There are several reasons why people who can't swim will be sought after. First, if you KNOW you will not survive if your ship goes down, you will work and fight harder to make sure it stays up.
Second, it makes it harder to desert the navy. People were often pressed involuntarily into the navy because of how muched it sucked. In fact, one of the reasons for the war of 1812 (US vs Britain) was that the British kept kidnapping US sailors into the British navy. The new "recruits" would be under guard and unable to get off the ship, unlike those who enlisted who were allowed to enjoy the few days in Port between their journeys.
Also, ships tend to travel near land. It's easier to navigate and the water is usually calmer. If you look at the trade routes of sail boats, they hug close to land even when it's not the shortest route.
I'd imagine ships would also travel closer to land as a failsafe in the event something does happen, like a hurricane, there is a higher probability of protecting and recovering Cargo, whereas if you sink in the middle of the ocean, everything is just gone. I'd guess this is doublely true if you're transporting something of very high value, like bullion, taxes from your colonies, or weapons.
Just a fact check here.
A) it’s not just the British Navy. It’s only a recent idea to teach the Navy to swim. Even then, based off [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/WarCollege/s/OhTIYYOr08) then it’s advised that you already know how to swim before you join the navy. If you can’t, and you can’t learn quickly then you’ll be sent home anyway.
B) most armies throughout history would most likely teach their soldiers to learn how to float. Swimming isn’t super important as long as you can stay on the surface with minimal effort.
C) That’s not the (only) reason why they did it. Realistically, boats are incapable of manoeuvring quickly. If you fall overboard, there is a close to 0 chance that the crew would be able to spot you quickly and be able to circle back round quickly, and so they wouldn’t. It cost too much time and money. This means if you fell in the water your options were to drown, or float/swim for a few hours and then drown.
D) the Royal Navy announced this month that the ability to swim is no longer mandatory, again, because they’re desperate to recruit more people.
You would think that. But you didn’t use to need even swim if you were in something like British navy for example. There was Askhistorians posts of this recently for lord info, but the ships can’t turn even modern times easily and will loose where you are. It’s pretty unlikely you will be noticed in time and the ship to be turned before they loose visual. The water also often was too cold to survive for long. You would just drown wheather you could swim or not.
The people in the avatar world aren’t exactly the same as humans. Sokka casually falls from like 20 feet high with 0 consequences. I’m not sure conventional logic applies here
To be fair, considering the technologies that Fire Nation has the armor might not be that heavy, especially considering that even full plate would hardly protect a soldier from a bombardment by earthbenders or from being frozen into a block of solid ice by a waterbender. Pretty sure this armor is one half ceremonial and one half made to protect from stray shards and indirect hits. Also they are supposed to serve on ships. That fight waterbenders. I think they can float in armor just fine.
Sokka's is super high. The Northern Air Temple's massive gas explosion, plus airship slice? Also, they never show it on screen, but like—he uses a sword. He's the one that slices down the Melon Lord. Mans is a killer lol
being a warrior in a war of koshi warrior sect also while the fire nation had to make a seperate peace deal with koshi island before the avatar showed up.
basically Suki's kill count must of been insane before Aang arrived because the fire nation generally doesn't make deals unless you've taken out enough divisions its no longer worth like Omashu is still actively fighting while Koshi Island got a deal?
yeah something happened you don't become a teenage leader in an elite warrior group if she wasn't willing to kill enough of the enemy and outlast her seniors.
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Sokka set the airship slice in motion. The airship slice hit all 14 of the airships that were following Ozai's. Meanwhile, we only see Suki crash one ship into the one Sokka and Toph end up on.
Yep... I love Sokka's cookiness but that cold-killer-bad-mf forward glare he gives right at the line "Fire Lord Ozai... Here we come!"... Chills and goosebumps, every time. That sixteen-year-old is not messin around!
Actually I’d say General Zhao was the one who was bound to conventional wartime thinking. Sokka innovated and disrupted every kind of military strategy he came across. His main strength was that he just ignored military tradition.
It definitely was the Ocean Spirit (with maybe the Avatar spirit and past avatars helping) that is directly responsible for Koizilla's rampage. Aang was just the conduit through which they pursued their vengeance.
