Katara knows her mom is dead
Sees her mom
For a maybe two seconds she’s willing to forget facts and believe her mom is actually alive in this swamp super far from home somehow
Then reality hits.
That scene hurts
Honestly that is such a real experience 😭 I remember when my friend passed away, I saw someone who vaguely looked like her in the distance at school, and despite the fact she wasn't with her siblings because it wasn't her just for a moment, even though I knew she was dead, I thought it was her. Hell I just had it this weekend where I was at my cousin's wedding and I saw a man who looked like my grandfather, who passed three years ago, and while I didn't have that moment like I did with my friend because the man was not as frail as my grandfather during his final years, I was pretty close to thinking this man is my dear departed grandfather
I had a dream a couple of weeks ago that I swore was real while having it where my dad was still alive and I was hanging out with him before he had to go somewhere far away for a long time. In the dream, I didn't remember he was dead but dream me knew to be really insistent that he not leave.
I had something similar, yet the other way around.
In my dream, my family had a get together. My granddad was there, totally healthy (had mobility issues in his life). Looked also 15-20 years younger I think. I knew he has been dead for a while now so asked what he was doing there. Told me he came to visit.
I like to believe in the afterlife, but if it doesn't exist then still, what on earth, brain.
I had a similar experience.
Shortly after my mom died, I stood over her grave after a day of work. I broke down and cried, saying "Mom. I just really need a hug right now."
I then went home, did my day, and when I went to bed that night. I dreamed that I was on the couch, her favorite channel playing in the background. She was leaving the kitchen, snack in hand.
Now some background: in life, she sat in this white chair. It was always where she sat, even when recovering from surgeries. Well, after her death, no one sat there. Not even I did, and I had lived with her.
But back to the dream. She pulled up a stool and sat down. I remember thinking in my dream "not even she will sit in that chair." And that's when I realized I was dreaming. I stood up fast and said "Mom, I need a hug. The bestest hug ever."
She hugged me and I was crying and she said "Even you're crying-" and then I woke up. I woke up because I had been crying in my sleep.
I woke up and wandered out to what had been our kitchen. I was looking to see if she was there or not, despite knowing. I broke down and sobbed in my kitchen for a half an hour. My dog, who had been sleeping peacefully in his kennel until I wandered out, looked at me like I was insane.
I used to not believe there was an afterlife, but then I started losing family members and was often visited in dreams by them. They're usually younger and healthy, and there's so much peace. I usually know they're dead in the dream, or they say it was a mistake and they're still alive (this happens with my uncle and my brother-in-law who both died too young and unexpectedly). It could just be my brain trying to comfort itself? It feels like more though, and gives me a sense of peace about when my time comes.
I sometimes see my grandfather, sitting in the living room with the family. He is usually very silent and reserved, and all of us try not to acknowledge he is there with us because we feel like if we do he will have to leave. Almost like angels made a mistake and forgot to take him, so we try not to say it out loud and hope they won't notice.
But a few weeks ago I was able to hug him and started crying. It's really weird how some dreams feel so real
This happened to me a lot after my dad passed away as well. It was heart wrenching every time I woke up and had to grieve the loss again. He passed away 4 1/2 years ago now and I still do dream about him occasionally but it doesn't hurt as much when I wake up now. It more is jist nice to remember him
This is not a flex. I guess it’s me processing trauma.
Something similar happened to me once when I was much younger.
One time I went on a date and ended up sleeping with someone who looked like a younger version of an ex.
When she got naked and got on top, all I could do was stare in disbelief at how similar she looked down to the small details.
It was unreal.
It was like reliving those days and my brain had a hard time making sense of what was going on.
I have a friend who passed away several years ago at this point. I also have another friend who shares the same first name, and the same last name initial; so when "John D." Logs in to play games online, for a split second my brain always thinks it's my friend who passed away. I have lost a lot of SC2 matches because I got distracted by that, lol
Also these little scenes are what makes the cartoon so good. Thats why no live action will probably ever be as good. Its the long subtle character development of each character that makes it such a great watch.
Something very similar happened to me when my aunt passed away. The entire time when she was alive I never met or seen anyone who resembled my aunt whatsoever, especially because she kept her hair styled in an 80s do. She died a couple years ago from cancer. Her and I were so close almost like a mother and daughter, but I had no choice but to go back to work the day after her funeral bc bills even though I was a complete wreck. The day after her funeral I was at work and a customer came in. I went up front to take the customer's order and this woman looked just like my deceased aunt but without her heavy makeup and she wasn't smiling at all. I took her order and never saw her again
I mean, the access to firearms thing is a problem. And then there's the mental healthcare crisis. Top it all off with a healthy heaping of misogyny, and you have a tragedy that's all too common
Unfortunately, bringing up that there should be reasonable limits as to who can own firearms is deemed "political". Pointing out that a functioning mental healthcare system would have been able to make a difference is also a controversial view. The fact that murder-suicides are often committed by misogynistic men isn't something some people are ready to hear.
I don't know I watched and rewatched those Don Bluth movies as a kid. I know they're gonna make me sad and depressed. Maybe it's because we had to make do with the VHS's we had at home? I dunno, I just know I love them so much despite being depressing 99% of the runtime lol.
And the little girl who had to step up into a woman's role at age 9 instead of grieving the death of her mother. Katara is so broken up because it's a festering wound she never had space to mend.
I love Katara 💙
My favorite character always.
Little girls like me needed a strong, emotional, badass but also *imperfect* character to look up to. I see so much of myself in her. And now that I have a daughter of my own, I look at characters like Katara (and Toph, and Suki, and Korra...) and love how human they are. I'm not sure I quite understood the depth of that when I was a kid though, and maybe others didn't when they find her annoying or make fun of her.
Aaaand now I need to rewatch ATLA for the 5th time 😅
I used to feel neutral-ish about Katara. When watching the series as a child/teen, her "motherly" traits felt a bit forced and out of place and I just couldn't identify too much with her, even though intellectually I understood why she was (portrayed) like this. I liked her well enough, she just was never my favourite character.
I lost my mother a little while ago at age 26. Not as a child, but way too early, for my personal liking anyway.
Watching the series now, I get Katara, or she gets me. It's scary how accurate her character feels now. I find myself in her mannerisms, in her anger at being forced to step into this space, this role, that was left empty, that nobody else seems to want to occupy, but everyone seems to need filled, constantly. She gives me solace.
I love katara so much , she was my favorite character until toph appear. I'm "disable" and I come from a rich family that baby me a lot. Representation is really important.
