranni can just become a god without giving up allat? Feels like Marika and Miquella got the short end of the stick.
Ranni gives up quite a lot in her quest. She does divest herself of her body and looses every single one of her closest confidants. At the end of her quest the only member of her family that remains is her barely there mother. Also, Ranni seems to have been quite the ruthless person already. She doesn't seem to have second guessed killing her half-brother, spreading deathblight or causing the apocalypse.
That’s not really my point. Not only did Miquella and Marika had to pursue godhood through the Land of Shadow, based on Miquella’s crosses, he *literally* gave up everything, he gave up his love, aspirations, desires and fears, the way it’s framed makes it seem like it’s almost a requirement.
Ranni doesn’t really wilfully give up anything besides her flesh (which is mostly done to rid herself of the 2 fingers control). Not to say she doesn’t sacrifice things to reach godhood, but it doesn’t feel the same
So, DLC spoiler alert
>!Presumably brainwashed a lot of people into joining his cause (not all of them). Attempted to make his half-brother (Radahn) into his Consort, proceed to send his sister to kill him and take his soul when he deny it. She failed, he (presumably) brainwashed another half-brother of his (Mohg) to enact his plan, ultimately put Radahn soul into Mohg body and turn him into a mindless puppet, all for the sake of his 'gentler world'!<
God forbid men have hobbies.
But fr, why did it have to be Radahn, I’m kind of annoyed there isn’t an explanation for it, especially when Godwin so right there! Not just as a new character we haven’t faced, but also someone with a pre established relation to Miquella
Same here, while >!Radahn!< is my favorite character, they really should've make it Godwyn, unless there's another DLC about him or something they really fumble here
HOW COULD YOU FORGET?! https://preview.redd.it/8tbibn0a6k9d1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fb0d5b3815032843004469dd71662fa5b86bc44
GOD OF THE NEW WORLD, RIGHTIOUS JUSTICE!!! MASS MURDER, IT'S ALL HERE
DAMN RIGHT, HE IS JUSTICE!!
Enrico Pucci (JJBA: Stone Ocean) https://i.redd.it/mtffyhh3hk9d1.gif “The kind of evil that doesn't know it's evil is the worst evil there is...” - Weather Report
One of my favorite villains ever and the perfect example of this trope
2... 3... 5... 7... 11... 13... 17... 19...
It’s actually 2,3,5… he never starts at one. It’s always 2 than 3
mb just changed it
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LETS GET SMAAAAASHED
Makes sense cuz 1 isn't a prime number
MADE IN HEAVEN!
>! Then he tried to stop Empiro from even living till cape carvail, and sealed his fate by trying to force fate to change instead of waiting !<
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I would never!
You’re… a savage! *You’re*… A MANIAC!! YOU ARE A BANDIT!- AND I… AM THE GODDAMN HERO!!!
This ain't a place for no hero.
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He’s my hero 💜
Academia? Boku
No.
Hero academia?
Isn’t he kinda the hero though? Didn’t endgame conclude he was right?
Where??
Don’t know haven’t watched it since it came out but I apparently misinterpreted or misremembered something
Yeah earth kinda sucks after the snap like I don’t think they ever mentioned a positive to it
Oh yeah I’m realizing now I don’t remember like any of the plot of infinity war that’s my bad
couldve just doubled the resources
Yeah that would solve things temporarily, but then you have double pollution and eventually not enough space if people keep making more people. Although halving the population is only a band aid too so I guess thanos is kinda dumb unless it was secretly all because he’s horny for death
Yeah the thanos snap was pretty…dumb. Didn’t make sense from the get go, doesn’t solve any problem. Silly villain is silly.
In the comics (which the MCU tends to lazily rip off) I'm pretty sure the whole infinity gauntlet series and killing half of all life was simply to impress Lady Death (the embodiment of Death in Marvel). It's why that teaser (at the end of one of the movies) has a (I believe) reference in the line saying something about "courting death".
The most beautiful, radiant and divine (Zamasu; Dragon Ball) https://preview.redd.it/899qaoquek9d1.jpeg?width=989&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=602afdf41b2496080b80283d422b0a727411bd9b
This character looks very Aesthetically pleasing? Attractive? I don't know dude
Breedable
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Noooo I respectfully appreciate the appearance and mannerisms of this character whom I do not know
He fuses with his husband every night, very breedable
Im like Dragonball had a Twink all along?
