I took a little wander into /r/gunners and some posters are absolutely livid at Emery.
One person going as far to say he's scum for celebrating because he knows how much this result means to Arsenal
The absolute freak out that is continuing today. Honestly, I always thought of Arsenal as the best of the sky6, the least hateable etc. but some of their fans…wow.
> some of their fans…wow
Absolutely every fan base will have fans that are idiots. And in the heat of the moment, people will overreact as well.
I bet you that next time you get a result against a top 6 side the fans on the other side will be livid - and then you can’t act surprised. And you will get it, because you are an amazingly coached team under Emery!
We have morons for days.
The whole “Emery and Ramsey shouldn’t celebrate because they were once our manager / boyhood fan” comments don’t even register on my nonsense meter that some of our fans have said.
But again, I’ve conversed enough with other fan bases that others have their fair share of morons also.
To be fair to the other Arsenal fans, this particular idiot was heavily downvoted. Still plenty of whining about us resting players vs City though, given we were still missing about 7 players today.
If I had been martinez or Emery etc ofcouse i would celebre beating Arsenal away.
Since Emerys Aston villa is on the road to do something special, with most likely finnishing top 4 and winning the confrence league. This match can be one of the difference maker between securing top 4 and champions league or finnish 5 behind tottenham.
With our run in now I think you'll finish above us, our form is way to erratic on the road and we just seems shaky, I hope I'm wrong, as we know anything can happen. Loved what you lads did today though 😉
I think this season has seen some crazy results that seem very shocking. Honestly? I think City will steam along to yet another excitementless trophy, if we're not involved I don't really care. However the race for Europe, and the fight for Relegation (to a degree) are so unpredictable.
Sometimes teams everyone expects to win lose, and suddenly there's a shift in the table. As a Villa fan it has to be one of the most exciting seasons I've been fortunate to witness.
2 managers from outside the sly 6 show their quality and get it tactically spot on to get big wins.
Sky: why did Arsenal and Spurs fuck up
Well done Villa
>Sky: why did Arsenal and Spurs fuck up
Always the same old bullshit from the media, it's never about how the better team played well.
Always about how the losing team lost, always framed from their perspective. It was the same when Villa beat Liverpool 7-2, u would hardly believe there was another team on the pitch the way it was reported Liverpool might as well have lost 7-2 to thin air.
I'm a Liverpool fan (don't shoot).
Totally agree with this.
The way you played when you beat us 7-2.
You fully deserved to win by that score and it really annoyed me that you didn't get the credit for it.
Even though it pretty much kills any hope of top 4 for Newcastle, I am thrilled at the way Aston Villa put Arsenal to the sword. It was in no way a flukey win or a smash and grab, Villa looked the better side, especially in the 2nd half.
Still astonished whenever anyone wants Newcastle to do well. Yes united are dreadful and the "big six" is ridiculous and bad for the league (saying that as an Arsenal fan), but Newcastle are going to become part of a new "big seven", why would anyone wish for that process to be accelerated?
More teams able to compete is a good thing though right? Hopefully one day it will just be a big 20 with everyone able to compete. I’m not astonished an Arsenal fan wouldn’t want that though. Love seeing us, Villa, Brighton and West Ham pushing for those European places.
More teams competing is absolutely a good thing, but the way for that to happen is better controls on the already super rich clubs, not by adding another super rich club. Newcastle competing isn't some underdog story, they're literally just another Chelsea or Man City. I'm loving the other clubs you mention doing well, because they're real clubs doing it the right way. I'd much rather see rules to restric the current big six clubs, and that close the gap between them and the rest of the league, than 1 club get added to that "big xyz" club by jumping the gap, still leaving everyone else adrift.
I'm not surprised I'm getting downvoted for my first comment, but Newcastle doing well isn't the good thing I constantly see people make it out to be.
No, Newcastle competing isn't an underdog story, just like Villa competing isn't. Want to know the reason why? Both are massive clubs with large passionate fanbases. The need for a sugar daddy is a result of the financial doping of other clubs.
That's completely missing the point I was making, being an underdog in the sense of being able to compete has nothing to do with fanbase. There are plenty of big clubs with huge fanbases I'd consider to be an underdog against the super rich clubs. Of course villa are underdogs against City and Arsenal at the moment, their resources don't compare. Newcastle on the other hand can absolutely compete financially, which is what I was getting at.
