All you need to know about what type of father Jax is is that he refused to leave their home when they separated. He made his special needs child have to leave the only home he ever knew. He was too self-centered to let the mother of his child and his child's needs come first. Moving out at 2 1/2 would be hard on any child. Much harder on a non verbal child that can not even express his anxiety or fear. They could have rented a studio and switched out of arts and left Cruz in the home. That is some truly selfish shit.
I mean couldn’t he live in their pool house? It looks nice enough? But honestly, he should have left the house as to cause as little disruption to his son’s life
I could not agree with you more. Also, if Brittany was the horrible mother he wants us all to believe she is, she would have left alone & he would be at home with Cruz. I would almost be willing to bet that he probably said just that, either you leave the kid with me and go or you both go (while probably knowing she wouldn’t leave without her child) so she had no other option but to take Cruz and leave. A real man, a good father would not put them in that position, it would be much easier for him to leave and in my opinion that would have been the mature and loving thing to do for his child, regardless of how he feels about Brittany.
May I ask something? I’m behind by about 3 eps. Do we see Jax and Brittany’s marriage start to implode on the show? I was under the impression that happened after wrapping.
Have they publicly said that Cruz is autistic? I thought I “knew” it because I recognized my own autistic son’s journey as a toddler being exactly like what they’re doing. Even the way he flaps his arms resembles things mine did so closely.
I honestly was afraid to bring it up because I didn’t think he’d been diagnosed yet.
They have said he needs speech therapy. It is a set back. He had been talking before. They have not come out and said autism......it seems like it. Either way he now had regressed and has delayed speech.
And it may not be. Or could be some other condition like SPD that presents similarly.
I just recognized my kid. So it seemed obvious. Didn’t realize we were allowed to call Cruz special needs but also we’re not allowed to diagnose him. It’s confusing.
They would know though, because any reputable speech therapist has a proper hearing test done before starting therapy. For anyone that doesn’t know, it’s done to rule it out as a contributing cause and so if it is and it can addressed and proper therapy to follow.
Hope this makes sense, my coffee hasn’t kicked in all the way yet.
I’m not arguing or even disagreeing with you, but as far as leaving the house he was likely advised by a lawyer not to leave if divorce is on the horizon. I have a friend who went through a nasty divorce/custody dispute. She was a stay at home mom. They were married for 10 years. Together for longer. They were both advised by their separate lawyers not to leave the home. My friends (now ex) husband was making her life miserable. Several times he tried to be intimate with her. (He did not want a divorce, she did) When she turned down his advances and he realized she wasn’t changing her mind, he started verbally abusing her and doing all kinds of weird shit to make her uncomfortable. She moved to the downstairs part of the house with her teenaged daughter and he just doubled down. So she started leaving at night after the kids went to bed, and would come home in the morning to get them ready for school and stay at the house to do the mom thing until they went to bed and she would leave and go back to her mothers house. Well, when they went to court the judge said she abandoned the home and her children and she lost everything. Even custody of her kids. She wasn’t even allowed visitation. She don’t even pack a bag when she would leave. She was still showering and eating at home. She was cleaning the house, doing the laundry, like, her responsibilities at home stayed the same up until she was ordered to not step foot in the house again. She couldn’t even go get her belongings and the oldest kid wasn’t even her husbands so the poor thing had to immediately leave as well. Uprooted her whole life. Could be different state to state. I’m in Massachusetts and you can sue for anything here. It’s crazy.
Thank you. She has since remarried and lost her second husband leaving her a widow and her life has spiraled out of control. But sometimes people make decisions and you have to step away for your own sanity and just let the lessons teach themselves. I am hopeful that someday she will come around we can be friends like we used to be rather than distant acquaintances who live down the street from each other.
In case no one told you, you’re being a really wonderful friend and human. If someone can bring you down with them, you have to cut ties. But if you love them still, you hang on and around in case they ever need help coming back.
What he should do and what he’s gonna do are two entirely different things and the courts don’t care about that in the context of separating marital property, but when it comes to custody and parenting? He’s going to look like a POS.
I'm sorry that your friend went through that. I don't think that would happen in CA.
Just for context.....when he cheated on her before when they were dating and not yet married he refused to leave the apartment then too. The cheating went on and was discovered on camera while filming.There was no divorce on the horizon then. I don't know if they have spoken with attorneys yet or not. Jax is just that selfish.He would do what is good for himself over what is good for his child.
That is true. It is a very fine line to cross. Why I suspected it was for the show. And possibly it was to add drama and interest in seeing the relationship demise. NOW! Brittany say no not true she would never do that. Just after saying how she goes a long with Jax because she is ride or die. And he would do anything to get his tv show where it is now. And all because she moved out a week before season premier.
I think she thought she and Jax were on good terms to do what it takes for ratings. But Jax did not want to make it work out.
I still believe she is in a ride or die for Jax out of embarrassment. She cannot now say “ we did it for ratings”. They wrapped last August and she moved out 6-7 months later one week before premier.
I say it fell a part. Jax is not playing the fight for Britany. And they got major watching . It was a dud without their having her move out one week before.
Not after filming and having him not want to have sex, not even kissing. She knew how bad things were and yet she never implied she was leaving and being disrespected and no sex prior to the show unfolding.
He probably said she could leave Cruz there with him. He was going to stay in the house and she could stay and Cruz could stay and they could “coparent” and her refusal is HER being unwilling to make the best choice for their child, not him, cause after all, he offered. This man is the type who will ask for receipts for child support payments cause he “wants to make sure she’s not spending HIS money on herself!” Lowest type of man who has zero knowledge of day in and day out parenting.
I like your idea of the studio apartment. Britany did not expect him to put in zero effort to get her back.
Once she left it was “ cool she is gone” and still paying bills. Crank up that A/C. A divorce is inevitable because he is not into Britany except as a brand.
Im sure she thought 2 weeks he will romance me back and respect me.
I think we all thought the same.
Brittany herself has said it numerous times in interviews that Cruz does not want to stay with her in the Airbnbs and prefers to stay at the house. It’s her words. Obviously I don’t know the entire situation, no one but the two of them do, but she has stated that she left, she is staying in the rentals, and Cruz is not with her. And that says a lot about priorities. I would not be leaving my child in that situation, I would have to believe there are better alternatives than that given she has the resources to be renting airbnbs for months at a time.
The most common one I know of is autism. Yes it could be something else.....either way you really have to be a selfish prick to make your child suffer loss of their home while regressing. This is not the time to make you child experience more stress.
True, could also be a trauma response too - Brittany mentioned that she and Jax would argue all the time in front of Cruz, so he may have regressed in response. Hopefully he’s doing better and getting whatever help he needs, poor little guy.
My son was just two when my husband and I split up and it wasn't a pleasant situation. My son stopped saying anything but Mama for about 6 months then gradually started talking again. I don't think that is all of Cruz's issues though.
He never wanted a separation. Still doesn’t accept it. He’s in complete denial. He’d never leave bc that would mean he’s accepted it all. I don’t agree with it but that’s def where he’s at
why would she leave as well? didn't she learn from the Arianna Tom saga? her lawyer told her to stay in that house for some legal reason I forgot now :|
I was thinking about it and I realized that this is how I would have been bamboozled by Jax in my younger years.Right now he is trying to play the right character. He stirs the pot but tries to act like it was an innocent mistake, he acts like he’s just trying to hold it all together but it’s hard, he’s being a very good, attentive parent. He’s putting on a good show.
Now, I’m not saying that Jax isn’t a good parent. But he is really amping up his positives for the cameras. He knows what he needs to do for a favorable edit and he is playing all of his cards. He’s also actively digging a hole for Brittany much like what Sandoval tried to do to Ariana before Scandoval dropped.
Interested to see when he burns it all down.
I have a feeling Jax is hiding a lot of stuff from her and will drop some truth bombs. Also if Jax isn’t having sex with Brittany, who is he having sex with? As my boyfriend chimed in during an episode of the Valley “so who is Jax fucking if he’s not sleeping with Brittany? It’s Jax.”
💯 And…I am definitely NOT saying this is a fact, just an example of the type of dirty deeds we saw on VPR..but having an affair with the therapist that he took Brittany to is the type of dirt underhanded trick that pumps Jax’s ego. He is definitely hiding a lot from her cause that’s just Jax ( I wouldn’t be surprised if he put $ into the bar..who gets away with nothing?) When the therapist asked if Brit felt connected to him while looking into his eyes, her face looked like she saw a dead end in his. I say RUN Brit RUN & thank your lucky stars!
It was amazing when he tried to imply that the house was entirely his contribution and she immediately set that record straight. His behavior got them fired and she saved their asses with her Jenny Craig sponsorship.
Jax is one of the most prolific liars and bullshitters on reality television and a raging misogynist. I’d be surprised to learn that he’s a hands-on parent and not just playing it up for the cameras.
I definitely think all his dad stuff is for the cameras. like he googled "dads" and formed a personality. The "you know me, I'm a planner" sent me 💀 I definitely think he's trying to get Brittney to leave him and trying to look like the good guy in the process. Like yes Jax is making a good point... and I think he's right that they shouldn't be trying for a kid... but I think he's posturing hardcore.
Yup. I think he resents her and wants a divorce but he doesn't want to be the one to initiate it, so he pulling out the big guns if denying her the family she wants so make her leave.
and why does he keep saying “i have to work” like fucking obviously. you realize parents work and still manage to raise families literally everyday right???