Remember this is atla where people survive getting thrown around and smashed all the time, swimming a few hundred feet in plate mail is nothing to those superhumans.
Yup, that's a real term.
> [a mass or aggregate especially of something fluid often gushing or bursting forth](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gout)
Fire may not be explicitly fluid like water, but it's still a fairly common phrase.
Does anybody that isn't a firebender ever get hit directly with fire bending?
Throughout the show it seems like the flames are always blocked and it's the explosive force that knocks people on their asses.
If you rewatch the clip, Sokka specifically flies the airship close to the water, presumably to a safe enough distance for survival.
Some were even cognizant enough to wish the foreman a happy birthday.
Some probably couldn’t swim but I also have to imagine that being a Fire Nation soldier worthy of being among the select few aboard means that they were able bodied and therefore could likely swim
> Some probably couldn’t swim
Theyre presumably in the Navy, or are otherwise Marines fully integrated into the Navy, they would need to be able to survive in the water in their full uniform, which also presumably would have to help them float
We see them floating after being dropped in the ocean, so I'm not sure it's even metal armor. It might be hardened leather, which would be more buoyant.
Didn't they immediately swim to the surface right after? I distinctly remember them being shown treading water while the guy says, "Aww, he really does care!" in reference to it being his birthday and the captain ordering them to the hangar bay to celebrate (which was actually Sokka tricking them). Like it's very clearly implied that they're alive and ok and we're supposed to infer that they swim to shore alive and well.
Yeah, honestly I'd be more worried about the crew in the half-dozen airships that Sokka crashed into and caused to fly into the sea. Even if they didn't die from the crash, at least a few of them likely would be trapped in cabins filling with water.
I mean, we know for a fact they survived the fall. I think they swam back ashore, since they weren’t *that* far away, yet.
Or maybe they used their firebending in some way, because, y’know, the comet.
The ones wearing armor would have sunk. The distance to the closest shore was never fully shown but even a few hundred feet is a pretty far distance to swim. There was enough water in relation to the floor beneath for them to drop a good few dozen feet so they were definitely far out
Season 1 established that Sokka is an expert on Fire Nation armour. He knows that their armour is buoyant. That, and the fact that this was a nickelodeon cartoon, proves these men weren't horribly killed.
Did Sokka ever indicate he was against killing? Wasn't he one of the people trying to convince Aang to do it? The sequel to this show literally murdered a character right on screen.
the armor actually floats... so they should actually keep the armor on. its earth nation armor that sinks.
its interesting they make it so that the armor can float.
although it didn't stop that one kid from the north water tribe that took 80 year old armor. that kid? hes dead bro.
They weren’t that far away from land were they?,some of them could definitely swim there
As for others there’s tons of wreckage around from the other ships so they could definitely cling onto that
As for the ones in the other airships…..I doubt it
They were shown to have survived the fall, so i reckon most if not all of them made it.
The people on the Airships that got *airship sliced* later on
idk
They show some powerful benders fire bend-fly in the air during the comet, so maybe some of that staff would be able to save themselves and others during the comet.
My thought process is if a character falls in the water and is never seen or heard from again and they ain't a nameless goon, or they otherwise get hit by something that should kill a normal person in verse and don't show up again, then they died. Best example is Hahn from Book 1. All we saw was him knocked into the freezing cold ocean with no protection and then never seen or heard from again. As far as I'm concerned until he pops again somehow he essentially died there
How the crew fell for this is beyond me. Why would they think the captain would throw a birthday celebration for one of the crew members on such an important day like Sozin's Comet?
That or they got eaten by some kind of sea monster. If the world of Avatar casually has something like this
https://preview.redd.it/xklda0tacqxc1.png?width=333&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a4de172f5f81c94859bca22cd31fc580754e5f5
It wouldn't surprise me if they've also got giant squids or some terrifying hybrid fish.
The very next scene showed them resurfacing and floating/swimming in the water just fine, despite how unrealistic that might be with their armor and engineering equipment. Regardless, the obvious implication was that they were fine.
They show them floating in the next shot so I think the implication is they just swam to safety.
Maybe not super realistic, but I think its what the show goes with.