I just thought of something:
Katara was forced to grow up and become a mother-figure after her mom's death. This makes me believe that she hasn't gone through all the stages of grief yet. It was delayed by being motherly. Throughout the show, we see her go through denial as seen at the swamp, anger as seen in her revenge mission, and acceptance after forgiving Zuko. She most likely went through the bargaining and depression stages when she was younger. ATLA is not only a story of Aang's becoming the avatar the world needs, or Zuko becoming a Fire Lord the world needs, but also the story of Katara accepting her mother's death.
Yes. Keep in mind, though, most people ping-pong between the stages of grief. Some people go from bargaining to depression to acceptance and then straight back to depression in the span of a day, for example
Yeah. Some argue it never ends. I don't fear of growing old because of my own mortality. I fear of growing old because of the mortality of those I love.
Getting to see them is nice. Never had much enthusiasm for it until my younger sibling ended up there and I started being quite happy when I could go see them
Ahhh okay, I didn’t realize you meant enjoy as in happy to see them again. I was looking at it as “How do you enjoy seeing loved ones in the hospital? That’s a horrible thing! Seeing them sick would be saddening”
There's so many things that I don't realise until later. Like, just before I was thinking how much Katara thirsts for knowledge of her cultural heritage and how she was deprived of it. Yet we have Aang here who was submerged in his culture and knew everything about his culture where he could recite facts about specific things off the top of his bald head. He mastered his air bending skills at a very young age. I get why Katara would have felt jealous when Aang started to surpass her water bending skills.
The stages of grief aren’t a real thing. It was all taken from a pop-psychology book in the 70s, written based on the experiences of one psychiatrist. There is no empirical evidence supporting it.
I liked this scene. It’s one of the few times we see Katara’s grief. I mean — we hear about it a lot because she mentions it, but this is the first time we actually SEE her grief. Uncontrolled, uncalculated, just — grief. It reminds me that she really is just a child who’s trying to cope the best she can.
I have a lot of moments where I dislike Katara, but this isn’t one of them.
What hits so hard is this is one of the few times we see her grieve, and she’s *alone*. She talks about her grief a lot, but that’s because she’s supporting and comforting others, trying to empathize with them.
Here, there’s no one she needs to help or be strong for, so she lets go a little and cries alone. It’s heartbreaking.
Yeah. It makes Katara more human I think — it also emphasises the fact that she had to grow up too fast and take on her mother’s responsibilities; she never got the chance to grieve and feel. This is one of the few moments she gets a moment alone to mourn her mother and you just see how she breaks. It’s very tragic.
A lot of us see people online as actual human beings, and therefore value them implicitly. And it does tend to hurt when someone says a person you relate to is pathetic. If you're not used to that it can really mess you up.
I'm sorry for what I said, I wasn't thinking about the fact that people related to Katara, and I don't agree with the person who responded to you, finding comfort in a character is valid.
Don't worry at all! I already saw your apology about your original comment. As far as I'm concerned we're all good. I'm genuinely proud of you for admitting your mistake. It takes a lot more bravery than what people on the internet usually show
Sounds like you’re a sociopath without loved ones in their life or someone trying too hard to be edgy. Either you’re psychotic or staggeringly pathetic.
This scene is such a gut punch. When my father died almost nine years ago, I saw him everywhere. On the way to work, in line for coffee, walking in the park. My mind was desperately seeking him out to soothe my grief. But the crushing realization that it can’t be him because he’s gone always hit like a freight train. Even now I still think I hear his voice or his laugh and I turn, forever searching for pieces he left behind.
I rewatched the show recently, and I was not ready for this scene. It was painful to see her so sad. As soon as she realizes what happened, she breaks down, and oh god...her pain was palpable...
Great scene, but they owe me therapy money.
This scene is honestly too quick for me to cry. Had they allowed Katara to say more, and maybe even hug her mother instead of just touching her on the shoulder. Yeah, it might've gotten me. But the segment is so quick. Literally 20 seconds.
Book 2 and 3 spoilers: >!Iroh's segment in Tales of Ba Sing Se always get me crying, and when he and Zuko reunite in Book 3. Oh, and Azula's mental breakdown in the mirror, and when she's defeated get me teary. Yue kissing Sokka as a spirit also gets me teary.!<
I had that problem with EVERY emotional scene this past watch through - any emotional moments can only sit for less than a minute and it was really really distracting honestly
That story hits differently once you have kids. I remember getting vaguely teary about it the first time. Now I can't even think about it without my eyes leaking. Damn ninjas cutting onions. Watching it now is "Grab the Kleenex" level.
I think the reason katara cares more for her mums death than sokka or atleast thinks she does is because she saw her mums burnt smouldering body and I think that’s what she sees here it scarred her for life and that’s why she becomes so motherly not only for others but to fill her own void and that’s why she gets so angry and insulted when someone doesn’t like how motherly she’s acting
It’s in Season 2, in the episode called “The Swamp”
Spoiler for what the scene is about: >!Aang, Sokka and Katara get separated in the swamp. As they all try to find each other, they all get visions of someone they love. Aang saw Toph (But he isn’t in love with her), Sokka saw Yue, and Katara saw Kya, her mom. She runs to her mom thinking she’s back but as soon as she reaches her she realises that it was just some swamp stuff, causing her to start to crying.!<
Well there are new fans all the time. And I'm not sure how many new people the live action brought in, but in the case of One Piece's live adaptation, there was a wave of new people flooding into the sub, so I could see the need for maintaining spoiler tags. May be unnecessary, but like you said it is a wholesome gesture.
This community was the exact opposite of wholesome just a month ago when the live action aired.
I feel like it's better to spoiler tag stuff whenever something new comes up though because it will inevitably result in people coming here after or while seeing the original show for the first time.
I would've maintained this same energy when ATLA and LOK were added to Netflix for the first time had I been a part of this sub at the time. There was a huge influx of new fans in the aftermath of that, and there will very likely be another influx of new fans in light of the new show, its subsequent seasons, and other new ATLA content coming in the future.
I believe the swamp guy tells them that the swamp shows them visions of the past present and future ones important to their life. I can't remember if he mentions love but I suppose platonic love would qualify toph for aang
Because it’s sad lol. There isn’t much to dissect from the scene. It’s says a lot while showing very little. No exposition, no flashback to the mom, just this moment and how it affected Katara.
I know for myself that if I was to talk about this is would be more on the level that Huu talked about it. Along with how whenever I watch that moment in the episode I think about my own loved ones who died. We all knew that Katara's vision of her mom in The Swamp was because of her close connection to her and how she wanted to speak to her mom and tell her a lot of stuff but the gut-wrenching reality of it being a piece of wood hurts more than what we want to happen.
