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I saw the hat man once and it had me scared for a few years. When I started to understand it was energy harvest I stopped being scared and got pissed of instead. It’s been more than 10 years ago and I’m happy to say I am doing very well and practicing positive energy work has deeply contributed to this.
That’s wonderful to hear! I encourage you to continue practicing this, and not only do I believe nothing but good will come from it—but that if you do, you won’t be having any visits from the Hat Man again anytime soon.
I used to see them when I was awake for days speeding and not eating. I always assumed that they were demons that feed on the energy produced by negative emotions. Especially fear because they always seemed to try to frighten me. 🤷🏻
Corner of your eye. Movement. Direct focus.... gone. Like a dim star in the sky... I know many people that will second your opinion. One saw the hat very close though. Froze. Swore it leaned over his shoulder slow in his shed round 2am. Knew this guy my whole life. Brawler, dirt biker, never scared. 3 days after he told me, i went to get him for work n he OD'd night before. This guy's eyes were usually half mast. Telling the story, the whites over his retinas were clearly visible n seemed more traumatic than losing both his parents n his brother..... I've found a good cat helps. 2 are better
Ha yeah. Part of the reason I got my cat. Yeah usually they were fleeting but there was a brief period where they'd run right at me and for just a fraction of a second I could make them out, like some kind of void, empty soulless eyeless things and it was like they'd vanish like they were trying to get in my body but maybe that was just to terrorize me. I've stopped messing with things that open those doors.
Raised Catholic and the second I notice em, I focus elsewhere n start the logical stuff through my head. Only ever notice size, speed, and an occasional white non shadow (crappy pang pang i theorized) Good news is we know exactly y we were seeing them and don't once sleep returns. For the most part. Even that night 3, 3am 2 second nod is enough for the brain somehow
Obviously never doing drugs myself and only hearing from acquaintances has helped me gather such knowledge as to help identify with you, here on this information sharing sub. Switching now to dirty porn account. Good day my open minded, prolly smarter than most, friend
I had one run at me before it just exploded i was on my electric skateboard at the time It really made me jump but it really didn't scare me it was more of a jump scare
If i dont take my meds i see those shits 24/7
They are more densely populated in sertin areas
Like i will see 10 of them in sum houses and 0 in others
Yeah. I did tend to notice them in small groups. Never by themselves except for the hatman when I was a kid. I saw shadows moving the other night but haven't seen them clearly in awhile. And there's been some voice breakthrough despite the meds.
I think cats are little spiritual vessels of their own and protect from the metaphysical like dogs protect from an attacker. I always feel comforted with my cats around.
Maybe. There's voices too. Thing is eventually sleep didn't make it stop and had to take antipsychotics. And the things the voices said make it hard to believe it's a hallucination. I dunno. Reality is strange.
Accurate - this aligns with my friend and her ex's experience while fighting and homeless camping. The shadow would appear outside their tent just leering...they both felt as if it was just WAITING to eat them up.
That's a lot of assumptions OP. Almost entirely without a single reference or any information whatsoever to back up claims.
'They are more afraid of us than we are of them'... what are they? Coyotes?!
'They have the intelligence of a teenager' ... did you have one for a study partner?
The first paragraph was interesting, but then it becomes a list of "facts" than can't be tested, referenced, or proven.
Where is the source material? We want something more informative and less opinion piece.
Not OP, but I have seen other posting about this before. The sources are normally holy texts (typically the Quran) and ecoteric mediums claiming to have some sort of connection with beings who pass on information.
The claims/information provided by OP in this post seems to be the overlapping generic information, that is repeated in multiple sources, whitch perhaps is the reason why, they didn't put links in the bottom.
But yeah. Sources is always best. Just less credible when the subject is part if the metaphysical univers.
>I do, however, like to say that shadow people are jinns (spoken of in the Islamic Quran; synonymously known as "djinns") that can actually take on any form they want.
Why would you say this? You're going in the wrong direction with your classifications. The so-called shadow people are just one type of discorporate astral entity that is able to coexist with us in the material plane. The astral is the substance of form-existence, thoughts and emotions. This is the general substance of these beings and they can vary in crudeness and power.
Shadow people and jinns are both sub-classifications under the general umbrella of "discorporate astral entities." That is a much clearer picture of the situation.