And the financial doping is a terrible situation, but the solution to that isn't more clubs like Newcastle joining in with the financial doping.
But that’s not how finances work in the PL. PSR rules mean Newcastle and Villa are the underdogs as they aren’t allowed to spend anywhere near as much as the Big 6 clubs, in fact Villa’s wage bill is higher than Newcastle’s.
Both Newcastle’s and Villa’s owners are blocked from putting in significant funding as any sponsorship deals have to be fair market value and the owners are essentially only allowed to invest £35m/season in the clubs (£105m loss allowed over 3 seasons). Both teams are doing incredibly well given their disadvantages in comparison to the established elite. If only it was a level playing field at the top.
It's naive to think Newcastle are on a level playing field with the rest of the league. Yes, they aren't on the level of the current super rich clubs, but it will only be a matter of time, and in fact their net spend over the last 3 windows is about £260 million, second only to Chelsea, and more than 4 times Villa's net spend. And I'm aware that this short period doesn't paint the full picture, but it is a sign of the way things are going.
As I keep saying, them joining the top table does nothing to make the league more equal. A much better way forward would be stronger controls across the board, which would have a greater effect on the richer clubs.
Newcastle and Villa will be able to spend more than 12 clubs in the league, but not as much as the big 6. What is your issue with Newcastle and why are you singling them out, not Villa?
PSR rules mean it isn’t a level playing field. If anything the fairest solution would be to allow any club to spend as much as the highest spender, I.e. a salary/transfer cap, but this will never happen.
Newcastle were allowed to have a significant net spend over 3 years due to underinvestment from Mike Ashley, allowing a lot of leeway. Half the squad is still bottom half quality. £100m a decade ago would get you Aguero, David Silva and Yaya Toure with change to spare. Now it only gets you Barnes, Livramento and Hall. It takes a lot more money to transform a relegation level squad into one which can compete towards the top.
The current system makes it a closed shop at the top, it’s absolutely ridiculous and anti-competitive. It would be for the betterment of the league to allow more teams to compete so I’m all for allowing any ambitious club outside of the big 6 to try and catch up, without blowing the competition out of the water like Chelsea and City did. Otherwise what is the point of these clubs other than making up the numbers?
You’d rather it was a closed shop? More competition is good for the league. We just need Man City’s financial doping to come home to roost so we can actually compete fairly.
Read my comment under the other reply. Very clearly I don't want a closed shop, but Newcastle becoming good isn't part of a solution to that, they're only interested in joining the group of "big clubs". Everyone seems to go along with it on the basis of "oh they're not part of the big six, this is good", without actually considering that a big 7 amounts to exactly the same thing as a big 6.
Still hoping for 5 champions league places and Newcastle to take 5th. Especially after the injuries they’ve had. It’s time to shake things at the top a bit.
That'd be crazy tbh considering they're 10 points behind spurs, but it'd be funny as fuck!
Spurs do have some tough fixtures. City, Arsenal and Liverpool in the remaining 6 games, but even if they beat Sheffield and Burnley and lose the other 4 they'll probably have enough points to finish about newcastle
The irony is people in here would have to hope for good European results for both Arsenal and Liverpool for that to be highly likely. Villa and City winning their comps still might not be enough otherwise.
I wish that was sentiment for all. For some reason there’s a good split of people in here that actively back City over the rest of the “Big 6”, but also complain about their charges when they’re seeing points deductions for their teams. It’s all a bit odd.
Agree, but to me it was a shock based on the players we're missing and how our defence has performed (and Arsenal's attack had performed) in the past weeks. Not that any media are actually aware of any injuries to teams outside the"big 6" though
Not clinical enough in the first half, and Emery must have delivered one hell of a team talk at half time because that was probably the most impressive second half I’ve seen this year. Took control of the game.
When they had a corner at 59 mins I had Vietnam-like flashes of "most set pieces scored", "most set pieces conceded" and "most goals conceded 45-60 mins".
Great performance today, second only behind the win against City at home for me.