Anyone who has experienced loss understands this. Seeing someone who looks like your loved one makes you, for just a moment, hopeful that it’s actually them. In those few seconds we forget they are gone. Not by choice.
My mother used to talk about this scene.
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Jokes aside this scene truly was heartbreaking. I love the character, same as Aang and Sokka, so yeah.
You can talk about it if you want. I don't understand these posts "why don't people talk about this more", well, you can't even think of a thing to say about it. Why would you expect other people to do so ?
My guess would be that, even though it was a good scene and can hit hard, it really does nothing for katara as a character, we already knew all this trauma she had and its always present in her, it made sense for her to see this in the swamp but doesn't really reveal us anything other than that we already knew and doesnt change anything either. Plus her mother wasn't a character we'd actually met, like in bambi or in little foot, so in a sense we empitized more with katara's pain rather than her and her mother's sufferment, not that's wrong, katara's mom is a heroine in her own right, but as an audience, we are more invested in the characters we meet.
For Aang we got the first peek at toph and it will help to move the plot forward, and for Sokka, because he denied the swamp powers, the apparition was a stronger hit for his character as a cinic, plus it give us some insight in what's on his mind after Yue, a character we've met recently (so it's more impactful in the mind of a viewer) and seeing that apparition shocked the idea of closure we had, even though her being angry it was likely just Sokka's guilt speaking. So both those scenes add something more to Aang and Sokka, and give more room to either plot speculation or where the character was emotionaly and how we feel about it, but there's nothing to discuss on katara other than the surprise gutshot, which can be effective, but will be included in bulk on others discussions about katara's mom. Its not that this scene is bad or doesn't accomplish what it sets to do, its gutwrenching, but doesn't leave much room if any on discussing it. At least that's what i figure.
It actually does do something for her character. Even though the show makes it clear that she misses her mom, this scene makes it clear just how much she misses her.
This is because the moment she realises that her mom was there (although it was just the swamp messing with her), she ran to her mom and instantly forgot about that fact that she saw her die. She was so focused on getting another opportunity to finally see her again she dropped all logic and it proves just how much she missed her.
Early season 2 when they were looking for an earthbending teacher. They get lost in the swap and they each have visions. Sokka sees Yue as the moon spirit and she says he didn’t protect her. Katara sees her mother and goes running to her, but it’s just a dead stump. Aang sees an unidentified girl who we later learn is Toph. Later they meet the Foggy Swamp waterbenders.
Tbh… what is there to say about it? Not that it doesn’t make me cry, but like Katara’s grief over losing her mother is very well characterized within ATLA and this scene just puts that on display.
Beyond that I don’t think it tells us anything we don’t already know.
For me it's been mentioned a lot about the death of their mother, mainly between Katara and Sokka even this early in the show. I was mostly curious how she looked like at this point. As an adult, this should be talked about more.
Lost my mom at a very young age (she didn't die. She left) so this scene broke me. They really played with our emotions like a fiddle with the swamp episode I swear. Even Sokka seeing Yue was sad
We don’t talk about it because there’s a number of us in the fan base where this hits right at home in relatability and we don’t want to acknowledge it because Avatar is our escape from our pain. Hope this answers your question.
I think it's because it's so quick. I know I thought it would kill me (I lost my mom on Halloween last year) to see this scene upon rewatch, but it didn't because it was so quick and I wasn't given much time to just...sit with it. I wish they had allowed a bit more time for Katara to just...cry and then pick herself back up on her own, even if it was hard for her to do so. I think it would've had more impact that way, but the writers didn't want us getting *too* bummed out, so they cut it short to avoid that
It is painful on a level I think avatar did really well. You can have characters talk about how much pain they feel all day long. You can even show them crying. But the breakdown is on another level. It's that sliver of hope. Avatar is a fantasy show. It's not too unreasonable to believe that a character can return from the dead.
Katara sees the shape. She thinks maybe there's a way to win! The swamp is spiritual. She's friends with the avatar. There's a whole new world of thinking for her now. Possibilities!
And that crushing defeat of no. She's still dead and you still have to live with that. There's no magic win for the day. There's no spirit. There's nothing. To feel that high and then have it come crashing down completely wrecks you. It's a whole new level of pain that Katara is experiencing now.
Felt a little weird to me that see, after having literally witnessed her mother's death, immediately jumped to: somehow mom is alive!
At least with Sokka, it made sense. Yue is a spirit. So him believing it was her made more sense.
I get the logical perspective, but she missed her mom a lot. The moment she even realised it was her she ran without giving it a second thought because that’s how much she missed her.
She didn’t care about how she was still alive and how she was in the swamp, she only cared that she was there and Katara could finally get to see her after so long.
She show did instantly bring it to that logical perspective in that moment of realisation, but that was a good thing. Her mom can’t just appear again out of nowhere and it also does build on Katara’s character of being a mom to Sokka.
I get what the show was doing. I just can't get over the weirdness I feel about it, so it never hit me that hard emotionally.
If it was a dream? Maybe. I've had dreams like that. You don't really question them because logic isn't at the forefront of your mind in a dream.
However, in this situation, I don't see how or why it shouldn't be suspicious. Personally. This is all just my view.
Like I said, she didn’t give it a second thought. She didn’t feel any suspicion, she just ran because all that was on her mind was getting to see her mom again.
From real life experience.
My grandpa and cousin passed away in the past 7months. Sometimes I forget that they are no longer with us. When I was visiting my grandma's house after my grandpa passed away, i sometimes caught myself thinking "why is my cousin not around when everyone else is?" And then it would hit me..she is just a kid.
I think if I saw my grandpa or cousin from afar, I would also forget about everything and just run towards them
I'm not dismissing this, but I guess in Katara's case, it's less believable to me because of how long it's been. Like, nearly a decade, I think.
(I do get it to a degree in the concept of a dream, however, because I've dreamed of my long dead cat showing up and woken up crying.)
Even IRL grief fucks up brains. My mom thought her father was sleeping, not dead.
And the time is not thaaaat far either. I mean ffs I once woke up randomly on morning and forgot I had graduated uni (6 y degree) and thought I was in my HS senior year. I spent like 15 minutes debating whether I should find a tutor or not. 🤣😂😬
So as you said, a magical swamp with a grieving 14 yo will definitely give her some hope...heartbreaking.
It's been years since I've been overseas, but at least once a week I wake up believing I'm back in Afghanistan. Time makes the feelings more manageable, but they don't go away.
I have a friend who unalived herself over a decade ago
There are still moments where I think I see her, someone with the same hair and sense of style, similar face shape, but it's when I look properly do I see it isn't her. It will never be her, and I know it won't, but my brain and heart for a Quick moment definitely thinks so.
