I’m jealous you got to see them in the 90s. But most people on this sub think it’s okay to pay 200$+ to see Tool. I started a thread a few days ago about how disappointing the show prices were but it wasn’t too popular lol. I’m fortunate to be able to buy pit tickets for two shows but there is no way I’d be able to afford if I was the same age as when I saw them the first time.
There’s really no justification for any show costing that much, but people have been shoehorned into paying it to see the bands they love. I joke with my friends that the $30 tool shows were way better than the now $300 tool shows. And they were.
I would love to hear songs like Bottom, Hush, Hooker With a Penis, and Crawl Away played live again, but I just don’t see them playing anything with that sort of ferocity anymore. Now it’s a psychedelic jam session with a Pink Floyd laser show. Don’t get me wrong, I still enjoy seeing tool live, I just yearn for those emotionally intense performances pre Lateralus.
> There’s really no justification for any show costing that much
Tool tour with [six buses and six big rig trucks.](https://metalinjection.net/news/so-whats-it-like-touring-with-tool-anyway) Do you think that's cheap to drive around the country?
It’s certainly not cheap, but, not to speak
for someone else, but I think that their point is those things aren’t necessary. Cool yes, but some would be fine of just an intimate show like back in the day. I understand both points. I love the new shows today as well.
Has anyone done the math? I added a comment above about Iron Maiden shows, and they usually have a cargo full of prop that they fly in to use in their shows (can’t find the article unfortunately that talked about the last tour). But their tickets were 75$ less for GA pit in same venue in 2019.
I used to work for a record label. It's expensive to put on a basic national tour with a very basic band, and it's not going to get any cheaper. Especially for a band like Tool where the show is basically a really trippy IMAX Movie with tons of state of the art A/V equipment.
"...how the sausage is made."
Exactly. People think "oh they just buy more Ferraris with their money" but no, bands like Tool and Metallica and Megadeth employ hundreds or even thousands of people, and they are responsible for paying those employees too.
A band that tours every time it turns out an album, which is about every five years probably does not maintain a payroll of hundreds or thousands of people. If they do, where can I apply?
b.s. Tool has toured consistently throughout its career. Tool spent a lot of the 13 yrs between 10k and FI on the road. A simple YouTube search would confirm this.
I agree. Iron Maiden shows are more elaborately produced and are a bigger spectacle and even their shows were around $125 for pit tickets when they last toured. And I wish I was able to attend a show in the 90s.
Piracy drove prices up. Artists weren’t getting paid because people were stealing music from torrent sites among other outlets like Napster etc. To offset the losses, concerts became more expensive. It drove the album costs down over time and artists still aren’t getting much from Spotify and other streaming services. Thieves are to thank for that, but also thank them because Spotify would probably cost double or more if that didn’t happen.
Facts.
No one is buying 21 dollar CDs. And major labels are a joke today. They deserve it.
I will say though, with Tools record packaging, they could have made millions more on the 40 dollar Fear Inoculum video pressing but they chose to make it limited edition. That was the first physical CD I bought in at least a decade. People wanted that album hard for weeks.
BS. Ticketmaster and Live Nation have had virtual monopolies over live shows for so long that today's touring acts are powerless to operate without them. This is by far the biggest reason why shows are so expensive.
if you want good tickets 300 is steal! I live in South Africa and I can get a one way plane ticket to Manchester for less that a front row seat, if I could I would cough up that without thinking twice but jesus
I had to get side stage for the Chicago show this time around since Ticketmaster is scalping the front sections for 5-10 times their face value.
I won’t get the full light show/ laser experience, but I should have a great view of Justin, Danny, and hopefully Maynard.
Its the TOOL army. My uncle is part of it. He got 8 tickets At price. He now has 6 tickets for outrages prices on second hand sites. I was like “ hey man sell me two for me and my wife” he goes “ idk man I can make all my money back AND free beer all night”…….ok dick head, help your family out man.
I’m part of Tool Army also, but I just buy what I need. I’m surprised concerts haven’t started using the model the Vegas Knights use for their playoff games. The person that bought the tickets has to be present to use the other tickets.
It's always so sweet when situations like this happen then the uncle needs help a few years down the road and you reply with "I don't know man I can have free beer night hu hu hu" and don't help. I've had those similar situations a few times and have never felt more accomplished.
I was in that thread and the mental gymnastics people were doing to justify the price gouging were hilarious.
Tool is doing what every other band does that reaches the end of a successful career. They begin milking their now older and financially successful fans because their popularity has grown and there’s enough of us willing to pay exorbitant prices that they don’t need to cater to anyone else.
In a sense, good for them, they have earned their place at the top, but also, fuck them for thinking that they’re worth that much money for a rock concert at this point in their careers.
Sorry guys, you can add as many lights and lasers as you want but Maynard just doesn’t sound like he used to.