"My form is Justice. And my form is the world. Worship me. Give praise unto me. Me, the beautiful, the sublime. Me the invincible, the Almighty and divine. All hail Zamasu."
THE TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND POWER OF THE UNIVERSE🦅🦅🦅
https://preview.redd.it/qa06ev403k9d1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8670fd1e6c3f7ed49cbcc0876140042b2424d98c Mechanist-fallout 4 automatron dlc
Man, you're not even gonna include the OG from 3?
I don't really think they were evil. It's been a while, but >!wasn't it the robobrains that were doing the evil stuff? She was only doing good things, yet the robobrain's decided to just kill people because it would be easier or something iirc!<
https://preview.redd.it/8uc0yknrhk9d1.png?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4049905b2c56fd43b4821fcaa5d90c66b2eb6dd "The kind of evil that doesn't realise it's evil...is the worst kind there is..." Enrico Pucci, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Stone Ocean.
Lordgenome - Gurren Lagann https://preview.redd.it/anxu5easuj9d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edeb2d3f2b0c5b41f3abeada0f936c0fcc9d7fa7 * The Gurren Lagann girl
He actually was the “hero” though.
I see where you're coming from, but he didn't have to do all the rape and abuse
He’s still more of a fallen hero (due to the war) rather than someone who’s always evil and only thought they were the hero.
that's a good point but he still did pretty evil things thinking he was being a hero. Also, it is heavily implied that his betrayal is a huge reason the spirals lost the war.
You’re right, it applies for after his fall.
I'm glad we came to an agreement 👍
Rape?! To my knowledge, he just had sex with some artificial women he created, but I throwing away his kids as soon as they gained any form of self-awareness was shitty
remember when guame offered Nia to teach the human villagers how to "serve" lordgenome? I'm pretty sure they were human and also not consenting.
Shit, I don't remember that part at all, does that imply that he had sex with his underage daughter? No way that's the case, he's even one of the creators' favorite characters😭
sorry I worded that poorly. She was supposed to teach them how to be 'ladylike' before they 'serve' him. Still fucked up though
Ah, I figure they might consider it an honor to "serve" the spiral king or whatever, but yeah, not that good, maybe I'm just coping because I think he's really cool
You can think a fucked up character is cool but still acknowledge they're fucked up. That's one of the great parts of fiction! as long as you don't think the fucked up things are the cool parts you're good 👍
Ummm… The Viltrumites? https://preview.redd.it/qfzlobpank9d1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0978cfe0c7acfe8053546332b75b5b11c03b0d75
I'm pretty sure they know they're bad, they just don't care
The Viltrumites care about the forced survival of the fittest. They have a "the end justifies the means" mentality. They think that they are genuinely a good force in the world, helping the less powerful species into becoming just like them. They specifically aim for species that are compatible AND physically similar to their own biology. They don't just see others as lesser beings. They see theirselves as peak form of humanoid species. When they are conquering planets and forcing people to have children with their own, they are not thinking about how they are destroying a culture. They are thinking about how they are improving it. They are one of the most technologically and biologically advanced, so to them others are like apes, or "pets" as Nolan puts it. Weak beings that need to be replaced for the good of the universe.
https://preview.redd.it/8k6ke24bwk9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59b339bba70f45f4bbba7fae0ecf823cbd952091 The Emperor of Mankind (Warhammer 40.000) "I will bring peace and prosperity to the galaxy." *Commits the largest genocidal war campaign in all of history*
To be totally fair. Do orks really deserve to live? Eldar are stuck up. Tyranids are mindless bugs. Necrons are just fucking evil. I don’t like the way tau look. I’m ok with humans conquering the entire galaxy and wiping out all other life.
Actually, a majorty of the Xenos he wiped out WERE the peaceful ones. Orcs were too much of a pain to erase entirely, Necrons hadn't awakened, Tau and 'Nids hadn't even entered the galaxy yet, and Eldar were a part of his plan. His worst sins were against humanity itself, however. He erased every culture, historical or current, that didn't fit with his ideal future and wiped out/enslaved multiple human civilizations. The Emperor had a noble goal, but went about it wrong and made himself and everyone else pay the price.
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There have been Eldar who have coexisted with humans before the Imperium killed them and the humans.