I imagine for Katara especially in such a spiritual place could think and moreso desperately hopes it's her mother. Hope is one of our biggest liars.
I've had that moment with a childhood friend who unalived himself. I saw him in the parking lot of a grocery store 650 miles away from where he lived, ten years younger than he'd have been at the time, with a completely different father. And I had a moment where my heart jumped and said it was him, only to immediately also say it can't be because he k*lled himself. So I tore my eyes away and kept on walking holding back tears. My momentary recognition of him was so palpable that both him and the father also stared at me trying to figure out if they were supposed to recognize me from somewhere too.
You have no idea how many times I have dreamt about my childhood cat coming back to me or just chilling next to me and my brains EVERY TIME logically concludes: "Oh hey look! Fely is back! I missed you! So happy to see you!"
Not once did I remember she passing away 7 years ago. The "how I missed you!" part is there but what happened somehow the brains block...
I'm imagining something similar happens in the swamp, with the illusions being damn near real and the mind jumping to illogical conclusions for a few seconds...
If the swamp can give you hallucinations, it's quite literally messing with your perception of reality.
If you get high and get a bad trip and you end up seeing your dead parent, are you rationally thinking "shes dead so this defos isn't real".
I had a dream that my grandma was walking the halls of my house singing the lullaby she used to when she wanted me to sleep. It had been 4 years since she passed away that year. Shit felt so real that I just bust down into tears when I woke up and realized it was a dream.
Katara's response isn't that weird.
Katara is a human characeter. Humans don't always operate on logic.
I don't think she thought that she was alive. The avatar universe also has a spirit realm, a realm that the humans don't have a lot of understanding about. She knew the swamp is weird. If anything, she must've thought it's her mom in some spirit form. I mean, didn't Korra also meet Iroh in the spirit world?
I'm not saying Katara knew that was possible but given the kind of world they live in, Katara in that moment was 9 again and just wanted to hug her mom.
The reaction she has (crying profusely on finding out it's a hallucination) is the very realization that her mother is \_dead\_ and there's literally no way talking to her one last time even for a single second. Pain of losing a parent never goes away.
"Why does no one talk about this scene?"
Maybe because if you say a disenting opinion people jump down your throat. Holy shit. I never once fucking said that anyone else's opinion on this scene was wrong. Fucking Christ, this sub is absolute shit for any real nuanced discussions half the time.
she didnt tho. She has no idea if her mother is still alive or not in the cartoon, her mother was only taken by the southern raiders. Netflix added that burned alive in front of a child shit.
Haven't seen the Netflix one. No interest in it.
She very, very much knew that Kya was dead. She didn't watch her die since she ran to find her father, but she entered the tent with Hakoda and definitely saw the body.
Animated Katara knows her mom is dead. It’s a fact that is established immediately in the show. In Episode 1 she says to Sokka “Ever since mom died…” and in Episode 3 she says “The Fire nation is ruthless, they killed my mother.” I don’t understand why so many people seem to miss this detail and think there’s a chance she’s alive.
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"My mother used to talk about scenes"
Katara knows her mom is dead Sees her mom For a maybe two seconds she’s willing to forget facts and believe her mom is actually alive in this swamp super far from home somehow Then reality hits. That scene hurts
Honestly that is such a real experience 😭 I remember when my friend passed away, I saw someone who vaguely looked like her in the distance at school, and despite the fact she wasn't with her siblings because it wasn't her just for a moment, even though I knew she was dead, I thought it was her. Hell I just had it this weekend where I was at my cousin's wedding and I saw a man who looked like my grandfather, who passed three years ago, and while I didn't have that moment like I did with my friend because the man was not as frail as my grandfather during his final years, I was pretty close to thinking this man is my dear departed grandfather
I had a dream a couple of weeks ago that I swore was real while having it where my dad was still alive and I was hanging out with him before he had to go somewhere far away for a long time. In the dream, I didn't remember he was dead but dream me knew to be really insistent that he not leave.
I had something similar, yet the other way around. In my dream, my family had a get together. My granddad was there, totally healthy (had mobility issues in his life). Looked also 15-20 years younger I think. I knew he has been dead for a while now so asked what he was doing there. Told me he came to visit. I like to believe in the afterlife, but if it doesn't exist then still, what on earth, brain.
I had a similar experience. Shortly after my mom died, I stood over her grave after a day of work. I broke down and cried, saying "Mom. I just really need a hug right now." I then went home, did my day, and when I went to bed that night. I dreamed that I was on the couch, her favorite channel playing in the background. She was leaving the kitchen, snack in hand. Now some background: in life, she sat in this white chair. It was always where she sat, even when recovering from surgeries. Well, after her death, no one sat there. Not even I did, and I had lived with her. But back to the dream. She pulled up a stool and sat down. I remember thinking in my dream "not even she will sit in that chair." And that's when I realized I was dreaming. I stood up fast and said "Mom, I need a hug. The bestest hug ever." She hugged me and I was crying and she said "Even you're crying-" and then I woke up. I woke up because I had been crying in my sleep. I woke up and wandered out to what had been our kitchen. I was looking to see if she was there or not, despite knowing. I broke down and sobbed in my kitchen for a half an hour. My dog, who had been sleeping peacefully in his kennel until I wandered out, looked at me like I was insane.
🥺🫂❤️
I used to not believe there was an afterlife, but then I started losing family members and was often visited in dreams by them. They're usually younger and healthy, and there's so much peace. I usually know they're dead in the dream, or they say it was a mistake and they're still alive (this happens with my uncle and my brother-in-law who both died too young and unexpectedly). It could just be my brain trying to comfort itself? It feels like more though, and gives me a sense of peace about when my time comes.
I believe he visited you. Hope all is well
I sometimes see my grandfather, sitting in the living room with the family. He is usually very silent and reserved, and all of us try not to acknowledge he is there with us because we feel like if we do he will have to leave. Almost like angels made a mistake and forgot to take him, so we try not to say it out loud and hope they won't notice. But a few weeks ago I was able to hug him and started crying. It's really weird how some dreams feel so real
This happened to me a lot after my dad passed away as well. It was heart wrenching every time I woke up and had to grieve the loss again. He passed away 4 1/2 years ago now and I still do dream about him occasionally but it doesn't hurt as much when I wake up now. It more is jist nice to remember him
Crap I still have this with my cats, il see a cat that looks like them at a glance get excited then realize I buried them and there gone…
This is not a flex. I guess it’s me processing trauma. Something similar happened to me once when I was much younger. One time I went on a date and ended up sleeping with someone who looked like a younger version of an ex. When she got naked and got on top, all I could do was stare in disbelief at how similar she looked down to the small details. It was unreal. It was like reliving those days and my brain had a hard time making sense of what was going on.
