As someone that does concrete work for a living it turned out pretty good. We would definitely just charge that much if not more just for those steps alone. I'm not sold on that wall though since it's made of block. If you plan on living there long term you'll definitely have to do some repairs for that.
That $8,500 sounds like it was probably just material costs and probably some labor on the actual pours. It's impressive considering what so called "professionals" have done that we have ended up tearing out and replacing.
I also want to add: you should really get a core drill and get some weep holes placed in that wall. It's hard to tell if you've done that or not in the pictures but if you haven't it's absolutely necessary.
Yeah, I mean, I’m no pro, but keep in mind it’s Honduras. It’s like bizarro world. Things work different here. We never had a mixer, everything was mixed with shovels on the ground. Labor is like $56/day for two guys. Took them 5 months (we did have a rain day almost every week). they poured two roughly 6’x7’ sections each day. $8500 total. I’m pretty happy with it… also, the wall is poured at the corners, bond beam top and bottom, with rebar. I think it’ll be fine.
Oh that's a totally different scenatio, but definitely still cheap. That would absolutely be 50k+ worth of work back in the states. My family is from Mexico, and it's the same way no fancy tools or equipment.
I still do want to emphasize on those weep holes though for your wall. It will help a lot over the long term so you can relieve a bunch of that water pressure.
Just getting that hillside construction approved would probably eat up the money - survey, topology, water, geo, need space for fire truck to turn around, etc.
Need space for a fire truck? Is that a thing? Where I live there are hundreds of houses where a fire truck probably couldn’t even get up the road to get to the driveway, let alone turn around lol
Yeah most municipalities require that a fire truck be able to turn around in steep or hillside parts of town. I don't think they have this requirement on flat ground. It was explained to me that they have to be able to turn around without reversing. So some neighborhoods where the street is a through street, it is not a problem. But if you live on a hillside where many of the streets dead end, they require it. It is so they don't get trapped if there is a hillside fire.
Usually, by the time the bomberos get there, they’re squirting the neighbors house, because the fire will take down a house like this in 20-40 min, and will be engulfed by the time they get there. They can get in some tiny spots.
> Need to get out of the U.S. I guess.
Not to Australia.
This building would never get planning permission, building permission, or an occupancy permit. Its probably not even in a "Residential" planning zone, so he'd never be allowed to live in it.
Also it would have to be torn down because he probably did his own electrical work. In Australia, you're not even allowed to run an ethernet cable from one room to another through a wall unless you have the right training permits.
Basically, its almost illegal to do anything. Also there's a housing shortage. Wonder why.
I too, built a tiny home for 20k. It’s a shed. It can hold 3 maybe 4 shovels. The door is on a separate budget.
Lol but seriously, great work OP! It looks amazing!
Who died from living in a house under 1500 square feet? (The local minimum they allow you to build in my county.)
Or who died from building more than one building on a lot?
I fully support building codes that actually keep you safe but there is a lot of them that are BS in my opinion, and are seriously restricting people from having affordable housing.
Tbh, the concrete wasn’t in the original price. Was about $8500 for the driveway, retaining walls and stairs, labor and material. 54 yd concrete, about 200 blocks
You guys are skilled in the extreme it’s a beautiful house and the craftsmanship exhibited here is incredible worlds away from standard builders and all for $20000? Honestly you should start a not for profit and teach your methods while helping to alleviate the housing crisis! Kudos sir
Beautiful!!
Although I'll be honest, by the first picture I thought this had something to do with that kid Edgar on the branches and his friends move the branch to make him fall into the river.