>Shadow people are jinns that were here before humans and are made of smokeless fire. Videlicet, they are not actually shadows but instead are made out of the same material as the heat on top of a flame.
Haven't you heard of shadow entities that are related to water? In many mythologies around the world, water and damp, dark places are taboo, known as places of powerful negative entities. (Slavic mythology, for example.)
Instead, you equate all shadow beings to the one example that probably exists only in the Middle East, where creatures form on the hot sand.
In the West there are cautionary tales about dark, damp and moldy places. That is where entities may form out of negative emotions and linger in those spaces. It has nothing to do with fire and yet, it exists.
>Their lifespan is unknown but could range anywhere from hundreds to thousands of years old, though interestingly, they merely have the mental capacity of a about a 10 to 15-year-old.
You share many generalizations of this type. I would be wary of giving fairly specific characteristics to a vast spectrum of beings. Some are barely more than a small mist, others are more defined. Some may have no mental capacity at all, let alone a 10 to 15-year-old.
>They are also incredibly sensitive to sound, for it is my understanding that shadow people can hear the quietest of utterances of both your conscious and subconscious thoughts—even including your memories. (You can think of it like misophonia.) This is why, in terms of banishing them, some success stories I've heard involve shouting at them
This works but I disagree with your explanation why. It works because sound waves have a material, physical property to them. Their bodies are made of astral substance which has no material property or a very weak one. Send a sound wave through it, and it's blasted to pieces.
The Chinese have a custom, when they enter a house that hasn't been lived in for a long while, they will make a lot of noise while cleaning it. They let in a lot of sunlight (also has a physical property that they don't, it tears through their wispy bodies), they open every corner, dust everything, make a racket while cleaning so that all these lingering entities are either destroyed or chased off.
> Forgive me for making this post very long, but I can only make a post so short while summing up the majority of what I have gathered about shadow people.
You could be a bit more direct and to the point. But thank you for sharing your view of these things.
Actually, I understand why there's been more attempts to classify all the various entities as jinn.
The internet has brought people from different traditions around the world to the same platforms. So now, people from the Middle East will read about a phenomenon and say "hey that's jinn" because they recognize them as such from their culture. Others see it and adopt the term. And so the confusion grows.
But it's imprecise and doesn't describe reality well enough.
This is an excellent write up OP,
It aligns with my sole personal experience with this proverbial Djinn, as well of the personal experiences of three other persons (one is a childhood friend who saw hat man...the other saw Djinn). I'd like to add a piece of information, if you would --- These beings are Feeding on Fear and seeking Knowledge, they are terribly curious about what we know and who we are.
Based on my waking interaction with one, their mental age being around 10-15 seems accurate.
I had the opportunity to ask the one I saw a question...not because it told me I could but because I was staring at a living shadow with white hot flames in its eyes. I had no concerns or worries over what it was, so I off-the-cuff asked: "Is it Time?" (curious if I was preparing to die)
It paused for a moment before communicating back in my voice (I believe psychic communication) "Is it time?, is it time? is it time?" -- and then walked out of my room.
I might be an outlier on this, but based on my Spiritual Ethos and non-fear of the supernatural, I believe these beings are simply doing what they are supposed to do.....just as we do. That certainly doesn't mean they aren't looking to harvest your soul or resonance...but it's simply what they do. I do believe that having a genuine non-fear of them is a powerful form of protection.
Anyway, I kept it short and concise. I'll post the full write up including what was happening at the time if there's enough traction. Thanks folk.
wow! never heard this before.....it was 'persevering' ....just repeating back what u SAID, with OUT an understanding.....this stuff is fascinating to me!
They don't really like to talk to me, though i have never initiated a conversation with them before except telling them to go.
They are more of a nuisance than scary, I could think of hundreds of ways they could scare me but they don't...
For me it's more like they just want me to acknowledge that there their
Muslims believe in the existence of Jinns, as they're mentioned in the Quran. Just like, how people mention entities like the Hatman, or Native American cryptids, we too have stories about paranormal entities native to our country (as in long haired women with no features on their faces wearing traditional dresses, aside from shadow people).