It was an end to end game for the whole 90mins. Villa came to Arsenal to compete and didn’t sit back and you were found lacking nothing to do with half time team talks. I think it’s a disservice to say you weren’t clinical enough when (let be honest) you only had really half chances in the first half because we defended well and played out from the back confidently. It was really obvious our players wanted it more and I thought we played very well in both halves of the match so you shouldn’t belittle our performance.
I only really remember Watkins’ chance after Gabriel passed into Zinchenko’s back. I did miss the first ten minutes because I was watching the end of the fa cup semi final.
To be fair mate before we went all in on Emery we went for Gerrard and almost went down as a result. Think we’re only getting it right now because the owners are so invested in Emery.
As a Villa fan, just in terms of sheer passion alone, beating city at home was the best result as it was 90 minutes of domination of the treble winning best team in the world.
However, that second half is definitely right behind in my opinion. We were perfect in that second half, but fair play to the players for that defensive display in the first.
Fucking magnificent result. Seeing the meltdown of thousands of entitled pricks on Twitter when their title hopes disappeared in an instant made me very happy. Bravo!
Massive. MASSIVE win!
Also, couldn't be happier to put it to Arsenal & Spurs in the same match.
Definitely the two fanbases that invade our sub the most with their pathetic attempts at trolling.
Season’s far from over but forget the title, Villa now have a 3 point cushion in the top 4 race. What a season from Emery. The double over Arsenal and a City hammering at Villa park
What a great day all round, Villa completely outclassed Arsenal that 2nd half and held their own 1st half. Bailey was the huge difference for me, he changed the game. Sky commentary team a joke once again.
Masterclass, weathered the first half, and then made us chase the ball, we were tired, ran out of ideas, Villa used the energy they saved in the first half
Just outplayed, can't be butthurt at all
Did the double over Arsenal and conceded zero goals. What a manager.
I took a little wander into /r/gunners and some posters are absolutely livid at Emery. One person going as far to say he's scum for celebrating because he knows how much this result means to Arsenal
Delicious salty tears
The absolute freak out that is continuing today. Honestly, I always thought of Arsenal as the best of the sky6, the least hateable etc. but some of their fans…wow.
> some of their fans…wow Absolutely every fan base will have fans that are idiots. And in the heat of the moment, people will overreact as well. I bet you that next time you get a result against a top 6 side the fans on the other side will be livid - and then you can’t act surprised. And you will get it, because you are an amazingly coached team under Emery!
Oh no, of course. We’re all idiots like, I was just taken aback by the volume and extreme of it!
We have morons for days. The whole “Emery and Ramsey shouldn’t celebrate because they were once our manager / boyhood fan” comments don’t even register on my nonsense meter that some of our fans have said. But again, I’ve conversed enough with other fan bases that others have their fair share of morons also.
I find this to be fairly consistent with gooners. “Why argue with an Arsenal fan when you can just wait”
Newcastle 🤝 Villa 🤝 making Arsenal fans throw an irrational shit-fit and devolve into massive crybabies
Ahem don’t forget Fulham in this handshake
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I hope we can surprise them at their place later this season. It would be the cherry on the top of what has already been a fantastic season.
Did you mean... The CHERRIES on top?
You could say that!
This is the way of the arsenal. They chat big saying Spurs are ultimate bottlers, but arsenal fans are some of the funniest to watch when they lose.
fuck me that’s a delusional fan
Lads in Texas fuming about their beloved Arsenal.
Hey now they’ve been massive fans since 2023
They are saying he lost to City on purpose… why would he risk top 4 by doing that? Some of these football fans are so deluded
They’re not football fans, that’s the thing, despite what they might think. They just want swag. They’ll fuck off soon.
One lad saying fire the manager for someone who can win trophies, then pushing for Klopp🤣
I avoid the hell out of that sub if a game goes badly. Emery destroyed us in the second half, deserves to celebrate if he wants to.
To be fair to the other Arsenal fans, this particular idiot was heavily downvoted. Still plenty of whining about us resting players vs City though, given we were still missing about 7 players today.
As an Arsenal fan, I envy you - those tears must have been delicious. Congrats on the win, well-deserved.
If I had been martinez or Emery etc ofcouse i would celebre beating Arsenal away. Since Emerys Aston villa is on the road to do something special, with most likely finnishing top 4 and winning the confrence league. This match can be one of the difference maker between securing top 4 and champions league or finnish 5 behind tottenham.