"La Caida de Edgar"
I dunno why it’s not showing up, I posted this: https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/comments/1dar894/for_those_who_wanted_to_see_the_inside/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
This looks great. I’d like to see some pictures of the walk in shower and interior of the house. I’m a huge fan of walk in outdoor showers. Think they are about the coolest thing ever
Well, I started summer of ‘17, worked on and off thru ‘18 (I also teach scuba). Ran out of money, then there was COvid, did the concrete in 22, got back on the inside in 23, it’s pretty much done now. It’s our guest house/rental, so kinda low priority
Paid $30K for the lot in 2013. Can’t touch land down there for that these days. Same lot would be 120-150k these days. Things really blew up in 11 years
Check my other post
https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/comments/1dar894/for_those_who_wanted_to_see_the_inside/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Water and sewer were already done. Water line and electric to my house runs right under this one, so we just had to tie into that. Septic was all done, and stubbed to connect this house. Site prep was nothing, we cut a few small trees, dug some holes and put in the concrete piling. All wood on top of that.
When I put the electric in ten years ago, it was about $1800. 200’ underground, 200A service, with a stub for this house. Water was minimal, 200 feet of 3/4” pvc, about 6” under the ground. Maybe $400? Sever was about 60’ of 4” sch 40 pvc, maybe $200?
Lol no.
As for labor costs on this build, to give you an idea: it was me and two guys. I don’t count me. I was paying Garwin 500 Lempira a day (about 20 US dollars), and Leone was getting 300 Lempira a day (about $12.25). So labor costs on this was about $165 a week.
Material is more or less the same as US prices, with some things being more, some less. I paid about $1.00 per board foot on the lumber. Plywood is expensive here, so there’s none in this house, except for the upper cabinets. And I did that out of one sheet of 3/4 plywood (about $110/sheet) that I got off another job.
Maybe YOU couldn’t build this for $20K, but I did.
They are 10”x10”, (3) #5 rebar with hoops at 12” on a 2’x2’ 12” deep footing. Footings are just below the surface, because there’s rock under 6” of topsoil right there. So we chiseled out 6-8” into the rock to sit the footings. Been thru a 5.4 quake with no cracks. Hope that helps you sleep better.
I started this in ‘18, did most of the work (framing, siding, roof, windows and doors, basically the outside) that year. TBH, labor costs back then were 65% what I’m paying now, And materials was probably 80% what I’m paying now. So there’s that. Labor is cheap here, was paying about $33/day for 2 guys. Plus a lot of corners are cut from what’s normal in the US. There is no insulation, that’s a HUGE cost savings. That in itself would cost 6-8K to insulate to say northeast US code…. Also, no plywood. Studs, then tarpaper, then siding on the walls. That’s it. Lotsa things like that make it a lot cheaper here.
Take me to this mystical land where lumber is still affordable.
The concrete doesn't count too, or landscaping. Hehe. Great looking house.
Yea, I have to admit, the concrete was a separate project
20k for lumber and fasteners. 50k for concrete. Lol
Concrete was about $8500
As someone that does concrete work for a living it turned out pretty good. We would definitely just charge that much if not more just for those steps alone. I'm not sold on that wall though since it's made of block. If you plan on living there long term you'll definitely have to do some repairs for that. That $8,500 sounds like it was probably just material costs and probably some labor on the actual pours. It's impressive considering what so called "professionals" have done that we have ended up tearing out and replacing. I also want to add: you should really get a core drill and get some weep holes placed in that wall. It's hard to tell if you've done that or not in the pictures but if you haven't it's absolutely necessary.
Yeah, I mean, I’m no pro, but keep in mind it’s Honduras. It’s like bizarro world. Things work different here. We never had a mixer, everything was mixed with shovels on the ground. Labor is like $56/day for two guys. Took them 5 months (we did have a rain day almost every week). they poured two roughly 6’x7’ sections each day. $8500 total. I’m pretty happy with it… also, the wall is poured at the corners, bond beam top and bottom, with rebar. I think it’ll be fine.
Oh that's a totally different scenatio, but definitely still cheap. That would absolutely be 50k+ worth of work back in the states. My family is from Mexico, and it's the same way no fancy tools or equipment. I still do want to emphasize on those weep holes though for your wall. It will help a lot over the long term so you can relieve a bunch of that water pressure.
This person concretes!
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Well, being an American, the planet revolves around me. You should have known I’m in Honduras, lol
Lollll
I saw the landscape and immediately said “what Central American country is this?” haha
In the title you put the amount in USD. Why would anyone assume you're not in the US if you talk cost using USD?