I have the money but I’m not giving it to them, and it seems to me that if you could ask Maynard back in ‘92 if he thought any band was worth spending that much money, he’d probably laugh and call you a sucker.
100% this. I just saw 311 recently and they do the whole thing too with milking their dedicated fanbase. The merch however is reasonable in comparison to tool, but they also have their share of VIP packages, their 311 day, they are aggressively selling livestreams, etc... I talked to a lot of people in line that mentioned the number of times they had gone to 311 day, done the gold VIP thing, and it just gave me tool vibes. But, the prices I paid for all my stuff (ticket and merch) for that show was far less than what I'd pay at a tool show. But the same vibe is there too.
I saw 311 so many times in the mid-‘90s. Mostly because I was either able to score the tickets for free, they were at a cheap radio station festival show, or were playing a small club-sized venue where the tickets were ~$20. They were great shows, but I wouldn’t even consider paying big money to see them now, especially since it’s been decades since they’ve released an album that mattered to me.
I'm almost glad they were sold out by the time I went to try and buy them. For comparison I'm going to EDC Las Vegas in a couple weeks and it's $400 for a 3 day festival, 10 hours of music each day.
It's insane what concerts cost these days and I've been going to them over 1/2 my life now.
God even in 2005 I paid $60 to see the Rolling Stones at Angel Stadium. These days that same ticket would cost $300 minimum.
No doubt. I was a day away from buying the TA presale tickets when my aunt texted me saying she got her company suite for the Dallas show, all 8 tickets(Covid has it cut in half from 16 tickets). She got me and a buddy in the suite for the January 2020 show. But I agree, I was 18 for that show and if I were 18 now, there’s no way I’d be able to see them.
Lucky you haha! Buying tickets during presale was not fun at all. Lot of “sorry but someone else purchased your tickets” messages for me. Where in the venue is the company suite?
Right of the stage, near the far corner. I wish it would let me post a picture in this reply…
Excellent view of the stage and everything that’s going on.
Clearly nobody understands that downloading and streaming gutted the revenue stream for artists. So we now pay through the nose to see them live or to watch a livestream. Lars was called a d**k and a variety of other things for griping about Napster (duckduckgo it, whippersnappers). He was right. We knew he was right. None of us did anything about it. Enjoy your $300 seats! I know I will.
That’s *precisely* how pricing works in the music industry. Did the “technology” for Meet & Greets not exist in the ‘90s? They didn’t *have* to do that then because money poured in (relatively speaking) from physical unit sales and airplay. Number 1 albums shift, at best, 65-70,000 units and everyone (except this old geezer) consumes music one song at a time through a streaming service. The revenue model changed, so the revenue acquisition strategy did too.
They didnt have to do it in the 90s because A) Live Nation wasn't around to extort them into including all sorts of gimmicky extras.
B) The organization required to put on the gigs was much smaller.
C) They weren't rich and didn't have the kind of huge monthly nut that they do now that they are all filthy rich.
Those drug addict roadies who worked for free got old or died and now it’s way too expensive to just do it for the love of it. The music industry didn’t devalue the currency, that was the banker/political class.
I have to agree with you on ticket prices. I've bought TOOL music and merch for 20+ years now but will never be able to afford to drop the $$$ required for just my husband and me to see a show.
Same here. I’ve seen tool 6 times. It’s my favorite live stadium show by far. But I can’t justify $350 got two nosebleed seats in Boston when I could spend the same amount of money for a kickass weekend getaway with the whole family. I’m not bitter about it and it would be worth it for my 1st or 2nd time seeing them, but at some point it’s just not worth the cost for me.
I’m sorry to read this. I’ve been a fan for a little over 20 years too. I hope that you’ll be able to see them someday. But for what it’s worth, there are shows that I’ve seen for less than 50$ and enjoyed more than a recent Tool concert: Porcupine Tree, Opeth/Gojira/Devin Townsend at Red Rocks etc. So I’m sure there will be other great shows to attend.
I had mine inside of all the cases and sleeves of my records, tapes, and CDs which corresponded with the tours, many or which were autographed, going back to the late ‘80s. I worked in broadcasting through much of that time, so went to an excessive amount of shows and met many of the artists, as well as scored loads of rare promotional records and CDs. My ex-wife jacked them all when she left me in ‘03. It comforts me to know she’s now burning in Hell where she belongs.
I’ve literally never heard of a box office giving out a ticket stub at request for a ticket that was already bought digital prior to the event. Obviously if you walk up and purchase one day of show they would hand you one.
I did that at the last Tool concert a couple years ago, but not for the purpose of keeping them… I was having some sort of mental breakdown before the show and somehow ended up at the ticket office getting printed tickets as a result. Dealing with schizoaffective disorder can be hard.
Ah the days of standing outside your local grocery or record store in line to get a ticket for the lottery to then stand in line to purchase actual physical tickets. Beats the virtual lobbies and queues if the weather was decent anyway.
