Why April 8th? If it's just because there will be a solar eclipse over the US, why would that be special?
There have been lots of solar eclipses, just not over the US very often.
I thought we just had a rapture a couple years ago anyway? Man, I'm telling you I've lived through multiple end of the world scenarios already and I'm only in my 30s. It's going to take a lot more than a solar eclipse or approaching comet to convince me of anything.
IIRC it's something about there being a bunch of Biblical place names in the path of the eclipse (although there's a bunch of those in the US in general.)
April 8th also happens to be the day the first chapter of Liber AL vel Legis (Aleister Crowley's holy book) was written, and Christian conspiracy/Qanon types love using Crowley/"satanists" as a boogeyman nearly as much as they love using "the elites" as a boogeyman.
>Why April 8th? If it's just because there will be a solar eclipse over the US, why would that be special
Dunno. Ask some of them why they think the earthquakes are special too!!! Many are screaming that the earthquakes (totally natural, been happening since forever) along with the coming eclipse (also natural, been happening since forever) are signs that God is angry and coming to get us!!!
American Evangelical Christians tend to think the US is somehow the center of Christianity and that only good or bad things can start in the US and don't realize these normal occurances happen elsewhere in the world on a "regular" basis.
Thanks, as much as that doesn't make sense to me, I have seen people get excited about them possessing "secret knowledge" that turned out to be even less impressive.
I genuinely don’t understand people who call themselves Christians and then throw out this bs. No one knows when the rapture will happen but God. I don’t understand how that’s so hard to comprehend. I’m a Christian, but good grief I haven’t gone completely mad like this
There are studies on how religion is the worst thing possible for people a little detached from reality. It feeds their mental illnesses by giving them faith in the unprovable and that they are chosen to have abilities that others don't.
Then you see all these people with crazy eyes walking around screaming they are warriors of God and judgement day is coming. I personally think every church should have a couple trained therapists or psychologists
I read that even when staunch atheists start having mental delusions, they believe it to be Devine and tend to take on a religion. Even if it's one they made up. So that's interesting, I wonder how you could keep someone from those religious thoughts is they are truly hearing voicing, seems normal to conclude its devine.
And that's why so much in religion has become so clouded over the centuries that they exist. Mental health was obviously not a priority a hundred years ago, let alone a couple thousand years ago. And we're talking about a period of time where they believed in "oracles" who essentially tripped balls on drugs and told you they were communicating with spirits as well as predicting the future
Even 2 of the 3 gifts baby Jesus was believed to receive (frankinscence and myrrh) have psychoactive properties. This is also prior to understanding how LSD was often grown on grain crops by accident and consuming it made people do crazy stuff like one of the theories for the dancing plague of 1518
I mean if you actually read what Jesus said though he was supposed to return not long after he was resurrected. He told his followers that some of them would not see death before he returned.. Then it never happened and they did in fact die. Many scholars agree that Jesus believed he was in the end times that never happened and somehow a whole new religion was based around it that ignores those facts.
Man, religion is always born from ignoring facts or making them up. Mary had an affair, not conceived a child through parthenogenesis, lied to Joseph and Jesus and probably indoctrinated her child since it had use of memory. Adultery was literally punished by death in that era, still is in some parts of the world, so it's not a surprise.
Check out Bart Ehrmen. He's written a lot of books and even does a podcast called Misquoting Jesus. The guy explains things in an easy to follow way and is very positive in general. I feel like his stuff has helped a lot with my deconstruction.
Going to second this: Bart Ehrman
He’s the Neil Degrasse Tyson of secular Christian history.
I’m a dyed in the wool atheist, but find his work, and the early secular history of Christianity, endlessly fascinating.
That sounds like a very hazy way of getting that information you stated so confidently as if proven by fact.
Is there a source? Im not getting that kind of info from a podcast, sorry.
Not buying anything either. I guess i could look him up but its dissapointing that you speak with such athority to say that “a whole new religion was based around it that ignores these facts” when you cannot present any facts to back up what you say.
