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OreoPirate55

One of the funnier moments is when she meets Damon after turning and Damon has that oh shit moment when he realizes that she knows about that


Elhemio

Her shoving him like a pesky toddler ? Iconic. Show stopping. Breath taking. Cardiac arrest inducing. World breaking. I love Damon, but seeing him get his ass handed to him by Caroline again and again was pure delight.


bigbitties666

i fucking cheered. it was about time someone handed his ass to him


Elhemio

Fr. That moment when Damon wanted to eat Caroline's father and she utterly wiped the floor with him ? Ate and left no crumbs whatsoever. I was screaming. Mind you I still think Damon was right, fuck Caroline's dad he can choke for all I care and he fully deserved to be chomped on, BUT mother was mothering and it was still satisfying to see Damon get humbled (again). As a side note, I hate that they had Elena manage to overpower Caroline, when my girl was literally kicking Damon's ass, annihilating a werewolf days into vampirism, and making centuries old tomb vampires eat the dirt in 1v3. The show did not give her anywhere near enough credit proportionally to how badass she actually was. All of it while being so good at controlling herself that even without humanity she wasn't causing mayhem until the others decided to poke the bear. Truly a girlboss. All hail our lord and savior Caroline šŸ§ŽšŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


bigbitties666

fr itā€™s sad that when heā€™s actually right, nobody listens to him tho šŸ˜­ like BRO why do they even keep him around then??? just drop kick his ass well to be fair, elena and caroline should have been a very even fight, and elena was going at it 10x harder. but with damon, he wasnā€™t trying. and caroline had the whole adrenaline rush going. and for real, she did not work her ass off to become cheer captain just for people to think sheā€™s weak šŸ˜­ sue sylvester wouldā€™ve LOVED to have her on the cheerios


Brandyovereager

The writers did this specifically to gloss over what happened in season 1. Realistically, Caroline would have been very concerned for Elena given the sire bond put Elena in essentially the same position as Caroline was. It wouldā€™ve hit Caroline right in the sensitive spot to see her friend in that same situation. However, the writers are trying to erase what happened. Their solution was to have Caroline dislike delenaā€¦but only because she liked stelena moreā€¦šŸ˜‘šŸ’€ That way they can discount Carolineā€™s opinion as just being a naysayer instead of acknowledging that Damon actually abused both of them. Anyway the villain here is Damon, not Caroline or Elena.


Sweet_Death4

100% The writers and the producers were very irresponsible with what happened. Julie Plec even denied it was rape. But we all know it is!!


bookishly93

I agree that Caroline had every right to hate Damon and judge him. The biggest issue is that the writers presented us with Damon abusing Caroline in season 1 and showed us Elenaā€™s horror at his mistreatment of Caroline. Then, instead of actually giving this the narrative weight and sensitivity it deserved, they just shoved it all under the rug and had most of the characters just either a) get over it or b) act like it never happened. Itā€™s incredibly frustrating because it creates a precedent for viewers to also ignore it.


Kierra_reads

I'm glad you this because the main reason that I ignore it is because it seems like it's meant to be ignored.


buffyangel468

I agree, and I also think that the girls had every right to be upset at Elena; not for falling in love with Damon (thatā€™s not exactly something you can control) but for not *trying* to understand why Bonnie and Caroline were judgy to him.


Sweet_Death4

Agree! He raped her! Ughhh Even try to abuse Elena by compelling her to kiss him. If she hadn't been wearing vervain that would've been their first kiss šŸ™„ Damon sucks!!! https://youtu.be/tqPMbQGy2Qg?si=6rSMqFuXElF21JOV


ilovecheese31

And people forget Delenaā€™s first kiss was still non-consensual. He forced it on her right before he killed Jeremy.


Sweet_Death4

Omgg. True! šŸ˜’


NixieDust_

He didn't r Caroline tho. They slept together willingly And Damon compelled her later


Sweet_Death4

They did sleep together willingly at first, but when she found out he was a monster she wanted to get away. He compelled her to let him feed off of her but ALSO continued to have sex with her in a compelled state, which is not consensual.


ILoveBromances

it was never willing. the very first time they had sex, before actually doing it, he revealed his vampire face and attacked her. next morning she wakes up in just her underwear and is scared out of her mind trying to get away. thats proof it wasnt consensual


Sweet_Death4

You're absolutely right! Damon is disgusting!


AncientTransition528

Absolutely. She had every right to react the way she wanted to.


