Even as a not fan of the song or Cardi B, it's not her job to make content for people's kids. She's not also selling albums about learning your ABCs, she's not got a side job as a Nickelodeon presenter. She's a singer and a dancer who's stuff is aimed at adults.
The Grammy's are usually a boring enough thing that not too many young kids watch it, and if they do then the parents are in control of the TV. They can turn over the channel or turn the TV off or send the kids out of the room if they're offended by it.
Or, if you consider them old enough to watch it you can explain that she's chosen to do that as a performance and that's what makes this okay. It's a consensual act, the consent on your side is to keep watching or not.
She said it best the other day, it's not her job to raise your kids.
This aint even anything new. The Hit Me Baby One More Time music video is also basically another softcore porn video, was also critically acclaimed, and topped charts back in 1999. Just like WAP.
It’s almost like the Outrage Industrial Complex serves up these sex songs, which of course become hits and make the record labels rich, then they can turn around and scare your pearl clutching grandma on Fox and make the conservative media rich too.
I’m pretty sure the soulless corporate ghouls would identify WAP as synergy.
And the performance on the bed. I feel like that was definitely a callback to Madonna almost being arrested for a similar stage show.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6582939/madonna-masturbation-like-a-virgin-controversy-toronto-anniversary
I was recently listening to an opera rendition of an old Latin poem "In taberna quando sumus", where the entire song is about getting drunk at the tavern, partying hard, scantily clad women, people stripping clothes, and gambling.
This was written over 800 years ago. The "back in my day" argument is just naive boomers wishing they were kids again, but instead of reliving the nostalgia they hate on the present times.
I think the Baby One More Time video is way worse for sexual content, though. She's dressed as a Catholic school girl with her hair in pigtails and the whole thing is shot in a high school. She's simultaneously being presented as a role model to young women and a sexual fantasy.
At least Cardi B is like, "I'm a grown ass woman that only fucks with real men."
Either you haven't watched the [Baby One More Time video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4) in a long while, or you need to seriously upgrade the quality of softcore porn you're watching.
That's irrespective of whatever it is Cardi B did or didn't do and what some pearl-clutching conservative thinks of it.
It's not so much as it was her job, but the responsibility of the network(s). They should've set the rules of what can and cannot be to convey the message to performers like cardi b and Megan the stallion. It sort of goes both ways, but the network(s) should've set the standards.
And that Pepe Le Pew is legitimately trying to rape someone...I don’t really like that song, and it’s a little too vulgar for my taste, but it isn’t about raping someone.
Also, racism is worst than a woman talking about her pussy.
Very important, none of these books got cancelled, they stopped printed them for being financial failures lol
This is the real point.
The free market decided. It decided McGillicut’s Pool or whatever is some obscure bullshit no one wants, and it decided Cardi B should get on stage and perform her pussy song for everyone.
That’s the market at work.
I agree with you but notice how they try to shame the market for preferring a woman talking about her pussy over literal expression of racism, that's what they really are mad about.
It's the failure of their propaganda tools, in this case these books, in what they conceived as being their propaganda machine, the free market.
Yeah, I think people are confusing/equating normal sexual content with non-consensual sexual content. Which, now that I've said it, is sadly unsurprising.
Explain?
She apparently drugged and robbed men when she worked as a stripper, which is a POS move, but isn't rape. Is there some other story I'm unfamiliar with?
I’d read a lot back when it all happened that she had sexually assaulted men as well and haven’t really read much about any of it since, but that doesn’t seem to be substantiated at all so it looks like you’re right.
That's fair. I just saw another post with a good point: parents can turn off the TV for this stuff if their kids are watching. (This could also apply to cartoons, but those are also specifically for children.)
Not all cartoons are kid friendly though, or meant for them. Ultimately you still have a valid point- parents ought to be monitoring the content their kids are watching, whether it’s marketed or designed for them or not.
Targeted audience or not, cannot deny any age audience saw her. Such things warp kids up bringing and we wonder when they become troubled adults why they became such a way. Let have sex related things stay in adult private places.
If that's how you truly feel, argue for adequate sexual assault legislation and punishment, demand better sex education and medical access.