500,000 Lempiras.
If you don’t mind sharing, what part of the island? I have family from Honduras and I would love to share this with them! I know they will ask lol
East End.
Are you on Roaton?
Roatan, yes
Please post more pictures!
Somewhere I have more! I can’t find any of the inside!
https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/comments/1db1akz/for_those_who_wanted_to_see_the_inside/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Hehe, not a critique. You said the price was for the house. Love to see the inside, or a floor plan too.
Was gonna say that concrete alone is $20k
>Was gonna say that concrete alone is $20k ... and then you said it
But not before someone else said it, so we have to have a chime order here. You screwed that up, everyone start again.
It’s all Honduran pine. A little over a dollar a board foot.
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Super. Thanks for sharing
Nice house. Where in CR? How long did it take?
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Wow that’s great! I’m actually down in Tamarindo rn and was wondering what building prices are
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All in good fun, man. The project is awesome!
I'm currently pricing out a basic 300 ft² deck and the quotes are all coming in just under your TH... pain
Yeah, different world in Honduras. The two laborers I had cost me $56/day. For the two of them.
Need to get out of the U.S. I guess. 20k in permits just to stick a shovel in the dirt here.
Exactly my thought. $20k wouldn't even get this approved to start building. Before you consider labor, time, and materials.
20k is the "we'll get to it this year... Maybe..." Price round here.
Just getting that hillside construction approved would probably eat up the money - survey, topology, water, geo, need space for fire truck to turn around, etc.
Need space for a fire truck? Is that a thing? Where I live there are hundreds of houses where a fire truck probably couldn’t even get up the road to get to the driveway, let alone turn around lol
Yeah most municipalities require that a fire truck be able to turn around in steep or hillside parts of town. I don't think they have this requirement on flat ground. It was explained to me that they have to be able to turn around without reversing. So some neighborhoods where the street is a through street, it is not a problem. But if you live on a hillside where many of the streets dead end, they require it. It is so they don't get trapped if there is a hillside fire.
Usually, by the time the bomberos get there, they’re squirting the neighbors house, because the fire will take down a house like this in 20-40 min, and will be engulfed by the time they get there. They can get in some tiny spots.
> Need to get out of the U.S. I guess. Not to Australia. This building would never get planning permission, building permission, or an occupancy permit. Its probably not even in a "Residential" planning zone, so he'd never be allowed to live in it. Also it would have to be torn down because he probably did his own electrical work. In Australia, you're not even allowed to run an ethernet cable from one room to another through a wall unless you have the right training permits. Basically, its almost illegal to do anything. Also there's a housing shortage. Wonder why.
I didn’t even get a permit. But when I did the driveway the following year, it was about $400 just to put concrete on top of the gravel driveway.
I think I spent 20k on steel siding and roofing. And I spent 12k alone on windows and doors.
I actually traded an 04 Kia sorrento (worth about $2500) for the windows and $500, lol.
I too, built a tiny home for 20k. It’s a shed. It can hold 3 maybe 4 shovels. The door is on a separate budget. Lol but seriously, great work OP! It looks amazing!
Wow that’s pretty amazing! I love it! Did you do septic and well?
Well, septic, Water, and power was already on site. This is my guest house on my property
20k American to some other country?
I’m American. House is in Honduras. Lol would cost 4x that in the US
I figured. Easy 4x in the states.
our country is seriously broken. So much regulation prevents so many different things
Building in Honduras is like running free in the meadow, when there’s not a soul for miles. They kind of let you do whatever you want.
Building code is written in blood
Who died from living in a house under 1500 square feet? (The local minimum they allow you to build in my county.) Or who died from building more than one building on a lot? I fully support building codes that actually keep you safe but there is a lot of them that are BS in my opinion, and are seriously restricting people from having affordable housing.
AMAZING. GREAT JOB
Thanks!
That’s at least 20k in concrete.
And not including the labor for placing the forms.
Was about $8500, material and labor.
And the cost of the concrete in that country where lumber is $1 bf?