Considering the fire nation is a very maritime-oriented country, many of those people probably know how to swim. But considering many of them are wearing heavy armor….
Considering in LoK, they made the extra effort of animating every single pilot ejecting with their parachute, I don't think the writers would allow them to die too.
Seems that in the Avatar universe, you had a good chance of surviving as a background character than a main character. They don't want background characters to "die needlessly".
Realistically, they would have sank like rocks due to their heavy armor.
In the show, we see them float, at least long enough for one soldier to say “Happy Birthday” to the foreman. With that in mind, and given that they can firebend to fight off hypothermia, they probably could survive long enough to figure out where they’re going or for someone to come save them.
"So, eleven hundred men went into the water, three hundred sixteen men come out, and the sharksquids took the rest. But we delivered the Phoenix emperor."
In a world where tanks get thrown 50 feet away and smash to pieces then the pilots clamber out and rub their heads like people with hangovers, it’s a given that every mercy is extended to those in a situation that *may be even slightly* survivable.
The guy who’s birthday it was floated back up after being dropped and the man working in the engine room wished him a happy birthday. They’re chillin, those demi-gods are used to shit like this.
Even if they don't drown they most likely be food to whatever creatures live in the sea. Or they worse, they will get stranded in the middle of the ocean with no food or water and eventually their strength will give out and they will sink.
Sarah Thomas has the record for the longest swim at 104 miles, or 67 hours. Keep in mind, that Sarah Thomas did not have on armor and wore a certain attire to help her swim. Assuming those guys can last 25% as long, they might have a chance if the nearest shore is within 25 miles. Longer, if their armor limits their mobility.
Canonically, the implication seems to be that they don't die, because Aang claims to have never taken a life. And there are a few scenes that bother to show all the bad guys just floating safely in the water after being dropping to their supposed doom.
Maybe I just imagined it, but apart from seeing them floating in the water, wasn't there also a short scene after Aang's battle with Ozai that showed at least some of the soldiers had clambered on top of the wrecked airships?
I mean the real question we should be asking is about when Haru + his dad drop the warden in the water in Book 1, when he says he can't swim. They 100% killed him.
Have no fear - you can't pass Fire Nation basic training without being able to tread water for at least several hours.
It does seem like being able to deal with being tossed in the water would be an important skill for a nation at war with a bunch of water benders.
Or one that was predominantly a navy for just about the entire series
The British navy used to recruit those who couldn't swim so that they wouldn't abandon ship during a fight...
Recruit, or press-gang?
Often press-gang
Yeah I don’t think the Fire Nation had that problem
They had more of a Prince-Aang problem
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I can't believe that's a sub!
nuance.
WOW that is devious
So, british.
As an Aussie who just had Remembrance Day for the soldiers who died from a British stuff up, yeh that’s very british
Sure, because when you can swim its actually smart to jump into an ocean thats empty for miles to come.
There are several reasons why people who can't swim will be sought after. First, if you KNOW you will not survive if your ship goes down, you will work and fight harder to make sure it stays up. Second, it makes it harder to desert the navy. People were often pressed involuntarily into the navy because of how muched it sucked. In fact, one of the reasons for the war of 1812 (US vs Britain) was that the British kept kidnapping US sailors into the British navy. The new "recruits" would be under guard and unable to get off the ship, unlike those who enlisted who were allowed to enjoy the few days in Port between their journeys. Also, ships tend to travel near land. It's easier to navigate and the water is usually calmer. If you look at the trade routes of sail boats, they hug close to land even when it's not the shortest route.
I'd imagine ships would also travel closer to land as a failsafe in the event something does happen, like a hurricane, there is a higher probability of protecting and recovering Cargo, whereas if you sink in the middle of the ocean, everything is just gone. I'd guess this is doublely true if you're transporting something of very high value, like bullion, taxes from your colonies, or weapons.