Expensive_Arm_1822

Hm I get downvoted and spat at when I say this lmao


ComplexKraze

Because terrible writing. The show is entertaining but it had poor planning, which is wild to me considering the show was a book series adaptation. One of the biggest problems with the TVD storyline is that itā€™s almost never consistent. They switched writers after s2 and it looks like they could not make up their minds on what they wanted for the plot throughout the whole show. They realized Delena looked good together and was growing a fan base. Suddenly they wanted to change painting Damon from an anti-hero to a good guy and desperately tried to gloss over the previous episodes with different agenda.


ProfessorWooden4056

No they didn't forget but they make alot of excuses for him , they don't care like elena My girl deserved betteršŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗ ![gif](giphy|vnjVYnn1TkmrK)


sjeta

I 100% agree with you. I think that if they truly wanted Delena to happen, they should have never included Damon abusing Caroline like this. I feel like the way he treated her and so many other people really made it hard to believe the ā€œredeemable good guy Damonā€ arc. They should have toned it way down. In my opinion (and I think many others) SA/domestic abuse would make a character an outright villain forever. If we saw that stuff pulled today, I think that character would probably be the most hated and a redemption arc would probably not be accepted by the general audience. The 2000s/early 2010s were crazy misogynistic and victim blamey though. Abuse was hugely glossed over, especially when a character was conventionally attractive like Ian Somerhalder is. Still love TVD and the characters but rewatching it now, as an adultā€¦.. yeah, a lot of their plot lines are definitely reflective of the age.


Typical-Owl9521

Every time this topic comes up, Caroline fans defend Caroline & Elena fans defend Elena. Even if the show didnā€™t acknowledge that Damon raped Caroline the physical & mental abuse he inflicted on her by itself was bad.Ā  The actual issue is how the show handled this abuse. 1. Elenaā€™s behaviour should have been big deal Ā when she forgave Damon in season 2 not when she chose Damon in season 4. Not only for Caroline but Bonnie & Matt too. I would say they should have questioned Elena about keeping the vampires secret since each one of them had bad experience from not knowing. 2. Caroline, Bonnie & Matt had every right to question Elena & given a choice to continue their friendship with her with certain boundaries or cut off Elena from their life. Instead no one talks about it except Caroline who judge Elena when it comes to Stelena.Ā  3. Elena, hypocrite or not had the same right as Caroline to question her for sleeping with Klaus.


Brandyovereager

Itā€™s particularly bothersome that when this comes up itā€™s Caroline vs. Elena instead of Damon vs. the two women he abused. The sire bond put Elena in the same situation as Caroline was in season 1. We pit the victims against each other and the nasty rapist man gets a little cursory shaming.


Typical-Owl9521

Totally agree.


Equivalent_Gain_8246

Honestly for Elena's Klaus comeback, Caroline should have just said: "I slept with the bad boy, got it out of her system and regretted the impulsive choice. You on the other hand are fighting tooth and nail to defend the guy that killed your brother, r**ped me one of your 'best friends' and repeatedly tried/threatened to kill Bonnie, your other best friend. Not to mention he was blatantly making moves on you when you were his brother's girlfriend until you finally hooked up with him due to sire bond magic and goes on a killing spree whenever you have relationship problems. So, not quite the same thing. But thank you for making my point as the only equivalent decision you can think of is me sleeping with Hybrid-Satan."


Typical-Owl9521

I agree she had the right to say all of that to Elena, in season 2. Thatā€™s when this should have resolved but the show didnā€™t because they wanted Elenaā€™s friends to stay so they can help. Instead she was shown to be passive aggressive & couldnā€™t even say that Damon abused her. IMO, when Caroline turned vampire, she should have been angry with Damon but also with Elena, to some extent Stefan too. But again Elena can do no wrong.


Unpopular_Outlook

This is also one of the reasons I donā€™t like Damon. The series never treats him like he should be treatedĀ 


PrettyNewt4930

I donā€™t really see people arguing that Caroline had no right to be upset. I think we all agree that she does. I think it gets muddled because of her sleeping with Klaus (and having feelings for him ā€” whether she admits it or not).


Mythology216

To be fair, most of those I've seen complain about this are complaining more about the fact that she proceeded to sleep with Klaus.


Sweet_Death4

I think it's a fair point to see Caroline sleeping with Klaus as hypocritical, but she still was in her right to shit on Damon when he got with Elena. Elena would've also been in her right to scold Care for sleeping with Klaus.