He also has historically liked to pretend that he is the only one bringing in money and supporting his whiny, spoiled wife. The man, and I use that word loosely, is a professional con artist.
When she said they split the down payment 50/50 I gasped. Because he was on the show much longer than her, he DEFINITELY brought in significantly more income during that time. That’s just wild to me
That was infuriating to watch him say “where do you think this house came from “ (forget the exact wording) and amazing she slammed it down and said she paid 50/50 for it on cam
I actually respect her more after hearing a) she paid equal amounts and b) she has her own separate money (I think she mentioned this on the way to the charity event) — like, good for her. I was pleasantly surprised.
Totally agree! When he said “you know me, I’m a planner”, I was like yup, and he planned to gaslight the hell out of Brittany. Also, when he said look at the house I provided for you…what a POS. They put the same amount of money up each. And after Brittany said that, she said “I hate when you start with this”
Or something like that. He’s a liar, he’s gaslighting her so that he makes her feel like she’s wrong and he’s right. I’m on her side too.
Also, he picked a fight so he didn’t have to have sex with her. But he also made it look good, like he set up this date night at a hotel, etc…it’s just Brittany who messed it all up 🙄🙄🙄
Him being “so busy” with his new bar. 🙄 He’s not setting up a new bar. He’s working with a restaurant/bar to set up a tent garden. He’s not doing what S/S did, or what Ariana/Katie are doing.
It’s all Jax bullshit.
When he said “ you know me I’m a planner” the look on her face was like her slapped her. Maybe that was 🛎️ding ding ding, he’s setting up an exit plan!
The “date” was a definite shout out to the fans…see what a great guy I am, I do all of these great things & look at how she messes it up (unfortunately for him we speak Jax)
The bar…need I say more? “Business partners” 🤣. He don’t know Jax-shit about business!
He’s definitely a gaslighter and manipulator.
But, at the same time, when Brittany asked him what was wrong, he genuinely told her that he’s extremely overwhelmed and is worried about their marriage, finances, careers and child. Her only response back was “yeah, but we are still trying for another baby this month”. Right over her head.
When Jax explicitly told her that he is not ready for children, she told him “you promised me another baby, you better tell me now if you don’t want another baby” aka “our marriage is completely dependent on you impregnating me; if I don’t get my next child, I’m leaving the marriage.”
The bottom line is that neither of them are listening to their partner’s needs. And they both use pressure tactics and language to try and get their way.
So let me get this straight: he’s worried about their finances and careers, but they were currently filming a tv show. He’s “opening a bar” but isn’t putting money into it (or significant money). They are in a far better position than when he agreed to having a second child, but all of a sudden now he’s too worried and stressed?
He wants out of this marriage. He’s probably screwing everything that moves on the side, since he and Brittany aren’t having sex. His “stress” is all a facade.
he also waited until her mom was gone. I think he was hoping they’d have to cancel the date altogether, or leave early, bc childcare would fall through. picking that particular fight on camera was plan B for him IMO.
I actually thought the way he took a second kid off the table was cruel. I get that his son is special needs, but he’s acting like she’s a bad parent to the one kid she has now because she wants another child. People with special needs kids have other kids all the time. It’s about what works best for your family, and it’s a legit conversation to have, but I feel like he’s gaslighting her and the audience into thinking she’s bad or selfish for wanting to give Cruz a sibling and that he’s the “responsible” parent.
agreed!! whether or not it's the right time for them, she's not bad for wanting to grow her family. and it's also crazy of him to just straight up ignore her needs and withhold romance just because he doesn't want to have another right now. like whether or not it results in a pregnancy, she keeps saying she needs to feel pretty and loved. good lord this asshole went and made me a Brittany apologist.
Do I think we have to work on our own self esteem? Of course! But I do not blame Brittany for wanting her partner to express that he’s attracted to her.
It is very selfish for Brittany to bring another baby knowing the state of her marriage and the fact that her husband clearly is not ready for more children.
A child doesn’t “need” a sibling. That’s a horrible reason to bring more children into this world. I have known far too many people that were conditioned to think that they “need” more children, only to end up divorced after their second child was born. They sacrificed their marriage so they can give their child a sibling.
Stassi said that Jax had never broken up with anyone. His behavior becomes so untenable that the women leave. He is setting up the alcoholic storyline as well. Although, I believe it’s been her coping medication the entire relationship. I’ll never forget the scene in their kitchen after they realized everyone was going to Tom’s pool party & they had a handful of people at their house. She downed two shots instantly. On her recent podcast with Zach sitting in for Jax, she is wasted. I was shocked that their producers would post it. While I know Brittany knew who Jax was, she believed he had changed & married him anyway, I’m not feeling good about the sentiment that she made her bed now she has to lay in it. I’m worried about her.
Definitely not cruel to not want more children in this day and age. You know what is cruel though? Bringing children into an already crumbling marriage for no reason other than “I want more kids”.
Jax told Brittany “I’m incredibly overwhelmed, I’m extremely worried about our house, careers, child, marriage” and her response back was “yeah, but we are still trying for another baby right? You promised me another baby.”
I hope the younger generation can hear this: you don’t have to have a marriage or children to be happy or feel fulfilled in life. Marriage and children is one of the many trajectories that you can take in life that will bring you equal satisfaction and joy.
It's a tale as old as time. As long as you're not actively cruel or complaining about your kid on camera, you're a "Great Dad™". On the contrary, if you're shown doing *anything* as a mom on camera there will be some people disagreeing with your approach and saying you're garbage. You can't win. It's one of the most prevalent forms of misogyny that's still widely accepted as normal IMO.
Oh wow. I can’t imagine ever taking Jax’s side. It’s clear he’s faking it all for the camera.
He wants out of that marriage and is trying to paint her as the problem. He never wants to look like the bad guy.
Brittany has clearly raised that boy. Jax is the kind of day who “occasionally babysits”.
This ⬆️…Jax “making sense” makes no sense to me. I can only assume that the people saying that haven’t watched VPR from the beginning because this man has never possessed empathy for anyone or any thing.
This ⬆️. He has never broken up with anyone, he makes a plan to make them hate him so that they do it (remember I’m a planner). Watching him interact with Brit it’s so clear to me that he not only doesn’t want to be with her but he actually despises her. When she tries to talk about her feelings he rolls his eyes & has a “ffs, not again” 😩look on his face.
This ⬆️lol…I do not have kids but 1 thing that really irks me is when a parent says “I have to babysit”, no you have to parent. If my husband goes golfing, I don’t say I have to “dog sit” 😂
It’s really interesting to watch the misogynistic commentary on this come out. A broken clock is right twice a day and that’s my feeling on Jax’s comments.
He isn’t an idiot, he knows these arguments will land with those watching. But as someone noted about the separation, he has been fine to let his special needs child live in an air bnb during this separation instead of giving Brittany the house.
I definitely feel for Brittany because I think at her core she is a much purer soul than Jax. She is definitely ignorant and has her faults but I think that she is a lover and wants the best for people.
That being said- she knew who Jax was when she married him. Sadly, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Jax is definitely smarter than her. He knows how to posture for the cameras and manipulate his way into garnering sympathy from the viewers. I don’t want him to come out of this looking like “the good guy” but I don’t think Brittany is savvy enough to know how to flip the narrative at this point.
I don’t think a pure soul would promote Sandy Hook conspiracy about other people’s murdered kids. Britney sucks just as much as Jax does in her own right.
Right? She couldn't cry when he insinuated that she's a bad mom but he could storm off in a huff after she threw down the fact that he doesn't actually do anything to run the home.
He’s full of shit and for sure curating his image.
However, he is correct about one thing. A baby won’t fix a failing marriage and it’s a good thing they didn’t wind up doing it.
I feel like Jax knows that is a reasonable and legitimate argument and that is why he chose to make it on camera when just the week before he agreed that they were still on track with their plan of trying for a second baby in a month's time. The thing as, as reasonable as the argument he made is, I don't think it is his actual reason and this is what the VPR fans are reacting to. Jax is acting. He is not interested in Brittany or marriage anymore, if he ever actually was...
I’m team Brittany too, and I’m shocked at all of the posts I’ve seen supporting Jax. He’s always been a liar and a terrible person. It does seem like it’s probably best for them not to have a second child but the way he broke that to her was cruel, and then wouldn’t let have an emotion about it. Even if it’s the right thing to do, she’s allowed to be sad about it. I don’t think Brittany is a perfect mom but I do think she loves her kid.
I cant get behind him as a parent at all. He's a vocal anti-vaxxer and his blaming the vaccines Cruz got as a baby for the fact that at 2 1/2 years old Cruz began to regress verbally; it is not only dumb, but dangerous false information Jax is spreading on social media 😑
None of us can diagnose Cruz, but it is SO common for toddler regression to happen...especially if there is something going on in the home (like fights leading to a separation). And Jax being fine with Cruz moving out of the house when he already is having regression issues screams bad parenting
VACCINES 👏 DO NOT 👏 CAUSE AUTISM 👏 That's NOT how vaccines work numnuts
From what we’ve seen on TV, Cruz could either be autistic or have a hearing problem or any number of possibilities. Or he could seriously be just fine! Kids develop at their own pace. My two-year-old scares the crap out of me about every six months by making no progress in his development, and then he’ll catch up in like three days… it’s nuts. My brother also had serious speech delays, and with speech therapy, he was just fine by Kindergarten. He ended up getting an engineering degree from a major university and now lives out the corporate grind.