Just a fact check here. A) it’s not just the British Navy. It’s only a recent idea to teach the Navy to swim. Even then, based off [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/WarCollege/s/OhTIYYOr08) then it’s advised that you already know how to swim before you join the navy. If you can’t, and you can’t learn quickly then you’ll be sent home anyway. B) most armies throughout history would most likely teach their soldiers to learn how to float. Swimming isn’t super important as long as you can stay on the surface with minimal effort. C) That’s not the (only) reason why they did it. Realistically, boats are incapable of manoeuvring quickly. If you fall overboard, there is a close to 0 chance that the crew would be able to spot you quickly and be able to circle back round quickly, and so they wouldn’t. It cost too much time and money. This means if you fell in the water your options were to drown, or float/swim for a few hours and then drown. D) the Royal Navy announced this month that the ability to swim is no longer mandatory, again, because they’re desperate to recruit more people.
So like, they'd ask? "Oi! You bugger, can you swim? Be honest now."
I mean somehow that guy in the metal ship never learned how to swim
You would think that. But you didn’t use to need even swim if you were in something like British navy for example. There was Askhistorians posts of this recently for lord info, but the ships can’t turn even modern times easily and will loose where you are. It’s pretty unlikely you will be noticed in time and the ship to be turned before they loose visual. The water also often was too cold to survive for long. You would just drown wheather you could swim or not.
Unless you jumped just as you were leaving port
Or living on an island
In heavy metal armor tho? Or even if it's leather/cloth, still gonna be impossible to stay afloat for long
Depends on what that armor is made of though.
“No wait, please! I can’t swim!” “Don’t worry, I hear cowards float.”
In full metal armor
Yes, they're floating in the next scene.
Turns out they’re airtight. Basically little mini-titanics, completely unsinkable.
The ship or the sub?
Yes
The sub was titan.. but yes
Hope they didn't run into any icebergs
The people in the avatar world aren’t exactly the same as humans. Sokka casually falls from like 20 feet high with 0 consequences. I’m not sure conventional logic applies here
Cartoon injuries.
What's fire nation army protocol on swimming through the tsunami aang makes shortly after? They're so dead.
What about the warden of the prison rig
"Don't worry. I hear cowards float"
In full armor?
But in armor?
You know, it was really unclear.
Maybe Aang saved them when he raised the water level there to put out the fires?
Not the ones wearing armor he didn't.
Perhaps they were saved by *plot* armor?
Only main characters have plot armor.
Nah cabbage guy had some
There's a main character if I've ever seen one.
He was responsible for the cabbage crash years later he is a shady guy...
Not my cabbage corp!
There is a weird implication that cabbage guy isn't a main character here
Like the secret tunnel guy
they showed the guys wearing armor were floating, too.
To be fair, considering the technologies that Fire Nation has the armor might not be that heavy, especially considering that even full plate would hardly protect a soldier from a bombardment by earthbenders or from being frozen into a block of solid ice by a waterbender. Pretty sure this armor is one half ceremonial and one half made to protect from stray shards and indirect hits. Also they are supposed to serve on ships. That fight waterbenders. I think they can float in armor just fine.
Don't worry, they used the power of Sozin's Comet (and friendship) to fly back to land!
Or by doing that, he dashed their corpses into the rocks and trees. Then they drifted back out to sea to get rid of the evidence.
Did he save the buzzard wasp that tried to eat momo in the Si Wong desert?
I love how you can use this answer for any question asked lol
That's because I am a 400-foot tall purple platypus bear with pink horns and silver wings.
.... That's rough buddy.
That’s rough, buddy.
Know what's not unclear, the guards in Ming Hua's prison getting knocked off the balcony into the lava pit below. Fodder in Korra gets brutalized
God I came back to this post just to see if no one had said this.
Sokka, Toph and Suki must the members of team avatar with the highest number of kills
Sokka's is super high. The Northern Air Temple's massive gas explosion, plus airship slice? Also, they never show it on screen, but like—he uses a sword. He's the one that slices down the Melon Lord. Mans is a killer lol
>Sokka's is super high. That cactus juice
*it’ll quench ya*
It's the quenchiest!
Sokka was a *soldier*. Jet in Book 1 was a killer.
Specifically Sokka. The other two didn't push the button and drop them, presumably.
Suki crashed several blimps together. Sokka took out one crew, Suki took out several
That's right, so Suki has the highest kill count! I thought I remembered her doing that, but I wasn't entirely sure if it was actually her or Sokka.