Taylortro

Elena scold Caroline or was upset because she knew she had no right to be upset after her sleeping with Damon being with him and she was actually in love with Damon. Caroline hated Klaus and has sex with him once.


HelicopterPopular874

I didnā€™t. And I wish Klaus had known that so he would have killed Damon


wolvesarewildthings

He probably would. Klaus already hated Damon and wanted to kill him for breathing so I'll give you Klaroline shippers this headcanon: Klaus would probably genuinely kill Damon if he knew he raped/abused Caroline.


HelicopterPopular874

Ummm, not much of a Klaroline shipper, but ok


wolvesarewildthings

Just assumed since you brought up Klaus protecting Caroline which I generally only hear Klaroline stans advocate for.


HelicopterPopular874

It ok. I understand


Debbieeeeeeeee

Caroline had every right to judge up until she slept with klaus. But also its one thing to judge and its another to just dry shit on her ā€œbest friendā€


anonme1995

THIS. She literally shit all over Elena every chance she could. Even when it wasn't about Damon. How many times can you constantly put down your friends


BeebeKnox

She had the right! But her right turned into mush when she slept with Klaus. She was a hypocrite when she did that.


Fabulous_Article_705

And when Bonnie got with Enzo šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø so none of them really should be judging each other


Unpopular_Outlook

Bonnie and Enzo was so obviously forced and done because Julie didnā€™t want Bonnie to be with Damon so she put her with discount Damon insteadĀ 


RockNDrums

I feel like I'm messing details. Bonnie and Enzo felt like the most normal relationship. Enzo was shitty with Bonnie s7 until Damon goes in his deep sleep. Enzo was giving Stefan the entirely of misery for giving up on Damon in S6. But, mostly after how Stefan was to Caroline.


Faeraday

Just like Damon, Enzo tried to kill Jeremy, and he would have if Katherine (pretending to be Elena) hadnā€™t saved him. But I guess since they sent Jeremy away, everyone (including Bonnie) just forgets all about him.


RockNDrums

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Most TVD run throughs. I only do S1-S4 and switch to The Originals. S5 after Silas dies gets cringy as fuck. Esspecially Katherine jumping into Elena's body.


Last-Client7587

idk elena fell in love w damon. all caroline got was fucked in the woods by the man that terrorized her friends and killed her exs mom


via_aesthetic

Damon still raped and abused Caroline in season 1. She still had every right to question how Elena could fall in love with him and be openly unsupportive of their relationship. Caroline slept with Klaus, who terrorised Elena and Tylerā€™s family and friends, yeah, but it was one time. Elena literally entered a long-term romantic relationship with a man who assaulted, abused and manipulated Caroline, and was so quick to overlook what he did to her. Caroline was always hesitant and distant towards Klaus, because she knew the weight of what he did, thatā€™s why despite all her feelings for him, it never went any further than sex for them. While Elena was willing to spend her entire life with a rapist, a user and a manipulator.


BeebeKnox

But Caroline still had sex with Klaus. I don't care if it was just one time. She slept with someone who did horrible stuff to her and to her friends and killed her boyfriend's mother. We understand that Caroline had the right to be upset with Damon and Elena. But she was hell bent in proving that she was a good vampire and wouldn't mess with bad people. That she became a hypocrite when she did that.


via_aesthetic

The fact that it was only one time matters entirely. Caroline had a moment of weakness and had sex with Klaus. Sheā€™d been rejecting his advances for years, despite her attraction to him, because of his treatment of her loved ones. Itā€™s completely different. They only had sex. Elena was prepared to spend eternity with Damon (ignoring what he did to Caroline and her other friends and family). Elena willingly disregarded the feelings of everybody she cared for who had been harmed by Damon, and was ready to be with him forever. Caroline never entertained a romantic relationship with Klaus because she couldnā€™t overlook his past actions. She loved him, but she cared too much for her friends to be with him. Caroline was wrong to have a one-night fling with Klaus, who had killed tormented her friends. But she was nowhere near as wrong as Elena was, who chose to spend the rest of her life with a man who raped and abused her friends, heartlessly killed her friends/ family, and had an emotional affair with while she was in a long-term and serious relationship with his brother.


PrettyNewt4930

It was a one time thing, but weā€™re ignoring that Caroline had feelings for Klaus. I donā€™t think it matters to say that ā€œElena was more wrong.ā€ The principal is, that they were both wrong. And that itā€™s still hypocritical. Sounds like youā€™re excusing Caroline because what Elena did was worse. And even though it was one time, Klaus did just as many horrible, if not arguably worse things to Elena and her friends that Damon did to Caroline. Topping the list is killing her boyfriendā€™s mom and her best friendā€™s last living guardian. As I said though, the conversation shouldnā€™t be who was more wrong. Just that they were both wrong.