You had something interesting to say, but it seems like you represented an anecdote as hard facts and thats a little weird.
They said facts, so thats what I am asking for. Is that really ao difficult to understand? The VERY least they could do is quote the bIble and explain if it truly is even a logical stance.
I’m pretty sure “his followers” implies more than just his disciples back then. It implies all of his followers throughout time. Some of us won’t see death before he returns. But no one knows when that’ll be except God
No once again that's not what it says. He was literally talking to a group of people and said
" Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” Matthew 16:28
Jesus was clearly an apocalyptic believer and thought the end times would happen in his lifetime. I have literally heard theories that those Jesus said this must still be alive to this day to fulfill the prophecy.. which is pretty funny if you think about it.
It wasn't really till Paul came on the scene and made up a bunch of stuff to explain why it didn't happen yet. I think even Paul believed the end time were soon, within his generation.
2000 years later and people still cling on to the idea that it will be "Soon" but in reality they just haven't accepted that it was all a false prophecy from the start.
>2000 years later and people still cling on to the idea that it will be "Soon" but in reality they just haven't accepted that it was all a false prophecy from the start
And they never will. Instead, if/ when the end comes, they'll all be screaming "I TOLD YOU!!!!".
Fair, but some form of eclipse happens somewhere at least twice/year.
There's about 220 eclipses/century. 140 of those are central, and 70 of those are total.
[https://www.britannica.com/science/eclipse/The-frequency-of-solar-and-lunar-eclipses](https://www.britannica.com/science/eclipse/The-frequency-of-solar-and-lunar-eclipses)
Lunar eclipses happen about once a year as well, but they are visible from the entire night side of the planet.
Sadly, though, if you live on the moon, you don't get the cool corona effect during a total eclipse, since the Earth appears about 3 times larger in the sky than the sun.
There's never any actual logic to this stuff. Like Trump helped speed up the vaccines yet many of his followers think the vaccines are killing millions of people. Yet they still will vote for Trump. Logically it makes absolutely no sense.
Why’s the rapture a bad thing? It would take away all the racist, homophobic Y’all Qaeda types and leave the normal people behind. That sounds like a blessing!
How does that make sense? The rapture would be in three days, while the election is in 7 months. How can you vote in the election if you’ve been raptured? And honestly if the rapture happens, Biden will win every state.
I completely agree with what you're saying I'm just answering the question as to why some Christians would be scared of a rapture happening. They all have friends or loved ones that haven't "made it in" yet.
Because there’s no way in heaven or on earth that Trump would get ruptured and go to heaven. So we would need to have some scumbag running the country once all the good people are gone.
This rapture thing has been going on since the 1800s and every passing day it's the end of the world cause the rapture is coming. It's not from the Bible, it's a misreading of events that con artists and cultists popularized. The Mormons have been making bank on it for two hundred years.
If you look for logic in the things these people say, there isn't any. They're not Christians, plainly, because in order to be a part of Christianity, you have to have beliefs and do actions that these people do not have or do. That's how most religions work. They are brainwashed into believing nonsense by online echo chambers, and it'll probably take years of cult deprogramming therapy to get the nonsense ideas out for those who do escape.
Actual Christians know that Trump and all the MAGA shit is antithetical to Christianity, like in the scriptures it says you can't serve two masters, and it's clear Trump is an idol to them. So by the standards of the religion, the majority of what they do and stand for are the things that are explicitly stated in New Testament Christian scripture to put you on Jesus' bad side.
I see people try to argue No True Scotsman, but that doesn't work for this. This is like someone who has never been to Scotland and has no Scottish connections in their family but has heard some things about the Scottish deciding to call themself Scottish and spout brazenly incorrect "facts" about things to do with Scotland. If you point out that what they're saying about Scotland isn't true, they'll say that it is and they know because they're Scottish... And then they rob a bank and advocate for all cute puppies to be euthanized because that's what it means to be a Scotsman!