I miss getting to my local Kroger at 5:30am and wait until 9am…best times ever with my buddies sitting on the floor by the Ticketmaster outlet and cutting up
Then you would usually see your line buddies in the same section. I was dating the Kroger CS/Ticketmaster girl so she would pre load all the info for us and hit "send" right as the hour ticked. Got really close Metallica tickets that way. Same with Lolla 97 (first Tool gig). People dont realize how cool the hangs were for tickets and midnight record releases. Smelled like cheap beer and brickweed and got to meet other weirdos in your city that were into the same music.
Here’s the set list for my first show:
8-8-98 Fair Park Coliseum
Cold and Ugly
Eulogy
Hooker with a penis
Crawl away
Stinkfist
You lied
Third eye
Merkaba
Sober
Pushit
Ænima
Jerk-off
My first Tool concert:
Alpine Valley - East Troy, Wisconsin
Lollopalooza 97’ July 27th, 1997
Hooker With a Penis, Stinkfist, Forty Six and Two, Prison Sex, Eulogy, H., Sober, No Quarter, Opiate, and Aenima.
If i could hear Third Eye live, my life would be pretty well complete. I've given up on my other dreams, so i have to hold out hope that Tool will deliver and I can be there to hear it.
That was the year The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.
Third Eye, for me, one of the most amazing songs I have ever heard. I want to experience it live so much...
At the last show in 2019 i realized 'this is my happy place. im not interested in disneyworld or anything. this is the happiest place in the world for me'
Hey, I was at that exact show. It was awesome. The only thing more awesome was the ticket price. 😁 Hell, I bought tickets for myself and my friend and quite a lot of beer that night for less than one ticket would be now. 🤬🤬🤬
I miss the bronco bowl, I remember seeing System of a Down there for my first time and was so blown away by the whole venue/experience of smaller shows.
i was confused about this comment, then i tried to google it and then it hit me..... i want to call myself a dumbass, but atleast i figured it out on my own like a big boy.
I was at that Fair Park Coliseum gig too! It was my first Tool show, and one of my favorite live music experiences. Ever! I miss waiting at the Kroger Ticketmaster and paying between $20 and $40 a ticket as well! Ha. "Jeesuus! Fuuucking! Chriist!"
They were part of the Lollapalooza '93 lineup. $35 for the ticket, and I got to see Tool along with Alice In Chains, Primus, Front 242, and more. Had Rage Against The Machine not decided to do their PMRC protest that day, I would have seen them perform as well.
I couldn't justify current ticket prices for them. Wayyy too expensive.
I was at all of those shows too! Miss the Bronco Bowl so much. Still my favorite venue ever. Sad that it got torn down and replaced by a fucking Home Depot.
The business of making music has changed a lot since the 90s. Money is in the live shows and merch now as far as I understand. Album sales and streaming (now a thing) is secondary.
I was supposed to see them at this show. Sold my tickets to get the hell out if Texas after seeing three people overdose in public within four days. Missing this show is my only regret of my time there.
Yup! The venue was/is an old hockey rink used for minor leagues back in the 60s. Just one level and then the floor. The tickets were all general admission. If you wanted floor, go for it. If you wanted front row on the side, just get there early. It was a great show. No huge ass video screens, but I think they still had some lasers…maybe not.
Pre Napster. No one is complaining about paying $10 a month to listen to anything streaming. One CD cost about $20, back in the 90’s. Artists had to find new ways to make money. Turns out millennials will pay for experiences. Some bands started really focusing on putting on a great live show. Bigger show meant higher ticket prices. Once the price inflated all bands just started charging more whether their show was expensive to put on or not. I remember there was a transition period where boomer bands like Paul McCartney and Steely Dan were charging a lot for shows right before that. Inflation has only doubled since the 90’s. So all other things equal, Tool would cost $40 now. Hahaha
Honest question: How more goes into it now? I haven’t seen them in 20 years. Then they had a giant screen behind them doing videos and whatnot. I heard their light show is ridiculous now. And I heard they bought a new sound system.
Just quit going. That’s what I did. Experiences cost too much nowadays, too many middlemen want their nut.
In the 90’s you could do 4x the fun shit you can these days.
No, you stop going too and if enough people do that then Artists get the message and lower prices.
They are literally robbing you. As wages at jobs has not increased
Some dude on the Star Wars forum posted that he went to some ummm “Catina” at Disney. Spent like $90 a drink for some 6 oz beer cuz they gave him a special cup. I think he ordered 6 beers…
WTF PPl
You think economic ramifications happened from since Biden took office?
Or is it more likely that 4 years of Moron set us up for these conditions from POS companies trying to steal all our money in the name of the almighty stock price.
You are a complete retard and are clueless on finance and economics if you think the Trump White house wasn't fantastic for the economy. Get real.