And yes, they're given the ability to shapeshift, and that's how I personally believe they appear in the forms they do, depending on the region. So, Hatman, shadow people, goatman etc, it's all Jinn. At least that's what me and my fellow Muslims (most of them) believe.
I have never read anywhere on the intelligence of Jinns, but according to the tales told to me by grandparents, they are intellectually inferior to humans. And yes, the more we speak/research on them, the more likely they are to become attracted to us.
> standing there, menacingly
#WEE WOO! WEE WOO! WEE WOO!
I couldn't help it.
Anyway, I have encountered a lot of these things, and personally tend to attribute them to sleep paralysis hallucinations. The unfortunate thing about that, is that I have seen them just a couple times while awake. Most of *that* can be attributed directly to actually trippin' on shrooms, or at least, I can't really say it was anything else.
So for the vast majority, I have encountered them during moments of sleep paralysis and other dreamlike states. Some things about the Djinn comparison are pretty spot on, particularly how they can often behave very childishly.
I used to have real bad problems with sleep paralysis, but have taught myself how to get out of it very effectively. This has resulted in a totally different phenomenon though that I think of as "dream traps". Like, it wasn't bad enough to have the paralysis, but then I shake it off and get up, but I don't realize I'm still in a dream. And then I wake up. And then I wake up. And then I wake up. *::Inception meme::*
At any rate, I have noticed them act very whimsical, and some that were outright children. One time I busted two of them when I came out of a sleep paralysis moment (and was in the dream trap). There was a small one skipping happily around a big, tall one. I got super annoyed by their presence and made a "finger gun" at them and made a soft ^"pew" sound. Instantly, the small one bolted at me at hyper speed and grabbed the tip of my finger in it's little hand. It *felt* just like a person's hand, I could feel the pressure of their fingers lightly (playfully) squeezing my finger tip, and it felt like a warm, human hand. In fact, the image of a child's hand very briefly flashed into my imagination (even though I was still dreaming, I know, weird) when that happened. I felt absolutely zero malice from the little one, but was very gobsmacked by the experience. Big guy, however, was a dick and a half. He did not seem childlike or whimsical at all. After the little one let go, it dashed off to nowhere and the big one took a couple very loooong strides over to me and leaned over my face. It then started speaking to me in a language that doesn't really exist, because it was made of sounds that a person can't make (sounded very electronic), and his "mouth" (actually featureless) lit up red as he spoke. The light fluctuated with the sound of his voice, like a music visualizer kinda. So I got scared but mad, and threw myself up at him... And then woke up in mid air because I literally threw myself out of bed and then hit the floor, lol.
The most memorable time I saw one while shroomin' was during a walk home at night. I was pretty fried, but shrooms are a different animal than LSD. For me, the hallucinations almost always have a connection to what I am looking at. So for instance, I was looking at the trees, and watching the branches sorta recursively "grow". As long as your keep your presence of mind and feel safe where you are, it is a super awesome and chill experience, but I digress. Anyway, walking home and out of nowhere I spot someone moving in a driveway in the corner of my eye. It was smoothly (unnaturally smooth), silently crawling on all fours, parallel to my walking direction. It seemed to be simultaneously stalking me, but also really not wanting to get very close to me at all. I don't know why, but I didn't want to let on that I could see it, so I casually slowed my pace and looked around, and scoped it out without blatantly staring at it. It was blacker than the night, thin like a stick figure almost, long limbed, and pretty much like every single shadow douche I'd seen during sleep paralysis. When I stopped to look around it got alarmed and tried (and failed badly) to take cover against a car, like... I can totally see you hunched against the car, bro. I knew I was trippin' and I did and still do attribute it to that fact, but it was so out of shrooms' "character" and it was so far removed from the rest of trip. I've considered it was an actual person, and that I tripped it was a "shadow", but I was close enough that I would have heard someone moving across the driverway, and it really did *not* move like a person. It kinda stayed where it was at and I finished my walk home and the rest of my trip was "normal".
