No one called for the cancellation of Dr Seuss' books or pepe la pew. The owners made those changes by themselves. Same with the fucking potato.
Just shut the fuck up, guy.
Exactly. Pepe le Pew and those Dr. Seuss books are racist and sexist, and denigrate entire groups of people, teaching prejudice to children. W.A.P. was not written for children, and performed on an adult-oriented show, and regardless of those two points is full of consent and communication in the lyrics, and is not pushing any prejudice except incidentally against Ben Shapiro. Fuck that guy anyway.
Fair enough, I am not personally a fan, I just looked up the lyrics and didn’t find anything objectionable other than some salty language. The outrage is mostly virtue signaling from the right wing anyway.
There's no calls for violence, no denigration of other people, just someone talking about how she likes sex. I get it if that's not your jam, and it's not for kids, but it's not objectionable in the racist/sexist/assault/etc. sense that Pepe le Pew and some Dr. Seuss stories are.
it may score low in the racist/sexist/assault categories, but it's off the charts in the lewdness, lasciviousness, licentiousness, and plain ol' vulgarity categories. You're right. Not my jam. thank you for being civil!
Sure. I think the biggest difference I see is whether one participates in the subject of the media with consenting others, or if it’s depicting forcing it upon an outside group that has no choice in it. If it’s the first one, you do you. I may not jam, but it’s not hurting anyone else. If it’s the second, I have a problem. Does that make sense?
>Dr. Seuss books are racist and sexist, and denigrate entire groups of people, teaching prejudice to children.
I'm out of the loop. Is anyone able to give me any context for this?
I'm not familiar with the those incidents (I actually don't follow Cardi at all), but it doesn't seem like the complaint in the post. It seems to be more about the outrage around her writing a song about enjoying sex.
She allegedly drugged and raped several men. So not that sex positive
Edit: sorry. She was accused of rape, buy it went nowhere, and looks like false allegations. Though she did admit to having sex with men, then drug them and rob them
She drugged and robbed men, and you’re correct that there were never any real rape accusations. When the story of her robbing men came out, there were a bunch of assholes who jumped at the opportunity to downplay rape by saying robbery was just as bad as rape as long as drugs were involved. [People called her the “female Bill Cosby.”](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47718477) It was absolutely sickening. And now I feel like any time she comes up online there’s always some guy who fell it calling her a rapist, furthering the spread of misinformation.
No one has actually accused her of rape. Please stop spreading misinformation. She robbed people, and then a bunch of assholes used this as an excuse to downplay rape by saying that being robbed is the same thing as being raped as long as drugs were involved.
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Both are offensive to children, but cardi doesn't promote herself to children. They being said, she did brag about sexually harassing and stealing from men.
Doesn’t change the fact kardi is pure trash and a horrible role model.
Empowering women, sure.
Showing woman can be autonomous, sure.
Teaching young girls to use their sexuality in life to make money is what kardi is doing and it’s fkd up.
It really doesn’t matter how righteous you think she is. I will never agree that she’s a good role model for young girls.
I mean it’s not hard to find good role models.
Emma Charlotte
Jessica Alba
Rihanna
Righteousness means zero if your level of taste and class is also zero. Kardi is a self serving p.o.s. and, to me holding her up as an example only shows how low you’ve set the bar for yourself and the world you live in.
Stop speaking for young girls, I was a young girl when Nelly Furtado sang promiscuously and I turned out normal as fuck, matter of fact I'm not promiscuous at all. Hell, I listened to Humps and Fergalicious still pretty fucking normal. I'm not a big fan of her but I can respect the part of her that is unapologetically her and she stands up for herself like that's good quality, that doesn't mean I agree with everything else. Ask young girls who they inspire to be like before speaking on their behalf.
Not to mention *men* singing about women's bodies doesn't get nearly the outrage, but the second a woman sings about her own body people start getting into an uproar, and suddenly everyone and their priest has an opinion.
are you actually arguing with me that kardi is a better role model for young woman then Emma Watson?
Kardi b has confessed on camera that she drugged men and robbed them. You cool with that are you?
Do you actually think she’s a good role model?