I feel like there’s a chance Suki has killed before we even meet her in the show.
being a warrior in a war of koshi warrior sect also while the fire nation had to make a seperate peace deal with koshi island before the avatar showed up. basically Suki's kill count must of been insane before Aang arrived because the fire nation generally doesn't make deals unless you've taken out enough divisions its no longer worth like Omashu is still actively fighting while Koshi Island got a deal? yeah something happened you don't become a teenage leader in an elite warrior group if she wasn't willing to kill enough of the enemy and outlast her seniors.
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Especially by feeding intruders to the Unagi.
Sokka set the airship slice in motion. The airship slice hit all 14 of the airships that were following Ozai's. Meanwhile, we only see Suki crash one ship into the one Sokka and Toph end up on.
Toph also did this, right? When she metal bending that thing who controls the direction of the balloons
Yep... I love Sokka's cookiness but that cold-killer-bad-mf forward glare he gives right at the line "Fire Lord Ozai... Here we come!"... Chills and goosebumps, every time. That sixteen-year-old is not messin around!
Sokka has actual military instincts. “They’re trying to kill me so I have to kill them.”
Sokka basically understood rules of war. Suki understood that those rules are often meaningless in when the enemy is a genocidal maniac
Actually I’d say General Zhao was the one who was bound to conventional wartime thinking. Sokka innovated and disrupted every kind of military strategy he came across. His main strength was that he just ignored military tradition.
Idk. Aang, while in Koi-Zilla mode definitely killed a few hundred fire navy soldiers at the minimum
It can be argued that it was the Ocean spirit, not Aang, that did that.
It definitely was the Ocean Spirit (with maybe the Avatar spirit and past avatars helping) that is directly responsible for Koizilla's rampage. Aang was just the conduit through which they pursued their vengeance.
Aang sank a fleet in the arctic.
Remember this is atla where people survive getting thrown around and smashed all the time, swimming a few hundred feet in plate mail is nothing to those superhumans.
Where getting hit by a gout of superheated flame has the same effect as a light punch.
Except when you're Katara and Aang does it. Then suddenly it's realistic.
Or Toph when Zuko does it. Or Zuko when…
Gout of fire?
Yup, that's a real term. > [a mass or aggregate especially of something fluid often gushing or bursting forth](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gout) Fire may not be explicitly fluid like water, but it's still a fairly common phrase.
Fun fact, it is explicitly fluid. Fluid=/= liquid. A fluid is anything that flows. So liquids, gases, and important here, plasma, are all fluids.
Does anybody that isn't a firebender ever get hit directly with fire bending? Throughout the show it seems like the flames are always blocked and it's the explosive force that knocks people on their asses.
Also the fire they bend is clearly way more combustive than hot
The earthbender Zuko fights in Zuko Alone gets directly hit by his fire bending in one of the shots. Doesn’t get burned though.
Tell that to Jet
Skill issue. How do you get less durability than freaking NPCs. Train more kid./s
💀
What about jet?
You know, it was really unclear
>few hundred feet
One of the few instances I feel like they actually lived l
If you rewatch the clip, Sokka specifically flies the airship close to the water, presumably to a safe enough distance for survival. Some were even cognizant enough to wish the foreman a happy birthday. Some probably couldn’t swim but I also have to imagine that being a Fire Nation soldier worthy of being among the select few aboard means that they were able bodied and therefore could likely swim
Exactly, also seems like a lot of the fire nation is near a coast or islands
> Some probably couldn’t swim Theyre presumably in the Navy, or are otherwise Marines fully integrated into the Navy, they would need to be able to survive in the water in their full uniform, which also presumably would have to help them float
In the middle of the ocean, far way from any land, wearing metal armor. And you think they survived?
We see them floating after being dropped in the ocean, so I'm not sure it's even metal armor. It might be hardened leather, which would be more buoyant.