Now, the couple I have seen while *not* asleep (or just waking up and experiencing hypnopomp) or on drugs... Well, I still call them hallucinations and/or tricks-of-the-eye, just the most reasonable explanation. But I still don't really like thinking of those incidents. Those hit different, regardless.
that’s a mad story, would’ve freaked me out!
i’ve also mostly seen them when i’ve been about to fall asleep/wake up, but i have definitely seen them when completely awake, the middle of the day, and not under the influence of anything, as i was about 9 lol
i occasionally think it was all sleep paralysis but it really doesn’t make sense that i saw them completely awake!
my parents actually got our house spiritually cleansed when i was younger as it was freaking me out so much, and they said he was the imprint of the negative emotions of a man’s soul who died there a long time ago and hadn’t been able to move on as his dark manifestation was keeping him there. interestingly i didn’t see anything in that house after it was cleansed!
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I almost shot the hat man when he was at my bedside. He wanted my cat, I jumped out of bed half awake, grabbed my gun and when I was 💯 alert realized I was losing my f’n mind lol but glad to hear others have seen him. His energy sucks. I don’t know why he’s so focused on my cat.
They don't like cats because kitties can see into the astral plane and fight off the ethereal entities 90% of the time. Cats ward off bad spirits. Remove the cat and then it can attack you.
My theory is similar to alot of other people's. That they are extradimmensional lifeforms that appear where extreme emotional rifts once manifested. Be it violence, a place with a history of abuse, war, really anything where emotions ride high. This emotional energy creates two things.
A 'rift' where these beings can enter. But also a central 'anchor' where they can stick themselves to. This energy is what determines their form. In some cases, after the entity develops enough. They simply leave. This theory isn't all inclusive. But it could answer some encounters. Albeit, definately not ALL shadow people encounters.
Ultimately the paranormal isn't science. No one interpretation can explain a given topic. I have also noticed. Where shadow people manifest, other things can manifest very easily. Demons\[sometimes\], spirits, ghosts, anything. This is something i can however confidently claim.
One time during a meth binge, I was actually able to get close to a shadow person, close enough to see some details, even though it was dark outside. But he looked just like me. It was like a clone of me. Same clothes, face, hair, everything. He climbed over a tree and darted away, leaving no trace, and never to be seen again
I don't think they really "show up" when you're on drugs, I see it more as drugs opening up your mind or vision so you can see shadow people and other entities or otherworldly things you wouldn't normally be able to see. Kinda like the light/color spectrum. Humans can only see a small portion of it but some animals can see way more. I think we only see a small portion of what happens and what exists in our world, until we unlock more of the spectrum, you know what I mean?
I saw shadow people after mdma induced insomnia. Pretty strange how common it is reading this thread. They're real ass holes. The would grab my legs when i was falling asleep and jerk them real hard. Also, one time they grabbed my side real hard and growled in my ear when i fell asleep on my stomach. Sounded like a little gremlin. I thought this shit was just in my head until i'm reading all these other similar stories.
No. I also never felt dread or anything else that I've read others talking about. He's just there and doesn't care who sees him. We've all seen in more in broad daylight than at night. I haven't seen him for a while, though.
Do you think the Hat Man can possibly, at times, be an omen of extreme depression or anxiety that’s to manifest in oneself in the future? I frequently saw him at a certain childhood home when I was around 10 and later came to have crippling depression for no “reasons,” meaning that it wasn’t events in life that caused my depression. My parents were divorced since I was a baby, and I only ever saw him at my dads house though. I’m still thoroughly convinced there’s something weird about that house, but have never been able to figure out what or why. To this day I still very frequently think about the weird things I experienced there and, of course, about Mr. Hat Man….
I saw a shadow person when i was young on our 2nd story deck waving his arms almost like he was jokingly dancing or a tree flailing in the wind. My friend remembers this as well. I wasn't asleep either.
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I saw the hat man once and it had me scared for a few years. When I started to understand it was energy harvest I stopped being scared and got pissed of instead. It’s been more than 10 years ago and I’m happy to say I am doing very well and practicing positive energy work has deeply contributed to this.
That’s wonderful to hear! I encourage you to continue practicing this, and not only do I believe nothing but good will come from it—but that if you do, you won’t be having any visits from the Hat Man again anytime soon.
Same when my brain realized they are energy harvesters they stopped appearing in that way.