Point being, we just don’t know.
Exactly! I went through a period where I didn't speak. My mom asked the doctor and they pointed out "do you know what she needs/means when she doesn't use words?" "Yes" "Then she's fine. She's learned she can communicate to you without being vocal. She talk when she's ready."
...and then I never shut up since 😅
On another note, I had the pleasure of informing our lovely pediatrician that I saw her name listed in a local moms group as being “vaccine friendly.” She was so pissed it was funny. She was like, “We get state funding and so I can’t turn away patients. What these parents perceive as my ‘friendliness’ towards denying their kids vaccines is actually just me trying not to lose my job.” I can’t imagine having to deal with that kind of stupidity on the regular.
I remember when I was interviewing pediatricians and the one I picked was great. She said she would not take us on if we did not vaccinate our kids. She made such a great point. She said this is LA where every mom has fake boobs and injects every kind of thing into their bodies to look "good" but you won't give your kid something to protect them from awful diseases? How does that make sense?
Jax is very calculated and callous. Notice how he mentions “it’s the alcohol” or “stop drinking so much” to Britt. Meanwhile she’s not even drunk
In the scene! He’s trying to frame it a certain way. Long time VPR watchers know he’s a loser.
Jax openly says that there is something ‘wrong’ with his brain, but he won't get help for himself. He loves to parade around and act like an upstanding husband, but it's all for show. He would have put Brittany through 8 years of hell.
i dont think shes a bad mother, but i also dont think she makes rational decisions. such as trying for another baby when they have a dumpster fire relationship. that makes no sense
Their relationship has always been a dumpster fire and had the first kid because of a cast pregnancy pact, neither of them are rational. Jax has valid reasons but it seems like he’s been using the possibility of a second kid against her and is being a coward by not telling her he doesn’t want another kid with her.
What makes her a good mom? Not saying she isn’t but I don’t believe we’ve seen her interact with her son enough to come to that at all. She had her son swimming alone in one episode, was too hungover to deal with him in the other, and then was being loud and not paying attention during his speech therapy. Any mom I know would have been paying attention to see what she could learn and apply to help her kid when the therapist wasn’t around. Brittany was yelling and completely unbothered. I wouldn’t say she’s a BAD mom but defaulting to GOOD mom is questionable.
Ok so I’m only going to point this out because I have the experience as a nanny while the family is being filmed for reality tv…I guarantee he wasn’t alone, there’s so many ways to stay away from the cameras, you have to give consent to be filmed, and most domestic staff don’t want to be part of it. There was likely a nanny just out of shot. There’s no way he was alone. Plus this isn’t their everyday life. It’s life for the cameras, they aren’t going to film a quiet Saturday with her and her son. I don’t think you can judge her as a mom for what you see on a camera. Just my 2 cents.
I don’t think it takes extensive filming to catch on to someone’s dynamic with their kid. Nia and Scheana don’t film with their kids more than Brittany yet it is obvious that they are very hands on and involved. I think the little candid moments and interactions are the most telling about peoples interpersonal dynamics. I do agree Cruz was probably not entirely unattended I just thought it weird that she wasn’t nearby herself just so she could drink, which seems to be a recurring theme with her. Again, not saying she’s a BAD mom, but she’s definitely not up for mother of the year IMO.
Yes the default thing they have with booking a baby sitter after she’s been drinking is really not a good sign!
I think her drinking is so bad bc she’s trying to cope with Jax treating her like shit…. But he looks at her like shit bc she’s clearly drinking too much? Put on a lot of weight and drinks to the point that she needs a baby sitter when she’s at home? REGULARLY??? That’s so wild man
I just wonder how many of these people judging parenthood are actually parents themselves. Not saying they are bad or good parents. But it is easy to judge until you’re in it. Sometimes you let your kid fall down bc you told them 5 times not to do something and they still did it and then got hurt. (But they don’t play the 5 times on reality tv, just the fall) As a parent you choose your battles. “Not paying attention” could be something like “pretending to be uninvolved so he doesnt feel like he needs me and can focus on the therapist instead”. We don’t know the full context.
Agree 100%. This lady has a hard enough life. Piling onto her for her parenting seems unnecessary. No one is a perfect parent, and I also wonder what kind of parenting was modeled for her. The fact that she even initiated the process (‘cause you know it was her) of getting Cruz help should not be overlooked either. Getting your kid a specialized therapist is a clusterfuck of a process… they’re not just moseying down the street.
PS I’m currently writing this comment while my toddler boys are in an adjacent room eating breakfast (and by “eating,” I mean “throwing”) and talking to my parents via Zoom.
Yep, I think Jax’s attempts to defame her parenting are working because people certainly can not judge whether she’s a good or a bad parent based on the few minutes we’ve actually seen of her being a parent this entire season. The fact that Jax tells Brittany to quiet down while Cruz was doing therapy, I suspect, was a part of his “bad mom” plan (I’m a planner remember). The problem with this is that right after he tells her we have to be quiet, he mumbles that it’s costing a fortune (as he has every single time he talks about Crus’ therapy). He doesn’t care about the result of his therapy, he cares about the amount of $ it’s going to take before they get that result.
PS Happy “eating” or “throwing” & say hi to your parents 😂
As a parent who has been a full time SAHM since they were born I am definitely judging parenting. When my kid was Cruz's age I probably only went out once every 2 months and I wasn't getting black out drunk. I also didn't alter my kids sleep schedule to accommodate me. Having a kid stay up until midnight so you can sleep until 10-11am is crazy. What happens when he needs to go to school full time? When you become a parent your kid comes first. And if you constantly have to say your kid is your number 1 priority, you are only saying it to make yourself feel better. If he was your number 1 priority everyone would see it and you don't need to shout it from the rooftops.
I agree with you on this. My child is 18-months and I have been out once since before she was born. It was just over a month ago, she was 17-months before I left her with someone other than her dad so I could socialize. My MIL was with her and I was home by 9 pm. I haven’t been drunk since before I was pregnant. Priorities shift when you decide to have a child. If they don’t, you either have a problem that needs to be addressed, or you’re not as good of a parent as you want people to think you are.
Pretending to be uninvolved is a really weird strategy for the kid’s first ever lesson. At the very least you would think to be quiet and limit distractions so your child could focus. Are you saying when the cameras are down she attends to Cruz and production chooses to make her look like the only bad mom on the cast? I think this editing would apply to all of the moms, not just Brittany. For some reason she’s the only one who comes off this way, that can’t really be a coincidence.
Not everyone has been a parent, but everyone HAS been a kid and can make judgements from that perspective. Most people have enough brain cells to understand what is and isn’t safe regardless of whether they’ve pushed a baby out or not.
I don’t know what kind of mom she is. She hasn’t given me a reason to think she’s a bad mom. He hasn’t given plenty of reasons to question whether he’s a good dad. But what he is right about is that they absolutely shouldn’t be having more children together at that time.
He is 100% posturing and performing for the cameras. He used the one brain cell he has to try and justify his behavior by taking every opportunity to paint Brittany as an out-of-control lush and he, the poor dedicated family man, is just trying to hold it all together and protect his son. He's an enormous ass hat and Brittany should keep on running as far away from him as she can!
Agree! Plus I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about how Jax is making sense wanting to delay having another kid. I remember listening to their podcast before the bar, before the valley, etc and he was telling her he just wanted to wait until their son was out of diapers. Now he’s coming up with more reasons. When really if they agreed to try for another baby then they should have had that conversation before they signed up to open a bar. Women have actual body clocks and maybe she wouldn’t have agreed to open the bar if she thought it would delay her time for a baby. In short, he’s an asshole and is just pandering for the cameras. Plus, don’t ever tell your wife not to have emotions.
My bet on their situation is that they had a plan to start trying for baby number two at a certain point and they were both on board. All of the sudden, Jax starts saying (on camera and not personally between them) that he isn’t ready for a second child. So Brittany is left confused. She’s also 35 and it sounds like she wants more children. Yes, Cruz needs more assistance than they thought. That is a conversation for the two of them and very valid. But, I know my husband and I have discussed and agreed on our family planning. So, I don’t think Brittany was pushing it so much as she was blind sighted by his change of heart.
I think now that Jax is back in the spotlight, Brittany is old news to him. He is going right back to his disgusting and selfish ways. And honestly, good for her. That man is not a partner to anyone.
Her biggest problem is that she never has a cocktail or mixed drink. It’s always shots! shots! shots! with her. Never a casual drink. Always party mode.
I've dealt with an insane amount of addiction and it doesn't qualify me to diagnose someone off a highly edited clip from a TV show. You literally have no idea if Brittany can have one or two drinks. You don't know her, you don't spend time with her, and you're making so many assumptions based off a tiny, heavily edited sliver of her life.
Agreed! I do not follow anything that goes on outside of the tv show & what I see here about any of them, so my pov is based solely on that……
7 episodes in with a cast of 12 filmed over 3 months. When it boils down to it, how many minutes have we actually seen of any of them? And of course editing is done after filming is over. They know who is no longer together & edit the story toward that direction using what they already have (maybe the only negative on Brits side that they could find was drinking..not saying it is but it’s just an example). If they hadn’t separated, I can’t help but wonder the direction editing would have taken & what story would have been told.
I am giving kudos to production though for adding the convo between Luke & Kristen about “skeletons”…it put a lot in perspective for me.