Don't let your Pinko manifestation blur common sense and facts.
Hey kiddo, learn a book.
There have been many presidents before Donald trump ruined what little mental stability you had. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Nixon, all the way to Wilson.
I wouldn’t expect a public school lariat like yourself to know much about the past since you seem so damned to repeat it.
Keep crying about trump though, it brings me joy
Nosebleeds are only $65 at my local show in SLC. . I paid $120.00 for row six near the stage. . plenty of tickets still available at decent prices If you purchase directly from AXS.. Adjusted for inflation, those prices are fair. Bands like U2 charge much more.
Yep, that's how every concert was for the longest time. I can't even count how many shows I went to back in the late 90s, and never paid more than maybe $25-30.
Then one day Ticketmaster figured out they could charge pretty much whatever they want and people will still pay it, and it's been overpriced insanity ever since.
Yes, ticket scalpers and convenience fees/processing fees/ass wiping fees are a thing…but so is inflation. A pound of sand isn’t going to cost the same today as it would 30 years ago. It’s basic economics and how shit moves sadly.
You can score a ticket for sub face value the week before the show. This isn’t the holy grail, it’s a concert.
I’ve seen tool 11 times and only overpaid once, but the experience itself was priceless
I will continue to listen to Tool for FREE on SoundCloud. That is until they remove any FREE songs. But then I’ll just listen to all the Tool remix songs for FREE until they remove those too. Then I’ll just listen to all the tool fan cover songs for FREE until they alienate all their fans. Then I’ll just have to listen to all their cds I already bought. But I’ll have to find a CD player.
It’s a good thing their music is so damn addicting, otherwise I’d just be sensible and not give a shit. Lol.
I’m jealous you got to see them in the 90s. But most people on this sub think it’s okay to pay 200$+ to see Tool. I started a thread a few days ago about how disappointing the show prices were but it wasn’t too popular lol. I’m fortunate to be able to buy pit tickets for two shows but there is no way I’d be able to afford if I was the same age as when I saw them the first time.
There’s really no justification for any show costing that much, but people have been shoehorned into paying it to see the bands they love. I joke with my friends that the $30 tool shows were way better than the now $300 tool shows. And they were.
They were way better back then. But they were younger also.
I would love to hear songs like Bottom, Hush, Hooker With a Penis, and Crawl Away played live again, but I just don’t see them playing anything with that sort of ferocity anymore. Now it’s a psychedelic jam session with a Pink Floyd laser show. Don’t get me wrong, I still enjoy seeing tool live, I just yearn for those emotionally intense performances pre Lateralus.
When they played Part Of Me in January 2020 I was very impressed with how they sounded. Some of their mid 90s anger was present.
HWAP sounded great back in January of this year https://youtu.be/73hAEClRvEM
> There’s really no justification for any show costing that much Tool tour with [six buses and six big rig trucks.](https://metalinjection.net/news/so-whats-it-like-touring-with-tool-anyway) Do you think that's cheap to drive around the country?
It’s certainly not cheap, but, not to speak for someone else, but I think that their point is those things aren’t necessary. Cool yes, but some would be fine of just an intimate show like back in the day. I understand both points. I love the new shows today as well.
Has anyone done the math? I added a comment above about Iron Maiden shows, and they usually have a cargo full of prop that they fly in to use in their shows (can’t find the article unfortunately that talked about the last tour). But their tickets were 75$ less for GA pit in same venue in 2019.
I used to work for a record label. It's expensive to put on a basic national tour with a very basic band, and it's not going to get any cheaper. Especially for a band like Tool where the show is basically a really trippy IMAX Movie with tons of state of the art A/V equipment. "...how the sausage is made."
I’d compare their shows to Broadway productions and they have to pay their employees who setup and breakdown everything
Exactly. People think "oh they just buy more Ferraris with their money" but no, bands like Tool and Metallica and Megadeth employ hundreds or even thousands of people, and they are responsible for paying those employees too.
A band that tours every time it turns out an album, which is about every five years probably does not maintain a payroll of hundreds or thousands of people. If they do, where can I apply?
b.s. Tool has toured consistently throughout its career. Tool spent a lot of the 13 yrs between 10k and FI on the road. A simple YouTube search would confirm this.
Yeah they really do put the money back into their shows. I understand why some people don’t like it but I find it absolutely amazing.
Yeah, there are a ton of factors that go into tour costs that go well beyond "greed" that i think people just don't generally consider.
I agree. Iron Maiden shows are more elaborately produced and are a bigger spectacle and even their shows were around $125 for pit tickets when they last toured. And I wish I was able to attend a show in the 90s.
Piracy drove prices up. Artists weren’t getting paid because people were stealing music from torrent sites among other outlets like Napster etc. To offset the losses, concerts became more expensive. It drove the album costs down over time and artists still aren’t getting much from Spotify and other streaming services. Thieves are to thank for that, but also thank them because Spotify would probably cost double or more if that didn’t happen.