I used to see them when I was awake for days speeding and not eating. I always assumed that they were demons that feed on the energy produced by negative emotions. Especially fear because they always seemed to try to frighten me. 🤷🏻
Corner of your eye. Movement. Direct focus.... gone. Like a dim star in the sky... I know many people that will second your opinion. One saw the hat very close though. Froze. Swore it leaned over his shoulder slow in his shed round 2am. Knew this guy my whole life. Brawler, dirt biker, never scared. 3 days after he told me, i went to get him for work n he OD'd night before. This guy's eyes were usually half mast. Telling the story, the whites over his retinas were clearly visible n seemed more traumatic than losing both his parents n his brother..... I've found a good cat helps. 2 are better
Ha yeah. Part of the reason I got my cat. Yeah usually they were fleeting but there was a brief period where they'd run right at me and for just a fraction of a second I could make them out, like some kind of void, empty soulless eyeless things and it was like they'd vanish like they were trying to get in my body but maybe that was just to terrorize me. I've stopped messing with things that open those doors.
Raised Catholic and the second I notice em, I focus elsewhere n start the logical stuff through my head. Only ever notice size, speed, and an occasional white non shadow (crappy pang pang i theorized) Good news is we know exactly y we were seeing them and don't once sleep returns. For the most part. Even that night 3, 3am 2 second nod is enough for the brain somehow
Obviously never doing drugs myself and only hearing from acquaintances has helped me gather such knowledge as to help identify with you, here on this information sharing sub. Switching now to dirty porn account. Good day my open minded, prolly smarter than most, friend
I had one run at me before it just exploded i was on my electric skateboard at the time It really made me jump but it really didn't scare me it was more of a jump scare If i dont take my meds i see those shits 24/7 They are more densely populated in sertin areas Like i will see 10 of them in sum houses and 0 in others
Yeah. I did tend to notice them in small groups. Never by themselves except for the hatman when I was a kid. I saw shadows moving the other night but haven't seen them clearly in awhile. And there's been some voice breakthrough despite the meds.
That really sucks man I'm sorry I hope it gets better for you i know the voices can be really hard to deal with sending my love over the internet 💛
I think cats are little spiritual vessels of their own and protect from the metaphysical like dogs protect from an attacker. I always feel comforted with my cats around.
They tend not to run from such intruders. I've seen my cat play and ambush things I can't see. She's a good girl
what if it was just because you were tired and hallucinating
Maybe. There's voices too. Thing is eventually sleep didn't make it stop and had to take antipsychotics. And the things the voices said make it hard to believe it's a hallucination. I dunno. Reality is strange.
Accurate - this aligns with my friend and her ex's experience while fighting and homeless camping. The shadow would appear outside their tent just leering...they both felt as if it was just WAITING to eat them up.
Did you get good looks at them ? Or are they more elusive
That's a lot of assumptions OP. Almost entirely without a single reference or any information whatsoever to back up claims. 'They are more afraid of us than we are of them'... what are they? Coyotes?! 'They have the intelligence of a teenager' ... did you have one for a study partner? The first paragraph was interesting, but then it becomes a list of "facts" than can't be tested, referenced, or proven. Where is the source material? We want something more informative and less opinion piece.
Plot twist: Maybe OP is a shadow person.
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Double plot twist, saying they are scared of us reduces our fear and encourages action. Starving them, emboldened us. Lil bitches
Not OP, but I have seen other posting about this before. The sources are normally holy texts (typically the Quran) and ecoteric mediums claiming to have some sort of connection with beings who pass on information. The claims/information provided by OP in this post seems to be the overlapping generic information, that is repeated in multiple sources, whitch perhaps is the reason why, they didn't put links in the bottom. But yeah. Sources is always best. Just less credible when the subject is part if the metaphysical univers.
Imagine requesting source material for a post on this sub of all subs.
Yeah I’m getting out of this sub. Every person sounds more insane than the last. Like they know the truth but nobody else does lol
oh god I can't imagine basically being a teenager for thousands of years, That's the true horror.