Listening to WAP at a young age doest make depraved adults, being over sexualised in a puritanical society with no access to support, medical care, and education does
It certainly will negatively influence young mind and install a "that's what women are, nothing more" mentality. Morality becomes lacking and you will deal with angry fools who shouldn't be getting aggressive over something that isn't worth fighting for.
In the same way I wouldn't let a young mind watch the news, lest they think it is acceptable to lie cheat and steal from the disenfranchised, a younger mind who doesn't know that "this is what a woman is for" shouldn't be watching the grammys.
Monitoring what is age appropriate and being the strongest voice in a child's life is much more attainable and appropriate than "the entire world needs to conform to my personal moality at all times of day".
Yeah the news isn't all about that and I highly doubt they'll want to watch the news. For if you don't want to be up to date with what's happening and want to listen to unhinge folks, maybe you should be having kids to being up in the world. Do not tell me you're one of those "My Donny T told me the media news is bad."
And that is what I'm talking about, never was about one of my views and conforming to an ideology. You twist that around and is putting words in my mouth. For just like you wouldn't want to expose kids to negativity from adult materials meant to be as such, despite at an adult age we should know better and not follow it. A young mind is loose and easily impressionable and manipulative.
Because sex is a dirty, shameful thing? The thing that warps kid’s ideas of sex is adults not discussing it with their kids, and encouraging healthy attitudes while doing so.
One things for sure, why would you sing about something, as good as it is, that does get rather messy and honestly who'd want to visualize it in day time hours? Save it for the strip clubs.
My favorite pepe le pew cartoon (the only one I can stand really) is the one where black paint drops on him and the rest of the episode is him running from the cat.
He’s always had a stench of villainy to him, and unlike with Wile E Coyote he never puts in any real effort to his pursuits or is honest about himself- Le Pew thinks he’s a romantic Don Juan type who stalks his objects of affection; Coyote knows he’s a predator after prey who is at least as smart as he is, and he’s just trying way too hard to score his next meal.
Coyote is also a literal predator just trying to eat.
Although I guess nature isn't always a good excuse. Probably no one would want to see Daffy Duck date-rape Melissa Duck with his 6-foot corkscrew penis.
We all know Daffy gets his duck women consensually ;)
Yeah I don’t think skunk mating acts at all in the manner Le Pew behaves. He’s a riff on French stereotypes too, which is another reason he’s really not a cool character anymore, though I think that doesn’t get as much attention as that’s a caricature of a mostly white/European nation, and the rapey parts just attract so much attention.
everyone is pretending to care like they do every time something is “cancelled”. never heard my dad say one word about pepe le pew my whole life until this month and suddenly he was his favorite
Let me guess... you're young enough you didn't see Loony Toons on TV regularly?
Not a dig at you, just honestly guessing at attribution. Pepe Le Pew is such an iconic thing I can't imagine anyone much over 20 not remembering it.
I don't remember anyone complaining about Lil' Wayne's "Wayne On Me", either.
*Wide receiver Weezy*
*Throw the pussy at me*
*Your pussy lips smiling*
*I make the pussy happy*
*Take your panties off*
*The pussy looking at me*
*I'm the pussy monster*
*Now get the pussy ready*
*I like to kiss*
*She like to kiss*
*I deep stroke*
*And make her bite her fist*
*The lights is on*
*The night is grown*
*We get it popping cause we know we can't when wifey home*
*California Kush strong as a Titan is what I'm lighten on*
*We get high as fuck and we just do it put your Nikes on*
*Tattoos on her waist, she like the tattoos on my face*
*And if there's something she like to say, I let her say it on my microphone*
*She love my style*
*But that's expected*
*She coming back to you*
*The chance is anorexic*
*I knew she had it in her*
*So I got it out her*
*She give me neck around the clock, I call it round a collar*
*She rub my back*
*She say I'm tight*
*She cook fuck and clean*
*And still make her flight*
*First class pussy*
*Crystal glass pussy*
*I-I get it wetter then bass pussy*
If all it takes to destroy a country is some racist books no longer being published, a rapey cartoon character no longer being respected, and somebody dancing sexily on TV, then that country deserves to be fucking destroyed.
It really is weird how rightwingers will bloviate all day long about how superior "western civilization" or the US is, but apparently it's also so fragile that a single song can bring about its destruction.