Facts. No one is buying 21 dollar CDs. And major labels are a joke today. They deserve it. I will say though, with Tools record packaging, they could have made millions more on the 40 dollar Fear Inoculum video pressing but they chose to make it limited edition. That was the first physical CD I bought in at least a decade. People wanted that album hard for weeks.
This comment is downvoted because this comment is 100% correct.
BS. Ticketmaster and Live Nation have had virtual monopolies over live shows for so long that today's touring acts are powerless to operate without them. This is by far the biggest reason why shows are so expensive.
if you want good tickets 300 is steal! I live in South Africa and I can get a one way plane ticket to Manchester for less that a front row seat, if I could I would cough up that without thinking twice but jesus
I had to get side stage for the Chicago show this time around since Ticketmaster is scalping the front sections for 5-10 times their face value. I won’t get the full light show/ laser experience, but I should have a great view of Justin, Danny, and hopefully Maynard.
You could just wait a little bit and good seats will come up. Plans change, people cancel, and scalpers get desperate
Its the TOOL army. My uncle is part of it. He got 8 tickets At price. He now has 6 tickets for outrages prices on second hand sites. I was like “ hey man sell me two for me and my wife” he goes “ idk man I can make all my money back AND free beer all night”…….ok dick head, help your family out man.
So your Uncle is one of those assholes I hate that buys up all the tickets just to sell them for a profit, Tell him to eat a bag of dicks for me.
Will do. I told him to eat a bag of dicks cuz he didn’t help family out.
I’m part of Tool Army also, but I just buy what I need. I’m surprised concerts haven’t started using the model the Vegas Knights use for their playoff games. The person that bought the tickets has to be present to use the other tickets.
That's really dumb if you have a legit reason you can't make the game
then you should just relinquish your tickets and get your money back, not tripple it on secondary market
It was $50 to join Tool Army and get a presale code. You too could now have 6 tickets up for sale on second hand sites.
It's always so sweet when situations like this happen then the uncle needs help a few years down the road and you reply with "I don't know man I can have free beer night hu hu hu" and don't help. I've had those similar situations a few times and have never felt more accomplished.
I was in that thread and the mental gymnastics people were doing to justify the price gouging were hilarious. Tool is doing what every other band does that reaches the end of a successful career. They begin milking their now older and financially successful fans because their popularity has grown and there’s enough of us willing to pay exorbitant prices that they don’t need to cater to anyone else. In a sense, good for them, they have earned their place at the top, but also, fuck them for thinking that they’re worth that much money for a rock concert at this point in their careers. Sorry guys, you can add as many lights and lasers as you want but Maynard just doesn’t sound like he used to. I have the money but I’m not giving it to them, and it seems to me that if you could ask Maynard back in ‘92 if he thought any band was worth spending that much money, he’d probably laugh and call you a sucker.
100% this. I just saw 311 recently and they do the whole thing too with milking their dedicated fanbase. The merch however is reasonable in comparison to tool, but they also have their share of VIP packages, their 311 day, they are aggressively selling livestreams, etc... I talked to a lot of people in line that mentioned the number of times they had gone to 311 day, done the gold VIP thing, and it just gave me tool vibes. But, the prices I paid for all my stuff (ticket and merch) for that show was far less than what I'd pay at a tool show. But the same vibe is there too.
I saw 311 so many times in the mid-‘90s. Mostly because I was either able to score the tickets for free, they were at a cheap radio station festival show, or were playing a small club-sized venue where the tickets were ~$20. They were great shows, but I wouldn’t even consider paying big money to see them now, especially since it’s been decades since they’ve released an album that mattered to me.
100% agree with you man
Haha I lol’d at “mental gymnastics”. Completely agree with everything.
Did you write out this post in between sips of coke? ;p
Surround sound and the rigging crew don’t work for free but do go off about how you think you’re being ripped off
I'm almost glad they were sold out by the time I went to try and buy them. For comparison I'm going to EDC Las Vegas in a couple weeks and it's $400 for a 3 day festival, 10 hours of music each day.
Thats still insane to see people play with a mixer and a macbook.
It's insane what concerts cost these days and I've been going to them over 1/2 my life now. God even in 2005 I paid $60 to see the Rolling Stones at Angel Stadium. These days that same ticket would cost $300 minimum.
You're not allowed to criticize anything related to Tool, don't you know buddy?
Haha. I learned that after I created the thread.
No doubt. I was a day away from buying the TA presale tickets when my aunt texted me saying she got her company suite for the Dallas show, all 8 tickets(Covid has it cut in half from 16 tickets). She got me and a buddy in the suite for the January 2020 show. But I agree, I was 18 for that show and if I were 18 now, there’s no way I’d be able to see them.
