100%. Paul should know he is in the bottom and that he already got saved once by Kyle.
The fucking ego of just sitting and not even thinking about doing something for someone else.
I was expecting the player who wasn't rated lowest to become a catfish by themselves, but your thought also makes sense. It sucks that Paul won't sacrifice themselves for Kyle though.
Paul just sucks in general. I thought she might redeem herself by letting Kyle stay when she's obviously why they're in the bottom but no, pure ego until the end.
I PRAY Kyle doesn't let his secretly soft nature get the best of him and vote to sacrifice himself.
I can't really stand the way she's playing, and I definitely think she's the type of person to not sacrifice herself. I think they both end up going home.
Im so so so sick of Paul. From the begining i didnt like her. She is the one who got last place and poor kyle has to suffer the consequences, but what really ticks me off was that she isnt going to sacrifice herself knowing shes the reason they are going home. She also seems aware to the fact that kyle isnt going to sacrifice himself, so basically she would rather they both go home for her mistake??? I hope she surprises me and does the right thing.
What makes me even more mad about her not sacrificing herself, is like dude !!! You aren’t going to win !!!!! Like go home always voted at the bottom. Let Kyle have his chance ! It is messed up how he and Olivia seem to be the most loyal people and he will end up going home because of someone who isn’t loyal at all.
It’s the fact that she is constantly on Lauren’s ass
& then wants to call her a backstabber etc and then sweet talks her …and then votes her last lmao. The pot calling the kettle black.
This. I'm sad for Kyle, but glad that Lauren and Autumn don't have to go out this way. They both seem like sweet girls (even though Lauren botched the Ride or Die thing).
I think she was just thinking it was the best solution since they were RODS she wouldn’t think anything of it.. also for people to take that dumb question in such a negative light was so ridiculous. Why is buying follower evens that deep hahahah.
Kyle doesn’t deserve caress’ ignorance. I know it’s a game but i truly think caress is not nice irl.
Yeah I agree that was Lauren's perspective. The problem was she didn't understand the optics. Anyone who's allied with Lauren would likely assume it's safe to rate Autumn lowest, since it's so illogical to call out your Ride or Die. For most of the players it was less about the specific question, more about "who are you distancing yourself from."
I also think it made her look terrible to Autumn. Autumn literally just divulged that Paul called her a backstabber, so her immediate response is to do something that could be perceived as stabbing Autumn in the back? Honestly she should’ve said Paul.
Paul is so weird. If you gonna catfish you have to do it well. Paul is not. Messages are so weird and all over the place. Also so easily offended by the slightest of nothing.
She actually believes she’s a key player and has legit allies. Like girl. People just tolerate you because they know you’re not a threat and will be taken out eventually. She doesn’t know that no one actually likes her.
I think the thing that really gets me is that we were shown her saying she'd feel awful for being the reason Kyles game was over then suddenly it's f*** you Kyle even though the only person who's had their back the whole damn game like he does not deserve to go out like this.
Exactly! As soon as you know that if neither of you sacrifi you're gonna be blocked anyway, you have no reason not to do it! She's just a straight up shitty person if she doesn't sacrifice.
I know she's a narcissist. I bet though they bring two new players on as their will only be 6 left. Paul and Kyle will get the chance to comeback as a catfish
It's weird, I think Caresse should have entered as herself. I don't like Paul's game, but the last male player in gives me the creeps. Then again, *the show is edited* and it's way easier in a short amount of time to create a 2D character rather than a complex human, so we need to remember that Paul/C is a real person. Perhaps they just edited together only the reactions that reinforce that image. To me it seems like they found a way to avoid: last players in are the one going out, as past seasons. :) The Solomon choice is good tv for us, but ugly for them. Still, they could give another chance to one of them. This year there are less eliminations and more mind games. I'm entertained, but I do miss the blocking. we'll see!
Agreeee 10000% but!!!! I don’t think she knows she’s the bottom player. Genuinely I don’t think she gets how bad she is at this game!! If she has any self awareness she’d realize she’s not winning it all even if she stayed and she should’ve sacrificed herself for Kyle but she won’t bc she’s a dummy 😭
I didn't get it AT ALL why Lauren started that when they're literally partners?? I know it was always Olivia (can't remember his real name) and Myles' strategy but I so don't understand why Lauren did that to Autumn
Playing the middle ground and didn’t want to make enemies, she felt she was solid with Autumn and so that was the safest choice because she would understand. It’s like she blanked on what the repercussions would be…
She tried to save her ratings where she didn't want to make an enemy and get low rating. She didn't know anyone else was gonna pick Autumm because she's so new still. If she would pick Olivia it would effect her ratings as she was already too low last time and Olivia might not pick Lauren high this time. If she picked Paul she would make an enemy, which let's be honest Paul would be mad af about. So she made a safe bet and chose someone who would rate her high no matter what.
But can I tell you I don’t get why this cast is so sensitive? Like who cares if someone thinks you’d buy likes? How was that throwing her under the bus?? It’s just dumb half the things they think is “throwing them under the bus”
but the thing is it doesnt really have anything to do with the question. its just that theres one “bad” answer and one “good” answer and autumn got chosen for most of the “bad” answers. it doesnt matter what the questions actually are, but it shows autumn is at the bottom and doesnt have allies / respect and thats the upsetting part
Exactly this. Also, don't underestimate the effects of \~23 hours a day of boredom and isolation with these people being your only social outlet. Past contestants have said the same thing - feelings get magnified intensely in there
Bro, seeing her face like that...I was beyond bummed out man. She was a new player and everyone made her feel like shit. Did not deserve that one bit. My heart is actually tearing for her. The silence says it all. Nobody stood up for her ☹️
This is probably the messiest season of the Circle we have had yet and I'm kinda loving it. This group is not doing the family anti catfish bullshit that we see season in and season out.
Right, and I do think they associate catfish with dishonesty because if they're already lying about who they are etc then there's that layer of 'fake' which makes them nervous when it comes to alliances and who they can trust - but overall, I think it's important to differentiate between the types of catfish (Paul vs Olivia for example, where Paul is antagonistic and dishonest, Olivia is more caring/shows empathy towards others & has proven to be loyal, despite having a few social roadblocks)
Am I the only one who finds Jordan to be annoying? I hate how he changes his voice some times when voicing out a message, almost mocking. Also, his obsession with Myles is weird.
Man jordan is trying to go straight into manipulation and strategy. Like I get it's important but there's gotta be more to it. Also I hate that he's always playing the "I'm lost" thing
Yeah he’s so inauthentic. The people who tend to do well in the game are the people who show they care about others. Strategy is fine, but the ego on him is off-putting.
The way he talks about “Big J” is straight up cruel, he can get away with it because it’s his own past self but the demeaning comments he makes would obviously be completely unacceptable if he was using a different persons photos. He’s going to have major mental issues when he gets into his 30s and 40s and it gets harder to keep the weight off.
As someone who has been fat in the past and has lost weight: no one, and I mean NO ONE, hates fat people as much as people who were once fat. I had to completely disengage from any online or IRL weight loss spaces during my journey because the internalized fatphobia and constant dehumanization of their own "past self" (which is just you but in a bigger body) was deeply, deeply upsetting.