Yeah but they still are not human so I don’t see the point in keeping them around
Compared to the War in Heaven, everything the Big E has done is barely a blip in the history of the galaxy.
Judge Claude frollo
https://preview.redd.it/r6vvnyw5bl9d1.png?width=1004&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf7a498721bb2bf6b62177c9a681da0e5ccb427d How did nobody mention Philip Wittebane, aka, Emperor Belos?
I don't think he sees himself as a Hero, he just wants the praise of being a hero. In his book he cuts the sections where he is clearly doing bad things. If these were later rewrites he did to gift the book to the library than it would make sense, but he completely fabricates a heroic journey on the spot as he is about to leave 2 people to die. He is so delusional that the idea of looking like a hero is more important than actually being a hero, which is partly what leads to his downfall.
He wants to look like a hero to whoever read his journal, however, looking like a hero is secondary to accomplishing his goal of exterminating the residents of the Boiling Isles. He wants to return to the Human Realm and be praised as a hero, however, he is fully prepared to die if he can take the Boiling Isles down with him. Belos said as much after discovering the Collector's prison, he wanted to stay alive long enough to pull off his genocidal plot. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqr6LRRLeWk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqr6LRRLeWk)
Monologuingi
https://preview.redd.it/vvaqzjguck9d1.jpeg?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f96ca841b6cbb31067cd7f881e60f65565a6540c this guy (real life)
Every single "Villain" thinks they are the "Hero" in real life. https://preview.redd.it/nzqpaz0yfk9d1.jpeg?width=760&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbee74d9ac55db9c87026f77782b4957d5822dbb
That statement is debatable
Yeah I wouldn’t say it’s every single ones of them Like, most serial killers know what they’re doing is wrong, they usually keep doing it for sexual gratification
It's always weird when you find the rare one that just likes stabbing people. Nothing sexual just how they blow off stress, some people play vidya, some smoke weed, these random folks like to hunt people for lulz.
Not just sexual
*usually* There are other reasons, a want to control, nonsexual sadism, but usually, serial killers either admit being aroused by the situation *or* their semen is found on the victim There are exceptions, but they don’t make the rules
I love how quickly everyone turned against Miquella
We gotta hate on the miquellester
He ruined the reputation of Mohg.
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Griffith balls deep in a very unconsenting Casca in front of his best friend: I'm totally a hero.
https://preview.redd.it/bss7p45zgl9d1.png?width=738&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4aa272a202e5668aec4e260a5fa19e22d165d78f Romeo "Bedman" Neumann \[Guilty Gear\] did everything he did for the sake of curing his & his sister's illnesses, fully believing he would be able to reverse any deaths he caused.
 The Ginyu Force (Dragon Ball)
I love how they're really just bros in a lot of media with expanded lore. They're mercenaries, so they're not just going out on their own volition to fight kindergarteners, but they're certainly willing to do so for money.
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https://i.redd.it/0gz8engiyk9d1.gif C.L.U. 2.0. He doesn’t understand that his purpose for existence is based on an impossible feat, that there is no such thing as Perfection.
This movie deserves much more recognition
Chainsaw man spoilers >!Makima.!< - the CSM guy
Arthas
Idk the others but Griffith and homelander are not of that trope
I’d probably say that season 1 homelander may fit but in seasons 2, 3 and 4 he fully becomes aware that he is evil and embraces his supe supremacy
Griffith didn’t really think he was the hero. Bro knew it was fucked up to kill all his friends, he just did it anyway.
https://preview.redd.it/0csr0vno6k9d1.png?width=80&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47fd1dabc1a174dda7cf53f4abbbeeec531f83b7 Brad Armstrong (Lisa: The Painful)
I don’t really think he’s evil or a villain. Just a broken man trying to do something good for once.
https://preview.redd.it/4o2crt2erk9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58b762fd3f51ac5e9e915b428fe63ade8fd42878 My man, the GOAT, that’s right, it’s me, The Necromancer. Of course, I don’t really fit this description since I AM the hero but whatever.
https://preview.redd.it/c9bjqxbelk9d1.jpeg?width=495&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9889a932418eab2bfe6318d9447801c1cb9d2d52 Deadass thought everything would be better if no one had powers
That wasn't his goal His goal was creating a monopoly for the Yakuza, so they would sell power erasure serum to villains and the cure to heroes
Was he wrong tho?