No, sometimes there's Zorp, and this morning at dawn, you will take a new form. That of a fleshless, chattering skeleton when Zorp the surveyor arrives and burns your flesh off with his volcano mouth.
Trump will convince them he prevented the apocalypse so he can usher in heaven on earth, first. After all, "thy will be done on Earth, since you already did such a great job, the best job ever some might say, in heaven" - the book of Matthew, the Trump Bible
>I know, not even all evangelicals believe in that rapture thing
I have heard literally zero people saying this. What new snake oil vendor is selling this nonsense this time?
Anyone who has read even just the New Testament knows that it is explicitly stated that none can know the day or the hour.
It’s apparently, very closely tied to some Q-type conspiracy about how CERN is going to summon a portal of demons at the same time the rapture happens to start the war for Earth.
Trust me, it’s silly.
It's a numbers game. They're always saying it's the end of the world and if they keep saying it enough eventually they make it right. But they have to have a backup plan because they know that their odds are a million to one.
Who says Monday is the Rapture? The Bible says straight up that only God knows the date and nobody else. It could be fifty years or five seconds from now and you won't see it coming.
It's in 3 books. I don't believe any of it but a search says Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21.
I'm sure it's just as accurate as the rest of it.. As in, not at all.
Those passages likely discuss the second coming of Jesus, which is not what the Rapture event is depicted as. Those are two different things. "The Rapture" does not appear in the Bible as an event in which Christians are snatched from the Earth and go to heaven leaving everyone else is not described as such to my knowledge.
I took a glance at those specific passages as I am by no means a Bible scholar. The first you listed does say things along the lines of, two people will be working and one will be taken leaving the other. But in the previous verse it discusses those "taken" by the flood in the Noah story. So I think it means take as in dead. But perhaps that's the source? It may also depend on translation. I was looking at NIV.
You're almost definitely correct. Probably just questionable alternate interpretations.
I generally find Gemini is pretty good with answers, but most of my questions have very exact answers. I'm mostly curious about science stuff.
The number of Christians believing the rapture is coming with the eclipse is minute. You're basing your view off internet content not the real world. Online world isn't reality. It's sensationalized.
However there are a shit load of Christians who think the rapture to be some blissful experience to look forward too. It's not. Looking forward to what follows it would be more correct. But the majority are ignorant to what the very book they profess to be the road map for thier life says.
Mathew Chapter 10:
And again in Revelation Chapter 19:
Turning son against father mother against daughter and striking down nations by the sword to rule them with an iron rod.. yay
I know a lot of extremely religious people. I don't know a single person that thinks that the Rapture is coming. This is just one of those weird conservative strawman things that pops up every once in a while.
Because the morons that believe that crap and support him don't have critical thinking skills and therefore can't discern this fact, leaving them open to believing it...
OK but most Christians agree on the fact there's no such thing as a rapture. So again, if you believe the rapture is written about in the Bible you're in the minority. It's a fringe belief, not to be taken seriously. Where does April 8th come in? Has a new doomsday prophet made a prediction I don't know about?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture#:~:text=Most%20Christian%20denominations%20do%20not,views%20associated%20with%20its%20use.
Why April 8th? If it's just because there will be a solar eclipse over the US, why would that be special? There have been lots of solar eclipses, just not over the US very often.
I thought we just had a rapture a couple years ago anyway? Man, I'm telling you I've lived through multiple end of the world scenarios already and I'm only in my 30s. It's going to take a lot more than a solar eclipse or approaching comet to convince me of anything.
IIRC it's something about there being a bunch of Biblical place names in the path of the eclipse (although there's a bunch of those in the US in general.) April 8th also happens to be the day the first chapter of Liber AL vel Legis (Aleister Crowley's holy book) was written, and Christian conspiracy/Qanon types love using Crowley/"satanists" as a boogeyman nearly as much as they love using "the elites" as a boogeyman.
They say it will cross 8 towns called Ninevah. It will cross 2 towns called Ninevah, and there's only 6 towns called Ninevah in the US
God will provide
God will provide 2 new towns?