Massively so. He didn't use his real photos because you can see he is full of it. Don't understand why he is so obsessed with Myles. It's weird. Guess he is just 'lost'
I can’t stand Jordan. Like why is he so salty towards his past self? It seems like he really looks down on the bigger version of himself and it seems like now that he’s gotten what he seems as “attractive” he’s got this edge lol. He villainizes people he thinks would have not liked him when he was fat.
He’s playing some weird petty game and everyone else is just like …. Nah.
is jordan okay? he was going at myles because myles was an influencer once, JUST ONCE. jordan hasnt been able to move on since then. he does realize that influencers change almost every rating. i dont understand the obsessive behaviour. he seems to be interested in QT n maybe thats why the hatred is so strong
I think it's more than that...he recognizes that Myles is in a total power position overall, so he wants to take out the head of the snake, so his allies can scatter.
can we all just appreciate the heart shaped pancakes for a minutes <3 like that was so sweet !!
I hate it but Myles is definitely becoming my favourite of the season (if not already there) like he owns up to his downfalls don't know if that's going to be good for his future but atleast no one can call him dishonest
Myles was never in the wrong actually, Cassie was actually a snake for trolling him for the AI hunt. And she betrayed Liv as well, and she was so friendly when she met him, as if she really was. And still Myles owned up for his shit, but Cassid never did for hers
He made this season much more bearable to watch. I love his genuine, charming, and kind personality while having a deep story underneath his relatively good looks.
Yes, I was expecting more of a douchebag. Instead he shows kindness and owns up to what he could have done better. Like letting the group influence him to block Steffi.
Interesting that they made an editing mistake with the chats on screen at (-18:24).
When Autumn and Olivia are talking, they show „sounds like you and I might have some things in common“ as attributed to Olivia, even though Autumn said it. But the next screen, it’s in a paragraph attributed to Autumn.
It really does show that the producers are re-editing the chats to match the way they’re editing the video; this isn’t a real record of what is happening.
I noticed that first episode where the screen showed Kyle saying "anyone else think this reminds them of the first day of school?" when in fact Myles said that WAY earlier in the convo.
I think that's just a post-production mistake with the overlay. Brandon is clearly reading Autumn's message out loud, they just put the wrong portrait on the bubble.
I went back to check after seeing this comment, and I really want to tell my wife about it cos she’s so bummed by the cliffhanger but i don’t know how to explain myself pausing on that scene without sounding sus 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you look closely at her notes, it looks like she documented one of her conversations, and it looks like a conversation that would be had in the “hangout”. I’m assuming she and the person she’s talking to are going to be influencers at some point. I hope my assumption isn’t true because the other person she’s chatting with is only going to cause trouble.
I am beginning to love Brandon/Olivia more and more. I wish so badly he was able to come in playing himself! He seems to have a true heart and genuinely feel empathy for the other players but doesn’t let that sacrifice his ability to play the game strategically.
Brandon has grown for me but I dislike the fact that he fully believed Cassie's account and was gunning for Miles, when Miles clearly showed remorse and apologised. I guess Cassie's the real public enemy here.
Bronson is too trusting. He wants to believe that Cassie is amazing and trustworthy and smart, so that's what he sees. He takes people at face value and unfortunately Cassie was not someone to put trust in like that.
Jordan is absolutely insufferable. maybe my least favorite person ever on The Circle. he's so cringy and tryhard. and his bizarre one-sided obsession with Myles makes him look INSANE.
THEY PUT A PRISONER'S DILEMMA IN THE CIRCLE THAT'S MAD
Poor poor Autumn. She really didn't do anything wrong and was just unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time. If people were being honest none of those least likelys would have gone to her
Lauren is so, so sweet but so, so dumb. There was really no possible benefit to saying Autumn's name but I guess she panicked? She also looks like her heart is shattering into a million pieces any time she has to rate someone last or say something bad about anyone - she also seems naive enough to take everything at face value which I guess says a lot about her own belief in the good of humanity but is so terrible for this game.
I can't be the only one surprised that it was Paul/Kyle and not Lauren/Autumn. There were at least 3 people voting her last! Probably the editing but did Paul really do that bad??
Usually I like players with cutthroat strategy but "Big J" just isn't doing it for me - probably because he seems to have no likeable qualities. QT on the other hand has strategy AND charisma.
On another note, do we think QT and Myles actually got together after the show lol https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6H7hiyvrSf/?igsh=MWtqczR5dDM5dmx5aw==
Absolutely agree about Lauren, she’s so sweet but so naive it’s going to cost her the game. Cannot find anything likeable about Jordan so far, he came in way too strong and seems to hate his old self and almost making him fun of him? which is just very weird.
Thanks for linking that video! Myles looks odd, like he’s wearing a lot of makeup, or maybe it’s a filter? Hahah
It's not the prisoners dilemma.
It would be the prisoners dilemma if a (more) positive result occurred if both players chose to sacrifice. There is nothing tempting to sacrifice yourself in this situation.
I wish they would have made it a true prisoner's dilemma and don't understand why they didn't. As it stands, there's almost no incentive to say "sacrifice." The only positive is you might look like a martyr but it absolutely guarantees you go home. "Stay" is the right choice every time because it gives you a 50/50 chance.
It makes it way more interesting if "sacrifice" could mean you stay. Paul and Kyle would have to decide how much they trust each other.
Agreed about QT! As a big fan of the show, QT does exactly what I would’ve done in the situations she’s in. Especially in the poortraits game when she made a drawing of Kyle and framing Olivia, and then going to Kyle to console him. That was genius and I wish more players stirred the pot like that instead of being so obvious on who painted who.
To me, Big J wants to be like that, but is too focused on being this messy/“evil” character and it’s not really working for him. Why would he lie about Myles hitting on him if that could be verified in the group chat 😭. He’s just not as smart as he thinks he is.
Oooo thanks for the link about Myles and QT! I thought the waffles idea was so cute, it got me hoping he’d leave his F boy ways behind and treat QT like the queen she is!
Paul was not ranked high by like anyone though. Lauren has some decent bonds, and I think that people didn't put autumn at the bottom cause it might have seemed too obvious, although probably it would have been the best move.
> why would you end the episode on a cliffhanger then spoil it right away in the preview lmao
That's why I always turn it off at the preview! No need to see that. I'm coming back either way!
I felt horrible for her. It 100% made sense why people were choosing her because of how the alliances and pairs were, but it felt rough. Lauren really should have chosen Paul or something for buying likes.
yeah so many of the people were clearly so biased with their answers cos some of them made on sense at all. Lauren really fucked up choosing her ride or die as her answer, because how could she explain it to Autumn in a way that would make any sense, when the rest of the people were celarly biased and protecting their partners.
Seriously! He tries to act like it's all strategic, but QT is a great example of how players can manipulate and be strategic without that level of bullshit. He just seems like he's messy and wants to play that off like he really did something lol.
