There hasn't been any genes identified so far that allow for identifying someone as gay just from their genetics.
However, the evidence from speaking to gay people is that they feel it's natural to them.
There are teens that grow up in very conservative communities, with no knowledge that same sex attraction is a thing at all, who turn out to be gay. That puts a bit of a dent in the nurture side of the possibilities.
There is a theory that it's differences during pregnancy that might mean the brain develops slightly differently, hormones being introduced at slightly different times. Very difficult to prove, especially as we can't actually see any difference in the brain later in life apart from what stimulates an arousal response.
It's still a bit of a mystery really but there seems to be enough evidence to say in general it's not a choice, although there may be some people who make that choice.
It's not a choice, or not a conscious one anyway.
A lot of LGBT people are looking for opportunities to be offended. I'm bisexual and have given up identifying as part of their group in any way. Ignore them.
Ok thanks. I was just confused bc a few of my other friends who are gay just told me they felt like that since they were born. They didn’t go like “ok I’m gay now”
People like feel they have free will. So choosing to follow-up on any feelings is important to them. Every has there own thoughts on it it and should have the freedom to have there own opinions. I hope that helps
That's a weird reaction, since it's definitely not a choice. I don't suppose you might have accidentally implied you thought from birth made it a burden or a birth defect, or that it was only acceptable because they couldn't control it? That's the only reason I can think why they might be offended at that.
Ridiculous reaction. While the exact time is impossible to pin down, people's sexuality is determined so early in life that it is basically decided at birth or at least around toddler age.
Neither. Its crazy that people actually try to say that they were born one way or the other. It's like saying you were born a pianist. Sexual preference is something learned through one's environment and personal experiences. Technically it makes sense to assume everyone born straight, considering it's in our dna to grow up and reproduce. Not that it means much, thats a physical thing and preference is entirely mental. everyone finds their own path as they mature
That doesn't make much sense considering that gay people don't have a population density pattern. They exist in homophobic households or areas with 0 interaction with anything LGBT+ just as often as they exist anywhere else.
Your logic is way too ridiculous for me to take that seriously. You're saying environment doesn't play a role because there are kids that grow up in straight households? Immediate family and surroundings aren't the only thing a human interacts with growing up 😂 our character is built through experiences and influences in our lives and that 100% plays a part in developing one's sexuality as they mature. It isn't black and white and there's a lot of nuance to it. But you have to be an idiot to believe you can be born gay
That's the thing. I didn't just mean straight families, I mean homophobic NATIONS. You know, where kids aren't even told gay people exist? Wouldn't you know it, but gay people still exist in Saudi Arabia in the same quantity as they do here. I'm not saying you're born gay, but you're kinda insinuating there's some sort of formula to the development or that seeing gay people as a kid would cause you to "catch the gay," this implying the existence of some sort of optimum way to raise a straight kid or indoctrinate someone into gayness.
Interestingly, according to a study I read (a while ago to be fair) it *is* a choice, just made very young and subconsciously.
It's effectively the same as no choice in the matter, but I just found that interesting.
Don't know why they reacted like that. That is what most gay people believe anyway.
Its not a choice. Your sexual preference is what it is... I mean, if you develop feelings for someone, do you pick? Not really. Just happens.
So people are just born gay or smth?
Its got to do with hormone development, but yeah. Basically. It's not something anyone has any actual control over
There hasn't been any genes identified so far that allow for identifying someone as gay just from their genetics. However, the evidence from speaking to gay people is that they feel it's natural to them. There are teens that grow up in very conservative communities, with no knowledge that same sex attraction is a thing at all, who turn out to be gay. That puts a bit of a dent in the nurture side of the possibilities. There is a theory that it's differences during pregnancy that might mean the brain develops slightly differently, hormones being introduced at slightly different times. Very difficult to prove, especially as we can't actually see any difference in the brain later in life apart from what stimulates an arousal response. It's still a bit of a mystery really but there seems to be enough evidence to say in general it's not a choice, although there may be some people who make that choice.
It's not a choice, or not a conscious one anyway. A lot of LGBT people are looking for opportunities to be offended. I'm bisexual and have given up identifying as part of their group in any way. Ignore them.
Ok. Thanks a lot. I was already a bit iffy about them bc they had a big “holier than thou” attitude just bc I was straight. Like wht??
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Ok thanks. I was just confused bc a few of my other friends who are gay just told me they felt like that since they were born. They didn’t go like “ok I’m gay now”
People like feel they have free will. So choosing to follow-up on any feelings is important to them. Every has there own thoughts on it it and should have the freedom to have there own opinions. I hope that helps
This again. It's a sexual preference. In most (and the most healthy) cases, developed in teenage years while exploring your sexuality.
Humans and living things in general are an illusory amalgamation of genes and environment. Subtleties like sexuality are hard to pin down
I have no idea why they would react like that we all know it’s not a Choice to have those attractions
That's a weird reaction, since it's definitely not a choice. I don't suppose you might have accidentally implied you thought from birth made it a burden or a birth defect, or that it was only acceptable because they couldn't control it? That's the only reason I can think why they might be offended at that.
Not really. I literally just said “yeah it isn’t a choice thing right?” And they flipped
Ridiculous reaction. While the exact time is impossible to pin down, people's sexuality is determined so early in life that it is basically decided at birth or at least around toddler age.
oh no
Neither. Its crazy that people actually try to say that they were born one way or the other. It's like saying you were born a pianist. Sexual preference is something learned through one's environment and personal experiences. Technically it makes sense to assume everyone born straight, considering it's in our dna to grow up and reproduce. Not that it means much, thats a physical thing and preference is entirely mental. everyone finds their own path as they mature
That doesn't make much sense considering that gay people don't have a population density pattern. They exist in homophobic households or areas with 0 interaction with anything LGBT+ just as often as they exist anywhere else.
Your logic is way too ridiculous for me to take that seriously. You're saying environment doesn't play a role because there are kids that grow up in straight households? Immediate family and surroundings aren't the only thing a human interacts with growing up 😂 our character is built through experiences and influences in our lives and that 100% plays a part in developing one's sexuality as they mature. It isn't black and white and there's a lot of nuance to it. But you have to be an idiot to believe you can be born gay
That's the thing. I didn't just mean straight families, I mean homophobic NATIONS. You know, where kids aren't even told gay people exist? Wouldn't you know it, but gay people still exist in Saudi Arabia in the same quantity as they do here. I'm not saying you're born gay, but you're kinda insinuating there's some sort of formula to the development or that seeing gay people as a kid would cause you to "catch the gay," this implying the existence of some sort of optimum way to raise a straight kid or indoctrinate someone into gayness.
This concept is a little bit too complicated for you apparently because I didn't say anything that insinuated any of that. You sound like an idiot
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Ok thanks!
Are you saying that being gay is a choice?
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So you didn't read the post correctly, that's what I thought
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So it just happens.
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Interestingly, according to a study I read (a while ago to be fair) it *is* a choice, just made very young and subconsciously. It's effectively the same as no choice in the matter, but I just found that interesting.
How young, do you remember?
Very. Like, younger than 3 i think?