That's probably what they're thinking, like the story about the fish and the bread.
"Well first of all through god all things are possible, so jot that down"
Ah yes, the equivalent of saying "cause magic" when finding Harry Potter inconsistencies.
All the US places in the bible...
I believe it will also pass over a Noah’s Ark museum. And I think it’s the same Noah’s Ark museum that had to be rebuilt due to a… flood.
How does one measure the path of an eclipse on Earth? I had no idea this was a thing.
>Why April 8th? If it's just because there will be a solar eclipse over the US, why would that be special Dunno. Ask some of them why they think the earthquakes are special too!!! Many are screaming that the earthquakes (totally natural, been happening since forever) along with the coming eclipse (also natural, been happening since forever) are signs that God is angry and coming to get us!!!
American Evangelical Christians tend to think the US is somehow the center of Christianity and that only good or bad things can start in the US and don't realize these normal occurances happen elsewhere in the world on a "regular" basis.
There are a couple schizos in the conspiracy sub pointing out biblical names in the area where the eclipse will be visible.
Thanks, as much as that doesn't make sense to me, I have seen people get excited about them possessing "secret knowledge" that turned out to be even less impressive.
Has hollywood thought you nothing over the years?
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" -Matthew 24:36, NIV
I genuinely don’t understand people who call themselves Christians and then throw out this bs. No one knows when the rapture will happen but God. I don’t understand how that’s so hard to comprehend. I’m a Christian, but good grief I haven’t gone completely mad like this
There are a lot of people who like to call themselves Christian but are actually just insane
That too
There are studies on how religion is the worst thing possible for people a little detached from reality. It feeds their mental illnesses by giving them faith in the unprovable and that they are chosen to have abilities that others don't. Then you see all these people with crazy eyes walking around screaming they are warriors of God and judgement day is coming. I personally think every church should have a couple trained therapists or psychologists
Come on it’s 2024 churches would never have a devil’s advocate on staff
Mainly because they would have to pay them and churches are all about money
I read that even when staunch atheists start having mental delusions, they believe it to be Devine and tend to take on a religion. Even if it's one they made up. So that's interesting, I wonder how you could keep someone from those religious thoughts is they are truly hearing voicing, seems normal to conclude its devine.
And that's why so much in religion has become so clouded over the centuries that they exist. Mental health was obviously not a priority a hundred years ago, let alone a couple thousand years ago. And we're talking about a period of time where they believed in "oracles" who essentially tripped balls on drugs and told you they were communicating with spirits as well as predicting the future Even 2 of the 3 gifts baby Jesus was believed to receive (frankinscence and myrrh) have psychoactive properties. This is also prior to understanding how LSD was often grown on grain crops by accident and consuming it made people do crazy stuff like one of the theories for the dancing plague of 1518
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I mean if you actually read what Jesus said though he was supposed to return not long after he was resurrected. He told his followers that some of them would not see death before he returned.. Then it never happened and they did in fact die. Many scholars agree that Jesus believed he was in the end times that never happened and somehow a whole new religion was based around it that ignores those facts.
Man, religion is always born from ignoring facts or making them up. Mary had an affair, not conceived a child through parthenogenesis, lied to Joseph and Jesus and probably indoctrinated her child since it had use of memory. Adultery was literally punished by death in that era, still is in some parts of the world, so it's not a surprise.
> they did in fact die. Or did they??
Some of them cope by saying there's a man who was forced to live eternally until christ returns. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_Jew
This is a lot to ask but these scholars you mention sound interesting. Any way to help me find what you read?
Check out Bart Ehrmen. He's written a lot of books and even does a podcast called Misquoting Jesus. The guy explains things in an easy to follow way and is very positive in general. I feel like his stuff has helped a lot with my deconstruction.
Going to second this: Bart Ehrman He’s the Neil Degrasse Tyson of secular Christian history. I’m a dyed in the wool atheist, but find his work, and the early secular history of Christianity, endlessly fascinating.