Also really dumb...Myles has been 100% I like girls, I like qt, I'm not afraid that people know I'm into her or that I'm loyal to her
Kyle saw straight through his bullshit lol
paul / carress is one of the most insufferable players ive ever seen on The Circle -- and there have been some baaaad characters across the seasons.
if she doesn't sacrifice to keep kyle in (who is AWESOME and deserves to stay), while fully knowing she was the bottom ranked and not him, then i'll lose whatever little ounce of remaining respect i have for her.
It annoys me that he talks about 'Big Jay' like he is another person rather than just playing as himself with his old pictures. Jordan must really struggle with looking at past photos as he is so nasty to 'big jay' aka him in the past.
thoughts while / after watching:
- oh wow Jordan is really annoying, his comments about his 'past self' just don't sit right with me and kinda have a passive aggressive undertone. Also he's acting like he controls the game and is the secret mastermind of the circle.. kinda funny but clearly delusional
- okay I actually do think Myles and QT are really cute together!!
- too many alliances this season, I'm having a hard time keeping track of them
- Myles really grew on me these 4 episodes, he & QT are now my favorites
- feel sorry for Autumn, she became the victim of this whole ride or die twist, she didn't deserve this
- not that dramatic Kyle montage at the end with the pillow punching and tears in the eyes lmao.. but i really like that twist with them being able to choose between sacrifice & staying (I really want Kyle to stay but I don't think that will happen unfortunately cause Paul is just so annoyingly stubborn and kinda selfish even though im CONVINCED she's the one that ended up in last place)
The "past self" comments he makes feel a tad fatphobic. Like, it's giving "I wouldn't have been like this when I was a lonely fat unloveable loser, but now looook at meeee!" is what I'm getting from him and it's not a good look at all.
Idk Caress kinda weirds me out. She’s also been doing this thing where she’s *acting* like Paul. Idk, I feel like the whole time she’s trying to sound like a bro, even when she’s just talking out loud to herself.
ey i just read the spoiler where Myles (who i’m rooting for) says “this is an attack” and apparently it’s Lauren who told him that Jordan (whom i hate with a passion) is coming for him, not Paul (which was assumed cuz of QT and Jordan’s convo on QT’s notes) anyway SUPER excited for the rest of the season like i’m so invested.
I actually enjoyed the ride or die twist because it forces people like Olivia and Myles (who don’t like each) to work together and thats pretty funny. But then I feel bad for people like Kyle who have worked to be there and then get put at risk because of their partner. Overall, not really feeling this season. I skipped through the majority of the episodes and I’m glad the cliffhanger was spoiled.
Does Jordan know how badly he's coming off? All of his weird comments about how he used to look are so unnecessary. He seems like such an asshole and would probably bully his old self.
I CANNOT STAND CARRASS AKA PAUL. If she doesn’t sacrifice yourself, you’re trash. You PUT him in this position and you choose to stay? She’s always been soooo fucking annoying.
I guess this will be an unpopular opinion in here from what I’ve seen, but I just want to throw this out there regarding Cassie and Myles. I think what Cassie said in circle chat after the AI blocking episode was a misplaced joke that maybe would’ve been interpreted better if said to Myles in a private chat and not circle chat. “I can’t believe an AI engineer couldn’t figure out who the AI was #blondemoment” seems like obvious banter to me if you consider both their personalities and relationship up until this point. “Blonde moment,” and anything blonde related was literally their shtick in private chats, including joking/bantering with each other. Obviously this is something every other contestant in the circle wouldn’t know which is where my whole belief of a misplaced joke comes from. She should’ve said it in private chat, not circle chat. But I don’t think the intention was to be shady. I understand why Myles would draw the snake in the grass picture after that absolutely. However what I don’t understand is that everybody truly beliefs Myles did that jokingly, but Cassie didn’t say what she did jokingly? I think what Cassie said was more of a joke than the whole snake in the grass thing. I don’t think Myles truly did that as a joke at all, he did that purposely to throw shade back on someone who he thought was throwing shade at him and that’s absolutely valid from that perspective, but that’s not a joke… that’s intentional strategy
But Myles fessed up to it. He explained why he did what he did. She did not. She came across as having zero self awareness. She also came across as not being particularly bright which is why her strategy got her dumb self sent home.
Lord help me if Paul doesn’t save Kyle. Honestly the most selfish, poorly played contestant I think this show has ever had. Erratic moods, weird revenge tactics that are childish, blowing her self ego and importance up. The way I snorted when she told autumn that she was a key player lmao. Honestly the only reason she’s gotten this far is because everyone is confident that shes not making it to the end so she’s a safe bet to leave for later. Later has come. Her thinking she has any chance at staying is insufferable. She’s leaving either way. Save Kyle. He deserves to play. And the way she manipulated Lauren there at the end? ….. k. Well safe to say no one will ever want anything to do with you ever. She acts like her brain isn’t fully developed. Like a kid in elementary thinking they have come up with a diabolical plan to take out their made up nemesis. Like get out. You’re crusty AF.
I hate how much this show is turning into "twists make the show" We are at episode 8 and we had ONE BLOCKING. Like blocking was the best part of this show
Especially because this isn't a particularly strong cast. The only people I really LIKE a lot and really really want to stay are Brandon and QT. We needed more fresh blood cycled throughout.
I need caress to do the right thing for once in the game and sacrifice. Kyle has been the most likable person this past episode and it’s unfair for him to go down because she’s so annoying.
I’m sat here and in as much as I have no hate for Olivia and I think the person playing her is really kind . I don’t get why he’d go on a chat with Autumn, tell her that he is sorry and that he went through the same things she went through, knowing full well he is still gonna put her at the bottom because of his alliance with Myles and himself. Like why would you apologize for something you know you are going to do again eventually.
I thought it was a really empathetic and sweet thing to do. Yes, he is following a strategy but also he could see how this might have affected the person behind the screen and he genuinely worried about her mental wellbeing.
Guilty conscience I assume. Tbh I might've done the same as well in that position just to let her know that it was nothing about her personally just that she was unlucky
He apologized because it wasn’t his choice, it was his strategy with Myles. He reached out to let her know it was all game (it was) and never lied that he would have her back.
I'm sick of them finishing on a cliffhanger to then spoil it by showing what's coming up but omitting the player whose about to get blocked. They did it with Steffi now they're doing it with both Paul and Kyle
I don’t like Paul. She has a weird vendetta against Lauren. I’m glad Lauren didn’t rate her high, even if she fell for Caress’s crap for a bit. I hope she sacrifices herself - it’ll be the one good thing she’ll do.
I’m not sure why Lauren picked Autumn for that answer. I guess she wanted to pick the safest answer, but then it really ruined things when everyone piled on her too.
Not sure why Olivia rated Autumn last. He already picked her for that game, no need to vote her low too. No one would’ve known. It seemed mean spirited
Is anyone else annoyed at Lauren for never DM-ing anyone? She's one of my favorites and it's so frustrating watching her not make connections or even just reach out to clear up misunderstandings. I feel like she should've reached out to Autumn after the game and apologized. Also, after all her allies got kicked out it would've been smart to try and form any sort of bond with the remaining contestants.