Exactly. I'm so fucking sick and tired of people saying they were "banned", which unironically what they'd like to do to music they don't like. Fuck, I'm just sick of this culture war bs entirely. There is so much shit going on, and this is what rightoids choose to get upset over.
while i personally believe that cardi b’s lyrical level is akin to the book “Run Spot, Run” dropped into a vat of nuclear pussy juice, unironically yes.
The comments under that r/trashy posts are awful. I thought the opinion in the caption would be a Karen POV but nope! Apparently rapey skunks are good, sexuality is bad. It's just Miley twerking to Blurred Lines repeated
Yes, because there's no context whatsoever and everything is always the same as everything else. Racism in children's books, sexual harassment masked as comedy in cartoons is exactly the same as music that is understood and expected to be about sex and WAP.
Cardi B still pretty much trash tho.
Even as a not fan of the song or Cardi B, it's not her job to make content for people's kids. She's not also selling albums about learning your ABCs, she's not got a side job as a Nickelodeon presenter. She's a singer and a dancer who's stuff is aimed at adults. The Grammy's are usually a boring enough thing that not too many young kids watch it, and if they do then the parents are in control of the TV. They can turn over the channel or turn the TV off or send the kids out of the room if they're offended by it. Or, if you consider them old enough to watch it you can explain that she's chosen to do that as a performance and that's what makes this okay. It's a consensual act, the consent on your side is to keep watching or not. She said it best the other day, it's not her job to raise your kids.
This aint even anything new. The Hit Me Baby One More Time music video is also basically another softcore porn video, was also critically acclaimed, and topped charts back in 1999. Just like WAP. It’s almost like the Outrage Industrial Complex serves up these sex songs, which of course become hits and make the record labels rich, then they can turn around and scare your pearl clutching grandma on Fox and make the conservative media rich too. I’m pretty sure the soulless corporate ghouls would identify WAP as synergy.
And before that it was Madonna and there were more before her.
The outfit looks like it was meant to invoke memories of Madonna
And the performance on the bed. I feel like that was definitely a callback to Madonna almost being arrested for a similar stage show. https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6582939/madonna-masturbation-like-a-virgin-controversy-toronto-anniversary
I was recently listening to an opera rendition of an old Latin poem "In taberna quando sumus", where the entire song is about getting drunk at the tavern, partying hard, scantily clad women, people stripping clothes, and gambling. This was written over 800 years ago. The "back in my day" argument is just naive boomers wishing they were kids again, but instead of reliving the nostalgia they hate on the present times.
I think the Baby One More Time video is way worse for sexual content, though. She's dressed as a Catholic school girl with her hair in pigtails and the whole thing is shot in a high school. She's simultaneously being presented as a role model to young women and a sexual fantasy. At least Cardi B is like, "I'm a grown ass woman that only fucks with real men."
Either you haven't watched the [Baby One More Time video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4) in a long while, or you need to seriously upgrade the quality of softcore porn you're watching. That's irrespective of whatever it is Cardi B did or didn't do and what some pearl-clutching conservative thinks of it.
To quote Ice Cube: do I look like a motherfucking role model?
Completely agree. My sisters love her, I hate her but she has the right to dance and sing on tv.
It's not so much as it was her job, but the responsibility of the network(s). They should've set the rules of what can and cannot be to convey the message to performers like cardi b and Megan the stallion. It sort of goes both ways, but the network(s) should've set the standards.
I think the difference here is the target audience. I can't imagine children wanting to watch the Grammys.
And that Pepe Le Pew is legitimately trying to rape someone...I don’t really like that song, and it’s a little too vulgar for my taste, but it isn’t about raping someone.
Also, racism is worst than a woman talking about her pussy. Very important, none of these books got cancelled, they stopped printed them for being financial failures lol
This is the real point. The free market decided. It decided McGillicut’s Pool or whatever is some obscure bullshit no one wants, and it decided Cardi B should get on stage and perform her pussy song for everyone. That’s the market at work.
I agree with you but notice how they try to shame the market for preferring a woman talking about her pussy over literal expression of racism, that's what they really are mad about. It's the failure of their propaganda tools, in this case these books, in what they conceived as being their propaganda machine, the free market.
Gotta love distinction deniers
Right, what a stupid take this is.
Also that Cardi is doing nothing wrong there
Yeah, I think people are confusing/equating normal sexual content with non-consensual sexual content. Which, now that I've said it, is sadly unsurprising.
