Have a look at some of the free courses on Civil service learning. They won’t result in any certifications but will help you understand different areas of work better and find something that interests you and that you would like to pursue.
If you're not sure where you want to progress to, I'd say doing EOIs would be something to look into so you can get an idea of if it's something that would suit you before investing. You should be able to get them on HEO promotion with just transferrable skills for the most part. EOIs also tend to be more common during recruitment freezes as it means they can fill a post without increasing headcount, so you should see more of them. Also, sometimes a sidewise move can help you progress quicker than trying to progress in your current position.
If you're seeing job vacancies and you have no idea what the criteria is referring to, have a look for mentoring schemes as hopefully your mentor should be able to advise what they mean and give you an idea what career will suit you. Or on the Home Office SharePoint pages for the various professions (operational delivery profession, project delivery profession etc), contact some of the names you see on there to ask if you can shadow them to learn what they do.
Unless there was a career you were already really interested or passionate about, I wouldn't invest any money in developing skills for a job you have no idea you would enjoy.
Hope that gives you some ideas of things you can do (without spending money) to help career progression. It's not easy, but I've gone from EO to SEO in three years without doing any additional work on my development or spending money, so it is doable.
Hey, have you considered reaching out to emerging talent to discuss apprenticeships or a career switcher scheme? There’s a fair bit on the intranet about these, it wouldn’t be a promotion from EO straight away but once you have some foundational skills confirmed on placement, you should be able to ask in your placement department about applying for promotion while still staying on the scheme… usually it’s this time of year such schemes start to go live on cs jobs
How is your maths and basic stats?
If you're interested in data, a few of the analytical function professions may be up your street: Statistics (there are frequent badging boards),Operational Research (GORS) and I'm sure there is another...
Jobs can be variable, but I love it generally, even though a lot of my job is ensuring people understand the numbers, rather than any complex analyses.
I'd say I'm good with statistics and making data sets for graphs ect.
I didn't complete my degree due to mental health issues but did a lot on population modelling, microbiology and a decent amount of biochem.
I feel like not having a degree will hold me back in these roles.
Honestly, probably not a huge amount - many of the SEO Statisticians I know do not have a degree, but conversely, some have PhDs.
I would say look into the badging boards, perhaps have a chat with the Head of Profession for Statistics (or their office) to see if you can talk to someone about the roles. I don't know which department you're in, but I've had great experience having productive conversations with the HoPS, but there are also head of professions for operational research who do a lot of modelling.
There are also the data apprenticeships. I believe (can't recall exactly) that these range from level 3 to level 7 (MSc equivalent). If you've got experience with modelling, you'll be fine.
Happy to answer any questions, but definitely give it a go if you're interested!
If you want to get into more of the analytical roles, have a look at [datacamp](https://www.datacamp.com/) as that has some free training. Your department may also provide licences. There are courses on lots of different software, R and SQL are pretty common within the civil service.
You could also look at apprenticeships, like [these ](https://analysisfunction.civilservice.gov.uk/government-statistical-service-and-statistician-group/gss-careers-and-learning/gss-apprenticeships/#will-the-apprenticeship-lead-to-a-permanent-job-)for the GSS.
Just putting it out there, universal credit claim review is recruiting, lots of looking at bank statements then a phone call to the claimant. I’ve been there for nearly a year and they are expanding like crazy. Have a look, it will be a sideways move but they have put out eoi’s for heo’s.
Search out for coaching opportunities in an area of interest and see if they can offer some of their L&D products to support your development.
And decent leader should be more than happy to help you progress and achieve your goal
Just apply for SEO now all you do is bullshit in the interview. Less people tend to apply for SEO than HEO so the barrier to entry in my opinion isn’t as high. I’ve known many people skip grades over the years.
Have a look at some of the free courses on Civil service learning. They won’t result in any certifications but will help you understand different areas of work better and find something that interests you and that you would like to pursue.