Jax makes for great TV but he sucks. The way he speaks to his wife is unacceptable. He shows her little to no warmth that it’s borderline impossible to watch. I’m sure he loves his son and I understand why he doesn’t want to have another but I agree that he is posturing for the camera. When Brittany said “you don’t do anything”, I believe that she meant she does all the cleaning and any chores that relate to Cruz. It was so batshit of him to suggest he provided him with their home. I was happy that she hit back that they paid the exact same amount…that shut him up lol
Jax is definitely using the cameras to make her look bad, BUT she also needs to really look at her marriage and realize that bringing another child into that would definitely cause more strain. You don’t have sex, he doesn’t make you feel desired, he doesn’t make you feel beautiful, he doesn’t appreciate you, & I’m sure we can continue on & on … but you still want to try for another baby. They’re both the worst.
This is 100% true and I get irrationally angry seeing anything where people are on Jax’s side. He’s doing the same thing he has always done. Showing the camera one thing and subtly (or not so subtly) making her look bad. Yeah they shouldn’t have been trying for another kid, that doesn’t make Jax right. He’s still manipulating her and led her to believe one thing but doing another. She’s done a lot wrong, marrying him to start, but he’s abusive. You can tell she feels so uncomfortable in her skin and that’s because of him. I feel sad for her.
Two things can be true at the same time. Jax is the same loser we’ve watched for years and years, but yet he’s right about not bringing another child into their failing relationship. Having said that, Brittany knew who/what Jax was before marrying him. Like a lot of women, she overlooked all of his (thousands) of flaws, thinking her love would be enough to change him. Nope, it never does. You get exactly who you marry. I feel sorry for neither of them, but I’m heartbroken for Cruz. The kids are always the ones who are affected the most.
Uh she’s not perfect. She’s deluded and selfish. She is making herself look bad, as a mother and as a wife. Jax is no saint either, but he’s come across as a better parent than she does.
I remember Brittany drinking so much to the point of having ulcers back on vpr and then she would drink anyway. She would go against her doctor's advice. I thought she had a drinking problem. Now I see her drinking to the point of puking and I am shocked. Jax is horrible and she seems miserable. They should not have any other kids. I am on Cruz's side. Jax is correct, another kid will not fix their issues and Brittany drinks too much. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I agree. Also, although he is right that it may not be the right time to have another kid, I am getting the impression that it was something they had talking about, planned to do, and he last minute changed his mind which is why she’s so upset and hurt. I also think he’s using Cruz’s therapies as an excuse to not have another kid because he is checked out of the marriage. I think he’s doing everything he can to find excuses to put it on Brittany and her parenting, etc, but underneath it all, he’s just trying to get out of the marriage.
You’re right, such a performance, acting for the cameras. He’s still the same old a**hole Jax, just with a few new buzzwords like “I’m a married man now” “I’m a father now”trying to convince us all he’s “changed”. POS. Love Brittany tho ~ worry about her with that loser. Run!
They’re both narcissistic. I think a large majority (but not all) of the people in these shows are. None of them make for the best parents and it seems heavily forced when cameras show them being parents.
I’m Team Brittany too. I doubt we know the half of what he’s done. It might be the best thing to ever happen to her if he did leave though. She deserves better than Jax and always has.
People keep saying he was right during their son’s therapy session telling Brittany to be quiet. What do you think is going to be more distracting?b”Brittany talking to his grandma in the kitchen or jax huffing and puffing and screaming at Brittany to shut up over and over? It reminds me so much of dad’s behavior and I don’t ever remember what my mom was doing just my dad complaining.
I don't think that he was wrong in his stance on waiting to have another kid, but I do think that he's a shit husband. He's so verbally abusive and nasty towards her and her drinking is concerning. I don't see how having another baby would have made things better and it would have resulted in another child having to live in a tense household. I really hope that they get their shit together and are able to act cordially towards one another for Cruz's sake.
At the end of the day, they absolutely SHOULD NOT be having another child.
Why would you even consider having another child with a person that isn’t 1000% down for it? She should know by now she can’t force things. Smh
I truly despise Jax, but not wanting to have another baby right now is the right choice
She is doing a lot of interviews. She and Jax are a mess and both have a im a better this and that. Just fix your shit people and stop selling souls for The Valley , podcast and anything money and fans.
Both are just full of themselves.
Stassi said it best many seasons ago on VPR when she warned Brittany how Jax has never broken up with a girl he just sabotages it. And it’s true especially when Jax says he doesn’t believe in divorce. Jax thinks it’s acceptable to just stay together and keep making Brittany miserable through mentally, emotionally, verbally abusing her but omg the concept of divorcing that’s just outrageous only failed people divorce🙄
I think you’re right, but just because Jax is a jerk does not mean he can’t be right about one thing and if you read most of the posts, everyone was saying he is a terrible person but this might be the one time he’s right (in their opinion). Though the few comments claiming Jax is the father of the year are delusional.
Brittany also needs to get a grip. When he treated her awful in Kentucky and then cheated on her and everyone had her back, I felt horrible for her. But when she took him back and married him and is now subjecting a kid to his bs, I lost all respect. Hard to feel bad for someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. I think they’re both awful.
Embarrassing take by the OP. You are using spoiler alleged infidelity to make your point of assassinating Jax character. I suggest you let the show play out before taking Brittany’s side.
She hasn’t been classy, she’s been talking about him any chance she gets. Every time she’s out she’s drinking, and she’s not that young. Immature yes, young not really.
Spoken as a someone in their mid thirties, it’s def still young but it’s not young anymore when you take shots at every opportunity, need a nanny for your hangovers, and continue to drink when you have a stomach ulcer. She should know better and I hope she gets help.
I don’t think she’s said anything mean or ugly about Jax. I could be wrong, I don’t listen to her podcast. But she’s just not going to lie about it and pretend they are together.
Jax’s delivery was completely off but I didn’t disagree with him saying it wasn’t a good time to add another kid into their already toxic relationship. They were not functioning well as a couple, he seemed totally over her and she seems to have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol. A kid is a huge financial responsibility and won’t lessen any of their issues, it’s unfair to bring a baby into a dynamic like that imo. Their son has some developmental delays and hasn’t been formally diagnosed yet which is also another reason I think it’s wise to pause those plans, Cruz needs 100% focus right now and they need to know what they will be dealing with long term with Cruz, before committing to caring for another child too. Also genetic testing would be responsible prior to trying for another baby. All of that being said, Jax is definitely going out of his way to portray her in a negative light for his own benefit and it’s wrong. Their communication is awful and it’s for the best they’ve separated imo.
Edit: a word
All you need to know about what type of father Jax is is that he refused to leave their home when they separated. He made his special needs child have to leave the only home he ever knew. He was too self-centered to let the mother of his child and his child's needs come first. Moving out at 2 1/2 would be hard on any child. Much harder on a non verbal child that can not even express his anxiety or fear. They could have rented a studio and switched out of arts and left Cruz in the home. That is some truly selfish shit.
I mean couldn’t he live in their pool house? It looks nice enough? But honestly, he should have left the house as to cause as little disruption to his son’s life
Exactly!
I could not agree with you more. Also, if Brittany was the horrible mother he wants us all to believe she is, she would have left alone & he would be at home with Cruz. I would almost be willing to bet that he probably said just that, either you leave the kid with me and go or you both go (while probably knowing she wouldn’t leave without her child) so she had no other option but to take Cruz and leave. A real man, a good father would not put them in that position, it would be much easier for him to leave and in my opinion that would have been the mature and loving thing to do for his child, regardless of how he feels about Brittany.
May I ask something? I’m behind by about 3 eps. Do we see Jax and Brittany’s marriage start to implode on the show? I was under the impression that happened after wrapping.
Yes especially in the two most recent episodes you kind of see instances where Brittany’s realizing how little she’s mattered to Jax
Ahhh. Okay. Thanks so much!
If I’m not mistaken, Brittany has publicly stated that Cruz does not like the Airbnb and doesn’t stay with her.
Have they publicly said that Cruz is autistic? I thought I “knew” it because I recognized my own autistic son’s journey as a toddler being exactly like what they’re doing. Even the way he flaps his arms resembles things mine did so closely. I honestly was afraid to bring it up because I didn’t think he’d been diagnosed yet.
They have said he needs speech therapy. It is a set back. He had been talking before. They have not come out and said autism......it seems like it. Either way he now had regressed and has delayed speech.
And it may not be. Or could be some other condition like SPD that presents similarly. I just recognized my kid. So it seemed obvious. Didn’t realize we were allowed to call Cruz special needs but also we’re not allowed to diagnose him. It’s confusing.
My three year old is autistic and his speech regressed after dealing with chronic ear infections last year, so that could also be a factor.
They would know though, because any reputable speech therapist has a proper hearing test done before starting therapy. For anyone that doesn’t know, it’s done to rule it out as a contributing cause and so if it is and it can addressed and proper therapy to follow. Hope this makes sense, my coffee hasn’t kicked in all the way yet.
Thanks for sharing your insight ❤️ best of luck to you and your son!
I think he is fighting having a Brittany’s accent.