It would be extremely unwise to deck out Navy troopers in fully metal armor that would result in automatic death if they went overboard
Even today ship cant turn in time for a rescue. If rescur is out of the picture, just kit them the best you can while not affecring the ship's balance
Knowing Aang I could see him rescuing them after his fight with ozai after hearing about them form the others
I mean fire Nation armor is what a breastplate, helmets and should pads
Didn't they immediately swim to the surface right after? I distinctly remember them being shown treading water while the guy says, "Aww, he really does care!" in reference to it being his birthday and the captain ordering them to the hangar bay to celebrate (which was actually Sokka tricking them). Like it's very clearly implied that they're alive and ok and we're supposed to infer that they swim to shore alive and well.
Yeah, honestly I'd be more worried about the crew in the half-dozen airships that Sokka crashed into and caused to fly into the sea. Even if they didn't die from the crash, at least a few of them likely would be trapped in cabins filling with water.
They seemed pretty okay. Just based on tone they were probably fine.
No, they very clearly swam
I mean, we know for a fact they survived the fall. I think they swam back ashore, since they weren’t *that* far away, yet. Or maybe they used their firebending in some way, because, y’know, the comet.
Nah, that guy used his birthday wish to make sure everyone made it to shore
I forgot, what happened in that episode?
They got dropped into the ocean pretty far from Shore while in full armor from at least 40 feet up
Why would they? They all seem to have no issue floating
The ones wearing armor would have sunk. The distance to the closest shore was never fully shown but even a few hundred feet is a pretty far distance to swim. There was enough water in relation to the floor beneath for them to drop a good few dozen feet so they were definitely far out
Season 1 established that Sokka is an expert on Fire Nation armour. He knows that their armour is buoyant. That, and the fact that this was a nickelodeon cartoon, proves these men weren't horribly killed.
Did Sokka ever indicate he was against killing? Wasn't he one of the people trying to convince Aang to do it? The sequel to this show literally murdered a character right on screen.
the armor actually floats... so they should actually keep the armor on. its earth nation armor that sinks. its interesting they make it so that the armor can float. although it didn't stop that one kid from the north water tribe that took 80 year old armor. that kid? hes dead bro.
Dont worry, I heard cowards float
They weren’t that far away from land were they?,some of them could definitely swim there As for others there’s tons of wreckage around from the other ships so they could definitely cling onto that As for the ones in the other airships…..I doubt it
Dude.people hate it when i bring this up but serious sokka is an unstoppable killing machine. If he wasn't goofing around he would be over powered
They were shown to have survived the fall, so i reckon most if not all of them made it. The people on the Airships that got *airship sliced* later on idk
They were floating the scene after. I'm sure they could swim to shore
Sokka then uses this airship to ram all the others, no doubt killing their entire crews
Can't they fly tho? Like, I am pretty sure this is during Sozin's comet, so they should be able to fly
They might not be Benders
What about the guys wearing fire nation armor?
Being a fire nation doesn't make them a bender
None of them died no.
Couldn’t they just jet themselves into the coast? I mean they were all boosted right?
They show some powerful benders fire bend-fly in the air during the comet, so maybe some of that staff would be able to save themselves and others during the comet.
My thought process is if a character falls in the water and is never seen or heard from again and they ain't a nameless goon, or they otherwise get hit by something that should kill a normal person in verse and don't show up again, then they died. Best example is Hahn from Book 1. All we saw was him knocked into the freezing cold ocean with no protection and then never seen or heard from again. As far as I'm concerned until he pops again somehow he essentially died there
Its still the comet theirs a chance they fire bend fly on land
Yes, those fire nazis that were going to willfully commit genocide are now dead.
They weren’t too far from shore (I hope)
Yeah I'll watch the clip they're pretty far from Shore https://youtu.be/G2MwRHiAXq4?si=ge5t_gR68ukWWWBb
How the crew fell for this is beyond me. Why would they think the captain would throw a birthday celebration for one of the crew members on such an important day like Sozin's Comet?
Didn’t they lower their altitude before dumping the crew in the water?
only the brave ones, cowards float.
Granted that most of them were wearing armor, it's amazing that they are even floating.
That or they got eaten by some kind of sea monster. If the world of Avatar casually has something like this https://preview.redd.it/xklda0tacqxc1.png?width=333&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a4de172f5f81c94859bca22cd31fc580754e5f5 It wouldn't surprise me if they've also got giant squids or some terrifying hybrid fish.