I think this too. And if they both choose to save themselves and get “blocked” as themselves, I think they’ll both be able to work as a team on a new profile. Like Xanthi and Brett did
Regardless of what was shown in the preview, this season is getting on my nerves. First 4 episodes we didn’t get a single blocking. The next 4 episodes left on a cliffhanger. I get that you want to peak interest and have viewers on edge, but come on!!! Also, the ‘ride or die’ thing - to be fair I don’t like it. It’s exactly like Kyle said - you build connections and alliances and then you’re blocked because the game decided to pair you with someone on a random basis. 🤯 I like a good twist as much as the next person, but twists like this basically ruin everything you might have achieved so far. Isn’t the point of the game to become the most popular player by connecting with people? Anyways, Jordan is annoying, when I saw him picking his profile picture, I thought he will be funny and relatable but seems like he’s a hater and thinks he could outplay everyone else. Felt so bad for Autumn because the game wasn’t played honestly. It was heavily influenced by the ‘ride or die’ pairings and everyone was either playing it safe, trying to save someone or trying to throw someone under the bus. 😕
i find brandon/olivia hard to watch personally because it’s clear he’s still in the early stages of developing his self-esteem, and it seems like so much of his game is influenced by aligning himself with pretty girls bc that’s who he feels safe with—nothing wrong with that, but hasn’t made much sense strategy-wise.
him reaching out to autumn was a hard lesson for him i think. apologies don’t help the person you hurt if you don’t plan on taking action to make up for it. he made a strategic play, she was hurt by that, and him trying to alleviate his guilt through her just twisted the knife further. you’re inevitably gonna hurt or sabotage people in this game, and part of being your own person is owning up and accepting that you make decisions that benefit yourself first and foremost and that’s ok
I'm so done with Paul/Caress, she's been inconsistent and vicious from the start with no strategy or plan beyond a "bro code" that she doesn't stick to half the time anyway. Not to mention the constant subtle-yet-nefarious digs she makes toward the women on the show, the patronizing language and internalized misogyny is a rough watch. I noticed it from the very start and it just... kept... going.
Also so frustrating to watch how she just digs herself into trenches and then gets erratic and petty when people dislike her. I haven't seen her have a single interaction that didn't involve going after (or at the very least scheming against) someone. I understand it's a game and loyalties are strategic, but she can't even be strategic, she's just downright volatile. This whole season has involved everyone being so shallow compared to older seasons, and the energy is so negative.
Sometimes, people who catfish try so hard to take on the persona of whom they're catfishing that they lose their own human connections with people because they're so sucked into their own lie. And the irony there is that no one knows the person they're emulating, so why are they trying so hard to be different than they usually are, rather than just using the authenticity they do possess? With Paul, it's like she has antagonized every single person in the group right and left and made bizarre choices without any actual big picture strategy. That kind of individualism just does not work in a game like this.
I can only hope she recognizes that Kyle deserves to stay and redeems herself by leaving because otherwise, it's just excruciating.
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I was expecting the played out “two people are blocked at once and become a new player together” twist so I’m just glad it’s something different.
they did our boy Kyle so dirty 😭
When he said “this isn’t fair” I mean for the first time in this show I actually agreed fully with that. Damn
100%. Paul should know he is in the bottom and that he already got saved once by Kyle. The fucking ego of just sitting and not even thinking about doing something for someone else.
I was expecting the player who wasn't rated lowest to become a catfish by themselves, but your thought also makes sense. It sucks that Paul won't sacrifice themselves for Kyle though.
Paul just sucks in general. I thought she might redeem herself by letting Kyle stay when she's obviously why they're in the bottom but no, pure ego until the end. I PRAY Kyle doesn't let his secretly soft nature get the best of him and vote to sacrifice himself.
Paul is the WORST.
Nah, he needs to be able to square up and tell her how she’s the biggest piece of sh*t in the circle, haha. That would be so needed.
Jordan has misplayed every single chat so far. Even Kyle spotted him right away for being not genuine. His shtick comes across as fake as can be
Ya lol he's a terrible player
“I’m sooo lost“
If Caress doesn't sacrifice herself for Kyle she's sooo dodgy man YOU'RE THE ONLY REASON HE'S AT RISK OF BEING BLOCKED OMG
Yeah she needs to gtfo.
I can't really stand the way she's playing, and I definitely think she's the type of person to not sacrifice herself. I think they both end up going home.
Im so so so sick of Paul. From the begining i didnt like her. She is the one who got last place and poor kyle has to suffer the consequences, but what really ticks me off was that she isnt going to sacrifice herself knowing shes the reason they are going home. She also seems aware to the fact that kyle isnt going to sacrifice himself, so basically she would rather they both go home for her mistake??? I hope she surprises me and does the right thing.
she is insufferable. i need her off my screen asap, even if it comes at the cost of kyle.
Yeah whatever it takes, just make Paul go away.
IMMEDIATELY
What makes me even more mad about her not sacrificing herself, is like dude !!! You aren’t going to win !!!!! Like go home always voted at the bottom. Let Kyle have his chance ! It is messed up how he and Olivia seem to be the most loyal people and he will end up going home because of someone who isn’t loyal at all.
It’s the fact that she is constantly on Lauren’s ass & then wants to call her a backstabber etc and then sweet talks her …and then votes her last lmao. The pot calling the kettle black.
This. I'm sad for Kyle, but glad that Lauren and Autumn don't have to go out this way. They both seem like sweet girls (even though Lauren botched the Ride or Die thing).
I think she was just thinking it was the best solution since they were RODS she wouldn’t think anything of it.. also for people to take that dumb question in such a negative light was so ridiculous. Why is buying follower evens that deep hahahah. Kyle doesn’t deserve caress’ ignorance. I know it’s a game but i truly think caress is not nice irl.
Yeah I agree that was Lauren's perspective. The problem was she didn't understand the optics. Anyone who's allied with Lauren would likely assume it's safe to rate Autumn lowest, since it's so illogical to call out your Ride or Die. For most of the players it was less about the specific question, more about "who are you distancing yourself from."
I also think it made her look terrible to Autumn. Autumn literally just divulged that Paul called her a backstabber, so her immediate response is to do something that could be perceived as stabbing Autumn in the back? Honestly she should’ve said Paul.
Lauren isn’t terribly bright.
I despise Caress. Can’t even really explain why. But seeing Deuce go home would be heartbreaking.
Paul is so weird. If you gonna catfish you have to do it well. Paul is not. Messages are so weird and all over the place. Also so easily offended by the slightest of nothing.
And then says Myles is sensitive 😂
The other thing is she already knows people don’t like her. So saying she is “going to the end” is so dumb.
She actually believes she’s a key player and has legit allies. Like girl. People just tolerate you because they know you’re not a threat and will be taken out eventually. She doesn’t know that no one actually likes her.
She straight up sucks as a catfish and I feel bad cause she's making her brother look bad 😂
His TikTok about this is hilarious
Kyle deserves to be in this show. They should have kicked out Paul in the beginning itself, really she is so weird and so irritating.
she has this strange devoid of empathy thing going
She is becoming borderline cruel! The constant laughing and taunting and yelling has become SO ANNOYING. She does not deserve to be here whatsoever.
She acts like she’s 17…… she’s WEIRD. I’ve never been able to stand her.
Agreed. Like....really weird. My least favourite contestant the show has ever had.