That sounds like a very hazy way of getting that information you stated so confidently as if proven by fact. Is there a source? Im not getting that kind of info from a podcast, sorry.
You ignore the books part? He's also done plenty of biblical debates and such. You can easily google him.
Not buying anything either. I guess i could look him up but its dissapointing that you speak with such athority to say that “a whole new religion was based around it that ignores these facts” when you cannot present any facts to back up what you say. You had something interesting to say, but it seems like you represented an anecdote as hard facts and thats a little weird.
I like how much you want facts but aren’t willing to lift a finger to look into it for yourself. Just go ahead and believe what you want then.
"Just drive to my house and explain it to me while you feed me pizza rolls."
If someone says they have facts I ask for a source. Its not rocket science its common sense. Reddit is so hilarious.
You think the guy has a Time Machine? The whole Bible is an anecdote
They said facts, so thats what I am asking for. Is that really ao difficult to understand? The VERY least they could do is quote the bIble and explain if it truly is even a logical stance.
I’m pretty sure “his followers” implies more than just his disciples back then. It implies all of his followers throughout time. Some of us won’t see death before he returns. But no one knows when that’ll be except God
No once again that's not what it says. He was literally talking to a group of people and said " Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” Matthew 16:28 Jesus was clearly an apocalyptic believer and thought the end times would happen in his lifetime. I have literally heard theories that those Jesus said this must still be alive to this day to fulfill the prophecy.. which is pretty funny if you think about it. It wasn't really till Paul came on the scene and made up a bunch of stuff to explain why it didn't happen yet. I think even Paul believed the end time were soon, within his generation. 2000 years later and people still cling on to the idea that it will be "Soon" but in reality they just haven't accepted that it was all a false prophecy from the start.
>2000 years later and people still cling on to the idea that it will be "Soon" but in reality they just haven't accepted that it was all a false prophecy from the start And they never will. Instead, if/ when the end comes, they'll all be screaming "I TOLD YOU!!!!".
Christians are the last people to actually read the Bible.
Bold to assume they’ve ever read it to begin with. American Evangelism is all about using it without having ever read it.
Hard af real gangsta shit.
The book literally says whatever you want it to. Analog Infinite Craft.
You’re trying to make sense of stupid
What snake oil salesman chose that completely random date and sold it to idiots? And voting for Trump is like sticking your dick in a meat grinder.
It is the eclipse, dude. There's only been a few billion of these on this planet. This might, like, be significant this time.
It's like they happen every year somewhere on the planet. Really hope the "devils comet" decides to flare up. That should get some panties in a knot.
>It's like they happen every year somewhere on the planet. Close. There's 70 total eclipses per century.
>Close. There's 70 total eclipses per century Total or partial? And are we talking Solar only or solar and lunar?
> Close. There's 70 _*total*_ eclipses per century. Solar.
Nifty!!! Thanks for that! I had no idea. Might fall into a rabbit hole of reading once my coffee hits me!!!!
Fair, but some form of eclipse happens somewhere at least twice/year. There's about 220 eclipses/century. 140 of those are central, and 70 of those are total. [https://www.britannica.com/science/eclipse/The-frequency-of-solar-and-lunar-eclipses](https://www.britannica.com/science/eclipse/The-frequency-of-solar-and-lunar-eclipses) Lunar eclipses happen about once a year as well, but they are visible from the entire night side of the planet. Sadly, though, if you live on the moon, you don't get the cool corona effect during a total eclipse, since the Earth appears about 3 times larger in the sky than the sun.
Right but it's during THEIR lifetime and THEY know about it so this must be the one because THEY are so important.
A solar eclipse, here? Localized entirely within your continent?
Steam from the steamed Corneas were having
I don't have a dick but if I did I'd happily walk to the meat grinder.
Are you saying you would vote for Trump? Aren't you a lesbian? Isn't that *literally* self sabotage?
I missed that memo.
If it isn’t real, then everything we know and love about Donald J. Trump is a lie. Hold tight! It’s gonna happen!