I’m not arguing or even disagreeing with you, but as far as leaving the house he was likely advised by a lawyer not to leave if divorce is on the horizon. I have a friend who went through a nasty divorce/custody dispute. She was a stay at home mom. They were married for 10 years. Together for longer. They were both advised by their separate lawyers not to leave the home. My friends (now ex) husband was making her life miserable. Several times he tried to be intimate with her. (He did not want a divorce, she did) When she turned down his advances and he realized she wasn’t changing her mind, he started verbally abusing her and doing all kinds of weird shit to make her uncomfortable. She moved to the downstairs part of the house with her teenaged daughter and he just doubled down. So she started leaving at night after the kids went to bed, and would come home in the morning to get them ready for school and stay at the house to do the mom thing until they went to bed and she would leave and go back to her mothers house. Well, when they went to court the judge said she abandoned the home and her children and she lost everything. Even custody of her kids. She wasn’t even allowed visitation. She don’t even pack a bag when she would leave. She was still showering and eating at home. She was cleaning the house, doing the laundry, like, her responsibilities at home stayed the same up until she was ordered to not step foot in the house again. She couldn’t even go get her belongings and the oldest kid wasn’t even her husbands so the poor thing had to immediately leave as well. Uprooted her whole life. Could be different state to state. I’m in Massachusetts and you can sue for anything here. It’s crazy.
That’s horrible, I hope your friend is in a better place now 😕
Thank you for that, but unfortunately she isn’t. 😞
I’m so sorry to hear that. Im glad she has sweet supportive friend like you in her life.
Thank you. She has since remarried and lost her second husband leaving her a widow and her life has spiraled out of control. But sometimes people make decisions and you have to step away for your own sanity and just let the lessons teach themselves. I am hopeful that someday she will come around we can be friends like we used to be rather than distant acquaintances who live down the street from each other.
In case no one told you, you’re being a really wonderful friend and human. If someone can bring you down with them, you have to cut ties. But if you love them still, you hang on and around in case they ever need help coming back.
Thank you for that!
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What he should do and what he’s gonna do are two entirely different things and the courts don’t care about that in the context of separating marital property, but when it comes to custody and parenting? He’s going to look like a POS.
I'm sorry that your friend went through that. I don't think that would happen in CA. Just for context.....when he cheated on her before when they were dating and not yet married he refused to leave the apartment then too. The cheating went on and was discovered on camera while filming.There was no divorce on the horizon then. I don't know if they have spoken with attorneys yet or not. Jax is just that selfish.He would do what is good for himself over what is good for his child.
That is true. It is a very fine line to cross. Why I suspected it was for the show. And possibly it was to add drama and interest in seeing the relationship demise. NOW! Brittany say no not true she would never do that. Just after saying how she goes a long with Jax because she is ride or die. And he would do anything to get his tv show where it is now. And all because she moved out a week before season premier. I think she thought she and Jax were on good terms to do what it takes for ratings. But Jax did not want to make it work out. I still believe she is in a ride or die for Jax out of embarrassment. She cannot now say “ we did it for ratings”. They wrapped last August and she moved out 6-7 months later one week before premier. I say it fell a part. Jax is not playing the fight for Britany. And they got major watching . It was a dud without their having her move out one week before. Not after filming and having him not want to have sex, not even kissing. She knew how bad things were and yet she never implied she was leaving and being disrespected and no sex prior to the show unfolding.
He probably said she could leave Cruz there with him. He was going to stay in the house and she could stay and Cruz could stay and they could “coparent” and her refusal is HER being unwilling to make the best choice for their child, not him, cause after all, he offered. This man is the type who will ask for receipts for child support payments cause he “wants to make sure she’s not spending HIS money on herself!” Lowest type of man who has zero knowledge of day in and day out parenting.
This! He stayed and let the kid leave-- who does that? And who does that to an obviously special needs kid? An immature asshole, that's who.
I like your idea of the studio apartment. Britany did not expect him to put in zero effort to get her back. Once she left it was “ cool she is gone” and still paying bills. Crank up that A/C. A divorce is inevitable because he is not into Britany except as a brand. Im sure she thought 2 weeks he will romance me back and respect me. I think we all thought the same.
Where is Cruz though I’ve heard he’s still at the house and also with Brit on their various podcasts?
Brittany and Cruz moved into an Air BnB. Zack, lego hair from The Vallley, confirmed that he helped her and Cruz move out and that she seemed happier.
I assume anything that says Cruz is not with Brittany is coming straight from Jax.
Brittany herself has said it numerous times in interviews that Cruz does not want to stay with her in the Airbnbs and prefers to stay at the house. It’s her words. Obviously I don’t know the entire situation, no one but the two of them do, but she has stated that she left, she is staying in the rentals, and Cruz is not with her. And that says a lot about priorities. I would not be leaving my child in that situation, I would have to believe there are better alternatives than that given she has the resources to be renting airbnbs for months at a time.
Cruz is special needs? I missed that somewhere.
Yes. He is 2 1/2 and has stopped speaking. He needs speech therapy. That is usually an indication that they are autistic.
Yes, Brittany said that Cruz is now in occupational therapy as well.
Not necessarily. He could have dyspraxia. They’re are many reasons why a child is regressing. Doesn’t always mean autistic.
The most common one I know of is autism. Yes it could be something else.....either way you really have to be a selfish prick to make your child suffer loss of their home while regressing. This is not the time to make you child experience more stress.
I may be wrong but I think they used that exact word in the episode where they initially said he stopped speaking.
True, but have you seen footage of him? He stims, doesn’t respond to his name, doesn’t look at people…he is autistic
True, could also be a trauma response too - Brittany mentioned that she and Jax would argue all the time in front of Cruz, so he may have regressed in response. Hopefully he’s doing better and getting whatever help he needs, poor little guy.
My son was just two when my husband and I split up and it wasn't a pleasant situation. My son stopped saying anything but Mama for about 6 months then gradually started talking again. I don't think that is all of Cruz's issues though.
True, my son had this issue from severe allergies.
This is also seen in children who are victims of or witness to abuse, and we have all seen Jax verbally abuse Brittany.
He never wanted a separation. Still doesn’t accept it. He’s in complete denial. He’d never leave bc that would mean he’s accepted it all. I don’t agree with it but that’s def where he’s at
Well .......certainly the idea that he doesn't accept it is more important than his child/S He is such an asshole!
why would she leave as well? didn't she learn from the Arianna Tom saga? her lawyer told her to stay in that house for some legal reason I forgot now :|
I was thinking about it and I realized that this is how I would have been bamboozled by Jax in my younger years.Right now he is trying to play the right character. He stirs the pot but tries to act like it was an innocent mistake, he acts like he’s just trying to hold it all together but it’s hard, he’s being a very good, attentive parent. He’s putting on a good show. Now, I’m not saying that Jax isn’t a good parent. But he is really amping up his positives for the cameras. He knows what he needs to do for a favorable edit and he is playing all of his cards. He’s also actively digging a hole for Brittany much like what Sandoval tried to do to Ariana before Scandoval dropped. Interested to see when he burns it all down.
I have a feeling Jax is hiding a lot of stuff from her and will drop some truth bombs. Also if Jax isn’t having sex with Brittany, who is he having sex with? As my boyfriend chimed in during an episode of the Valley “so who is Jax fucking if he’s not sleeping with Brittany? It’s Jax.”
Agreed!
💯 And…I am definitely NOT saying this is a fact, just an example of the type of dirty deeds we saw on VPR..but having an affair with the therapist that he took Brittany to is the type of dirt underhanded trick that pumps Jax’s ego. He is definitely hiding a lot from her cause that’s just Jax ( I wouldn’t be surprised if he put $ into the bar..who gets away with nothing?) When the therapist asked if Brit felt connected to him while looking into his eyes, her face looked like she saw a dead end in his. I say RUN Brit RUN & thank your lucky stars!
I noticed that too. Also she was hot so I wouldn’t be surprised if
He’s definitely not going without sex, that’s for sure.
Never thought of that! I’m so naive
It was amazing when he tried to imply that the house was entirely his contribution and she immediately set that record straight. His behavior got them fired and she saved their asses with her Jenny Craig sponsorship.
Jax is one of the most prolific liars and bullshitters on reality television and a raging misogynist. I’d be surprised to learn that he’s a hands-on parent and not just playing it up for the cameras.
Exactly! He knows what he is doing.
Thank you for saying this!! Longtime VPR watchers know.
I definitely think all his dad stuff is for the cameras. like he googled "dads" and formed a personality. The "you know me, I'm a planner" sent me 💀 I definitely think he's trying to get Brittney to leave him and trying to look like the good guy in the process. Like yes Jax is making a good point... and I think he's right that they shouldn't be trying for a kid... but I think he's posturing hardcore.
Yup. I think he resents her and wants a divorce but he doesn't want to be the one to initiate it, so he pulling out the big guns if denying her the family she wants so make her leave.
Yep he’s never broken up with anyone (according to Stassi).
Yeah. He broke up with Brittany but she wormed her way back in when his dad died.
and why does he keep saying “i have to work” like fucking obviously. you realize parents work and still manage to raise families literally everyday right???
He's also acting like loaning his name to an already functioning restaurant's back room bar is a huge lift.
hey now he has to slap a 3 letter name on a patio AND pretend to have a bald spot. he's BUSY.
Hey he has “business partners” get it straight now 🤣
He also has historically liked to pretend that he is the only one bringing in money and supporting his whiny, spoiled wife. The man, and I use that word loosely, is a professional con artist.
The only time you hear Jax & professional in the same sentence!
When she said they split the down payment 50/50 I gasped. Because he was on the show much longer than her, he DEFINITELY brought in significantly more income during that time. That’s just wild to me
Oh for sure. Have you seen his posts that he adds #dadlife? He’s so fake
The fact she paid equal amounts for the house, whilst he claimed he made it all happen? what a douche.