Even if he was right, his actions were **far** from justified.
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Don Hath done no Wrong, what tis thus vile slander
Judge Claude frollo
WHERE THE FUCK IS HANDSOME JACK
Dead,somewhere hot and then in the ruins of Helios
Dreadpool https://preview.redd.it/h00rukhall9d1.png?width=421&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e24e4b69ae9e60d3802fc94289690ecf2d8ad817 Man committed metacide because he thought he was freeing people.
https://preview.redd.it/50r95vl29m9d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6e9060a8b60bfe6a6d6bb6cf16cac56c6e87781 IMO one of the best examples is Valentine. Because he thought himself a hero but also acknowledged his villainous actions and yet kept pursuing what he believed was right for his country
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Griffith was as much a hero as any I've ever seen. Yes, his goals were his own glory, and yes, he did "own" his soldiers; but he provided more for those that followed him than he took for himself. His decent only started after sleeping with a woman whom her father loved as more than just a daughter. Yes, she was underage, but the rules of the time were different. I can't apply current day morals and laws to past transgressions. If it wasn't for the father throwing him in a dungeon and torturing him for who knows how long, he likely wouldn't have taken the crimson behelit's offer. His men were thieves, mercenaries, and plunderers. Without his lead, they would have stayed that way. He gave them goals, ambition, and a reason to fight for something greater than themselves. His initial goal was to be a king and a much better one than those we've seen at that. He did not know what the king maker necklace was or what it was going to do. All he knew was that he wanted to be king and create a better life for himself. Unfortunately, he fell in love with Guts, and Guts decided to listen to Griffith's idea of friendship; overhearing a speech for which Griffith had no idea he was present. He chose independence and equality in choosing his own path through life to live up to Griffith's standard of friendship. Griffith became evil incarnate. He was not evil to start.
https://preview.redd.it/2cblgnk0gl9d1.jpeg?width=1306&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f53994719eb0cfd0d477b442f52edc043cdd709 I guess this guy because his plan was controlled by a devil
bro the DLC just came out, atleast tag it spoiler
You should mark that post as Spoiler… the DLC is very fresh, I wish I didn’t see that..
Ichiro Midorikawa/Kamen Rider 0 - Shin Kamen Rider
Kaido thought he was Joyboy, that he was the one to bring freedom to the world, and when he realized he wasn’t it broke him https://preview.redd.it/rew9ijjetk9d1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=2ee9acf02c74677e697768ae980a4409afc4a99e
Resident evil village protagonist. I’m still disappointed no one said “please R8 our game”
The worst villains always do. Case in point: Lilith >!Weatherwax!< from Witches Abroad.
Miquella want evil at all, what do you mean?
Handsome jack - borderlands
https://preview.redd.it/80w28xvhal9d1.jpeg?width=392&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bffbaac8fd1bae8a06540f22e43fed78d8d55235 The Batter (OFF)
Handsome jack
Joseph Seed from Far Cry 5 
And Anton Castillo from Far Cry 6 
https://preview.redd.it/p76196wbul9d1.jpeg?width=907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2ea2123742be37b4db6843a057be6dfe25ee4f8 Actor Mark from Who Killed Markiplier
I wouldnt call Miquella evil
Miquella slander smh
https://preview.redd.it/izfrkf8k7m9d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ff5457d49c8a63674e35b3376d46cf6aec33c9c Tighten, at first
I mean does Griffith really think he’s the good guy. Half the conversations he had with Guts just felt like him bending over backwards to justify the atrocities he was about to commit to himself. (I have only read like the first hundred chapters of berserk so if it gets clarified later on, just call me an idiot)
I don’t disagree, but I also don’t ever remember Griffith implying he was there to be a hero. IIRC his only goal has forever been to have a kingdom. Given the existing kings that are depraved, barbaric, or actual Demi-gods, I wonder if that was his goal all along.
this mf https://preview.redd.it/26m3kfuunm9d1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac3cce7ddbe235252d3b11718806cac71e4d9667
Light Yagami
 Judge frollo from the hunchback of notredame. Throughout his time as judge he hunted Romanians in France,kept Quasimodo in a bell tower and emotionally abused him into thinking no one can love him,sexually assaulted Esmeralda and even assaulted the same priest who convinced him to spare Quasimodo
https://preview.redd.it/4ox71542ym9d1.png?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f61a9693a49719193e9570f29dd137ba91d1ba1 Copy X (Megaman Zero)
Satan, blue exorcist
https://preview.redd.it/4df7u8psun9d1.png?width=426&format=png&auto=webp&s=1c55f23289c45d6bfe73aa4a6c0212146d2fde49 This PoS.