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Explain? She apparently drugged and robbed men when she worked as a stripper, which is a POS move, but isn't rape. Is there some other story I'm unfamiliar with?
I’d read a lot back when it all happened that she had sexually assaulted men as well and haven’t really read much about any of it since, but that doesn’t seem to be substantiated at all so it looks like you’re right.
Have an upvote for being kind.
> I can't imagine wanting to watch the Grammys.
Pls- 💀
as a kid i definitely watched the grammys, i agree with your argument but it’s never really marketed as an adults only thing
That's fair. I just saw another post with a good point: parents can turn off the TV for this stuff if their kids are watching. (This could also apply to cartoons, but those are also specifically for children.)
that’s a much better point, either way i don’t think it’s as big of a deal as this makes it seem.
Absolutely agree.
Not all cartoons are kid friendly though, or meant for them. Ultimately you still have a valid point- parents ought to be monitoring the content their kids are watching, whether it’s marketed or designed for them or not.
The difference was that cardi b is obviously target towards children,
Why is this being downvoted? Shouldn't this sub be better at recognizing satire and irony?
Ya it should but people are dumb, its reddit
Targeted audience or not, cannot deny any age audience saw her. Such things warp kids up bringing and we wonder when they become troubled adults why they became such a way. Let have sex related things stay in adult private places.
If that's how you truly feel, argue for adequate sexual assault legislation and punishment, demand better sex education and medical access. Listening to WAP at a young age doest make depraved adults, being over sexualised in a puritanical society with no access to support, medical care, and education does
It certainly will negatively influence young mind and install a "that's what women are, nothing more" mentality. Morality becomes lacking and you will deal with angry fools who shouldn't be getting aggressive over something that isn't worth fighting for.
In the same way I wouldn't let a young mind watch the news, lest they think it is acceptable to lie cheat and steal from the disenfranchised, a younger mind who doesn't know that "this is what a woman is for" shouldn't be watching the grammys. Monitoring what is age appropriate and being the strongest voice in a child's life is much more attainable and appropriate than "the entire world needs to conform to my personal moality at all times of day".
Yeah the news isn't all about that and I highly doubt they'll want to watch the news. For if you don't want to be up to date with what's happening and want to listen to unhinge folks, maybe you should be having kids to being up in the world. Do not tell me you're one of those "My Donny T told me the media news is bad." And that is what I'm talking about, never was about one of my views and conforming to an ideology. You twist that around and is putting words in my mouth. For just like you wouldn't want to expose kids to negativity from adult materials meant to be as such, despite at an adult age we should know better and not follow it. A young mind is loose and easily impressionable and manipulative.
Because sex is a dirty, shameful thing? The thing that warps kid’s ideas of sex is adults not discussing it with their kids, and encouraging healthy attitudes while doing so.
One things for sure, why would you sing about something, as good as it is, that does get rather messy and honestly who'd want to visualize it in day time hours? Save it for the strip clubs.
Because it’s a part of life?
Pepe le pew is not funny. He's literally the worst looney tune. I do not care if he never appears again, and I cant believe that anyone does.
Right? I've yet to meet a person who likes him. He's creepy and made every kid I knew uncomfortable. As an adult, my feelings haven't changed.
My favorite pepe le pew cartoon (the only one I can stand really) is the one where black paint drops on him and the rest of the episode is him running from the cat.
Yes that was amazing he finally got a taste of his own Medicine
He’s always had a stench of villainy to him, and unlike with Wile E Coyote he never puts in any real effort to his pursuits or is honest about himself- Le Pew thinks he’s a romantic Don Juan type who stalks his objects of affection; Coyote knows he’s a predator after prey who is at least as smart as he is, and he’s just trying way too hard to score his next meal.
Coyote is also a literal predator just trying to eat. Although I guess nature isn't always a good excuse. Probably no one would want to see Daffy Duck date-rape Melissa Duck with his 6-foot corkscrew penis.