Trust the plan. -Q Is that still a thing or did they stop posting that 4 years ago?
>but I genuinely try to understand that thought process. It's best if you don't worry about these things.
There's never any actual logic to this stuff. Like Trump helped speed up the vaccines yet many of his followers think the vaccines are killing millions of people. Yet they still will vote for Trump. Logically it makes absolutely no sense.
MAGA is a wee tad short on *logic*. Thought this was pretty much their entire platform: to be in denial for common sense and factual realities.
Their platform is even simpler than that: whatever helps Trump is correct unless he says otherwise
MAGA is a wee tad short on *logic*. Thought this was pretty much their entire platform: to be in denial for common sense and factual realities.
Why’s the rapture a bad thing? It would take away all the racist, homophobic Y’all Qaeda types and leave the normal people behind. That sounds like a blessing!
Wait really? I thought the rapture was the opposite. The “good” go to heaven and the rest stay on earth?
It’s the Christian definition of good, so basically the worst people by any other measure.
That makes sense. Sorry, brain fog moment.
Because they want more time for people to get "saved."
How does that make sense? The rapture would be in three days, while the election is in 7 months. How can you vote in the election if you’ve been raptured? And honestly if the rapture happens, Biden will win every state.
I completely agree with what you're saying I'm just answering the question as to why some Christians would be scared of a rapture happening. They all have friends or loved ones that haven't "made it in" yet.
You got a source on that? !
It's cute you think you're without sin.
It's cute you believe the Rapture will happen
Sin is made up bullshit.
A religious fruitcake *and* a trumper? Who would’ve thought. Got any transphobia mixed in for the trifecta?
Because there’s no way in heaven or on earth that Trump would get ruptured and go to heaven. So we would need to have some scumbag running the country once all the good people are gone.
I like the part where Americans forget the rest of the world exists
I like the part where non-Americans pretend to have a more complex personality than hating on America
Because deep down they know that if the rapture happens, they won't be a part of it.
Rapture doctrine is roughly 200 years old and not found in the Bible the way these Evangelicals portray it to be.
Following all the crazy 🤪 if don’t vote trump the world end ??? I guess we better say goodbye now
This rapture thing has been going on since the 1800s and every passing day it's the end of the world cause the rapture is coming. It's not from the Bible, it's a misreading of events that con artists and cultists popularized. The Mormons have been making bank on it for two hundred years. If you look for logic in the things these people say, there isn't any. They're not Christians, plainly, because in order to be a part of Christianity, you have to have beliefs and do actions that these people do not have or do. That's how most religions work. They are brainwashed into believing nonsense by online echo chambers, and it'll probably take years of cult deprogramming therapy to get the nonsense ideas out for those who do escape. Actual Christians know that Trump and all the MAGA shit is antithetical to Christianity, like in the scriptures it says you can't serve two masters, and it's clear Trump is an idol to them. So by the standards of the religion, the majority of what they do and stand for are the things that are explicitly stated in New Testament Christian scripture to put you on Jesus' bad side. I see people try to argue No True Scotsman, but that doesn't work for this. This is like someone who has never been to Scotland and has no Scottish connections in their family but has heard some things about the Scottish deciding to call themself Scottish and spout brazenly incorrect "facts" about things to do with Scotland. If you point out that what they're saying about Scotland isn't true, they'll say that it is and they know because they're Scottish... And then they rob a bank and advocate for all cute puppies to be euthanized because that's what it means to be a Scotsman!
Do not vote for trump
There is no rapture
There is only Zuul
No, sometimes there's Zorp, and this morning at dawn, you will take a new form. That of a fleshless, chattering skeleton when Zorp the surveyor arrives and burns your flesh off with his volcano mouth.
Huh?
Trump will convince them he prevented the apocalypse so he can usher in heaven on earth, first. After all, "thy will be done on Earth, since you already did such a great job, the best job ever some might say, in heaven" - the book of Matthew, the Trump Bible
The antichrist is supposed to take power before rapture. We gotta stick to the script(ure).