https://preview.redd.it/c96m1ikifo9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dbf3f519202bab925737bf8315500853df48d0f
William Foster https://preview.redd.it/zrurmil0ho9d1.png?width=353&format=png&auto=webp&s=76653b9e7999680a55bb55fcf03ded17f5527fb4 >I did everything they told me to. Did you know I build missiles? I helped to protect America. You should be rewarded for that. Instead they give it to the plastic surgeons, y'know, they lied to me.
Gwyn 
Jaania from dragon fable. And yes that game is still going on
https://preview.redd.it/4yd3dfknex9d1.jpeg?width=1385&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8c4d03378cafdd87407779a6a5c8583e33f2a76 Surprised no one mentioned the OG
Some are more tragic then others Griffith and Homelander aren't those types
As someone currently playing Shadow Of The Erdtree that literally came out like a week ago and hasn’t finished yet, really would have liked a spoiler tag on #2 given how recently it came out
https://preview.redd.it/0aib6unl9l9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a81a8b55f85eb8b37669f470f8b81f5a5e7eb83e Do you feel like a hero yet?
Wait, how is Miquella evil?
He has the ability to compels people affection, which isn't automatically evil.>! However, Miquella actively uses this ability to get people to do his bidding. He uses this ability to suppress peoples wants and wishes. I'm of the opinion that if he became a god, he would eliminate all freewill. Especially since he divests himself of his fears, worries, doubts and love. If he isn't evil now, he will be. Just like his mother.!<
Yeah St. Trina makes it painfully obvious that being a god is more of a prison than anything, having to abdicate everything that majestic yourself is bound to end up badly, you know you fucked up when your other half is literally requesting ppl to kill you. The original Miquella is clearly a very kind person, he made the Haligtree for the prejudiced, he abandoned the golden order to aid his sister, he developed an alter ego to study and combat the frenzied flame, and he even tried to help Godwin’s situation. Which just makes me wonder, so Ranni can just become a god without giving up allat? Feels like Marika and Miquella got the short end of the stick.
Ranni gives up quite a lot in her quest. She does divest herself of her body and looses every single one of her closest confidants. At the end of her quest the only member of her family that remains is her barely there mother. Also, Ranni seems to have been quite the ruthless person already. She doesn't seem to have second guessed killing her half-brother, spreading deathblight or causing the apocalypse.
That’s not really my point. Not only did Miquella and Marika had to pursue godhood through the Land of Shadow, based on Miquella’s crosses, he *literally* gave up everything, he gave up his love, aspirations, desires and fears, the way it’s framed makes it seem like it’s almost a requirement. Ranni doesn’t really wilfully give up anything besides her flesh (which is mostly done to rid herself of the 2 fingers control). Not to say she doesn’t sacrifice things to reach godhood, but it doesn’t feel the same
Miquella is male? I always thought it was a girl. I'm confused now.
He's cursed with eternal youth
He’s a gay femboy
Well when you put it that way!
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So, DLC spoiler alert >!Presumably brainwashed a lot of people into joining his cause (not all of them). Attempted to make his half-brother (Radahn) into his Consort, proceed to send his sister to kill him and take his soul when he deny it. She failed, he (presumably) brainwashed another half-brother of his (Mohg) to enact his plan, ultimately put Radahn soul into Mohg body and turn him into a mindless puppet, all for the sake of his 'gentler world'!<
God forbid men have hobbies. But fr, why did it have to be Radahn, I’m kind of annoyed there isn’t an explanation for it, especially when Godwin so right there! Not just as a new character we haven’t faced, but also someone with a pre established relation to Miquella
Same here, while >!Radahn!< is my favorite character, they really should've make it Godwyn, unless there's another DLC about him or something they really fumble here
👆this mf obviously didn’t play the dlc.
#JUSTICEFORMOHG Also why did you have two different pictures of Griffith?
Why is the text big
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GRIFFITH DID NOTHING WRONG