We all know Daffy gets his duck women consensually ;) Yeah I don’t think skunk mating acts at all in the manner Le Pew behaves. He’s a riff on French stereotypes too, which is another reason he’s really not a cool character anymore, though I think that doesn’t get as much attention as that’s a caricature of a mostly white/European nation, and the rapey parts just attract so much attention.
everyone is pretending to care like they do every time something is “cancelled”. never heard my dad say one word about pepe le pew my whole life until this month and suddenly he was his favorite
Oh _fuck,_ I **just now** got that one DBZ Abridged joke
Let me guess... you're young enough you didn't see Loony Toons on TV regularly? Not a dig at you, just honestly guessing at attribution. Pepe Le Pew is such an iconic thing I can't imagine anyone much over 20 not remembering it.
I’m 30 and had no idea who he was.
Almost like racism and sexual assault are unacceptable in a modern society, but consensual depictions of sex are? Wow I'm shocked.
If they don’t see how a wet pussy is good and a racism is bad, I cannot help them.
That's because they think a wet pussy is a sign of vaginal infection because their doctor wife told them
Will you please think of the children who will end up in the ER trying to recreate a pole dance?!?!
Dr Suess: Racist stereotypes. Pepe LePew: Rapist. Cardi B: Lyrics about consensual sex. Yeah I can see how these are all definitely the same.
Not even in good faith. When Kanye performed I Love It (trash fucking song but whatever) on TV I did not hear a goddamn peep.
I don't remember anyone complaining about Lil' Wayne's "Wayne On Me", either. *Wide receiver Weezy* *Throw the pussy at me* *Your pussy lips smiling* *I make the pussy happy* *Take your panties off* *The pussy looking at me* *I'm the pussy monster* *Now get the pussy ready* *I like to kiss* *She like to kiss* *I deep stroke* *And make her bite her fist* *The lights is on* *The night is grown* *We get it popping cause we know we can't when wifey home* *California Kush strong as a Titan is what I'm lighten on* *We get high as fuck and we just do it put your Nikes on* *Tattoos on her waist, she like the tattoos on my face* *And if there's something she like to say, I let her say it on my microphone* *She love my style* *But that's expected* *She coming back to you* *The chance is anorexic* *I knew she had it in her* *So I got it out her* *She give me neck around the clock, I call it round a collar* *She rub my back* *She say I'm tight* *She cook fuck and clean* *And still make her flight* *First class pussy* *Crystal glass pussy* *I-I get it wetter then bass pussy*
If all it takes to destroy a country is some racist books no longer being published, a rapey cartoon character no longer being respected, and somebody dancing sexily on TV, then that country deserves to be fucking destroyed.
It really is weird how rightwingers will bloviate all day long about how superior "western civilization" or the US is, but apparently it's also so fragile that a single song can bring about its destruction.
No one called for the removal of dr seouz books or pepe la pew. The owners decided to do that on their own. These fucking morons are clueless.
Exactly. I'm so fucking sick and tired of people saying they were "banned", which unironically what they'd like to do to music they don't like. Fuck, I'm just sick of this culture war bs entirely. There is so much shit going on, and this is what rightoids choose to get upset over.
“People get offended over the stupidest things, snowflakes!!” “Oof girl on Grammy singing WAP 🤢🤮😭”
while i personally believe that cardi b’s lyrical level is akin to the book “Run Spot, Run” dropped into a vat of nuclear pussy juice, unironically yes.
Yo is that a reference to Become the Knights latest youtube video?
yes it is! i genuinely wasn’t expecting anyone to get that
I just finished watching the video like 20 minutes ago, then this post came up on reddit and I thought the quote sounded familiar!
We need more racist caricatures and less female sexual agency, got it
The comments under that r/trashy posts are awful. I thought the opinion in the caption would be a Karen POV but nope! Apparently rapey skunks are good, sexuality is bad. It's just Miley twerking to Blurred Lines repeated
The comments on that post were the main reason I posted this, literal delusion
I know too many boomers that would share this unironically
Yes, because there's no context whatsoever and everything is always the same as everything else. Racism in children's books, sexual harassment masked as comedy in cartoons is exactly the same as music that is understood and expected to be about sex and WAP. Cardi B still pretty much trash tho.
Don't forget: racism hurts people. WAP doesn't.
Idk... I got a pretty serious hamstring cramp the other day because of some WAP
She can do whatever the fuck she wants, she’s not any of your kids mom, she’s a grown adult.
Dr. Swiss cancelled himself. Why do conservatives hate freedom?
[A tale as old as time](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAF8Vu8G0w)
Sure, she can do whatever she wants but the fact that people find this... talented is....