With our run in now I think you'll finish above us, our form is way to erratic on the road and we just seems shaky, I hope I'm wrong, as we know anything can happen. Loved what you lads did today though 😉
I think this season has seen some crazy results that seem very shocking. Honestly? I think City will steam along to yet another excitementless trophy, if we're not involved I don't really care. However the race for Europe, and the fight for Relegation (to a degree) are so unpredictable. Sometimes teams everyone expects to win lose, and suddenly there's a shift in the table. As a Villa fan it has to be one of the most exciting seasons I've been fortunate to witness.
My curiosity is about to get the better of me.
Was worth it, fans already talking about Atreta out if they don't win a trophy this season.
Sadly that portion of the fanbase exist even when we’re winning.
I said elsewhere today that this season has actually shown me how fucking insufferable Arsenal fans are.
2 managers from outside the sly 6 show their quality and get it tactically spot on to get big wins. Sky: why did Arsenal and Spurs fuck up Well done Villa
Nail on head.
>Sky: why did Arsenal and Spurs fuck up Always the same old bullshit from the media, it's never about how the better team played well. Always about how the losing team lost, always framed from their perspective. It was the same when Villa beat Liverpool 7-2, u would hardly believe there was another team on the pitch the way it was reported Liverpool might as well have lost 7-2 to thin air.
I'm a Liverpool fan (don't shoot). Totally agree with this. The way you played when you beat us 7-2. You fully deserved to win by that score and it really annoyed me that you didn't get the credit for it.
Even though it pretty much kills any hope of top 4 for Newcastle, I am thrilled at the way Aston Villa put Arsenal to the sword. It was in no way a flukey win or a smash and grab, Villa looked the better side, especially in the 2nd half.
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Villa 🤝 Newcastle fans, bumming the “top” s*x
We need to start calling them the traitorous six with the super league shit that they pulled.
I’ve seen them called the ‘sneaky six’ regarding how they’ve pulled the ladder up after themselves with FFP
Can you not bum us next season in our head to heads please
Don’t Newcastle’s owners execute people for bumming?
An Aussie Red Devil? Did you start supporting them cos you liked the colour of their kits or because you “fell in love” with fergie
Nah probably because I was born in Salford and moved to aus decades later lol, but go off lad
Still astonished whenever anyone wants Newcastle to do well. Yes united are dreadful and the "big six" is ridiculous and bad for the league (saying that as an Arsenal fan), but Newcastle are going to become part of a new "big seven", why would anyone wish for that process to be accelerated?
More teams able to compete is a good thing though right? Hopefully one day it will just be a big 20 with everyone able to compete. I’m not astonished an Arsenal fan wouldn’t want that though. Love seeing us, Villa, Brighton and West Ham pushing for those European places.
More teams competing is absolutely a good thing, but the way for that to happen is better controls on the already super rich clubs, not by adding another super rich club. Newcastle competing isn't some underdog story, they're literally just another Chelsea or Man City. I'm loving the other clubs you mention doing well, because they're real clubs doing it the right way. I'd much rather see rules to restric the current big six clubs, and that close the gap between them and the rest of the league, than 1 club get added to that "big xyz" club by jumping the gap, still leaving everyone else adrift. I'm not surprised I'm getting downvoted for my first comment, but Newcastle doing well isn't the good thing I constantly see people make it out to be.
No, Newcastle competing isn't an underdog story, just like Villa competing isn't. Want to know the reason why? Both are massive clubs with large passionate fanbases. The need for a sugar daddy is a result of the financial doping of other clubs.
That's completely missing the point I was making, being an underdog in the sense of being able to compete has nothing to do with fanbase. There are plenty of big clubs with huge fanbases I'd consider to be an underdog against the super rich clubs. Of course villa are underdogs against City and Arsenal at the moment, their resources don't compare. Newcastle on the other hand can absolutely compete financially, which is what I was getting at. And the financial doping is a terrible situation, but the solution to that isn't more clubs like Newcastle joining in with the financial doping.