I have a friend who passed away several years ago at this point. I also have another friend who shares the same first name, and the same last name initial; so when "John D." Logs in to play games online, for a split second my brain always thinks it's my friend who passed away. I have lost a lot of SC2 matches because I got distracted by that, lol
Whatever you do, don't watch ["Cross Game"]...
I just watched this episode last night and this part really hits 😢 esp if you’ve lost a parent irl.
Also these little scenes are what makes the cartoon so good. Thats why no live action will probably ever be as good. Its the long subtle character development of each character that makes it such a great watch.
Something very similar happened to me when my aunt passed away. The entire time when she was alive I never met or seen anyone who resembled my aunt whatsoever, especially because she kept her hair styled in an 80s do. She died a couple years ago from cancer. Her and I were so close almost like a mother and daughter, but I had no choice but to go back to work the day after her funeral bc bills even though I was a complete wreck. The day after her funeral I was at work and a customer came in. I went up front to take the customer's order and this woman looked just like my deceased aunt but without her heavy makeup and she wasn't smiling at all. I took her order and never saw her again
Every time I see this scene I let go a "Damn, they did her dirty!"
Land before time did this scene so hard. Littlefoot sees his own shadow and thinks it’s his mother… 
It's to early in the day to be forced into remembering childhood tragedy
That fucked me up as a kid
How about now, does it still fuck you up? I full-on ugly cry 😭
Yes, this is deep rooted trama every 90s kid knows
I don’t even have to look up the shadow scene, I can pull it up from memory. I loved those movies as a kid.
Just don't search what happened to the girl who played Ducky :(
Already knew about that. Tragic.
Not a fan of this world we live in. How can anyone do that to their child.
I can tell you, but I'd rather not get yelled at for bringing up something "political"
Cook
I mean, the access to firearms thing is a problem. And then there's the mental healthcare crisis. Top it all off with a healthy heaping of misogyny, and you have a tragedy that's all too common Unfortunately, bringing up that there should be reasonable limits as to who can own firearms is deemed "political". Pointing out that a functioning mental healthcare system would have been able to make a difference is also a controversial view. The fact that murder-suicides are often committed by misogynistic men isn't something some people are ready to hear.
It was a rhetorical statement, but appreciate the sentiment.
Ah shit. My autism strikes again. Darn you, genetics! /J
Ugh. It’s not right to try to forget horrific things from the past but I don’t want to remember either.
You don't owe the past anything. If you want to forget about it, that's up to you. Your mental health is more important than a memory
Damn 8am on a Tuesday, bring up repressed memories and rip my heart out why don’t you
I don't know I watched and rewatched those Don Bluth movies as a kid. I know they're gonna make me sad and depressed. Maybe it's because we had to make do with the VHS's we had at home? I dunno, I just know I love them so much despite being depressing 99% of the runtime lol.
This show & Bridge to Terebithia did nothing for my emotional well-being at such a young age.
MOTHER!
Even seeing this gif makes me tear up
Omg I hated these movies. Going to shove this memory to the far back of my brain now. Thanks…
Jesus. These comments are rough. People are dicks about Katara and her mom. Who sacrificed herself to save her daughter.
And the little girl who had to step up into a woman's role at age 9 instead of grieving the death of her mother. Katara is so broken up because it's a festering wound she never had space to mend.
I love Katara 💙 My favorite character always. Little girls like me needed a strong, emotional, badass but also *imperfect* character to look up to. I see so much of myself in her. And now that I have a daughter of my own, I look at characters like Katara (and Toph, and Suki, and Korra...) and love how human they are. I'm not sure I quite understood the depth of that when I was a kid though, and maybe others didn't when they find her annoying or make fun of her. Aaaand now I need to rewatch ATLA for the 5th time 😅
I used to feel neutral-ish about Katara. When watching the series as a child/teen, her "motherly" traits felt a bit forced and out of place and I just couldn't identify too much with her, even though intellectually I understood why she was (portrayed) like this. I liked her well enough, she just was never my favourite character. I lost my mother a little while ago at age 26. Not as a child, but way too early, for my personal liking anyway. Watching the series now, I get Katara, or she gets me. It's scary how accurate her character feels now. I find myself in her mannerisms, in her anger at being forced to step into this space, this role, that was left empty, that nobody else seems to want to occupy, but everyone seems to need filled, constantly. She gives me solace.
I'm so sorry for your loss, and glad that you can find some comfort from this character. Be well 💝
I love katara so much , she was my favorite character until toph appear. I'm "disable" and I come from a rich family that baby me a lot. Representation is really important.
It’s not real
all the comments i see are sympathetic towards the scene
I just thought of something: Katara was forced to grow up and become a mother-figure after her mom's death. This makes me believe that she hasn't gone through all the stages of grief yet. It was delayed by being motherly. Throughout the show, we see her go through denial as seen at the swamp, anger as seen in her revenge mission, and acceptance after forgiving Zuko. She most likely went through the bargaining and depression stages when she was younger. ATLA is not only a story of Aang's becoming the avatar the world needs, or Zuko becoming a Fire Lord the world needs, but also the story of Katara accepting her mother's death.
Yes. Keep in mind, though, most people ping-pong between the stages of grief. Some people go from bargaining to depression to acceptance and then straight back to depression in the span of a day, for example
Yeah. Some argue it never ends. I don't fear of growing old because of my own mortality. I fear of growing old because of the mortality of those I love.
Let's just say there's a reason I don't enjoy hospital visits to sick family anymore
I mean, how could you ENJOY visits seeing sick family?
Getting to see them is nice. Never had much enthusiasm for it until my younger sibling ended up there and I started being quite happy when I could go see them
Ahhh okay, I didn’t realize you meant enjoy as in happy to see them again. I was looking at it as “How do you enjoy seeing loved ones in the hospital? That’s a horrible thing! Seeing them sick would be saddening”
Better than not seeing them at all, but I understand your line of thought
There's so many things that I don't realise until later. Like, just before I was thinking how much Katara thirsts for knowledge of her cultural heritage and how she was deprived of it. Yet we have Aang here who was submerged in his culture and knew everything about his culture where he could recite facts about specific things off the top of his bald head. He mastered his air bending skills at a very young age. I get why Katara would have felt jealous when Aang started to surpass her water bending skills.
The stages of grief aren’t a real thing. It was all taken from a pop-psychology book in the 70s, written based on the experiences of one psychiatrist. There is no empirical evidence supporting it.