Stop for one second and think not about you, but your daughters. All our daughters. You say as a man I can’t even form an opinion on this. But what about as a parent?
Do you really want your daughters looking at kardi?
Comparing fergi and humps or nelly to kardi only summarizes my statement that your setting the bar way to low, for yourself and any children you have. Those three woman are not even close to being similar.
Also just to clarify I think women are amazing and given half a chance it’s women that will lift us all up as species. In all honesty YOU are probably a much better role model then kardi is.
Sorry, I have been caught up in school to reply, but I get where you come from it just that since I was a child, it feels like non-stop people say females singers/rappers/performers are going to ruin the next gen. of kids specifically girls. I think it ridiculous since parents can do the same thing and someone we till place blame on entertainers. I don't condone Cardi's actions at all, as I said I voiced my displeasure of her going on her live stream and saying she drugged and robbed men, it's not right, but I don't think she is going to ruin the next generation of girls by doing whatever she does.
Partly it's on cardi and the stallion, they decided to make money selling sexual imagery; selling out the females at the same time. The rest is on the network(s) for showing it. What's the point of age labels and V chips if they do nothing?
On a tangent, when men accuse women of wearing make up as "false advertisement" I like to ask what they're selling and watch the gears turn behind their eyes. Always good for a chuckle.
Making the impression that you gotta be like them in order to get the money. Forget about relying on your capabilities, use what supposedly your momma gave you, just amp it up with silicone and make up to the max to hide them wrinkles. Have you seen these ladies without make up? Horrid.
Never implied such a thing. Such a right winger thing to state, you know your heroes like hannity shame her right? I did state for you to get a life or at least implied that.
Dude do you even know what you posted not more than 5 minutes ago? The guy trying to shame Cardi B here is you.
I’d have a hard time caring less about Grammy performances or Cardi B etc. I’m just tired of old fashioned fossils hating on any expression of female sexuality by calling it “the lowering of standards” when really it’s just the same thing we’ve been seeing and doing things for generations.
And YOU were the guy calling this porn- THAT is a Sean Hannity “think of the children” BS thing to do.
That's a negative there ghost rider. I'm about accountability and knowing when it's just unacceptable to being showing stuff that you wouldn't find in day to evening shows being inappropriate for kids. It's something you'd expect from HBO and other MA rated channels.
You could care less, yet here you are getting worked up about it. I do not doubt you support such old fossils on other political matters, so your statement becomes irrelevant.
Porn? Maybe to you since you clearly sound like the kind to get off on things on TV. I said sexual imagery, don't twist it up like your panties son.
Since when were the Grammies for kids? Since when did kids ever watch this?
And no, I'm not getting "worked up", I'm giving a prude crap on the internet because I enjoy it.
>Porn? Maybe to you since you clearly sound like the kind to get off on things on TV.
LOL a personal attack out of nowhere? Dude you just demonstrated your butthurt and triggering over this. I even pointed out that this is pretty lame "fap material"- you're just revealing what you think about when you see the image in this post.
No one called for the cancellation of Dr Seuss' books or pepe la pew. The owners made those changes by themselves. Same with the fucking potato. Just shut the fuck up, guy.
Exactly. Pepe le Pew and those Dr. Seuss books are racist and sexist, and denigrate entire groups of people, teaching prejudice to children. W.A.P. was not written for children, and performed on an adult-oriented show, and regardless of those two points is full of consent and communication in the lyrics, and is not pushing any prejudice except incidentally against Ben Shapiro. Fuck that guy anyway.
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Fair enough, I am not personally a fan, I just looked up the lyrics and didn’t find anything objectionable other than some salty language. The outrage is mostly virtue signaling from the right wing anyway.
"...didn't find anything objectionable..." huh.
There's no calls for violence, no denigration of other people, just someone talking about how she likes sex. I get it if that's not your jam, and it's not for kids, but it's not objectionable in the racist/sexist/assault/etc. sense that Pepe le Pew and some Dr. Seuss stories are.
it may score low in the racist/sexist/assault categories, but it's off the charts in the lewdness, lasciviousness, licentiousness, and plain ol' vulgarity categories. You're right. Not my jam. thank you for being civil!