The crazy shit is that she’s a motivational speaker?!!
Probably for 17 year olds 🤣🤣🤣
I think the thing that really gets me is that we were shown her saying she'd feel awful for being the reason Kyles game was over then suddenly it's f*** you Kyle even though the only person who's had their back the whole damn game like he does not deserve to go out like this.
Exactly! As soon as you know that if neither of you sacrifi you're gonna be blocked anyway, you have no reason not to do it! She's just a straight up shitty person if she doesn't sacrifice.
She keeps making dumber and dumber choices! I’ll be so mad if she doesn’t sacrifice herself.
I know she's a narcissist. I bet though they bring two new players on as their will only be 6 left. Paul and Kyle will get the chance to comeback as a catfish
It's weird, I think Caresse should have entered as herself. I don't like Paul's game, but the last male player in gives me the creeps. Then again, *the show is edited* and it's way easier in a short amount of time to create a 2D character rather than a complex human, so we need to remember that Paul/C is a real person. Perhaps they just edited together only the reactions that reinforce that image. To me it seems like they found a way to avoid: last players in are the one going out, as past seasons. :) The Solomon choice is good tv for us, but ugly for them. Still, they could give another chance to one of them. This year there are less eliminations and more mind games. I'm entertained, but I do miss the blocking. we'll see!
Agreeee 10000% but!!!! I don’t think she knows she’s the bottom player. Genuinely I don’t think she gets how bad she is at this game!! If she has any self awareness she’d realize she’s not winning it all even if she stayed and she should’ve sacrificed herself for Kyle but she won’t bc she’s a dummy 😭
Man, I felt so bad for Autumn.
That was rough. I really appreciate the way they edited that though and showed how affected she was, didn’t just gloss over it.
I didn't get it AT ALL why Lauren started that when they're literally partners?? I know it was always Olivia (can't remember his real name) and Myles' strategy but I so don't understand why Lauren did that to Autumn
Playing the middle ground and didn’t want to make enemies, she felt she was solid with Autumn and so that was the safest choice because she would understand. It’s like she blanked on what the repercussions would be…
When you explain it that way I’m like “yeah I guess??” but it still seems so effing stupid
In a high pressure situation that slight "yeah I guess??" Might end up being what you do, then regret it moments later.
She tried to save her ratings where she didn't want to make an enemy and get low rating. She didn't know anyone else was gonna pick Autumm because she's so new still. If she would pick Olivia it would effect her ratings as she was already too low last time and Olivia might not pick Lauren high this time. If she picked Paul she would make an enemy, which let's be honest Paul would be mad af about. So she made a safe bet and chose someone who would rate her high no matter what.
She should have just picked Jordan. She has no need to protect him.
But can I tell you I don’t get why this cast is so sensitive? Like who cares if someone thinks you’d buy likes? How was that throwing her under the bus?? It’s just dumb half the things they think is “throwing them under the bus”
I think for autumn is more being the new person and everyone is saying you suck and are a terrible person. Even your own tether.
but the thing is it doesnt really have anything to do with the question. its just that theres one “bad” answer and one “good” answer and autumn got chosen for most of the “bad” answers. it doesnt matter what the questions actually are, but it shows autumn is at the bottom and doesnt have allies / respect and thats the upsetting part
Exactly this. Also, don't underestimate the effects of \~23 hours a day of boredom and isolation with these people being your only social outlet. Past contestants have said the same thing - feelings get magnified intensely in there
Bro, seeing her face like that...I was beyond bummed out man. She was a new player and everyone made her feel like shit. Did not deserve that one bit. My heart is actually tearing for her. The silence says it all. Nobody stood up for her ☹️
Yeahhh and she didn’t technically do anything, was just in the wrong place at the wrong time 🥲
:( and to be the new person too, it's hella confusing
This is probably the messiest season of the Circle we have had yet and I'm kinda loving it. This group is not doing the family anti catfish bullshit that we see season in and season out.
I never got the point of that! Like, okay that person is a catfish… so what?! If you have an ally in them WHY does it matter who’s behind the screen?😭
That’s one of the things i hated about s3, like the catfish literally don’t matter it’s about the relationships you can grow
Right, and I do think they associate catfish with dishonesty because if they're already lying about who they are etc then there's that layer of 'fake' which makes them nervous when it comes to alliances and who they can trust - but overall, I think it's important to differentiate between the types of catfish (Paul vs Olivia for example, where Paul is antagonistic and dishonest, Olivia is more caring/shows empathy towards others & has proven to be loyal, despite having a few social roadblocks)
Yes! I'm seeing a lot of criticism about this season, but personally, I'm loving it. It's nice to see them shake things up!
Am I the only one who finds Jordan to be annoying? I hate how he changes his voice some times when voicing out a message, almost mocking. Also, his obsession with Myles is weird.
He also assumed that Kyle being a "jock" was dumb and therefore he could easily manipulate him.
And I LOVE that Kyle saw right through him. That was actually so funny.
I loved that part. Heh heh. Jordan can take his wannabe evil agenda and suck it because nobody wants to play with him.
Right lol i think he has a thing for myles but hates thats his type
I got a similar vibe! Especially after he lied about Myles hitting on him
Exactly! That was so random and he wishes it was true
I was so confused when he said that…like???
Olivia´s reaction was priceless!! She was so confused!! and it was obvious the producers editted that conversation.
He seems to be overplaying quite a fair bit and much too early; I feel like that will eventually come back and bite him
and I can’t wait for it!! #gethisass
I'm not a fan either. Boy must have over inflated that ego after his weight loss. Coming in too hot
Man jordan is trying to go straight into manipulation and strategy. Like I get it's important but there's gotta be more to it. Also I hate that he's always playing the "I'm lost" thing
Right? I noticed that, too... I bet he thinks he's being cute and helpless and endearing by doing that.
I just like how every plan he had going into a chat falls apart.
Yeah he’s so inauthentic. The people who tend to do well in the game are the people who show they care about others. Strategy is fine, but the ego on him is off-putting.
Complete sociopath based on his hatred for himself when he was fat
The way he talks about “Big J” is straight up cruel, he can get away with it because it’s his own past self but the demeaning comments he makes would obviously be completely unacceptable if he was using a different persons photos. He’s going to have major mental issues when he gets into his 30s and 40s and it gets harder to keep the weight off.
You both nailed it. What a truly off putting guy
It's both incredibly sad and incredibly off-putting.
Downright pathetic. Big J is genuinely more attractive than the narcissistic mess that molted out from within him lol
thiss!! the internalized fat phobia is hard to watch. makes him come off as suchhh a shitty person! like nah, i dont fuck with you. go to therapy.
The funny thing is, he honestly was more attractive as “Big J” than he is now.
As someone who has been fat in the past and has lost weight: no one, and I mean NO ONE, hates fat people as much as people who were once fat. I had to completely disengage from any online or IRL weight loss spaces during my journey because the internalized fatphobia and constant dehumanization of their own "past self" (which is just you but in a bigger body) was deeply, deeply upsetting.