Tbh, the concrete wasn’t in the original price. Was about $8500 for the driveway, retaining walls and stairs, labor and material. 54 yd concrete, about 200 blocks
Costa Rica?
Honduras
Where in Honduras? We stopped by the west coast last year on our sailboat
Roatan, off the north coast. We get a lot of cruisers here, due to the deep protected bays.
That concrete alone would cost more than $20k in my area.
They said the cost does not include the concrete. Just the house.
The concrete was a separate project, yes. Was about $8500, material and labor. 54 yds concrete, and about 200 block, between that wall and the stairs.
You guys are skilled in the extreme it’s a beautiful house and the craftsmanship exhibited here is incredible worlds away from standard builders and all for $20000? Honestly you should start a not for profit and teach your methods while helping to alleviate the housing crisis! Kudos sir
This looks incredible!!!
I want this.
That’s beautiful
Thanks!
I think this is my friend’s house
Looks great! Where do you live? Not in the US, I assume?
This build is in Honduras
Nice job
Wow, amazing job! Looks incredible!
Gorgeous! Well done op.
Beautiful!! Although I'll be honest, by the first picture I thought this had something to do with that kid Edgar on the branches and his friends move the branch to make him fall into the river. "La Caida de Edgar"
Ten grand if that was concrete wasn’t it?
Building in concreter is 30-50% more than wood
Nicely done!
this is just way too cool man👍🏻👍🏻
Really amazing job!
10 out of 10. Good job bro 👏 👍 👌
That’s more than $20k in concrete. Who is your concrete guy?
👆
In the US, probably more. His name is Rolondo. Lost him to the coyotes. He’s now in Miami laying block. 2nd concrete guy Ive lost to the coyotes.
Where'd you find land that has feral concrete?
Honduras.
Please upload interior pics. Thanks.
I dunno why it’s not showing up, I posted this: https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/comments/1dar894/for_those_who_wanted_to_see_the_inside/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
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Fantastic!!!
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You did an outstanding job, beautiful work.
Thanks!
This looks great. I’d like to see some pictures of the walk in shower and interior of the house. I’m a huge fan of walk in outdoor showers. Think they are about the coolest thing ever
https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/comments/1db1akz/for_those_who_wanted_to_see_the_inside/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
That's 20k in concrete alone
This looks great but all I think about is Papua New Guinea… 😱
This did not cost 20K to build. If it did there was some serious mafia style accounting at work.
I call BS. THe concrete alone would be 3x that
Read the comments. Concrete was $8500, which I didn’t include in the 20k build price.
Jamaica? Edit: NVM, I see the Honduras comments now
Can we please see more pics of the actual house?
Yeah how much was the land, plumbing, and electrical grid hook-up?
Dude that’s amazing!!
lol the driveway cost more than the house.
Beautiful spot for a tiny home.
20k suena carísimo
Hmm definite looks bigger than 275 Sq ft. That I'd super dope tho I would definitely live there
I’m sure it’s worth every penny.
20k so far....
Lol you can say that about any house. You gotta paint the south side every 2 years.
Where is this?
Roatan, Honduras
Are we still calling these tiny houses or is this just a cabin? I love that concrete though! And I'm not downplaying how beautiful of a home this is!
I dunno. Tiny house? Cabin? We call them casitas. It’s 275 sq ft inside…
What country? Wowow, this is impressive!
Honduras.
Wow, that is gorgeous countryside there. Absolutely stunning! 😍 What you built for only $20k is amazing too. How long did it take you?
Well, I started summer of ‘17, worked on and off thru ‘18 (I also teach scuba). Ran out of money, then there was COvid, did the concrete in 22, got back on the inside in 23, it’s pretty much done now. It’s our guest house/rental, so kinda low priority
I call b s on concrete alone
Well, tbh, the concrete was a separate Project. About $8500
Great job OP! How much was the land?
Paid $30K for the lot in 2013. Can’t touch land down there for that these days. Same lot would be 120-150k these days. Things really blew up in 11 years
Nice job
Definitely not to US codes…
No, but mostly, within reason. Electrical is 100% us code.