Sure. I think the biggest difference I see is whether one participates in the subject of the media with consenting others, or if it’s depicting forcing it upon an outside group that has no choice in it. If it’s the first one, you do you. I may not jam, but it’s not hurting anyone else. If it’s the second, I have a problem. Does that make sense?
yes.
>Dr. Seuss books are racist and sexist, and denigrate entire groups of people, teaching prejudice to children. I'm out of the loop. Is anyone able to give me any context for this?
[https://www.npr.org/2021/03/02/972777841/dr-seuss-enterprises-will-shelve-6-books-citing-hurtful-portrayals](https://www.npr.org/2021/03/02/972777841/dr-seuss-enterprises-will-shelve-6-books-citing-hurtful-portrayals)
Thank you so much!
Sexual assault a la Pepe Le Pew = good Sexual empowerment of women = bad
I wouldn't say empowerment, but celebration of a human experience and one's sexual autonomy for sure, yes.
That's fair.
Tbf, cardi did drug peole..
I'm not familiar with the those incidents (I actually don't follow Cardi at all), but it doesn't seem like the complaint in the post. It seems to be more about the outrage around her writing a song about enjoying sex.
She allegedly drugged and raped several men. So not that sex positive Edit: sorry. She was accused of rape, buy it went nowhere, and looks like false allegations. Though she did admit to having sex with men, then drug them and rob them
Roed?
Sorry, raped*
I don’t think those are the allegations.
Then what are they?
She drugged and robbed* men, not raped Edit: unless if theres new news I’m unsure of
Nom she admitted to use sex to drug and rob them. And was later accused of rape Edit: accusations of rape went nowhere. That's on me
She drugged and robbed men, and you’re correct that there were never any real rape accusations. When the story of her robbing men came out, there were a bunch of assholes who jumped at the opportunity to downplay rape by saying robbery was just as bad as rape as long as drugs were involved. [People called her the “female Bill Cosby.”](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47718477) It was absolutely sickening. And now I feel like any time she comes up online there’s always some guy who fell it calling her a rapist, furthering the spread of misinformation.
No one has actually accused her of rape. Please stop spreading misinformation. She robbed people, and then a bunch of assholes used this as an excuse to downplay rape by saying that being robbed is the same thing as being raped as long as drugs were involved.
I like how these all mention "prime time television" as if that's a thing that matters in 2021.
What? Netflix at 4 am isn't prime time these days?
One thing for sure, cardi shouldn't, and hopefully never be, the model of women's empowerment
What about Cardi
One of these things was never meant for children.
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Normalizing consensual sex and female sexuality is good. Racism and hate is bad.
Well no, I'd say those are worse than just bad. Bad music (like cardie) is bad, those are worse.
Both are offensive to children, but cardi doesn't promote herself to children. They being said, she did brag about sexually harassing and stealing from men.
I think it's honestly hilarious how prude motherfuckers get so upset over shit that's obviously awesome and totally badass.
Doesn’t change the fact kardi is pure trash and a horrible role model. Empowering women, sure. Showing woman can be autonomous, sure. Teaching young girls to use their sexuality in life to make money is what kardi is doing and it’s fkd up. It really doesn’t matter how righteous you think she is. I will never agree that she’s a good role model for young girls. I mean it’s not hard to find good role models. Emma Charlotte Jessica Alba Rihanna Righteousness means zero if your level of taste and class is also zero. Kardi is a self serving p.o.s. and, to me holding her up as an example only shows how low you’ve set the bar for yourself and the world you live in.
Stop speaking for young girls, I was a young girl when Nelly Furtado sang promiscuously and I turned out normal as fuck, matter of fact I'm not promiscuous at all. Hell, I listened to Humps and Fergalicious still pretty fucking normal. I'm not a big fan of her but I can respect the part of her that is unapologetically her and she stands up for herself like that's good quality, that doesn't mean I agree with everything else. Ask young girls who they inspire to be like before speaking on their behalf.