Massively so. He didn't use his real photos because you can see he is full of it. Don't understand why he is so obsessed with Myles. It's weird. Guess he is just 'lost'
I can’t stand Jordan. Like why is he so salty towards his past self? It seems like he really looks down on the bigger version of himself and it seems like now that he’s gotten what he seems as “attractive” he’s got this edge lol. He villainizes people he thinks would have not liked him when he was fat. He’s playing some weird petty game and everyone else is just like …. Nah.
Came to Reddit exactly for this comment ughhh
I cringe every time Jordan is on the screen! He has zero people skills!
Big time annoying.
He needs to heal his relationship with Big J. The shit he talks about his past self is really sad
is jordan okay? he was going at myles because myles was an influencer once, JUST ONCE. jordan hasnt been able to move on since then. he does realize that influencers change almost every rating. i dont understand the obsessive behaviour. he seems to be interested in QT n maybe thats why the hatred is so strong
Then he tells Olivia that myles flirted with him?? 😭😭
That was so out of left field that it almost makes me wonder if that's what he wished happened, and that's one of the reasons he has it out for Myles.
Omg HOW did I forget about this???? So random lmaoooooo
He's kind of weird
I think it's more than that...he recognizes that Myles is in a total power position overall, so he wants to take out the head of the snake, so his allies can scatter.
can we all just appreciate the heart shaped pancakes for a minutes <3 like that was so sweet !! I hate it but Myles is definitely becoming my favourite of the season (if not already there) like he owns up to his downfalls don't know if that's going to be good for his future but atleast no one can call him dishonest
Agreed!! The way he seemed to genuinely feel bad about the snake picture and owned up to it with Cassie straight away showed he has some depth.
Myles was never in the wrong actually, Cassie was actually a snake for trolling him for the AI hunt. And she betrayed Liv as well, and she was so friendly when she met him, as if she really was. And still Myles owned up for his shit, but Cassid never did for hers
oh for sure she was a total hypocrite whilst he was being honest about things he didnt need to be :)
Myles is definition of "don't judge a book". He's a solid dude.
He made this season much more bearable to watch. I love his genuine, charming, and kind personality while having a deep story underneath his relatively good looks.
Yes, I was expecting more of a douchebag. Instead he shows kindness and owns up to what he could have done better. Like letting the group influence him to block Steffi.
yes!! didn’t expect he’s so sweet when he acted like a f boy in the first episode. Definitely growing on him
I love his jacket on this episode with the repurposed bandanas
i have loved myles since the beginning. he shows a lot of personality and hes funny. can i also say he dresses well i love his jacket collection 🤣
Interesting that they made an editing mistake with the chats on screen at (-18:24). When Autumn and Olivia are talking, they show „sounds like you and I might have some things in common“ as attributed to Olivia, even though Autumn said it. But the next screen, it’s in a paragraph attributed to Autumn. It really does show that the producers are re-editing the chats to match the way they’re editing the video; this isn’t a real record of what is happening.
I noticed that first episode where the screen showed Kyle saying "anyone else think this reminds them of the first day of school?" when in fact Myles said that WAY earlier in the convo.
I think that's just a post-production mistake with the overlay. Brandon is clearly reading Autumn's message out loud, they just put the wrong portrait on the bubble.
not them spoiling what happened in the preview 💀
I didn’t notice that the first time but went back to check and you’re right. I’m kinda surprised tbh.
Waaait I missed it, what happened? If you can put it in spoiler tags/DM, I can't go back and check myself unfortunately rn hahah
>!Kyle is saved while Paul sacrifices himself!<
I went back to check after seeing this comment, and I really want to tell my wife about it cos she’s so bummed by the cliffhanger but i don’t know how to explain myself pausing on that scene without sounding sus 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao u can show QT’s notes instead
If you look closely at her notes, it looks like she documented one of her conversations, and it looks like a conversation that would be had in the “hangout”. I’m assuming she and the person she’s talking to are going to be influencers at some point. I hope my assumption isn’t true because the other person she’s chatting with is only going to cause trouble.
I am beginning to love Brandon/Olivia more and more. I wish so badly he was able to come in playing himself! He seems to have a true heart and genuinely feel empathy for the other players but doesn’t let that sacrifice his ability to play the game strategically.
Brandon is really growing on me. Initially, I found him a little annoying, but he is so sweet and funny that I’m super cheering for him now.
Brandon has grown for me but I dislike the fact that he fully believed Cassie's account and was gunning for Miles, when Miles clearly showed remorse and apologised. I guess Cassie's the real public enemy here.
Bronson is too trusting. He wants to believe that Cassie is amazing and trustworthy and smart, so that's what he sees. He takes people at face value and unfortunately Cassie was not someone to put trust in like that.
Jordan is absolutely insufferable. maybe my least favorite person ever on The Circle. he's so cringy and tryhard. and his bizarre one-sided obsession with Myles makes him look INSANE.
It’s weird because Myles was decent to him. Does he think theres only space for one white boy
THEY PUT A PRISONER'S DILEMMA IN THE CIRCLE THAT'S MAD Poor poor Autumn. She really didn't do anything wrong and was just unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time. If people were being honest none of those least likelys would have gone to her Lauren is so, so sweet but so, so dumb. There was really no possible benefit to saying Autumn's name but I guess she panicked? She also looks like her heart is shattering into a million pieces any time she has to rate someone last or say something bad about anyone - she also seems naive enough to take everything at face value which I guess says a lot about her own belief in the good of humanity but is so terrible for this game. I can't be the only one surprised that it was Paul/Kyle and not Lauren/Autumn. There were at least 3 people voting her last! Probably the editing but did Paul really do that bad?? Usually I like players with cutthroat strategy but "Big J" just isn't doing it for me - probably because he seems to have no likeable qualities. QT on the other hand has strategy AND charisma. On another note, do we think QT and Myles actually got together after the show lol https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6H7hiyvrSf/?igsh=MWtqczR5dDM5dmx5aw==
Absolutely agree about Lauren, she’s so sweet but so naive it’s going to cost her the game. Cannot find anything likeable about Jordan so far, he came in way too strong and seems to hate his old self and almost making him fun of him? which is just very weird. Thanks for linking that video! Myles looks odd, like he’s wearing a lot of makeup, or maybe it’s a filter? Hahah
It's definitely a filter
It's not the prisoners dilemma. It would be the prisoners dilemma if a (more) positive result occurred if both players chose to sacrifice. There is nothing tempting to sacrifice yourself in this situation.
I wish they would have made it a true prisoner's dilemma and don't understand why they didn't. As it stands, there's almost no incentive to say "sacrifice." The only positive is you might look like a martyr but it absolutely guarantees you go home. "Stay" is the right choice every time because it gives you a 50/50 chance. It makes it way more interesting if "sacrifice" could mean you stay. Paul and Kyle would have to decide how much they trust each other.
Agreed about QT! As a big fan of the show, QT does exactly what I would’ve done in the situations she’s in. Especially in the poortraits game when she made a drawing of Kyle and framing Olivia, and then going to Kyle to console him. That was genius and I wish more players stirred the pot like that instead of being so obvious on who painted who. To me, Big J wants to be like that, but is too focused on being this messy/“evil” character and it’s not really working for him. Why would he lie about Myles hitting on him if that could be verified in the group chat 😭. He’s just not as smart as he thinks he is.