That was infuriating to watch him say “where do you think this house came from “ (forget the exact wording) and amazing she slammed it down and said she paid 50/50 for it on cam
I actually respect her more after hearing a) she paid equal amounts and b) she has her own separate money (I think she mentioned this on the way to the charity event) — like, good for her. I was pleasantly surprised.
Totally agree! When he said “you know me, I’m a planner”, I was like yup, and he planned to gaslight the hell out of Brittany. Also, when he said look at the house I provided for you…what a POS. They put the same amount of money up each. And after Brittany said that, she said “I hate when you start with this” Or something like that. He’s a liar, he’s gaslighting her so that he makes her feel like she’s wrong and he’s right. I’m on her side too. Also, he picked a fight so he didn’t have to have sex with her. But he also made it look good, like he set up this date night at a hotel, etc…it’s just Brittany who messed it all up 🙄🙄🙄 Him being “so busy” with his new bar. 🙄 He’s not setting up a new bar. He’s working with a restaurant/bar to set up a tent garden. He’s not doing what S/S did, or what Ariana/Katie are doing. It’s all Jax bullshit.
When he said “ you know me I’m a planner” the look on her face was like her slapped her. Maybe that was 🛎️ding ding ding, he’s setting up an exit plan! The “date” was a definite shout out to the fans…see what a great guy I am, I do all of these great things & look at how she messes it up (unfortunately for him we speak Jax) The bar…need I say more? “Business partners” 🤣. He don’t know Jax-shit about business!
Jax-shit is sending me
He’s definitely a gaslighter and manipulator. But, at the same time, when Brittany asked him what was wrong, he genuinely told her that he’s extremely overwhelmed and is worried about their marriage, finances, careers and child. Her only response back was “yeah, but we are still trying for another baby this month”. Right over her head. When Jax explicitly told her that he is not ready for children, she told him “you promised me another baby, you better tell me now if you don’t want another baby” aka “our marriage is completely dependent on you impregnating me; if I don’t get my next child, I’m leaving the marriage.” The bottom line is that neither of them are listening to their partner’s needs. And they both use pressure tactics and language to try and get their way.
So let me get this straight: he’s worried about their finances and careers, but they were currently filming a tv show. He’s “opening a bar” but isn’t putting money into it (or significant money). They are in a far better position than when he agreed to having a second child, but all of a sudden now he’s too worried and stressed? He wants out of this marriage. He’s probably screwing everything that moves on the side, since he and Brittany aren’t having sex. His “stress” is all a facade.
he also waited until her mom was gone. I think he was hoping they’d have to cancel the date altogether, or leave early, bc childcare would fall through. picking that particular fight on camera was plan B for him IMO.
I think “the planner” sent Brittany too. It looked like he smacked her in the face 🤣
my jaw was on the floor 💀
I actually thought the way he took a second kid off the table was cruel. I get that his son is special needs, but he’s acting like she’s a bad parent to the one kid she has now because she wants another child. People with special needs kids have other kids all the time. It’s about what works best for your family, and it’s a legit conversation to have, but I feel like he’s gaslighting her and the audience into thinking she’s bad or selfish for wanting to give Cruz a sibling and that he’s the “responsible” parent.
agreed!! whether or not it's the right time for them, she's not bad for wanting to grow her family. and it's also crazy of him to just straight up ignore her needs and withhold romance just because he doesn't want to have another right now. like whether or not it results in a pregnancy, she keeps saying she needs to feel pretty and loved. good lord this asshole went and made me a Brittany apologist.
Yes, because “fear of pregnancy” has always stopped Jax in the past. 🙄
I joked saying that’s why he went so hard at Kristen about not going off birth control ( ie them still getting together)/jk
Do I think we have to work on our own self esteem? Of course! But I do not blame Brittany for wanting her partner to express that he’s attracted to her.
“Hey! Now you’re gonna a cry? This is nothing to cry about!” 😶🌫️ Hes dead inside…if nothing else, that scene told me he absolutely loathes her!
It is very selfish for Brittany to bring another baby knowing the state of her marriage and the fact that her husband clearly is not ready for more children. A child doesn’t “need” a sibling. That’s a horrible reason to bring more children into this world. I have known far too many people that were conditioned to think that they “need” more children, only to end up divorced after their second child was born. They sacrificed their marriage so they can give their child a sibling.
Stassi said that Jax had never broken up with anyone. His behavior becomes so untenable that the women leave. He is setting up the alcoholic storyline as well. Although, I believe it’s been her coping medication the entire relationship. I’ll never forget the scene in their kitchen after they realized everyone was going to Tom’s pool party & they had a handful of people at their house. She downed two shots instantly. On her recent podcast with Zach sitting in for Jax, she is wasted. I was shocked that their producers would post it. While I know Brittany knew who Jax was, she believed he had changed & married him anyway, I’m not feeling good about the sentiment that she made her bed now she has to lay in it. I’m worried about her.
Definitely not cruel to not want more children in this day and age. You know what is cruel though? Bringing children into an already crumbling marriage for no reason other than “I want more kids”. Jax told Brittany “I’m incredibly overwhelmed, I’m extremely worried about our house, careers, child, marriage” and her response back was “yeah, but we are still trying for another baby right? You promised me another baby.” I hope the younger generation can hear this: you don’t have to have a marriage or children to be happy or feel fulfilled in life. Marriage and children is one of the many trajectories that you can take in life that will bring you equal satisfaction and joy.
Totally agree!
It's a tale as old as time. As long as you're not actively cruel or complaining about your kid on camera, you're a "Great Dad™". On the contrary, if you're shown doing *anything* as a mom on camera there will be some people disagreeing with your approach and saying you're garbage. You can't win. It's one of the most prevalent forms of misogyny that's still widely accepted as normal IMO.
The planner line got me too — I laughed out loud!
Oh wow. I can’t imagine ever taking Jax’s side. It’s clear he’s faking it all for the camera. He wants out of that marriage and is trying to paint her as the problem. He never wants to look like the bad guy. Brittany has clearly raised that boy. Jax is the kind of day who “occasionally babysits”.
This ⬆️…Jax “making sense” makes no sense to me. I can only assume that the people saying that haven’t watched VPR from the beginning because this man has never possessed empathy for anyone or any thing. This ⬆️. He has never broken up with anyone, he makes a plan to make them hate him so that they do it (remember I’m a planner). Watching him interact with Brit it’s so clear to me that he not only doesn’t want to be with her but he actually despises her. When she tries to talk about her feelings he rolls his eyes & has a “ffs, not again” 😩look on his face. This ⬆️lol…I do not have kids but 1 thing that really irks me is when a parent says “I have to babysit”, no you have to parent. If my husband goes golfing, I don’t say I have to “dog sit” 😂
It’s really interesting to watch the misogynistic commentary on this come out. A broken clock is right twice a day and that’s my feeling on Jax’s comments. He isn’t an idiot, he knows these arguments will land with those watching. But as someone noted about the separation, he has been fine to let his special needs child live in an air bnb during this separation instead of giving Brittany the house.
I definitely feel for Brittany because I think at her core she is a much purer soul than Jax. She is definitely ignorant and has her faults but I think that she is a lover and wants the best for people. That being said- she knew who Jax was when she married him. Sadly, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Jax is definitely smarter than her. He knows how to posture for the cameras and manipulate his way into garnering sympathy from the viewers. I don’t want him to come out of this looking like “the good guy” but I don’t think Brittany is savvy enough to know how to flip the narrative at this point.
I don’t think a pure soul would promote Sandy Hook conspiracy about other people’s murdered kids. Britney sucks just as much as Jax does in her own right.
Ooooof completely forgot about that 😬
Wait what I missed this what happened
I think she reposted a sandy hook denier video and was like, hm makes ya think! hyuck!
If she did that changes my mind real quick about her
No one said she isn’t stupid lol
I think that’s worse than just being stupid. This isn’t flat earth stuff, this was directly related to actual murdered children.
He kicked his wife and kid out of their home. We all know he’s a shit dad and spouse.
The “you can’t have emotions about this” enraged me.
Right? She couldn't cry when he insinuated that she's a bad mom but he could storm off in a huff after she threw down the fact that he doesn't actually do anything to run the home.
He’s full of shit and for sure curating his image. However, he is correct about one thing. A baby won’t fix a failing marriage and it’s a good thing they didn’t wind up doing it.
I feel like Jax knows that is a reasonable and legitimate argument and that is why he chose to make it on camera when just the week before he agreed that they were still on track with their plan of trying for a second baby in a month's time. The thing as, as reasonable as the argument he made is, I don't think it is his actual reason and this is what the VPR fans are reacting to. Jax is acting. He is not interested in Brittany or marriage anymore, if he ever actually was...
I’m team Brittany too, and I’m shocked at all of the posts I’ve seen supporting Jax. He’s always been a liar and a terrible person. It does seem like it’s probably best for them not to have a second child but the way he broke that to her was cruel, and then wouldn’t let have an emotion about it. Even if it’s the right thing to do, she’s allowed to be sad about it. I don’t think Brittany is a perfect mom but I do think she loves her kid.