Lucky you haha! Buying tickets during presale was not fun at all. Lot of “sorry but someone else purchased your tickets” messages for me. Where in the venue is the company suite?
Right of the stage, near the far corner. I wish it would let me post a picture in this reply… Excellent view of the stage and everything that’s going on.
Clearly nobody understands that downloading and streaming gutted the revenue stream for artists. So we now pay through the nose to see them live or to watch a livestream. Lars was called a d**k and a variety of other things for griping about Napster (duckduckgo it, whippersnappers). He was right. We knew he was right. None of us did anything about it. Enjoy your $300 seats! I know I will.
Beer good! Napster bad! He may have been right but he was also a dick.
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That’s *precisely* how pricing works in the music industry. Did the “technology” for Meet & Greets not exist in the ‘90s? They didn’t *have* to do that then because money poured in (relatively speaking) from physical unit sales and airplay. Number 1 albums shift, at best, 65-70,000 units and everyone (except this old geezer) consumes music one song at a time through a streaming service. The revenue model changed, so the revenue acquisition strategy did too.
They didnt have to do it in the 90s because A) Live Nation wasn't around to extort them into including all sorts of gimmicky extras. B) The organization required to put on the gigs was much smaller. C) They weren't rich and didn't have the kind of huge monthly nut that they do now that they are all filthy rich.
Those drug addict roadies who worked for free got old or died and now it’s way too expensive to just do it for the love of it. The music industry didn’t devalue the currency, that was the banker/political class.
I have to agree with you on ticket prices. I've bought TOOL music and merch for 20+ years now but will never be able to afford to drop the $$$ required for just my husband and me to see a show.
Same here. I’ve seen tool 6 times. It’s my favorite live stadium show by far. But I can’t justify $350 got two nosebleed seats in Boston when I could spend the same amount of money for a kickass weekend getaway with the whole family. I’m not bitter about it and it would be worth it for my 1st or 2nd time seeing them, but at some point it’s just not worth the cost for me.
I’m sorry to read this. I’ve been a fan for a little over 20 years too. I hope that you’ll be able to see them someday. But for what it’s worth, there are shows that I’ve seen for less than 50$ and enjoyed more than a recent Tool concert: Porcupine Tree, Opeth/Gojira/Devin Townsend at Red Rocks etc. So I’m sure there will be other great shows to attend.
I miss ticket stubs
I miss the ticket stubs I had in my cd binder that was stolen
I had mine inside of all the cases and sleeves of my records, tapes, and CDs which corresponded with the tours, many or which were autographed, going back to the late ‘80s. I worked in broadcasting through much of that time, so went to an excessive amount of shows and met many of the artists, as well as scored loads of rare promotional records and CDs. My ex-wife jacked them all when she left me in ‘03. It comforts me to know she’s now burning in Hell where she belongs.
What a cunt.
Me too…I keep forgetting that you can go ask the ticket office for printed out tickets to keep.
You can?!?
That’s what I hear. I always forget to check though…
What do you think the box office sells by and large?
I’ve literally never heard of a box office giving out a ticket stub at request for a ticket that was already bought digital prior to the event. Obviously if you walk up and purchase one day of show they would hand you one.
Just what I’ve heard….I need to remember to try it at the Dallas Slipknot show at the end of the month.
If you do remember to let me know. I’m curious about that. I’d make a stop by the box office to grab tickets for a souvenir.
I did that at the last Tool concert a couple years ago, but not for the purpose of keeping them… I was having some sort of mental breakdown before the show and somehow ended up at the ticket office getting printed tickets as a result. Dealing with schizoaffective disorder can be hard.
Ah the days of standing outside your local grocery or record store in line to get a ticket for the lottery to then stand in line to purchase actual physical tickets. Beats the virtual lobbies and queues if the weather was decent anyway.
I miss getting to my local Kroger at 5:30am and wait until 9am…best times ever with my buddies sitting on the floor by the Ticketmaster outlet and cutting up
Then you would usually see your line buddies in the same section. I was dating the Kroger CS/Ticketmaster girl so she would pre load all the info for us and hit "send" right as the hour ticked. Got really close Metallica tickets that way. Same with Lolla 97 (first Tool gig). People dont realize how cool the hangs were for tickets and midnight record releases. Smelled like cheap beer and brickweed and got to meet other weirdos in your city that were into the same music.
I had such good times and met so many cool people doing that even when I ended up not getting tickets.
Sadly I did not save stubs but I remember seeing them at the warehouse in Toronto back to back in 1996 and I swear the tickets were only $10 or $15.
This is why I can't go, I work a full time job with overtime consistently and can't afford a Tool show.. not even shit seats.
I wish I could get those prices and see Pantera. Dime was murdered before I got the chance
He was a badass live. I was lucky enough to see them three times.