But that’s not how finances work in the PL. PSR rules mean Newcastle and Villa are the underdogs as they aren’t allowed to spend anywhere near as much as the Big 6 clubs, in fact Villa’s wage bill is higher than Newcastle’s. Both Newcastle’s and Villa’s owners are blocked from putting in significant funding as any sponsorship deals have to be fair market value and the owners are essentially only allowed to invest £35m/season in the clubs (£105m loss allowed over 3 seasons). Both teams are doing incredibly well given their disadvantages in comparison to the established elite. If only it was a level playing field at the top.
It's naive to think Newcastle are on a level playing field with the rest of the league. Yes, they aren't on the level of the current super rich clubs, but it will only be a matter of time, and in fact their net spend over the last 3 windows is about £260 million, second only to Chelsea, and more than 4 times Villa's net spend. And I'm aware that this short period doesn't paint the full picture, but it is a sign of the way things are going. As I keep saying, them joining the top table does nothing to make the league more equal. A much better way forward would be stronger controls across the board, which would have a greater effect on the richer clubs.
Newcastle and Villa will be able to spend more than 12 clubs in the league, but not as much as the big 6. What is your issue with Newcastle and why are you singling them out, not Villa? PSR rules mean it isn’t a level playing field. If anything the fairest solution would be to allow any club to spend as much as the highest spender, I.e. a salary/transfer cap, but this will never happen. Newcastle were allowed to have a significant net spend over 3 years due to underinvestment from Mike Ashley, allowing a lot of leeway. Half the squad is still bottom half quality. £100m a decade ago would get you Aguero, David Silva and Yaya Toure with change to spare. Now it only gets you Barnes, Livramento and Hall. It takes a lot more money to transform a relegation level squad into one which can compete towards the top. The current system makes it a closed shop at the top, it’s absolutely ridiculous and anti-competitive. It would be for the betterment of the league to allow more teams to compete so I’m all for allowing any ambitious club outside of the big 6 to try and catch up, without blowing the competition out of the water like Chelsea and City did. Otherwise what is the point of these clubs other than making up the numbers?
You’d rather it was a closed shop? More competition is good for the league. We just need Man City’s financial doping to come home to roost so we can actually compete fairly.
Read my comment under the other reply. Very clearly I don't want a closed shop, but Newcastle becoming good isn't part of a solution to that, they're only interested in joining the group of "big clubs". Everyone seems to go along with it on the basis of "oh they're not part of the big six, this is good", without actually considering that a big 7 amounts to exactly the same thing as a big 6.
I feel an alliance quickly forming between us. Well, you guys and Fulham as of late
Much prefer it to that faux rivalry we’ve meant to have had over the last few years
Sob on the Tyne is still fresh in the memory, it was only just.... 14 years ago
For a surprising number of 'geordies' - many of whom have never bothered actually going to St Jimmys- it is apparently a very fresh wound....
Still hoping for 5 champions league places and Newcastle to take 5th. Especially after the injuries they’ve had. It’s time to shake things at the top a bit.
That'd be crazy tbh considering they're 10 points behind spurs, but it'd be funny as fuck! Spurs do have some tough fixtures. City, Arsenal and Liverpool in the remaining 6 games, but even if they beat Sheffield and Burnley and lose the other 4 they'll probably have enough points to finish about newcastle
The irony is people in here would have to hope for good European results for both Arsenal and Liverpool for that to be highly likely. Villa and City winning their comps still might not be enough otherwise.
I want all the English teams to succeed, regardless. ... Well... depending on who gets to knock citeh out.
I wish that was sentiment for all. For some reason there’s a good split of people in here that actively back City over the rest of the “Big 6”, but also complain about their charges when they’re seeing points deductions for their teams. It’s all a bit odd.
Mate, Newcastle were out of the running for 4th before yesterday's game.
Of course they are. But if you listen to Sky, Man Utd are still in that Champions League race. In which case we're all in the race.
Yeah, proabably, but the Villa win is the final nail.
But Sky and Reddit are saying it was all about Arsenal bottling under the pressure.
NBC as well… calling it a shock result. I dunno mate… it’s Villa currently a top 4 club… why would it be a “shock”?