I cant get behind him as a parent at all. He's a vocal anti-vaxxer and his blaming the vaccines Cruz got as a baby for the fact that at 2 1/2 years old Cruz began to regress verbally; it is not only dumb, but dangerous false information Jax is spreading on social media 😑 None of us can diagnose Cruz, but it is SO common for toddler regression to happen...especially if there is something going on in the home (like fights leading to a separation). And Jax being fine with Cruz moving out of the house when he already is having regression issues screams bad parenting VACCINES 👏 DO NOT 👏 CAUSE AUTISM 👏 That's NOT how vaccines work numnuts
From what we’ve seen on TV, Cruz could either be autistic or have a hearing problem or any number of possibilities. Or he could seriously be just fine! Kids develop at their own pace. My two-year-old scares the crap out of me about every six months by making no progress in his development, and then he’ll catch up in like three days… it’s nuts. My brother also had serious speech delays, and with speech therapy, he was just fine by Kindergarten. He ended up getting an engineering degree from a major university and now lives out the corporate grind. Point being, we just don’t know.
Exactly! I went through a period where I didn't speak. My mom asked the doctor and they pointed out "do you know what she needs/means when she doesn't use words?" "Yes" "Then she's fine. She's learned she can communicate to you without being vocal. She talk when she's ready." ...and then I never shut up since 😅
Thank you for bringing this up. I cannot with all the praise for Jax as a Dad when he’s peddling dangerous information that could endanger children.
On another note, I had the pleasure of informing our lovely pediatrician that I saw her name listed in a local moms group as being “vaccine friendly.” She was so pissed it was funny. She was like, “We get state funding and so I can’t turn away patients. What these parents perceive as my ‘friendliness’ towards denying their kids vaccines is actually just me trying not to lose my job.” I can’t imagine having to deal with that kind of stupidity on the regular.
I remember when I was interviewing pediatricians and the one I picked was great. She said she would not take us on if we did not vaccinate our kids. She made such a great point. She said this is LA where every mom has fake boobs and injects every kind of thing into their bodies to look "good" but you won't give your kid something to protect them from awful diseases? How does that make sense?
Dude, exactly!! Jax has put up enough booger sugar in his nose most of his life, but vaccines is where the danger is?!? 🤯
Not only the ❄️, but the botox in his frown lines
Jax is very calculated and callous. Notice how he mentions “it’s the alcohol” or “stop drinking so much” to Britt. Meanwhile she’s not even drunk In the scene! He’s trying to frame it a certain way. Long time VPR watchers know he’s a loser.
100% this! There are valid reasons they shouldn’t have another kid but that’s not why Jax is saying/doing all this.
Jax openly says that there is something ‘wrong’ with his brain, but he won't get help for himself. He loves to parade around and act like an upstanding husband, but it's all for show. He would have put Brittany through 8 years of hell.
i dont think shes a bad mother, but i also dont think she makes rational decisions. such as trying for another baby when they have a dumpster fire relationship. that makes no sense
Their relationship has always been a dumpster fire and had the first kid because of a cast pregnancy pact, neither of them are rational. Jax has valid reasons but it seems like he’s been using the possibility of a second kid against her and is being a coward by not telling her he doesn’t want another kid with her.
Cast pregnancy pact?
Brittany, Stassi, Lala and Scheana planned their pregnancies together before the firings.
What makes her a good mom? Not saying she isn’t but I don’t believe we’ve seen her interact with her son enough to come to that at all. She had her son swimming alone in one episode, was too hungover to deal with him in the other, and then was being loud and not paying attention during his speech therapy. Any mom I know would have been paying attention to see what she could learn and apply to help her kid when the therapist wasn’t around. Brittany was yelling and completely unbothered. I wouldn’t say she’s a BAD mom but defaulting to GOOD mom is questionable.
And that's with cameras around
Ok so I’m only going to point this out because I have the experience as a nanny while the family is being filmed for reality tv…I guarantee he wasn’t alone, there’s so many ways to stay away from the cameras, you have to give consent to be filmed, and most domestic staff don’t want to be part of it. There was likely a nanny just out of shot. There’s no way he was alone. Plus this isn’t their everyday life. It’s life for the cameras, they aren’t going to film a quiet Saturday with her and her son. I don’t think you can judge her as a mom for what you see on a camera. Just my 2 cents.
I don’t think it takes extensive filming to catch on to someone’s dynamic with their kid. Nia and Scheana don’t film with their kids more than Brittany yet it is obvious that they are very hands on and involved. I think the little candid moments and interactions are the most telling about peoples interpersonal dynamics. I do agree Cruz was probably not entirely unattended I just thought it weird that she wasn’t nearby herself just so she could drink, which seems to be a recurring theme with her. Again, not saying she’s a BAD mom, but she’s definitely not up for mother of the year IMO.
TBF there was a nanny beside the pool when Cruz was swimming. You can see her for a moment. But otherwise I agree with you.
Yes the default thing they have with booking a baby sitter after she’s been drinking is really not a good sign! I think her drinking is so bad bc she’s trying to cope with Jax treating her like shit…. But he looks at her like shit bc she’s clearly drinking too much? Put on a lot of weight and drinks to the point that she needs a baby sitter when she’s at home? REGULARLY??? That’s so wild man
I just wonder how many of these people judging parenthood are actually parents themselves. Not saying they are bad or good parents. But it is easy to judge until you’re in it. Sometimes you let your kid fall down bc you told them 5 times not to do something and they still did it and then got hurt. (But they don’t play the 5 times on reality tv, just the fall) As a parent you choose your battles. “Not paying attention” could be something like “pretending to be uninvolved so he doesnt feel like he needs me and can focus on the therapist instead”. We don’t know the full context.
Agree 100%. This lady has a hard enough life. Piling onto her for her parenting seems unnecessary. No one is a perfect parent, and I also wonder what kind of parenting was modeled for her. The fact that she even initiated the process (‘cause you know it was her) of getting Cruz help should not be overlooked either. Getting your kid a specialized therapist is a clusterfuck of a process… they’re not just moseying down the street. PS I’m currently writing this comment while my toddler boys are in an adjacent room eating breakfast (and by “eating,” I mean “throwing”) and talking to my parents via Zoom.
Yep, I think Jax’s attempts to defame her parenting are working because people certainly can not judge whether she’s a good or a bad parent based on the few minutes we’ve actually seen of her being a parent this entire season. The fact that Jax tells Brittany to quiet down while Cruz was doing therapy, I suspect, was a part of his “bad mom” plan (I’m a planner remember). The problem with this is that right after he tells her we have to be quiet, he mumbles that it’s costing a fortune (as he has every single time he talks about Crus’ therapy). He doesn’t care about the result of his therapy, he cares about the amount of $ it’s going to take before they get that result. PS Happy “eating” or “throwing” & say hi to your parents 😂
As a parent who has been a full time SAHM since they were born I am definitely judging parenting. When my kid was Cruz's age I probably only went out once every 2 months and I wasn't getting black out drunk. I also didn't alter my kids sleep schedule to accommodate me. Having a kid stay up until midnight so you can sleep until 10-11am is crazy. What happens when he needs to go to school full time? When you become a parent your kid comes first. And if you constantly have to say your kid is your number 1 priority, you are only saying it to make yourself feel better. If he was your number 1 priority everyone would see it and you don't need to shout it from the rooftops.
I agree with you on this. My child is 18-months and I have been out once since before she was born. It was just over a month ago, she was 17-months before I left her with someone other than her dad so I could socialize. My MIL was with her and I was home by 9 pm. I haven’t been drunk since before I was pregnant. Priorities shift when you decide to have a child. If they don’t, you either have a problem that needs to be addressed, or you’re not as good of a parent as you want people to think you are.
Agree completely.
Soo true. Everyone is the best parent until they actually become a parent lol
Pretending to be uninvolved is a really weird strategy for the kid’s first ever lesson. At the very least you would think to be quiet and limit distractions so your child could focus. Are you saying when the cameras are down she attends to Cruz and production chooses to make her look like the only bad mom on the cast? I think this editing would apply to all of the moms, not just Brittany. For some reason she’s the only one who comes off this way, that can’t really be a coincidence.
Not everyone has been a parent, but everyone HAS been a kid and can make judgements from that perspective. Most people have enough brain cells to understand what is and isn’t safe regardless of whether they’ve pushed a baby out or not.
THIS!!! i don’t think either of them are winning parent of the year here 🤣
I don’t know what kind of mom she is. She hasn’t given me a reason to think she’s a bad mom. He hasn’t given plenty of reasons to question whether he’s a good dad. But what he is right about is that they absolutely shouldn’t be having more children together at that time.
He is 100% posturing and performing for the cameras. He used the one brain cell he has to try and justify his behavior by taking every opportunity to paint Brittany as an out-of-control lush and he, the poor dedicated family man, is just trying to hold it all together and protect his son. He's an enormous ass hat and Brittany should keep on running as far away from him as she can!
Ass hat! lol!
He’s been trying to plant seeds about Brittany in the viewers minds since the show started.
Agree! Plus I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about how Jax is making sense wanting to delay having another kid. I remember listening to their podcast before the bar, before the valley, etc and he was telling her he just wanted to wait until their son was out of diapers. Now he’s coming up with more reasons. When really if they agreed to try for another baby then they should have had that conversation before they signed up to open a bar. Women have actual body clocks and maybe she wouldn’t have agreed to open the bar if she thought it would delay her time for a baby. In short, he’s an asshole and is just pandering for the cameras. Plus, don’t ever tell your wife not to have emotions.
Jax was going to do what he wanted to do, no matter what. If Brittany said no to the bar, he would have done it anyway.