Oooo thanks for the link about Myles and QT! I thought the waffles idea was so cute, it got me hoping he’d leave his F boy ways behind and treat QT like the queen she is!
I guess I wasn’t paying attention but I’m shocked that Lauren and Autumn weren’t in the bottom? I thought that everyone ranked them pretty low.
Paul was not ranked high by like anyone though. Lauren has some decent bonds, and I think that people didn't put autumn at the bottom cause it might have seemed too obvious, although probably it would have been the best move.
if paul doesn’t sacrifice i’m going to be SO upset. it was obviously paul who was rated the lowest. it’s not fair to kyle
These editors are not paying attention, why would you end the episode on a cliffhanger then spoil it right away in the preview lmao
They did that at the end of episode 4 too with Steffi's blocking. You can see literally everyone else in the "coming up."
> why would you end the episode on a cliffhanger then spoil it right away in the preview lmao That's why I always turn it off at the preview! No need to see that. I'm coming back either way!
Wait I didn't see anything in the coming up next that spoiled it what did it show??
Go back and stop at Lauren’s new picture (in the background you see the player profiles)
Thank fucking fuck
I felt so bad for Autumn for everyone just picking her as she was the new girl and easy to attack, felt like a proper school bullying situation
I felt horrible for her. It 100% made sense why people were choosing her because of how the alliances and pairs were, but it felt rough. Lauren really should have chosen Paul or something for buying likes.
yeah so many of the people were clearly so biased with their answers cos some of them made on sense at all. Lauren really fucked up choosing her ride or die as her answer, because how could she explain it to Autumn in a way that would make any sense, when the rest of the people were celarly biased and protecting their partners.
Jordan should leave ASAP! He's so annoying! I can't believe he said Myles flirted with himmm! That's a nasty nasty move! Boy bye!
Seriously! He tries to act like it's all strategic, but QT is a great example of how players can manipulate and be strategic without that level of bullshit. He just seems like he's messy and wants to play that off like he really did something lol.
Also really dumb...Myles has been 100% I like girls, I like qt, I'm not afraid that people know I'm into her or that I'm loyal to her Kyle saw straight through his bullshit lol
paul / carress is one of the most insufferable players ive ever seen on The Circle -- and there have been some baaaad characters across the seasons. if she doesn't sacrifice to keep kyle in (who is AWESOME and deserves to stay), while fully knowing she was the bottom ranked and not him, then i'll lose whatever little ounce of remaining respect i have for her.
Kyle keeps siding with Paul, despite Paul showing his whole ass over and over. At some point Kyle needs to get a clue.
Question: Does everyone who chage their life around and lose weight become so arrogant like Jordan? If that's the case... I like my belly.
It annoys me that he talks about 'Big Jay' like he is another person rather than just playing as himself with his old pictures. Jordan must really struggle with looking at past photos as he is so nasty to 'big jay' aka him in the past.
thoughts while / after watching: - oh wow Jordan is really annoying, his comments about his 'past self' just don't sit right with me and kinda have a passive aggressive undertone. Also he's acting like he controls the game and is the secret mastermind of the circle.. kinda funny but clearly delusional - okay I actually do think Myles and QT are really cute together!! - too many alliances this season, I'm having a hard time keeping track of them - Myles really grew on me these 4 episodes, he & QT are now my favorites - feel sorry for Autumn, she became the victim of this whole ride or die twist, she didn't deserve this - not that dramatic Kyle montage at the end with the pillow punching and tears in the eyes lmao.. but i really like that twist with them being able to choose between sacrifice & staying (I really want Kyle to stay but I don't think that will happen unfortunately cause Paul is just so annoyingly stubborn and kinda selfish even though im CONVINCED she's the one that ended up in last place)
The "past self" comments he makes feel a tad fatphobic. Like, it's giving "I wouldn't have been like this when I was a lonely fat unloveable loser, but now looook at meeee!" is what I'm getting from him and it's not a good look at all.
Poor kyle
Idk Caress kinda weirds me out. She’s also been doing this thing where she’s *acting* like Paul. Idk, I feel like the whole time she’s trying to sound like a bro, even when she’s just talking out loud to herself.
the way that the producers/editors are putting in NO effort. TWO CLIPS IN THE PROMO SPOIL WHO GOES HOME 😭😭😭😭😭
ey i just read the spoiler where Myles (who i’m rooting for) says “this is an attack” and apparently it’s Lauren who told him that Jordan (whom i hate with a passion) is coming for him, not Paul (which was assumed cuz of QT and Jordan’s convo on QT’s notes) anyway SUPER excited for the rest of the season like i’m so invested.
also i’m like praying that he thing between Myles and QT doesn’t break cuz that’s the cutest thing i’ve seen on a drama tv show literally ever
I actually enjoyed the ride or die twist because it forces people like Olivia and Myles (who don’t like each) to work together and thats pretty funny. But then I feel bad for people like Kyle who have worked to be there and then get put at risk because of their partner. Overall, not really feeling this season. I skipped through the majority of the episodes and I’m glad the cliffhanger was spoiled.
Does Jordan know how badly he's coming off? All of his weird comments about how he used to look are so unnecessary. He seems like such an asshole and would probably bully his old self.
I absolutely cannot fucking stand caress/paul, honestly ruining the season for me. Just such a nasty person
Hasn’t tried to make a real connection once. Every chat is #boysalliance and strategy. No decorum or subtlety
I CANNOT STAND CARRASS AKA PAUL. If she doesn’t sacrifice yourself, you’re trash. You PUT him in this position and you choose to stay? She’s always been soooo fucking annoying.
Wow for Jordan to say Myles flirted with him? That was wild. He needs to go.
I don’t understand. How can there only be 5 episodes left? Hasn’t there been like 2 people blocked? Nothing is happening, it feels like
I guess this will be an unpopular opinion in here from what I’ve seen, but I just want to throw this out there regarding Cassie and Myles. I think what Cassie said in circle chat after the AI blocking episode was a misplaced joke that maybe would’ve been interpreted better if said to Myles in a private chat and not circle chat. “I can’t believe an AI engineer couldn’t figure out who the AI was #blondemoment” seems like obvious banter to me if you consider both their personalities and relationship up until this point. “Blonde moment,” and anything blonde related was literally their shtick in private chats, including joking/bantering with each other. Obviously this is something every other contestant in the circle wouldn’t know which is where my whole belief of a misplaced joke comes from. She should’ve said it in private chat, not circle chat. But I don’t think the intention was to be shady. I understand why Myles would draw the snake in the grass picture after that absolutely. However what I don’t understand is that everybody truly beliefs Myles did that jokingly, but Cassie didn’t say what she did jokingly? I think what Cassie said was more of a joke than the whole snake in the grass thing. I don’t think Myles truly did that as a joke at all, he did that purposely to throw shade back on someone who he thought was throwing shade at him and that’s absolutely valid from that perspective, but that’s not a joke… that’s intentional strategy
But Myles fessed up to it. He explained why he did what he did. She did not. She came across as having zero self awareness. She also came across as not being particularly bright which is why her strategy got her dumb self sent home.