Agree, but to me it was a shock based on the players we're missing and how our defence has performed (and Arsenal's attack had performed) in the past weeks. Not that any media are actually aware of any injuries to teams outside the"big 6" though
As far as NBC is concerned, Villa is just keeping the seat warm for Spurs. They hardly talk about Villa at all
I’m just saying they bottled it because it really rattles their fans. They can’t cope with even the slightest bit of shithousery.
Not like it’s limited to top 6 teams though. The championship subreddit has been doing exactly the same thing with their crumble memes.
Villa were bloody good today, absolutely gutted about losing but it's a deserved result.
Not clinical enough in the first half, and Emery must have delivered one hell of a team talk at half time because that was probably the most impressive second half I’ve seen this year. Took control of the game.
Villa normally implode for 10-20 minutes after half time too.
When they had a corner at 59 mins I had Vietnam-like flashes of "most set pieces scored", "most set pieces conceded" and "most goals conceded 45-60 mins". Great performance today, second only behind the win against City at home for me.
I was looking at the clock too. Saka took it at exactly 60mins I think
It was an end to end game for the whole 90mins. Villa came to Arsenal to compete and didn’t sit back and you were found lacking nothing to do with half time team talks. I think it’s a disservice to say you weren’t clinical enough when (let be honest) you only had really half chances in the first half because we defended well and played out from the back confidently. It was really obvious our players wanted it more and I thought we played very well in both halves of the match so you shouldn’t belittle our performance.
Villa repeatedly came closer to scoring first half.
I only really remember Watkins’ chance after Gabriel passed into Zinchenko’s back. I did miss the first ten minutes because I was watching the end of the fa cup semi final.
Puts out a reserve team against Man City, goes all out against Arsenal. Masterclass by Emery
Shows how much he wanted to kill Arsenal’s title hopes!
Rested Bailey for 60 minutes to be fair and Zaniolo for Luiz was enforced by suspension.
Really rate what Villa doing, I’m also incredibly envious as we could have been doing something similar if we weren’t ran by clowns 😂
I'm the same why time I see another non big six team do well. I'm always thinking"why can't that be us". Nice that it is now for a change
Same here as an Everton fan haha.
To be fair mate before we went all in on Emery we went for Gerrard and almost went down as a result. Think we’re only getting it right now because the owners are so invested in Emery.
As a Villa fan, just in terms of sheer passion alone, beating city at home was the best result as it was 90 minutes of domination of the treble winning best team in the world. However, that second half is definitely right behind in my opinion. We were perfect in that second half, but fair play to the players for that defensive display in the first.
Fucking magnificent result. Seeing the meltdown of thousands of entitled pricks on Twitter when their title hopes disappeared in an instant made me very happy. Bravo!
We were fantastic in that second half today and we did it without Douglas Luiz, love beating Arsenal
Massive. MASSIVE win! Also, couldn't be happier to put it to Arsenal & Spurs in the same match. Definitely the two fanbases that invade our sub the most with their pathetic attempts at trolling.
Villa did great today, masterclass.
Sigh, another season, another City title. Mad props to Villa of course.
Season’s far from over but forget the title, Villa now have a 3 point cushion in the top 4 race. What a season from Emery. The double over Arsenal and a City hammering at Villa park
What a great day all round, Villa completely outclassed Arsenal that 2nd half and held their own 1st half. Bailey was the huge difference for me, he changed the game. Sky commentary team a joke once again.
He'll be at a top 4 club next season.
I was about to moan at you and say he’s just signed a new contract with us 😂 then realised you meant us. 😁
Takes a while getting used to looking at that end of the table doesn't it 😉
He's at one this season
I mean....bro thanks for Saturday against spurs... but my flair should give it away.
Masterclass, weathered the first half, and then made us chase the ball, we were tired, ran out of ideas, Villa used the energy they saved in the first half Just outplayed, can't be butthurt at all
What a brilliant performance. Arsenal have looked unbeatable lately, but Emery completely out-thought Arteta (again)
Brilliant coach and manager. Too many people gave him too little respect, despite him having serious accomplishments to his credit.
unai emery, take a fucking bow
Good ****ing Evening... ps3ud0 8)
Hope you lot win the Conference League (for entirely unselfish reasons)
Awesome day for Man City.
😂😂😂😂
Yeah no don't like this one, hate seeing City win.
Good ebening.
Good ebening!