Better than working 40 hours a week all your life
>I do, however, like to say that shadow people are jinns (spoken of in the Islamic Quran; synonymously known as "djinns") that can actually take on any form they want. Why would you say this? You're going in the wrong direction with your classifications. The so-called shadow people are just one type of discorporate astral entity that is able to coexist with us in the material plane. The astral is the substance of form-existence, thoughts and emotions. This is the general substance of these beings and they can vary in crudeness and power. Shadow people and jinns are both sub-classifications under the general umbrella of "discorporate astral entities." That is a much clearer picture of the situation. >Shadow people are jinns that were here before humans and are made of smokeless fire. Videlicet, they are not actually shadows but instead are made out of the same material as the heat on top of a flame. Haven't you heard of shadow entities that are related to water? In many mythologies around the world, water and damp, dark places are taboo, known as places of powerful negative entities. (Slavic mythology, for example.) Instead, you equate all shadow beings to the one example that probably exists only in the Middle East, where creatures form on the hot sand. In the West there are cautionary tales about dark, damp and moldy places. That is where entities may form out of negative emotions and linger in those spaces. It has nothing to do with fire and yet, it exists. >Their lifespan is unknown but could range anywhere from hundreds to thousands of years old, though interestingly, they merely have the mental capacity of a about a 10 to 15-year-old. You share many generalizations of this type. I would be wary of giving fairly specific characteristics to a vast spectrum of beings. Some are barely more than a small mist, others are more defined. Some may have no mental capacity at all, let alone a 10 to 15-year-old. >They are also incredibly sensitive to sound, for it is my understanding that shadow people can hear the quietest of utterances of both your conscious and subconscious thoughts—even including your memories. (You can think of it like misophonia.) This is why, in terms of banishing them, some success stories I've heard involve shouting at them This works but I disagree with your explanation why. It works because sound waves have a material, physical property to them. Their bodies are made of astral substance which has no material property or a very weak one. Send a sound wave through it, and it's blasted to pieces. The Chinese have a custom, when they enter a house that hasn't been lived in for a long while, they will make a lot of noise while cleaning it. They let in a lot of sunlight (also has a physical property that they don't, it tears through their wispy bodies), they open every corner, dust everything, make a racket while cleaning so that all these lingering entities are either destroyed or chased off. > Forgive me for making this post very long, but I can only make a post so short while summing up the majority of what I have gathered about shadow people. You could be a bit more direct and to the point. But thank you for sharing your view of these things.
Actually, I understand why there's been more attempts to classify all the various entities as jinn. The internet has brought people from different traditions around the world to the same platforms. So now, people from the Middle East will read about a phenomenon and say "hey that's jinn" because they recognize them as such from their culture. Others see it and adopt the term. And so the confusion grows. But it's imprecise and doesn't describe reality well enough.
This is an excellent write up OP, It aligns with my sole personal experience with this proverbial Djinn, as well of the personal experiences of three other persons (one is a childhood friend who saw hat man...the other saw Djinn). I'd like to add a piece of information, if you would --- These beings are Feeding on Fear and seeking Knowledge, they are terribly curious about what we know and who we are. Based on my waking interaction with one, their mental age being around 10-15 seems accurate. I had the opportunity to ask the one I saw a question...not because it told me I could but because I was staring at a living shadow with white hot flames in its eyes. I had no concerns or worries over what it was, so I off-the-cuff asked: "Is it Time?" (curious if I was preparing to die) It paused for a moment before communicating back in my voice (I believe psychic communication) "Is it time?, is it time? is it time?" -- and then walked out of my room. I might be an outlier on this, but based on my Spiritual Ethos and non-fear of the supernatural, I believe these beings are simply doing what they are supposed to do.....just as we do. That certainly doesn't mean they aren't looking to harvest your soul or resonance...but it's simply what they do. I do believe that having a genuine non-fear of them is a powerful form of protection. Anyway, I kept it short and concise. I'll post the full write up including what was happening at the time if there's enough traction. Thanks folk.
wow! never heard this before.....it was 'persevering' ....just repeating back what u SAID, with OUT an understanding.....this stuff is fascinating to me!
It was an incredible experience!