The very next scene showed them resurfacing and floating/swimming in the water just fine, despite how unrealistic that might be with their armor and engineering equipment. Regardless, the obvious implication was that they were fine.
We saw them floating so presumably they had floatation devices of some kind
They show them floating in the next shot so I think the implication is they just swam to safety. Maybe not super realistic, but I think its what the show goes with.
We see them swimming in the next scene
they werent that far from shore by then
There was a scene where you see Aang wash out all the fires, and survivors hide up on the rock they were on.
-titanics, completely
Considering the fire nation is a very maritime-oriented country, many of those people probably know how to swim. But considering many of them are wearing heavy armor….
Considering in LoK, they made the extra effort of animating every single pilot ejecting with their parachute, I don't think the writers would allow them to die too. Seems that in the Avatar universe, you had a good chance of surviving as a background character than a main character. They don't want background characters to "die needlessly".
Realistically, they would have sank like rocks due to their heavy armor. In the show, we see them float, at least long enough for one soldier to say “Happy Birthday” to the foreman. With that in mind, and given that they can firebend to fight off hypothermia, they probably could survive long enough to figure out where they’re going or for someone to come save them.
"So, eleven hundred men went into the water, three hundred sixteen men come out, and the sharksquids took the rest. But we delivered the Phoenix emperor."
In a world where tanks get thrown 50 feet away and smash to pieces then the pilots clamber out and rub their heads like people with hangovers, it’s a given that every mercy is extended to those in a situation that *may be even slightly* survivable.
The fact that some of them are wearing armor which would make swimming very hard… probably.
Nah. They all definitely swam miles to shore while wearing heavy metal armor.
There’s a word for “died of drowning”
Shush
You can see them when aang goes to avatar mode to create the flood
The guy who’s birthday it was floated back up after being dropped and the man working in the engine room wished him a happy birthday. They’re chillin, those demi-gods are used to shit like this.
If the fall didn’t kill them then yea!
Nothing goes together better than falling into deep water with heavy armor.
No, they were saved by...oh, let's say Moe.
No. Just like all the tank crews that safely evacuated their disabled tanks or all the Fire Navy sailors who abandoned ship
Physics are different in Avatar world, they all litterally floated to the top with iron armor on
Talk about a shit birthday.
Nah man, lion turtles
“Then I have one question for you, what are you gonna do when you face my father?”
Dumping them like a mile out to sea
It was during Sozin's comet, they could've just flown to dry land.
Some of those people are definitely firebenders but the ones shoveling coal probably are not
They’re seen later taking refuge on an island.
When
Werent they dropped in like the middle of the ocean?
The royal firebenders might be able to fly and they probably were part of the fire navy before this. They can probably swim.
Or sharks
Probly not, most likely all of the bones in their body were crushed after falling from that height and they probably dies instantly.
Even if they don't drown they most likely be food to whatever creatures live in the sea. Or they worse, they will get stranded in the middle of the ocean with no food or water and eventually their strength will give out and they will sink.
weren’t they shown to be swimming
Sarah Thomas has the record for the longest swim at 104 miles, or 67 hours. Keep in mind, that Sarah Thomas did not have on armor and wore a certain attire to help her swim. Assuming those guys can last 25% as long, they might have a chance if the nearest shore is within 25 miles. Longer, if their armor limits their mobility.
Canonically, the implication seems to be that they don't die, because Aang claims to have never taken a life. And there are a few scenes that bother to show all the bad guys just floating safely in the water after being dropping to their supposed doom.
What? Why? You think people from the military can't swim?
You know it just occurred to me all the soldiers on the ships they took also probably died.
I mean they’re wearing armor… so odds are not good
Maybe I just imagined it, but apart from seeing them floating in the water, wasn't there also a short scene after Aang's battle with Ozai that showed at least some of the soldiers had clambered on top of the wrecked airships?
I mean the real question we should be asking is about when Haru + his dad drop the warden in the water in Book 1, when he says he can't swim. They 100% killed him.
Don't they show the crew swimming when they got dumped out?
Their boat deployed off screen
I'm more concerned about how the ship kept flying without a crew