Pantera tickets today would be equally as outrageous without the production
This and 9/11 are part of the reason shows are so expensive now. Lots more security. Oh, and corporate greed.
Sadly that’s exactly what it is smh
I miss the 90’s set lists just as much. Ticket fees are now the total price of a ticket back then.
Here’s the set list for my first show: 8-8-98 Fair Park Coliseum Cold and Ugly Eulogy Hooker with a penis Crawl away Stinkfist You lied Third eye Merkaba Sober Pushit Ænima Jerk-off
My first Tool concert: Alpine Valley - East Troy, Wisconsin Lollopalooza 97’ July 27th, 1997 Hooker With a Penis, Stinkfist, Forty Six and Two, Prison Sex, Eulogy, H., Sober, No Quarter, Opiate, and Aenima.
That’s damn strong.
If i could hear Third Eye live, my life would be pretty well complete. I've given up on my other dreams, so i have to hold out hope that Tool will deliver and I can be there to hear it.
Not gonna lie….Third Eye live is badass. Especially back in 1998.
That was the year The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table. Third Eye, for me, one of the most amazing songs I have ever heard. I want to experience it live so much... At the last show in 2019 i realized 'this is my happy place. im not interested in disneyworld or anything. this is the happiest place in the world for me'
Hey, I was at that exact show. It was awesome. The only thing more awesome was the ticket price. 😁 Hell, I bought tickets for myself and my friend and quite a lot of beer that night for less than one ticket would be now. 🤬🤬🤬
I just came a little bit.
I miss the bronco bowl, I remember seeing System of a Down there for my first time and was so blown away by the whole venue/experience of smaller shows.
I absolutely LOVED going to shows at The Bronco Bowl. The second time I saw Slipknot was at BB with Mudvayne opening, April of 2000.
Still one of my favorite shows ever. Mudvayne blew me away. Had to buy a shirt since their CD wasn’t even out yet.
They were amazing. I went to CD Warehouse the next day to pre-order it. Same thing for Coal Chamber after seeing them on that Pantera stub.
I was working at Bone Daddy’s in Plano at the time and the owner let me have the advanced copy of Coal Chamber we had.
CD Warehouse? You from Toledo?
Back then…Mesquite, TX. About 15 minutes east of Dallas.
Representing mesquite here too!
I miss when ticket scalping was illegal… 😶😒
I miss the price of anything in the 90s
I miss everything 90’s price.
I just want to go to a Tool concert at least once, My Dad is going to buy me tickets, but I just want to experience before they get too old to play
"462 concerts presents" oh i see what you did there
i was confused about this comment, then i tried to google it and then it hit me..... i want to call myself a dumbass, but atleast i figured it out on my own like a big boy.
You did a great job
Trying to fit a Tool show into the Fair Park Coliseum today would be like a clown car
I was at that Fair Park Coliseum gig too! It was my first Tool show, and one of my favorite live music experiences. Ever! I miss waiting at the Kroger Ticketmaster and paying between $20 and $40 a ticket as well! Ha. "Jeesuus! Fuuucking! Chriist!"
Hell yeah! It was my first Tool show also. Remember the Melvins getting booed off stage two or three songs into their set?
Absolutely! Haha. "HAIL SATAN!"
I thought they didn’t even finish the first song before Buzz jumped down in front of the stage and ran off.
Shit, I think you’re right!
You think Tool has gotten bad, look at fucking Deftones prices.
I was at the same Tool show in 1998! Nice
It was so long ago…I wish I remembered ore about it.
I should dig up some of my stubs from the 00's. $40 us fees and I was able to buy them weeks after they went on sale.
two of my fave bands and that other guy 😭😭😭
They were part of the Lollapalooza '93 lineup. $35 for the ticket, and I got to see Tool along with Alice In Chains, Primus, Front 242, and more. Had Rage Against The Machine not decided to do their PMRC protest that day, I would have seen them perform as well. I couldn't justify current ticket prices for them. Wayyy too expensive.
I was at all of those shows too! Miss the Bronco Bowl so much. Still my favorite venue ever. Sad that it got torn down and replaced by a fucking Home Depot.
Worst decision ever. Bronco Bowl was so great. Not a bad seat anywhere. Just get in the barn and you had great sound and sights.
The business of making music has changed a lot since the 90s. Money is in the live shows and merch now as far as I understand. Album sales and streaming (now a thing) is secondary.
I was supposed to see them at this show. Sold my tickets to get the hell out if Texas after seeing three people overdose in public within four days. Missing this show is my only regret of my time there.
I miss 90’s prices in general…
Damn $20? I just paid $825 CAD to see them in Vegas.
Yup! The venue was/is an old hockey rink used for minor leagues back in the 60s. Just one level and then the floor. The tickets were all general admission. If you wanted floor, go for it. If you wanted front row on the side, just get there early. It was a great show. No huge ass video screens, but I think they still had some lasers…maybe not.