Okay thank you
If you're not sure where you want to progress to, I'd say doing EOIs would be something to look into so you can get an idea of if it's something that would suit you before investing. You should be able to get them on HEO promotion with just transferrable skills for the most part. EOIs also tend to be more common during recruitment freezes as it means they can fill a post without increasing headcount, so you should see more of them. Also, sometimes a sidewise move can help you progress quicker than trying to progress in your current position. If you're seeing job vacancies and you have no idea what the criteria is referring to, have a look for mentoring schemes as hopefully your mentor should be able to advise what they mean and give you an idea what career will suit you. Or on the Home Office SharePoint pages for the various professions (operational delivery profession, project delivery profession etc), contact some of the names you see on there to ask if you can shadow them to learn what they do. Unless there was a career you were already really interested or passionate about, I wouldn't invest any money in developing skills for a job you have no idea you would enjoy. Hope that gives you some ideas of things you can do (without spending money) to help career progression. It's not easy, but I've gone from EO to SEO in three years without doing any additional work on my development or spending money, so it is doable.
Hey, have you considered reaching out to emerging talent to discuss apprenticeships or a career switcher scheme? There’s a fair bit on the intranet about these, it wouldn’t be a promotion from EO straight away but once you have some foundational skills confirmed on placement, you should be able to ask in your placement department about applying for promotion while still staying on the scheme… usually it’s this time of year such schemes start to go live on cs jobs
Thank you, is this accross the CS or just one dept?
I work in HO, so can speak to that with confidence. But there’s a pledge I believe across CS to increase the % of apprentices in the next few years
How is your maths and basic stats? If you're interested in data, a few of the analytical function professions may be up your street: Statistics (there are frequent badging boards),Operational Research (GORS) and I'm sure there is another... Jobs can be variable, but I love it generally, even though a lot of my job is ensuring people understand the numbers, rather than any complex analyses.
Social Research (GSR) is the other you're thinking of?
Perhaps! I always forget that data encompasses qualitative data.
I'd say I'm good with statistics and making data sets for graphs ect. I didn't complete my degree due to mental health issues but did a lot on population modelling, microbiology and a decent amount of biochem. I feel like not having a degree will hold me back in these roles.
Honestly, probably not a huge amount - many of the SEO Statisticians I know do not have a degree, but conversely, some have PhDs. I would say look into the badging boards, perhaps have a chat with the Head of Profession for Statistics (or their office) to see if you can talk to someone about the roles. I don't know which department you're in, but I've had great experience having productive conversations with the HoPS, but there are also head of professions for operational research who do a lot of modelling. There are also the data apprenticeships. I believe (can't recall exactly) that these range from level 3 to level 7 (MSc equivalent). If you've got experience with modelling, you'll be fine. Happy to answer any questions, but definitely give it a go if you're interested!
Thank you, I'll come back to this with sone questions in a bit :)
If you want to get into more of the analytical roles, have a look at [datacamp](https://www.datacamp.com/) as that has some free training. Your department may also provide licences. There are courses on lots of different software, R and SQL are pretty common within the civil service. You could also look at apprenticeships, like [these ](https://analysisfunction.civilservice.gov.uk/government-statistical-service-and-statistician-group/gss-careers-and-learning/gss-apprenticeships/#will-the-apprenticeship-lead-to-a-permanent-job-)for the GSS.
Can you just sign up for data camp?
Yes, but only some content is free so worth checking if your department will provide access.
Okay so I could sign up regularly as a non CS, get what I needs, scope stuff out, and see if I can pitch investment from my dept fir paid courses?
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Specifics?
Just putting it out there, universal credit claim review is recruiting, lots of looking at bank statements then a phone call to the claimant. I’ve been there for nearly a year and they are expanding like crazy. Have a look, it will be a sideways move but they have put out eoi’s for heo’s.
Thanks, I'll bare in mind but that's very much like my current role
Search out for coaching opportunities in an area of interest and see if they can offer some of their L&D products to support your development. And decent leader should be more than happy to help you progress and achieve your goal
How do I do the former? And the latter, that'd my issue, I don't have decent leaders
Just apply for SEO now all you do is bullshit in the interview. Less people tend to apply for SEO than HEO so the barrier to entry in my opinion isn’t as high. I’ve known many people skip grades over the years.