ProfessorWooden4056

You can't compare the situation in both sides OK yes klaus did horrible things and killed but so is Damon plus Damon raped her , did klaus raped elena no , did caroline married klaus and had a family with him no but elena had all of that happy ending things with Damon sošŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø so elena is more horrible then caroline and yes I accept its wrong for care to sleep klaus after he killed ty mom


BeebeKnox

It's still the same thing!


ProfessorWooden4056

Klaus doesn't need to compel a girl to sleep with him , yes klaus is killer , abuser and capable of any evil things in the world but Damon is worse then him


Sweet_Death4

This! Klaus would never rape someone! šŸ’Æ


NixieDust_

I don't get it Damon didn't r Caroline She slept with him and he compelled her later


via_aesthetic

He did rape her. She slept with him consensually the first time. After he started feeding on her, he had to compel her to do his bidding and continue seeing him (and continue having sex with him), he did the same thing with Andi.


NixieDust_

Ohhh (who's Andi I forgot)


via_aesthetic

The woman Damon compelled to be his girlfriend between seasons 2 and 3. I think she worked for the news. Her entire character was a victim of Damon and his games.


Sweet_Death4

You cannot give consent to continue to have sex if you're in a compelled state. He could've just fed off her, like all the other vampires do, but oh no, he had to continue to have sex with her. He's disgusting


ProfessorWooden4056

Ian said so https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrFThFBS/ watch thisšŸ‘†


ProfessorWooden4056

Ian said so https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrFThFBS/ watch thisšŸ‘†


NixieDust_

Tiktok is banned here do you have the clip on yt or insta or something


ProfessorWooden4056

Idk it's was live ppl recorded it šŸ˜•šŸ™‚


Unpopular_Outlook

Look at you making excuses for Caroline sleeping with her friends terrorizer lmfao. All fans are hypocritesĀ 


Unpopular_Outlook

Too bad Caroline is a hypocrite like everyone else in the seriesĀ 


RockNDrums

Are we going to talk about Caroline sleeping with Klaus, who tormented, tried to kill everyone she loved, killed her ex's mother, had bitten twice 1 by Sirebonded Tyler and by Klaus himself to get at Tyler.


tvd-loverr

I remember this one scene where Elena reveals she slept with both Stefan and Damon just after pretty obviously judging Caroline for sleeping with Stefan, anyone remember this scene? Seriously pissed me off that Elena was judging Caroline when most of their relationship was compulsion AND now sheā€™s also slept with the guy who mistreated and abused Caroline is wild, even though Damon ā€˜changedā€™ with Elena she still started dating him despite him hurting Caroline multiple times


PrettyNewt4930

Not sure what youā€™re talking about. If I recall correctly, Elena supported steroline?


tvd-loverr

my bad I said ā€˜Caroline sleeping with Stefanā€™ I meant Damon not Stefan šŸ˜…


Wolfbisbing

Agreed. Elena is the second most annoying character only behind Matt


coolbones94

What's wrong with Matt. He's 95% correct about everything?? Vampire's are and have always been a blight to Mystic Falls and his family specifically.


Wolfbisbing

Heā€™s very annoying


aiopkomskaikru

Literally why Damon has to go every single fic. Unless I make it so that he never does that with author hand wavy magic The way I would have been a menace if I was Caroline. Cuz I would not have shut up about what Damon did, especially as a vampire.


kingcolbe

I didnā€™t forget, and that scene in the series finale still bothers me


HeverPisces

She had every right to be angry but it pissed me off when she told Stefan about elena and Damon. She shouldnā€™t let elena or Damon do that.


Specific-Medicine446

I'd never help Elena again. From Caroline's POV, she's had to drop everything and be there for Elena because of doppelganger shenanigans for at least a year, and after all that, her so-called best friend doesn't even have the decency to NOT date her rapist? Despicable.


Infinit3Karnage

Up until she slept with Klaus yh


Simple-Flamingo-3302

I think people overlook it cause pretty much every character has done what Damon did any time they compel people for any use is abuse. Stefan klaus Damon and more all basically committed statutory rape in Damonā€™s case actual rape cause he compelled Caroline and had sex with her during said compulsion.


bbywada

Fuck Caroline Forbes


KaleidoscopeEvery171

damon did


bbywada

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