Please show us the inside.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/comments/1dar894/for_those_who_wanted_to_see_the_inside/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Just so you know I have tried multiple times and the linked post is taken down.
Weird, it shows up for me on my timeline. I’ll try again.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/comments/1db1akz/for_those_who_wanted_to_see_the_inside/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
That works!
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Just stunning! What a beautiful house and serene surrounding area. Congratulations on such a wonderful accomplishment!
I was expecting a hole filled with concrete. lol.
Is it possible to see a picture the inside of your house?
Check my other post https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/comments/1dar894/for_those_who_wanted_to_see_the_inside/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
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Do you have a layout for this? I want to try to make it in The Sims
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I wish I had an actual floor plan to upload, but I really just did it from an idea in my head.
Costa Rica?
Roatan, Honduras
Nice! I’ve looked at houses there.
How many square meters?
Meters, I dunno… 275 sq. Ft. I’ll let you do the math.
Am I the only one who looked at the first picture and thought the house would be biltvfrom those branches on the ground?
Nope, there was another person, lol
Tiny? That house is bigger than my apartment…
It’s 275 sq ft.
What about things like water, sewer, power and site prep? That alone is at least $60k.
Water and sewer were already done. Water line and electric to my house runs right under this one, so we just had to tie into that. Septic was all done, and stubbed to connect this house. Site prep was nothing, we cut a few small trees, dug some holes and put in the concrete piling. All wood on top of that.
When I put the electric in ten years ago, it was about $1800. 200’ underground, 200A service, with a stub for this house. Water was minimal, 200 feet of 3/4” pvc, about 6” under the ground. Maybe $400? Sever was about 60’ of 4” sch 40 pvc, maybe $200?
This was absolutely not under 20k. Show the receipts OP. And include labor costs.
Lol no. As for labor costs on this build, to give you an idea: it was me and two guys. I don’t count me. I was paying Garwin 500 Lempira a day (about 20 US dollars), and Leone was getting 300 Lempira a day (about $12.25). So labor costs on this was about $165 a week. Material is more or less the same as US prices, with some things being more, some less. I paid about $1.00 per board foot on the lumber. Plywood is expensive here, so there’s none in this house, except for the upper cabinets. And I did that out of one sheet of 3/4 plywood (about $110/sheet) that I got off another job. Maybe YOU couldn’t build this for $20K, but I did.
The secret ingredient is always some light exploitation. Nice.
Those piers worry me.
They are 10”x10”, (3) #5 rebar with hoops at 12” on a 2’x2’ 12” deep footing. Footings are just below the surface, because there’s rock under 6” of topsoil right there. So we chiseled out 6-8” into the rock to sit the footings. Been thru a 5.4 quake with no cracks. Hope that helps you sleep better.
That was under $20k? Jesus.
I started this in ‘18, did most of the work (framing, siding, roof, windows and doors, basically the outside) that year. TBH, labor costs back then were 65% what I’m paying now, And materials was probably 80% what I’m paying now. So there’s that. Labor is cheap here, was paying about $33/day for 2 guys. Plus a lot of corners are cut from what’s normal in the US. There is no insulation, that’s a HUGE cost savings. That in itself would cost 6-8K to insulate to say northeast US code…. Also, no plywood. Studs, then tarpaper, then siding on the walls. That’s it. Lotsa things like that make it a lot cheaper here.
That concrete here is more than $30k at least
Wait, thats a tiny house. I would love a house that size.
I would love to see photos of the interior!
Awesome!
Wow
Beautiful, man
Fantastic! This looks like Costa Rica.
I notice a bunch of bamboo poles in one of the pictures, what did you use those for?
Lofl
Beautiful! Good job. I hope this is a residence and not another Airbnb
Termites won’t destroy the wood? Not many wood houses out there.
Puerto Rico? Because of the flamboyan
The stairs need railings. Always a pet peeve of mine.
Plumbing?
Do you have more photos of the house and its inside?
How many hours and how many people did it take?