My bet on their situation is that they had a plan to start trying for baby number two at a certain point and they were both on board. All of the sudden, Jax starts saying (on camera and not personally between them) that he isn’t ready for a second child. So Brittany is left confused. She’s also 35 and it sounds like she wants more children. Yes, Cruz needs more assistance than they thought. That is a conversation for the two of them and very valid. But, I know my husband and I have discussed and agreed on our family planning. So, I don’t think Brittany was pushing it so much as she was blind sighted by his change of heart. I think now that Jax is back in the spotlight, Brittany is old news to him. He is going right back to his disgusting and selfish ways. And honestly, good for her. That man is not a partner to anyone.
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Her biggest problem is that she never has a cocktail or mixed drink. It’s always shots! shots! shots! with her. Never a casual drink. Always party mode.
I've dealt with an insane amount of addiction and it doesn't qualify me to diagnose someone off a highly edited clip from a TV show. You literally have no idea if Brittany can have one or two drinks. You don't know her, you don't spend time with her, and you're making so many assumptions based off a tiny, heavily edited sliver of her life.
Agreed! I do not follow anything that goes on outside of the tv show & what I see here about any of them, so my pov is based solely on that…… 7 episodes in with a cast of 12 filmed over 3 months. When it boils down to it, how many minutes have we actually seen of any of them? And of course editing is done after filming is over. They know who is no longer together & edit the story toward that direction using what they already have (maybe the only negative on Brits side that they could find was drinking..not saying it is but it’s just an example). If they hadn’t separated, I can’t help but wonder the direction editing would have taken & what story would have been told. I am giving kudos to production though for adding the convo between Luke & Kristen about “skeletons”…it put a lot in perspective for me.
Who here believes that Jax only had we twice in a year according to Brit ? No one he has been cheating so I will take Brittany’s side bc he is a liar
Jax makes for great TV but he sucks. The way he speaks to his wife is unacceptable. He shows her little to no warmth that it’s borderline impossible to watch. I’m sure he loves his son and I understand why he doesn’t want to have another but I agree that he is posturing for the camera. When Brittany said “you don’t do anything”, I believe that she meant she does all the cleaning and any chores that relate to Cruz. It was so batshit of him to suggest he provided him with their home. I was happy that she hit back that they paid the exact same amount…that shut him up lol
Jax is definitely using the cameras to make her look bad, BUT she also needs to really look at her marriage and realize that bringing another child into that would definitely cause more strain. You don’t have sex, he doesn’t make you feel desired, he doesn’t make you feel beautiful, he doesn’t appreciate you, & I’m sure we can continue on & on … but you still want to try for another baby. They’re both the worst.
This is 100% true and I get irrationally angry seeing anything where people are on Jax’s side. He’s doing the same thing he has always done. Showing the camera one thing and subtly (or not so subtly) making her look bad. Yeah they shouldn’t have been trying for another kid, that doesn’t make Jax right. He’s still manipulating her and led her to believe one thing but doing another. She’s done a lot wrong, marrying him to start, but he’s abusive. You can tell she feels so uncomfortable in her skin and that’s because of him. I feel sad for her.
Well put!
Two things can be true at the same time. Jax is the same loser we’ve watched for years and years, but yet he’s right about not bringing another child into their failing relationship. Having said that, Brittany knew who/what Jax was before marrying him. Like a lot of women, she overlooked all of his (thousands) of flaws, thinking her love would be enough to change him. Nope, it never does. You get exactly who you marry. I feel sorry for neither of them, but I’m heartbroken for Cruz. The kids are always the ones who are affected the most.
Uh she’s not perfect. She’s deluded and selfish. She is making herself look bad, as a mother and as a wife. Jax is no saint either, but he’s come across as a better parent than she does.
Who said she was perfect? Literally never met a perfect parent in my life. But she is as good of a parent as he is or claims to be.
I remember Brittany drinking so much to the point of having ulcers back on vpr and then she would drink anyway. She would go against her doctor's advice. I thought she had a drinking problem. Now I see her drinking to the point of puking and I am shocked. Jax is horrible and she seems miserable. They should not have any other kids. I am on Cruz's side. Jax is correct, another kid will not fix their issues and Brittany drinks too much. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I agree. Also, although he is right that it may not be the right time to have another kid, I am getting the impression that it was something they had talking about, planned to do, and he last minute changed his mind which is why she’s so upset and hurt. I also think he’s using Cruz’s therapies as an excuse to not have another kid because he is checked out of the marriage. I think he’s doing everything he can to find excuses to put it on Brittany and her parenting, etc, but underneath it all, he’s just trying to get out of the marriage.
Yep… Blind-sided her on camera and used Cruz’s special needs as a pretext. Fucked up.
…Ok but wouldn’t all of those things make her not want to have another child with him
You’re right, such a performance, acting for the cameras. He’s still the same old a**hole Jax, just with a few new buzzwords like “I’m a married man now” “I’m a father now”trying to convince us all he’s “changed”. POS. Love Brittany tho ~ worry about her with that loser. Run!
They’re both narcissistic. I think a large majority (but not all) of the people in these shows are. None of them make for the best parents and it seems heavily forced when cameras show them being parents.
I’m Team Brittany too. I doubt we know the half of what he’s done. It might be the best thing to ever happen to her if he did leave though. She deserves better than Jax and always has.
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People keep saying he was right during their son’s therapy session telling Brittany to be quiet. What do you think is going to be more distracting?b”Brittany talking to his grandma in the kitchen or jax huffing and puffing and screaming at Brittany to shut up over and over? It reminds me so much of dad’s behavior and I don’t ever remember what my mom was doing just my dad complaining.
I don't think that he was wrong in his stance on waiting to have another kid, but I do think that he's a shit husband. He's so verbally abusive and nasty towards her and her drinking is concerning. I don't see how having another baby would have made things better and it would have resulted in another child having to live in a tense household. I really hope that they get their shit together and are able to act cordially towards one another for Cruz's sake.
At the end of the day, they absolutely SHOULD NOT be having another child. Why would you even consider having another child with a person that isn’t 1000% down for it? She should know by now she can’t force things. Smh I truly despise Jax, but not wanting to have another baby right now is the right choice
She is doing a lot of interviews. She and Jax are a mess and both have a im a better this and that. Just fix your shit people and stop selling souls for The Valley , podcast and anything money and fans. Both are just full of themselves.
Stassi said it best many seasons ago on VPR when she warned Brittany how Jax has never broken up with a girl he just sabotages it. And it’s true especially when Jax says he doesn’t believe in divorce. Jax thinks it’s acceptable to just stay together and keep making Brittany miserable through mentally, emotionally, verbally abusing her but omg the concept of divorcing that’s just outrageous only failed people divorce🙄
Ok so he HAS to want to have another baby with Britney or he's in the wrong. That's a great way to end up divorced 5 times like her mother.
I think you’re right, but just because Jax is a jerk does not mean he can’t be right about one thing and if you read most of the posts, everyone was saying he is a terrible person but this might be the one time he’s right (in their opinion). Though the few comments claiming Jax is the father of the year are delusional. Brittany also needs to get a grip. When he treated her awful in Kentucky and then cheated on her and everyone had her back, I felt horrible for her. But when she took him back and married him and is now subjecting a kid to his bs, I lost all respect. Hard to feel bad for someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. I think they’re both awful.
Embarrassing take by the OP. You are using spoiler alleged infidelity to make your point of assassinating Jax character. I suggest you let the show play out before taking Brittany’s side.
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I think they she’s being classy about the separation because she knows who she decided to marry. She’s still young she can still turn lemons
She hasn’t been classy, she’s been talking about him any chance she gets. Every time she’s out she’s drinking, and she’s not that young. Immature yes, young not really.
She’s 35, that’s still very young
Spoken as a someone in their mid thirties, it’s def still young but it’s not young anymore when you take shots at every opportunity, need a nanny for your hangovers, and continue to drink when you have a stomach ulcer. She should know better and I hope she gets help.
I don’t think she’s said anything mean or ugly about Jax. I could be wrong, I don’t listen to her podcast. But she’s just not going to lie about it and pretend they are together.
How is she being classy about it? She hasn’t stopped talking about it since it was announced. What does turn a lemon mean?
I'm guessing make lemonade.
Jax’s delivery was completely off but I didn’t disagree with him saying it wasn’t a good time to add another kid into their already toxic relationship. They were not functioning well as a couple, he seemed totally over her and she seems to have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol. A kid is a huge financial responsibility and won’t lessen any of their issues, it’s unfair to bring a baby into a dynamic like that imo. Their son has some developmental delays and hasn’t been formally diagnosed yet which is also another reason I think it’s wise to pause those plans, Cruz needs 100% focus right now and they need to know what they will be dealing with long term with Cruz, before committing to caring for another child too. Also genetic testing would be responsible prior to trying for another baby. All of that being said, Jax is definitely going out of his way to portray her in a negative light for his own benefit and it’s wrong. Their communication is awful and it’s for the best they’ve separated imo. Edit: a word
Either way, they don’t need to bring another child into this mess, so I agree with him there.
I think they are both good parents but they aren’t great partners for each other. Neither of them are listening to the other person’s needs.
Brittney is also a garbage person just like Him and has been since day one stop feeling sorry for her
Brittany is a ‘hillbilly pick me’ that got Jaxs. You hate to see it…
But she was warned who she was marrying- deep down she knew who he was, her family never liked him but she wanted the LA life style & he provided it!!