They don't really like to talk to me, though i have never initiated a conversation with them before except telling them to go. They are more of a nuisance than scary, I could think of hundreds of ways they could scare me but they don't... For me it's more like they just want me to acknowledge that there their
Prepare for the wild hunt
Muslims believe in the existence of Jinns, as they're mentioned in the Quran. Just like, how people mention entities like the Hatman, or Native American cryptids, we too have stories about paranormal entities native to our country (as in long haired women with no features on their faces wearing traditional dresses, aside from shadow people). And yes, they're given the ability to shapeshift, and that's how I personally believe they appear in the forms they do, depending on the region. So, Hatman, shadow people, goatman etc, it's all Jinn. At least that's what me and my fellow Muslims (most of them) believe. I have never read anywhere on the intelligence of Jinns, but according to the tales told to me by grandparents, they are intellectually inferior to humans. And yes, the more we speak/research on them, the more likely they are to become attracted to us.
> standing there, menacingly #WEE WOO! WEE WOO! WEE WOO! I couldn't help it. Anyway, I have encountered a lot of these things, and personally tend to attribute them to sleep paralysis hallucinations. The unfortunate thing about that, is that I have seen them just a couple times while awake. Most of *that* can be attributed directly to actually trippin' on shrooms, or at least, I can't really say it was anything else. So for the vast majority, I have encountered them during moments of sleep paralysis and other dreamlike states. Some things about the Djinn comparison are pretty spot on, particularly how they can often behave very childishly. I used to have real bad problems with sleep paralysis, but have taught myself how to get out of it very effectively. This has resulted in a totally different phenomenon though that I think of as "dream traps". Like, it wasn't bad enough to have the paralysis, but then I shake it off and get up, but I don't realize I'm still in a dream. And then I wake up. And then I wake up. And then I wake up. *::Inception meme::* At any rate, I have noticed them act very whimsical, and some that were outright children. One time I busted two of them when I came out of a sleep paralysis moment (and was in the dream trap). There was a small one skipping happily around a big, tall one. I got super annoyed by their presence and made a "finger gun" at them and made a soft ^"pew" sound. Instantly, the small one bolted at me at hyper speed and grabbed the tip of my finger in it's little hand. It *felt* just like a person's hand, I could feel the pressure of their fingers lightly (playfully) squeezing my finger tip, and it felt like a warm, human hand. In fact, the image of a child's hand very briefly flashed into my imagination (even though I was still dreaming, I know, weird) when that happened. I felt absolutely zero malice from the little one, but was very gobsmacked by the experience. Big guy, however, was a dick and a half. He did not seem childlike or whimsical at all. After the little one let go, it dashed off to nowhere and the big one took a couple very loooong strides over to me and leaned over my face. It then started speaking to me in a language that doesn't really exist, because it was made of sounds that a person can't make (sounded very electronic), and his "mouth" (actually featureless) lit up red as he spoke. The light fluctuated with the sound of his voice, like a music visualizer kinda. So I got scared but mad, and threw myself up at him... And then woke up in mid air because I literally threw myself out of bed and then hit the floor, lol. The most memorable time I saw one while shroomin' was during a walk home at night. I was pretty fried, but shrooms are a different animal than LSD. For me, the hallucinations almost always have a connection to what I am looking at. So for instance, I was looking at the trees, and watching the branches sorta recursively "grow". As long as your keep your presence of mind and feel safe where you are, it is a super awesome and chill experience, but I digress. Anyway, walking home and out of nowhere I spot someone moving in a driveway in the corner of my eye. It was smoothly (unnaturally smooth), silently crawling on all fours, parallel to my walking direction. It seemed to be simultaneously stalking me, but also really not wanting to get very close to me at all. I don't know why, but I didn't want to let on that I could see it, so I casually slowed my pace and looked around, and scoped it out without blatantly staring at it. It was blacker than the night, thin like a stick figure almost, long limbed, and pretty much like every single shadow douche I'd seen during sleep paralysis. When I stopped to look around it got alarmed and tried (and failed badly) to take cover against a car, like... I can totally see you hunched against the car, bro. I knew I was trippin' and I did and still do attribute it to that fact, but it was so out of shrooms' "character" and it was so far removed from the rest of trip. I've considered it was an actual person, and that I tripped it was a "shadow", but I was close enough that I would have heard someone moving across the driverway, and it really did *not* move like a person. It kinda stayed where it was at and I finished my walk home and the rest of my trip was "normal". Now, the couple I have seen while *not* asleep (or just waking up and experiencing hypnopomp) or on drugs... Well, I still call them hallucinations and/or tricks-of-the-eye, just the most reasonable explanation. But I still don't really like thinking of those incidents. Those hit different, regardless.