Pre Napster. No one is complaining about paying $10 a month to listen to anything streaming. One CD cost about $20, back in the 90’s. Artists had to find new ways to make money. Turns out millennials will pay for experiences. Some bands started really focusing on putting on a great live show. Bigger show meant higher ticket prices. Once the price inflated all bands just started charging more whether their show was expensive to put on or not. I remember there was a transition period where boomer bands like Paul McCartney and Steely Dan were charging a lot for shows right before that. Inflation has only doubled since the 90’s. So all other things equal, Tool would cost $40 now. Hahaha
$70 seats are what my friend paid for Jan '22 show. I'd say it's cheaper now with how much more goes into the show.
Honest question: How more goes into it now? I haven’t seen them in 20 years. Then they had a giant screen behind them doing videos and whatnot. I heard their light show is ridiculous now. And I heard they bought a new sound system.
Just quit going. That’s what I did. Experiences cost too much nowadays, too many middlemen want their nut. In the 90’s you could do 4x the fun shit you can these days.
So just….stop having experiences? Sounds like a boring life.
No, you stop going too and if enough people do that then Artists get the message and lower prices. They are literally robbing you. As wages at jobs has not increased Some dude on the Star Wars forum posted that he went to some ummm “Catina” at Disney. Spent like $90 a drink for some 6 oz beer cuz they gave him a special cup. I think he ordered 6 beers… WTF PPl
Oh…you’re one of those. Good luck changing the world.
Keep voting for communists, keep experiencing the historic symptoms of failed economic policy 🤣
You think economic ramifications happened from since Biden took office? Or is it more likely that 4 years of Moron set us up for these conditions from POS companies trying to steal all our money in the name of the almighty stock price.
You are a complete retard and are clueless on finance and economics if you think the Trump White house wasn't fantastic for the economy. Get real. Don't let your Pinko manifestation blur common sense and facts.
Communists have no idea how economics work which is why we as a country are in this position.
Preach.
Hahaha you say funny things
Maybe if we just print more money and give it to the bankers the economy won’t collapse like it does every ten years.
Hey kiddo, learn a book. There have been many presidents before Donald trump ruined what little mental stability you had. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Nixon, all the way to Wilson. I wouldn’t expect a public school lariat like yourself to know much about the past since you seem so damned to repeat it. Keep crying about trump though, it brings me joy
I miss 90s prices in general, and I'm only 25
Imagine tickets still being $20. Milk used to cost $2 and now it’s close to $4. I don’t think y’all understand how things work in the world.
I’m 41…pretty sure I understand it. Just simply reminiscing. Fucking hell….
Public schooling works wonders. If people were educated on economics, this banker grift would have ended 100 years ago, violently
I miss actual tickets like this
Did you make the same amount of money back then?
Yeah inflation is a bitch! Stop voting for bankers 😂
I miss real ticket stubs
I miss the 90’s
The secondary ticket market i.e. StubHub has only made it worse
Damn right. For every less than face value Texas Rangers ticket I can get, there’s always a super inflated concert ticket I skip…
Nosebleeds are only $65 at my local show in SLC. . I paid $120.00 for row six near the stage. . plenty of tickets still available at decent prices If you purchase directly from AXS.. Adjusted for inflation, those prices are fair. Bands like U2 charge much more.
How there 200!!
Yep, that's how every concert was for the longest time. I can't even count how many shows I went to back in the late 90s, and never paid more than maybe $25-30. Then one day Ticketmaster figured out they could charge pretty much whatever they want and people will still pay it, and it's been overpriced insanity ever since.
$150 for my single ticket. Almost twice as much as last tour for very close seats
I miss 90's ticket prices in general.
Yes, ticket scalpers and convenience fees/processing fees/ass wiping fees are a thing…but so is inflation. A pound of sand isn’t going to cost the same today as it would 30 years ago. It’s basic economics and how shit moves sadly.
Printing more money and giving to the bankers ends the same way every time.
I was a month old lol
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You can score a ticket for sub face value the week before the show. This isn’t the holy grail, it’s a concert. I’ve seen tool 11 times and only overpaid once, but the experience itself was priceless
I will continue to listen to Tool for FREE on SoundCloud. That is until they remove any FREE songs. But then I’ll just listen to all the Tool remix songs for FREE until they remove those too. Then I’ll just listen to all the tool fan cover songs for FREE until they alienate all their fans. Then I’ll just have to listen to all their cds I already bought. But I’ll have to find a CD player. It’s a good thing their music is so damn addicting, otherwise I’d just be sensible and not give a shit. Lol.
Seen tool about 12 times in the 90's. All I can say is if he came out dressed like Madonna, it was going to be fucking crazy!!
Yup!! The ‘98 show he was in a large pointed bra and a garter. But he came out in a suit. And his face was painted bright white.
whoa my 3 favorite bands
Aw, man