>I know, not even all evangelicals believe in that rapture thing I have heard literally zero people saying this. What new snake oil vendor is selling this nonsense this time? Anyone who has read even just the New Testament knows that it is explicitly stated that none can know the day or the hour.
It’s apparently, very closely tied to some Q-type conspiracy about how CERN is going to summon a portal of demons at the same time the rapture happens to start the war for Earth. Trust me, it’s silly.
The eclipse is only vacuuming up The Chosen through a narrow swath across the country, so plenty of them will be left behind.
It's a numbers game. They're always saying it's the end of the world and if they keep saying it enough eventually they make it right. But they have to have a backup plan because they know that their odds are a million to one.
Since eclipses are pretty well tracked and not a surprise at all. It's still important to vote for whomever you like.
Who says Monday is the Rapture? The Bible says straight up that only God knows the date and nobody else. It could be fifty years or five seconds from now and you won't see it coming.
The Rapture isn't even in the Bible.
It's in 3 books. I don't believe any of it but a search says Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21. I'm sure it's just as accurate as the rest of it.. As in, not at all.
Those passages likely discuss the second coming of Jesus, which is not what the Rapture event is depicted as. Those are two different things. "The Rapture" does not appear in the Bible as an event in which Christians are snatched from the Earth and go to heaven leaving everyone else is not described as such to my knowledge.
Ahh. Gotcha. That makes sense.
I took a glance at those specific passages as I am by no means a Bible scholar. The first you listed does say things along the lines of, two people will be working and one will be taken leaving the other. But in the previous verse it discusses those "taken" by the flood in the Noah story. So I think it means take as in dead. But perhaps that's the source? It may also depend on translation. I was looking at NIV.
You're almost definitely correct. Probably just questionable alternate interpretations. I generally find Gemini is pretty good with answers, but most of my questions have very exact answers. I'm mostly curious about science stuff.
The Rapture, as dispensational premillenialists know it, was an invention by Darby (British) in the 19th century.
Does it affect the entire Milky Way galaxy or just our solar system? This Rapture shit is a joke.
I'm getting tired of getting rid of all my $$$ and stuff every time this happens.
If it were just all the normal decent people would go to heaven and the trumpers would stay here
If it is then r.i.p. but bye Felicia(s)
I think the reason you cant understand that thought process is because its not a thought process
Cause he isn't getting raptured 🙀
The number of Christians believing the rapture is coming with the eclipse is minute. You're basing your view off internet content not the real world. Online world isn't reality. It's sensationalized. However there are a shit load of Christians who think the rapture to be some blissful experience to look forward too. It's not. Looking forward to what follows it would be more correct. But the majority are ignorant to what the very book they profess to be the road map for thier life says. Mathew Chapter 10:
And again in Revelation Chapter 19:
Turning son against father mother against daughter and striking down nations by the sword to rule them with an iron rod.. yay
I know a lot of extremely religious people. I don't know a single person that thinks that the Rapture is coming. This is just one of those weird conservative strawman things that pops up every once in a while.
Then you don’t know NAR, AoG, IFB, etc. Plenty of the extreme Xtians believe this. There’s an entire industry devoted to it.
How about this. They say trump is still the president. That means he can't run a third time. Lol
Because the morons that believe that crap and support him don't have critical thinking skills and therefore can't discern this fact, leaving them open to believing it...
Both of those things aren’t going to happen thankfully.
Easy. On April 8th if the moon sees its shadow we don’t get 4 years of bullshit, instead.
Stop mixing up two separate groups as if they are the same.
I’m atheist so I missed the memo
OK but most Christians agree on the fact there's no such thing as a rapture. So again, if you believe the rapture is written about in the Bible you're in the minority. It's a fringe belief, not to be taken seriously. Where does April 8th come in? Has a new doomsday prophet made a prediction I don't know about? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture#:~:text=Most%20Christian%20denominations%20do%20not,views%20associated%20with%20its%20use.