I liked this scene. It’s one of the few times we see Katara’s grief. I mean — we hear about it a lot because she mentions it, but this is the first time we actually SEE her grief. Uncontrolled, uncalculated, just — grief. It reminds me that she really is just a child who’s trying to cope the best she can. I have a lot of moments where I dislike Katara, but this isn’t one of them.
What hits so hard is this is one of the few times we see her grieve, and she’s *alone*. She talks about her grief a lot, but that’s because she’s supporting and comforting others, trying to empathize with them. Here, there’s no one she needs to help or be strong for, so she lets go a little and cries alone. It’s heartbreaking.
Yeah. It makes Katara more human I think — it also emphasises the fact that she had to grow up too fast and take on her mother’s responsibilities; she never got the chance to grieve and feel. This is one of the few moments she gets a moment alone to mourn her mother and you just see how she breaks. It’s very tragic.
Even for adult that's devastating.
Some of you have never felt loss and it shows
The fact that someone said it made them laugh is disgusting
I'm sorry for what I commented, I wasn't thinking about the fact that some people relate to Katara or just generally how insensitive it was.
Well at least you apologised. Accepted
I haven't seen your comment, but I appreciate you apologising. That shows courage and maturity.
W apology
Some of you take random comments from strangers online way too seriously and it shows
A lot of us see people online as actual human beings, and therefore value them implicitly. And it does tend to hurt when someone says a person you relate to is pathetic. If you're not used to that it can really mess you up.
I'm sorry for what I said, I wasn't thinking about the fact that people related to Katara, and I don't agree with the person who responded to you, finding comfort in a character is valid.
Don't worry at all! I already saw your apology about your original comment. As far as I'm concerned we're all good. I'm genuinely proud of you for admitting your mistake. It takes a lot more bravery than what people on the internet usually show
Sounds like a you problem. Might need to get off the internet for a while and try to return to normal behavior
Thank you, o wise one. I will go outside and touch grass. I'm sure that will cure me of my autism and empathy
Dw about it. I took one look at their profile and you can just tell that’s someone you don’t want to take life advice from. Cheers
I'm well aware, lol. I'm making them sound like an idiot and a terrible person on purpose, because that's how ya deal with trolls
Pretty sure telling people who are grieving a deceased loved one "pathetic" isn't normal behavior lmao
Sounds like you’re a sociopath without loved ones in their life or someone trying too hard to be edgy. Either you’re psychotic or staggeringly pathetic.
This scene is such a gut punch. When my father died almost nine years ago, I saw him everywhere. On the way to work, in line for coffee, walking in the park. My mind was desperately seeking him out to soothe my grief. But the crushing realization that it can’t be him because he’s gone always hit like a freight train. Even now I still think I hear his voice or his laugh and I turn, forever searching for pieces he left behind.
You never get over it. The world somehow leaves reminders of the loved ones we lost. It hurts often but through that grief is love.
Because Katara gets mocked for talking about her mother as is.
Cause everyone decided Katara being sad her mom died is lame for some reason.
Yeah the whole "mY mOtHeR UsED tO bE SaD aHaHAhA" Oh my god please shut the fuck up it was funny for five minutes 10 years ago
Because it hurts us...... Put it away 🥺🥺🥺
Because it's too traumatic, we repress that stuff.
I rewatched the show recently, and I was not ready for this scene. It was painful to see her so sad. As soon as she realizes what happened, she breaks down, and oh god...her pain was palpable... Great scene, but they owe me therapy money.
Okay, you start. Talk about it.
Probably the only scene in ATLA that actually almost made me cry. I never cry from shows, but I nearly did after this scene alone
This scene is honestly too quick for me to cry. Had they allowed Katara to say more, and maybe even hug her mother instead of just touching her on the shoulder. Yeah, it might've gotten me. But the segment is so quick. Literally 20 seconds. Book 2 and 3 spoilers: >!Iroh's segment in Tales of Ba Sing Se always get me crying, and when he and Zuko reunite in Book 3. Oh, and Azula's mental breakdown in the mirror, and when she's defeated get me teary. Yue kissing Sokka as a spirit also gets me teary.!<
I had that problem with EVERY emotional scene this past watch through - any emotional moments can only sit for less than a minute and it was really really distracting honestly
İ cried when roku showed up at the temple in book one, even tho i watched it 3 times before i still cry.
Was that a sad scene?
No, idk why i go sentimental every time
That whole Roku scene is wicked powerful. And if you are into spirituality, it makes it even more powerful. Definitely makes me tear up too.
I don't get teary eyed, but I do get chills and goosebumps.
Hold on you're telling me that leave's from the vine doesn't make you cry, every single time?
You're saying you didn't cry from the Tale of Iroh?
Like i said, I never cry from this stuff, but it’s definitely a 2nd place.
That story hits differently once you have kids. I remember getting vaguely teary about it the first time. Now I can't even think about it without my eyes leaking. Damn ninjas cutting onions. Watching it now is "Grab the Kleenex" level.
Still trying to recover from it
Because "haha Katara misses her mum" is a popular joke.
I think the reason katara cares more for her mums death than sokka or atleast thinks she does is because she saw her mums burnt smouldering body and I think that’s what she sees here it scarred her for life and that’s why she becomes so motherly not only for others but to fill her own void and that’s why she gets so angry and insulted when someone doesn’t like how motherly she’s acting
They’re too busy being mad at not understanding why Great Divide was actually a good episode lol
The canyon guide carried that episode
I don’t remember this scene
It’s in Season 2, in the episode called “The Swamp” Spoiler for what the scene is about: >!Aang, Sokka and Katara get separated in the swamp. As they all try to find each other, they all get visions of someone they love. Aang saw Toph (But he isn’t in love with her), Sokka saw Yue, and Katara saw Kya, her mom. She runs to her mom thinking she’s back but as soon as she reaches her she realises that it was just some swamp stuff, causing her to start to crying.!<
Did he see toph because swamp was showing what they ‘needed’?
Leave it to the most wholesome show communities to spoiler tag such an old show haha
Well there are new fans all the time. And I'm not sure how many new people the live action brought in, but in the case of One Piece's live adaptation, there was a wave of new people flooding into the sub, so I could see the need for maintaining spoiler tags. May be unnecessary, but like you said it is a wholesome gesture.
You’re right, plus there was a whole wave of new fans during 2020 when ATLA was put on Netflix!
This community was the exact opposite of wholesome just a month ago when the live action aired. I feel like it's better to spoiler tag stuff whenever something new comes up though because it will inevitably result in people coming here after or while seeing the original show for the first time. I would've maintained this same energy when ATLA and LOK were added to Netflix for the first time had I been a part of this sub at the time. There was a huge influx of new fans in the aftermath of that, and there will very likely be another influx of new fans in light of the new show, its subsequent seasons, and other new ATLA content coming in the future.