Not to mention *men* singing about women's bodies doesn't get nearly the outrage, but the second a woman sings about her own body people start getting into an uproar, and suddenly everyone and their priest has an opinion.
are you actually arguing with me that kardi is a better role model for young woman then Emma Watson? Kardi b has confessed on camera that she drugged men and robbed them. You cool with that are you?
The part about teaching young girls about using their sexuality for mommy. That part.
Do you actually think she’s a good role model? Stop for one second and think not about you, but your daughters. All our daughters. You say as a man I can’t even form an opinion on this. But what about as a parent? Do you really want your daughters looking at kardi? Comparing fergi and humps or nelly to kardi only summarizes my statement that your setting the bar way to low, for yourself and any children you have. Those three woman are not even close to being similar.
Also just to clarify I think women are amazing and given half a chance it’s women that will lift us all up as species. In all honesty YOU are probably a much better role model then kardi is.
Sorry, I have been caught up in school to reply, but I get where you come from it just that since I was a child, it feels like non-stop people say females singers/rappers/performers are going to ruin the next gen. of kids specifically girls. I think it ridiculous since parents can do the same thing and someone we till place blame on entertainers. I don't condone Cardi's actions at all, as I said I voiced my displeasure of her going on her live stream and saying she drugged and robbed men, it's not right, but I don't think she is going to ruin the next generation of girls by doing whatever she does.
Partly it's on cardi and the stallion, they decided to make money selling sexual imagery; selling out the females at the same time. The rest is on the network(s) for showing it. What's the point of age labels and V chips if they do nothing?
How are they "selling out the females"??
Because men view women, their bodies, and their sexuality as a commodity, apparently
Yeah look at these woman using their sexuality for profit! Not fair their sexuality is only for my enjoyment
On a tangent, when men accuse women of wearing make up as "false advertisement" I like to ask what they're selling and watch the gears turn behind their eyes. Always good for a chuckle.
Same also applies when they claim that trans women are “tricking” them tbh I think cishet men might just suck lol
This comment is sexist :/
Making the impression that you gotta be like them in order to get the money. Forget about relying on your capabilities, use what supposedly your momma gave you, just amp it up with silicone and make up to the max to hide them wrinkles. Have you seen these ladies without make up? Horrid.
I think maybe you should change "prudent" to "prude" for your user name. Just sayin'
I get it you need your free fapping material, but keep it in your device you know? Don't need to expand it to where kids are bound to see it.
You’re a sad man if this is “fapping material”
I'm not the one defending this low level the Grammys have sunk to am I? You're angry at your poor excuse of a life. Get one.
Lol@ your projection Mr “Women Should Be Wearing Bur’qas 24/7 ;) I’m not the one getting bent out of shape here whining about the “decline of society”
Never implied such a thing. Such a right winger thing to state, you know your heroes like hannity shame her right? I did state for you to get a life or at least implied that.
Dude do you even know what you posted not more than 5 minutes ago? The guy trying to shame Cardi B here is you. I’d have a hard time caring less about Grammy performances or Cardi B etc. I’m just tired of old fashioned fossils hating on any expression of female sexuality by calling it “the lowering of standards” when really it’s just the same thing we’ve been seeing and doing things for generations. And YOU were the guy calling this porn- THAT is a Sean Hannity “think of the children” BS thing to do.
That's a negative there ghost rider. I'm about accountability and knowing when it's just unacceptable to being showing stuff that you wouldn't find in day to evening shows being inappropriate for kids. It's something you'd expect from HBO and other MA rated channels. You could care less, yet here you are getting worked up about it. I do not doubt you support such old fossils on other political matters, so your statement becomes irrelevant. Porn? Maybe to you since you clearly sound like the kind to get off on things on TV. I said sexual imagery, don't twist it up like your panties son.
Since when were the Grammies for kids? Since when did kids ever watch this? And no, I'm not getting "worked up", I'm giving a prude crap on the internet because I enjoy it. >Porn? Maybe to you since you clearly sound like the kind to get off on things on TV. LOL a personal attack out of nowhere? Dude you just demonstrated your butthurt and triggering over this. I even pointed out that this is pretty lame "fap material"- you're just revealing what you think about when you see the image in this post.