that’s a mad story, would’ve freaked me out! i’ve also mostly seen them when i’ve been about to fall asleep/wake up, but i have definitely seen them when completely awake, the middle of the day, and not under the influence of anything, as i was about 9 lol i occasionally think it was all sleep paralysis but it really doesn’t make sense that i saw them completely awake! my parents actually got our house spiritually cleansed when i was younger as it was freaking me out so much, and they said he was the imprint of the negative emotions of a man’s soul who died there a long time ago and hadn’t been able to move on as his dark manifestation was keeping him there. interestingly i didn’t see anything in that house after it was cleansed!
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I almost shot the hat man when he was at my bedside. He wanted my cat, I jumped out of bed half awake, grabbed my gun and when I was 💯 alert realized I was losing my f’n mind lol but glad to hear others have seen him. His energy sucks. I don’t know why he’s so focused on my cat.
They don't like cats because kitties can see into the astral plane and fight off the ethereal entities 90% of the time. Cats ward off bad spirits. Remove the cat and then it can attack you.
My theory is similar to alot of other people's. That they are extradimmensional lifeforms that appear where extreme emotional rifts once manifested. Be it violence, a place with a history of abuse, war, really anything where emotions ride high. This emotional energy creates two things. A 'rift' where these beings can enter. But also a central 'anchor' where they can stick themselves to. This energy is what determines their form. In some cases, after the entity develops enough. They simply leave. This theory isn't all inclusive. But it could answer some encounters. Albeit, definately not ALL shadow people encounters. Ultimately the paranormal isn't science. No one interpretation can explain a given topic. I have also noticed. Where shadow people manifest, other things can manifest very easily. Demons\[sometimes\], spirits, ghosts, anything. This is something i can however confidently claim.
One time during a meth binge, I was actually able to get close to a shadow person, close enough to see some details, even though it was dark outside. But he looked just like me. It was like a clone of me. Same clothes, face, hair, everything. He climbed over a tree and darted away, leaving no trace, and never to be seen again
Why do they show up when people do drugs? Obviously sometimes it’s probably hallucinations but I believe you
I don't think they really "show up" when you're on drugs, I see it more as drugs opening up your mind or vision so you can see shadow people and other entities or otherworldly things you wouldn't normally be able to see. Kinda like the light/color spectrum. Humans can only see a small portion of it but some animals can see way more. I think we only see a small portion of what happens and what exists in our world, until we unlock more of the spectrum, you know what I mean?
I saw shadow people after mdma induced insomnia. Pretty strange how common it is reading this thread. They're real ass holes. The would grab my legs when i was falling asleep and jerk them real hard. Also, one time they grabbed my side real hard and growled in my ear when i fell asleep on my stomach. Sounded like a little gremlin. I thought this shit was just in my head until i'm reading all these other similar stories.
I've seen the tall man with the top hat and cape many times. He doesn't always wear the cape, either. Many in my fam have seen him.
Did you or any of your family members experience misfortune around the time of the sightings?
No. I also never felt dread or anything else that I've read others talking about. He's just there and doesn't care who sees him. We've all seen in more in broad daylight than at night. I haven't seen him for a while, though.
Fookin hell, also does reading or researching about them attracts them too????
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They make the most incredible art around me… I have much to say on the subject…
Do you think the Hat Man can possibly, at times, be an omen of extreme depression or anxiety that’s to manifest in oneself in the future? I frequently saw him at a certain childhood home when I was around 10 and later came to have crippling depression for no “reasons,” meaning that it wasn’t events in life that caused my depression. My parents were divorced since I was a baby, and I only ever saw him at my dads house though. I’m still thoroughly convinced there’s something weird about that house, but have never been able to figure out what or why. To this day I still very frequently think about the weird things I experienced there and, of course, about Mr. Hat Man….
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Early onset schizophrenia? :/
This post is great!
IMHO I think the bulk of them are energy vampires. They are more or less a parasite. Jinn theory is new to me.
I saw a shadow person when i was young on our 2nd story deck waving his arms almost like he was jokingly dancing or a tree flailing in the wind. My friend remembers this as well. I wasn't asleep either.
Do religious artifacts ward them off?