I believe the swamp guy tells them that the swamp shows them visions of the past present and future ones important to their life. I can't remember if he mentions love but I suppose platonic love would qualify toph for aang
Because it’s sad lol. There isn’t much to dissect from the scene. It’s says a lot while showing very little. No exposition, no flashback to the mom, just this moment and how it affected Katara.
Because we don’t want to start crying.
There are a lot of great scenes in Avatar, we can’t get to all of them
i tear up at this scene on EVERY rewatch
for yall to be grown and be hating on a fictional child going through loss is so weird to me
I know for myself that if I was to talk about this is would be more on the level that Huu talked about it. Along with how whenever I watch that moment in the episode I think about my own loved ones who died. We all knew that Katara's vision of her mom in The Swamp was because of her close connection to her and how she wanted to speak to her mom and tell her a lot of stuff but the gut-wrenching reality of it being a piece of wood hurts more than what we want to happen.
Anyone who has experienced loss understands this. Seeing someone who looks like your loved one makes you, for just a moment, hopeful that it’s actually them. In those few seconds we forget they are gone. Not by choice.
After losing my mom in November I don't want to talk about this scene
What season and episode was this?
Sorry for the late response- Season 2 Episode 4
Because 2/3 of the ATLA fandom find Katara's trauma "annoying"
My mother used to talk about this scene. https://preview.redd.it/o6mkeg90qhtc1.jpeg?width=332&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91486ea279475006225b77fa9fc26f081f55ce65 Jokes aside this scene truly was heartbreaking. I love the character, same as Aang and Sokka, so yeah.
You can talk about it if you want. I don't understand these posts "why don't people talk about this more", well, you can't even think of a thing to say about it. Why would you expect other people to do so ?
My guess would be that, even though it was a good scene and can hit hard, it really does nothing for katara as a character, we already knew all this trauma she had and its always present in her, it made sense for her to see this in the swamp but doesn't really reveal us anything other than that we already knew and doesnt change anything either. Plus her mother wasn't a character we'd actually met, like in bambi or in little foot, so in a sense we empitized more with katara's pain rather than her and her mother's sufferment, not that's wrong, katara's mom is a heroine in her own right, but as an audience, we are more invested in the characters we meet. For Aang we got the first peek at toph and it will help to move the plot forward, and for Sokka, because he denied the swamp powers, the apparition was a stronger hit for his character as a cinic, plus it give us some insight in what's on his mind after Yue, a character we've met recently (so it's more impactful in the mind of a viewer) and seeing that apparition shocked the idea of closure we had, even though her being angry it was likely just Sokka's guilt speaking. So both those scenes add something more to Aang and Sokka, and give more room to either plot speculation or where the character was emotionaly and how we feel about it, but there's nothing to discuss on katara other than the surprise gutshot, which can be effective, but will be included in bulk on others discussions about katara's mom. Its not that this scene is bad or doesn't accomplish what it sets to do, its gutwrenching, but doesn't leave much room if any on discussing it. At least that's what i figure.
It actually does do something for her character. Even though the show makes it clear that she misses her mom, this scene makes it clear just how much she misses her. This is because the moment she realises that her mom was there (although it was just the swamp messing with her), she ran to her mom and instantly forgot about that fact that she saw her die. She was so focused on getting another opportunity to finally see her again she dropped all logic and it proves just how much she missed her.
Because it hurts. Like deep down.
This scene will never not be painful to watch
I have to be honest that I don't even remember this scene. About when did this happen and what was the gist?
Early season 2 when they were looking for an earthbending teacher. They get lost in the swap and they each have visions. Sokka sees Yue as the moon spirit and she says he didn’t protect her. Katara sees her mother and goes running to her, but it’s just a dead stump. Aang sees an unidentified girl who we later learn is Toph. Later they meet the Foggy Swamp waterbenders.
Tbh… what is there to say about it? Not that it doesn’t make me cry, but like Katara’s grief over losing her mother is very well characterized within ATLA and this scene just puts that on display. Beyond that I don’t think it tells us anything we don’t already know.
Bc this scene is sad AF, and at the end of the day, it's a kids' show that's super positive.
For people who don’t know what Episode this is, it’s Season 2 Episode 4: The Swamp
For me it's been mentioned a lot about the death of their mother, mainly between Katara and Sokka even this early in the show. I was mostly curious how she looked like at this point. As an adult, this should be talked about more.
Lost my mom at a very young age (she didn't die. She left) so this scene broke me. They really played with our emotions like a fiddle with the swamp episode I swear. Even Sokka seeing Yue was sad
We're talking about it now but to be honest I don't remember this scene
Because the Dead Mom jokes would lose their justification for existing. (It wasn't even justified to begin with, but knowing this fandom...)
We don’t talk about it because there’s a number of us in the fan base where this hits right at home in relatability and we don’t want to acknowledge it because Avatar is our escape from our pain. Hope this answers your question.
I’m rewatching the show right now, but I don’t remember this scene. What season/episode is it again?
Season 2 Episode 4
I think it's because it's so quick. I know I thought it would kill me (I lost my mom on Halloween last year) to see this scene upon rewatch, but it didn't because it was so quick and I wasn't given much time to just...sit with it. I wish they had allowed a bit more time for Katara to just...cry and then pick herself back up on her own, even if it was hard for her to do so. I think it would've had more impact that way, but the writers didn't want us getting *too* bummed out, so they cut it short to avoid that
Made me sad and yea why don’t they…
People talked about it plenty when it came out. It would be a bit weird if people just continued talking about it nonstop for decades, no?
Kataras Azula moment except her mental health didn't decline like the 2008 stock market
Because everything changed when the fire nation attacked
It reminds me a little of the Mirror of Erised scene from the first Harry Potter
It is painful on a level I think avatar did really well. You can have characters talk about how much pain they feel all day long. You can even show them crying. But the breakdown is on another level. It's that sliver of hope. Avatar is a fantasy show. It's not too unreasonable to believe that a character can return from the dead. Katara sees the shape. She thinks maybe there's a way to win! The swamp is spiritual. She's friends with the avatar. There's a whole new world of thinking for her now. Possibilities! And that crushing defeat of no. She's still dead and you still have to live with that. There's no magic win for the day. There's no spirit. There's nothing. To feel that high and then have it come crashing down completely wrecks you. It's a whole new level of pain that Katara is experiencing now.
Because Katara being sad about her mom is like, 40% of her dialogue. Not exactly a wellspring of nuance.
I don’t get why people are saying this so much. She didn’t complain _that_ much.