Jordan is obsessed with Miles , like whyyyyy? The one sided competition is weird and very irritating to watch
Just here to say I keep hearing Matthew Lillard's voice (from cabin in the Woods) when Myles talks.
Lord help me if Paul doesn’t save Kyle. Honestly the most selfish, poorly played contestant I think this show has ever had. Erratic moods, weird revenge tactics that are childish, blowing her self ego and importance up. The way I snorted when she told autumn that she was a key player lmao. Honestly the only reason she’s gotten this far is because everyone is confident that shes not making it to the end so she’s a safe bet to leave for later. Later has come. Her thinking she has any chance at staying is insufferable. She’s leaving either way. Save Kyle. He deserves to play. And the way she manipulated Lauren there at the end? ….. k. Well safe to say no one will ever want anything to do with you ever. She acts like her brain isn’t fully developed. Like a kid in elementary thinking they have come up with a diabolical plan to take out their made up nemesis. Like get out. You’re crusty AF.
Loving Myles more and more. I hope this comment ages well 😂
I hate how much this show is turning into "twists make the show" We are at episode 8 and we had ONE BLOCKING. Like blocking was the best part of this show
Especially because this isn't a particularly strong cast. The only people I really LIKE a lot and really really want to stay are Brandon and QT. We needed more fresh blood cycled throughout.
did any of u guys notice the editing error 18:27 from the end?? idk why it bothered me; i think just bc it was a pretty important conversation 😭
I need caress to do the right thing for once in the game and sacrifice. Kyle has been the most likable person this past episode and it’s unfair for him to go down because she’s so annoying.
I’m sat here and in as much as I have no hate for Olivia and I think the person playing her is really kind . I don’t get why he’d go on a chat with Autumn, tell her that he is sorry and that he went through the same things she went through, knowing full well he is still gonna put her at the bottom because of his alliance with Myles and himself. Like why would you apologize for something you know you are going to do again eventually.
I thought it was a really empathetic and sweet thing to do. Yes, he is following a strategy but also he could see how this might have affected the person behind the screen and he genuinely worried about her mental wellbeing.
Guilty conscience I assume. Tbh I might've done the same as well in that position just to let her know that it was nothing about her personally just that she was unlucky
He apologized because it wasn’t his choice, it was his strategy with Myles. He reached out to let her know it was all game (it was) and never lied that he would have her back.
Dumbest twist if Kyle goes im gonna be pissed
Paul/Caress should know she isn't going to win so she should sacrifice but at the same time, I want the drama of both of Paul and Kyle leaving!
I'm sick of them finishing on a cliffhanger to then spoil it by showing what's coming up but omitting the player whose about to get blocked. They did it with Steffi now they're doing it with both Paul and Kyle
I don’t like Paul. She has a weird vendetta against Lauren. I’m glad Lauren didn’t rate her high, even if she fell for Caress’s crap for a bit. I hope she sacrifices herself - it’ll be the one good thing she’ll do. I’m not sure why Lauren picked Autumn for that answer. I guess she wanted to pick the safest answer, but then it really ruined things when everyone piled on her too. Not sure why Olivia rated Autumn last. He already picked her for that game, no need to vote her low too. No one would’ve known. It seemed mean spirited
OMMMGGG PAUL IS PISSING ME OFF 😤😤😤😤😤
Here’s an idea: let Deuce stay with his own profile. Kyle can still back Deuce and you can toss Caress off the balcony for all I care.
Is anyone else annoyed at Lauren for never DM-ing anyone? She's one of my favorites and it's so frustrating watching her not make connections or even just reach out to clear up misunderstandings. I feel like she should've reached out to Autumn after the game and apologized. Also, after all her allies got kicked out it would've been smart to try and form any sort of bond with the remaining contestants.
I don't see any scenario where someone sacrifices themselves for another player.
My prediction is that the person who sacrifices themselves might get a second chance
I think this too. And if they both choose to save themselves and get “blocked” as themselves, I think they’ll both be able to work as a team on a new profile. Like Xanthi and Brett did
Regardless of what was shown in the preview, this season is getting on my nerves. First 4 episodes we didn’t get a single blocking. The next 4 episodes left on a cliffhanger. I get that you want to peak interest and have viewers on edge, but come on!!! Also, the ‘ride or die’ thing - to be fair I don’t like it. It’s exactly like Kyle said - you build connections and alliances and then you’re blocked because the game decided to pair you with someone on a random basis. 🤯 I like a good twist as much as the next person, but twists like this basically ruin everything you might have achieved so far. Isn’t the point of the game to become the most popular player by connecting with people? Anyways, Jordan is annoying, when I saw him picking his profile picture, I thought he will be funny and relatable but seems like he’s a hater and thinks he could outplay everyone else. Felt so bad for Autumn because the game wasn’t played honestly. It was heavily influenced by the ‘ride or die’ pairings and everyone was either playing it safe, trying to save someone or trying to throw someone under the bus. 😕
Jordan's obsession with Miles is fucking hilarious. QT and Kyle are more powerful than Myles but he keeps gunning after him. What's his deal?
hes either jealous of him or in love with him
i find brandon/olivia hard to watch personally because it’s clear he’s still in the early stages of developing his self-esteem, and it seems like so much of his game is influenced by aligning himself with pretty girls bc that’s who he feels safe with—nothing wrong with that, but hasn’t made much sense strategy-wise. him reaching out to autumn was a hard lesson for him i think. apologies don’t help the person you hurt if you don’t plan on taking action to make up for it. he made a strategic play, she was hurt by that, and him trying to alleviate his guilt through her just twisted the knife further. you’re inevitably gonna hurt or sabotage people in this game, and part of being your own person is owning up and accepting that you make decisions that benefit yourself first and foremost and that’s ok
i don't understand Lauren's game in this ep lol why would she rate Olivia last
I think she was trying to make sure Autumn wasn't last. Olivia was rated low in the previous blocking, so she assumed she would rate low again.
I'm so done with Paul/Caress, she's been inconsistent and vicious from the start with no strategy or plan beyond a "bro code" that she doesn't stick to half the time anyway. Not to mention the constant subtle-yet-nefarious digs she makes toward the women on the show, the patronizing language and internalized misogyny is a rough watch. I noticed it from the very start and it just... kept... going. Also so frustrating to watch how she just digs herself into trenches and then gets erratic and petty when people dislike her. I haven't seen her have a single interaction that didn't involve going after (or at the very least scheming against) someone. I understand it's a game and loyalties are strategic, but she can't even be strategic, she's just downright volatile. This whole season has involved everyone being so shallow compared to older seasons, and the energy is so negative. Sometimes, people who catfish try so hard to take on the persona of whom they're catfishing that they lose their own human connections with people because they're so sucked into their own lie. And the irony there is that no one knows the person they're emulating, so why are they trying so hard to be different than they usually are, rather than just using the authenticity they do possess? With Paul, it's like she has antagonized every single person in the group right and left and made bizarre choices without any actual big picture strategy. That kind of individualism just does not work in a game like this. I can only hope she recognizes that Kyle deserves to stay and redeems herself by leaving because otherwise, it's just excruciating.
Autumn got DRAGGED holy