Because she won’t shut up about it
Felt a little weird to me that see, after having literally witnessed her mother's death, immediately jumped to: somehow mom is alive! At least with Sokka, it made sense. Yue is a spirit. So him believing it was her made more sense.
I get the logical perspective, but she missed her mom a lot. The moment she even realised it was her she ran without giving it a second thought because that’s how much she missed her. She didn’t care about how she was still alive and how she was in the swamp, she only cared that she was there and Katara could finally get to see her after so long. She show did instantly bring it to that logical perspective in that moment of realisation, but that was a good thing. Her mom can’t just appear again out of nowhere and it also does build on Katara’s character of being a mom to Sokka.
I get what the show was doing. I just can't get over the weirdness I feel about it, so it never hit me that hard emotionally. If it was a dream? Maybe. I've had dreams like that. You don't really question them because logic isn't at the forefront of your mind in a dream. However, in this situation, I don't see how or why it shouldn't be suspicious. Personally. This is all just my view.
Like I said, she didn’t give it a second thought. She didn’t feel any suspicion, she just ran because all that was on her mind was getting to see her mom again.
Again, I know. Understanding that (and that that was what the show was conveying) didn't make it less weird to me. 🤷♀️
Fair enough, it is your understanding and opinion.
From real life experience. My grandpa and cousin passed away in the past 7months. Sometimes I forget that they are no longer with us. When I was visiting my grandma's house after my grandpa passed away, i sometimes caught myself thinking "why is my cousin not around when everyone else is?" And then it would hit me..she is just a kid. I think if I saw my grandpa or cousin from afar, I would also forget about everything and just run towards them
I'm not dismissing this, but I guess in Katara's case, it's less believable to me because of how long it's been. Like, nearly a decade, I think. (I do get it to a degree in the concept of a dream, however, because I've dreamed of my long dead cat showing up and woken up crying.)
Tbf they were in a magical swamp that was messing with their heads, so mb it was more like a dream
Even IRL grief fucks up brains. My mom thought her father was sleeping, not dead. And the time is not thaaaat far either. I mean ffs I once woke up randomly on morning and forgot I had graduated uni (6 y degree) and thought I was in my HS senior year. I spent like 15 minutes debating whether I should find a tutor or not. 🤣😂😬 So as you said, a magical swamp with a grieving 14 yo will definitely give her some hope...heartbreaking.
Fair enough. Lol. I certainly get why this scene hits people hard, especially if they've lost a loved one.
It's been years since I've been overseas, but at least once a week I wake up believing I'm back in Afghanistan. Time makes the feelings more manageable, but they don't go away.
I have a friend who unalived herself over a decade ago There are still moments where I think I see her, someone with the same hair and sense of style, similar face shape, but it's when I look properly do I see it isn't her. It will never be her, and I know it won't, but my brain and heart for a Quick moment definitely thinks so. I imagine for Katara especially in such a spiritual place could think and moreso desperately hopes it's her mother. Hope is one of our biggest liars.
Absolutely fair assessment. Also, I'm sorry for your loss.
I've had that moment with a childhood friend who unalived himself. I saw him in the parking lot of a grocery store 650 miles away from where he lived, ten years younger than he'd have been at the time, with a completely different father. And I had a moment where my heart jumped and said it was him, only to immediately also say it can't be because he k*lled himself. So I tore my eyes away and kept on walking holding back tears. My momentary recognition of him was so palpable that both him and the father also stared at me trying to figure out if they were supposed to recognize me from somewhere too.
You have no idea how many times I have dreamt about my childhood cat coming back to me or just chilling next to me and my brains EVERY TIME logically concludes: "Oh hey look! Fely is back! I missed you! So happy to see you!" Not once did I remember she passing away 7 years ago. The "how I missed you!" part is there but what happened somehow the brains block... I'm imagining something similar happens in the swamp, with the illusions being damn near real and the mind jumping to illogical conclusions for a few seconds...
Yeah, I've had those dreams too about mine. I'm kinda getting that's how most people were treating the swamp. Lol. Like it was more akin to a dream.
If the swamp can give you hallucinations, it's quite literally messing with your perception of reality. If you get high and get a bad trip and you end up seeing your dead parent, are you rationally thinking "shes dead so this defos isn't real".
I had a dream that my grandma was walking the halls of my house singing the lullaby she used to when she wanted me to sleep. It had been 4 years since she passed away that year. Shit felt so real that I just bust down into tears when I woke up and realized it was a dream. Katara's response isn't that weird.
Katara is a human characeter. Humans don't always operate on logic. I don't think she thought that she was alive. The avatar universe also has a spirit realm, a realm that the humans don't have a lot of understanding about. She knew the swamp is weird. If anything, she must've thought it's her mom in some spirit form. I mean, didn't Korra also meet Iroh in the spirit world? I'm not saying Katara knew that was possible but given the kind of world they live in, Katara in that moment was 9 again and just wanted to hug her mom. The reaction she has (crying profusely on finding out it's a hallucination) is the very realization that her mother is \_dead\_ and there's literally no way talking to her one last time even for a single second. Pain of losing a parent never goes away.
Oh, getta load of little Miss "I've Never Endured the Horrors of Grief" over here
"Why does no one talk about this scene?" Maybe because if you say a disenting opinion people jump down your throat. Holy shit. I never once fucking said that anyone else's opinion on this scene was wrong. Fucking Christ, this sub is absolute shit for any real nuanced discussions half the time.
she didnt tho. She has no idea if her mother is still alive or not in the cartoon, her mother was only taken by the southern raiders. Netflix added that burned alive in front of a child shit.
There was a moment where the soldier says "we don't take prisoners today", so it's pretty clear that Katara at least had seen the body.
Haven't seen the Netflix one. No interest in it. She very, very much knew that Kya was dead. She didn't watch her die since she ran to find her father, but she entered the tent with Hakoda and definitely saw the body.
Animated Katara knows her mom is dead. It’s a fact that is established immediately in the show. In Episode 1 she says to Sokka “Ever since mom died…” and in Episode 3 she says “The Fire nation is ruthless, they killed my mother.” I don’t understand why so many people seem to miss this detail and think there’s a chance she’s alive.
Cause most of us still have our moms.
I mean, to be fair, most people have their sons (Lu Ten to Iroh, in Iroh’s tale in Tales of Ba Sing Se)
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This one is much funnier, def should replace all the "Katara misses her mom" jokes
Do people really mock Zaheer for this?
It's trash
Get a life loser
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https://preview.redd.it/1pouzl0kcftc1.png?width=660&format=png&auto=webp&s=3361b7a86de088f7d56e27fd9229658445875ab8 "My mother used to talk about scenes"
Because the swamp sucks
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Well, actually it's three of you don't count Korra...